From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #227 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 20 2003 Volume 12 : Number 227 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 69 Love Songs: The Musical ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Hey hipsters... [Eb ] re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) [Tom Clark ] Speak of the Asshole.... [Eb ] Luxor artwork ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Klaus Voorman ["Maximilian Lang" ] Feggy Songwriter's Clinic continued ["Rex.Broome" ] if there's a rock 'n' roll hell I'm sure Anne Murray is gonna be in it ["] Re: Speak of the Asshole.... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Apple G5 :-) (0% RH) Apologies [Mike Swedene ] Re: Speak of the Asshole.... [Eb ] Re: Apple G5 :-) (0% RH) Apologies [Tom Clark ] Re: scotelund [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: influences & RH unalbumed [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Bonnie & Clyde [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:14:50 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: 69 Love Songs: The Musical > From: Capuchin > Anyway, I think 69 Love Songs made me believe there are love songs yet > to > be written. Even ONE good (lyrically) good track on that album could > have > served as a counterexample for my malaise, but there are dozens. Or musicals, for that matter. Seems Ang Lee is talking to Stephen Merritt about turning "69 Love Songs" into a musical: Jazz hands! Jazz hands, people! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:15:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Hey hipsters... Accidentally postponed instead of sent; sorry about the delay. On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Eb wrote: > Just curious: Does anyone here (Natalie? Aaron?) like the Dismemberment > Plan? I used to find them really annoying, and when Emergency & I came out, I somehow ended up with a promo copy that only deepened the annoyance. A few months ago I pulled it out to see if my opinion had changed, and indeed, about half of it struck me as pretty good. "You Are Invited" and "8 1/2 Minutes" are the songs that come to mind as most memorable. I think the guy's voice is the worst problem (that's often the culprit when I find that I don't like a record until I've heard it enough to know how the songs go already). I wasn't part of the flock of mourners when they announced they'd broken up, though. > I've barely heard the DP at all, but I always feel like they're one > of those bands (see Mum, Mogwai, Faust, Tahiti 80, Boards of Canada) Tahiti 80 are the odd one out in that list, for me. The other four seem really into "sound", while Tahiti 80 are basically a pop band (albeit with disco influences, if I remember correctly). a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:15:28 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) the same site also lists these: The Soft Boys: demo : 'Tonight I'm In The Mood For Love'/'Rer Der Der Der Der'/'The Unpleasant Stain'/'I'm A Very Big House' I also came across this story: Syd Barrett All Stars - Live at Cambridge, Corn Exchange Feb 21, 1972 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The recording of the concert was organised at the last minute and the equipment was poor as all that was available was a rather poor mixer so we just stuck a stereo mic pair across the stage for drums/backline and mixed in some PA mix for front. We were positioned on the top of a sort of cloakroom arrangement in a corner near the stage (in about an inch of thick dust) but had a bad view of the stage from the equipment area due to columns in the building. I spent most of my time with headphones at the troublesome mixer so saw little. The whole affair was a shambles with a fight breaking out around the stage at one point destroying at least one of the mics. I was pretty naive at the time and can not say I saw Syd Barret but everyone was saying he was there. There were a number of rambling untogether acts and I am pretty convinced that the Syd Barret All Stars was mentioned at the time, as well as "The last minute put together boogie band". Recording was onto a 1/4track Revox at 7&1/2 ips (all we had then) and I do recall listening to it after the gig over the next months. Because we changed all our recording equipment quickly to 1/2track (standard professional format) the old 1/4 track tapes couldn't then be listened to. I recall vaguely that it existed for some time but later attempts to find it failed, e.g. when Robyn Hitchcock spent a day (around 1980) checking all the tapes in our library at Victoria Street. It is possible that the tape was placed with a whole collection of 1/4 track tapes that Gary Lucas had at the time (it was his Revox) and I am trying to find out if he has any knowledge of these. I've lost touch with him in the last few years since he moved away from Cambridge but I think I can track him down again. Mike Kemp, engineer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:23:48 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Hey hipsters... Aaron: > > I've barely heard the DP at all, but I always feel like they're one >> of those bands (see Mum, Mogwai, Faust, Tahiti 80, Boards of Canada) > >Tahiti 80 are the odd one out in that list, for me. The other four seem >really into "sound", while Tahiti 80 are basically a pop band (albeit with >disco influences, if I remember correctly). Sure...but who said bands I'd like to investigate need to have the same sound? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:24:05 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) Very cool. I wonder if they ever found those tapes. And this only proves there should be another (lost) Soft Boys album put together: Here's 4 more tunes for it mentioned in Marc's fwd. I'd add: Which Of us is Me Size of a Walnut (electric version) Psychelic Love Vegetable Girl (I really like this one!) and Give Me a Spanner, Ralph (slide guitar/ultra harmony version) Quoting Marc Holden : > the same site also lists these: > The Soft Boys: demo : 'Tonight I'm In The Mood For Love'/'Rer Der Der > Der Der'/'The Unpleasant Stain'/'I'm A Very Big House' > > I also came across this story: > Syd Barrett All Stars - Live at Cambridge, Corn Exchange Feb 21, > 1972 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:31:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) on 6/20/03 2:15 PM, Marc Holden at marc.h@earthlink.net wrote: > Syd Barrett All Stars - Live at Cambridge, Corn Exchange Feb 21, 1972 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > I recall vaguely > that it existed for some time but later attempts to find it failed, e.g. when > Robyn Hitchcock spent a day (around 1980) checking all the tapes in our > library at Victoria Street. You don't suppose Robyn pretended not to find them and then scurried off with them, do you? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:18:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Speak of the Asshole.... LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Lou Reed fans who don't have tickets for his current tour have plenty of other opportunities to see him in action. The grim rocker has partnered with America Online for a Webcast of his San Francisco show on Saturday, will dip his hands in wet cement on Hollywood's Rockwalk next Tuesday, and is also signing copies of his new CDs in selected markets. Reed, 61, is touring North America this month to promote two new albums, the multi-artist concept project "The Raven" and the hits compilation "NYC Man." After his final stop, on June 29 in Seattle, he will spend July playing Europe. His Saturday show at the Warfield Theater in San Francisco will be broadcast from 8 p.m. PDT by America Online under its BroadBAND Rocks! series. The concert will be available on-demand for seven days. Previous acts in the series, Staind and Foo Fighters, generated "hundreds of thousands" of streams in the first two days, an AOL spokeswoman said. On Tuesday, he will be honored on Hollywood's RockWalk, where the likes of Johnny Cash (news), Motley Crue and John Lee Hooker, have left their handprints in cement. The event, which is open to the public, takes place noon at 7425 Sunset Blvd. The evening before, he will sign copies of his CDs at the nearby Tower Records Sunset Strip store, beginning at 6 p.m. He will also do a signing in Seattle, a Reed spokesman said. Reuters/VNU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:15:46 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Luxor artwork Greg: >>i have never understood why he would put a bunch of pictures of himself on >>an album cover, sleeve or insert unless he enjoys looking at himself and >>is convinced everyone else is just as enamored. it has definately become a >>turn off in more ways than one. Now, what this (and the actual package) makes me think of is not narcissism, but low-budget-ness. If you've ever seen a self-produced, self-released, low budget CD by a solo artist, there's a pretty strong chance the artwork looks something like Luxor's... photos of the guy. Unless someone volunteers intensive original artwork for free (and admittedly Robyn coulda done his own) you've got no real design budget, and your one friend volunteers to do your layout for free and your other friend volunteers to take your photos and you have a hard time working out the scheduling and the track order keeps changing and it's a pain in the ass, and you finally get the proofs and it looks like shit and you don't care. Some escape the trap-- my brother-in-law just put out his own Cajun record (I'm on there strummin' an acoustic somewhere) and his talented artist wife did a nice cover for him-- but you see a *lot* of stuff like this. There's a little bit of evidence to the contrary in the case of Luxor, but it seems like a largely casual of affair, so this is how I choose to read it. Cheers later, groans now, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:23:21 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Klaus Voorman >From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Klaus Voorman >Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:14:13 -0500 > >a buncha people wrote: > >>>>klaus voorman: record cover design >>>>[...] >>> >>>and bass (on several of Lennon's solo albums, and elsewhere). > >and bass and production on Trio's "Trio and Error" LP. > >I've always liked his name: Voooooooooooormannnnnnnnn. Let's not forget that he is a few Nilsson albums as well or at least he is on Nilsson Schmilsson. Macx _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:42:13 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Feggy Songwriter's Clinic continued Glen: >>I've found that most of my inspirations for my songs come from the least >>likely places, not the most likely. I tend not to write about things >>close to me, but the things I observe about other people or the things >>going on around me. Ironically, I think the songs that are reflections of >>my feelings are often my best songs. Recently I've found that I'm matching the compact form of the pop song to reveries inspired by compact events. If that don't make no sense, here are some recent examples: "Fort Ashby": When I was a kid, the Mineral County Fair was held in a field adjacent to my Grandmother's backyard. Inside she had an out-of-tune piano and a cylinder gramophone. Outside: calliopes and out-of-tune marching bands, my dad's country band. Many years later I was listening to Tom Waits and I realized that most Tom Waits records sound, to me, just like my Grandmother's house. Cue music. "Moving Day": I was helping my friend clean out his recently-late ex-wife's apartment (along with some other friends). Her electricity had been cut. She had left the radio tuned to some incredibly mournful station playing prewar standards. We got tired and sat down to rest, and just then some people in the next apartment started fucking loudly, and none of us were able to say anything. So we just listened to them and a bunch of dead, sad, staticky singers. Cue music. "But What She Really Wants to Do Is Direct": Turned my car onto the Ventura freeway and saw an enormous sheaf of paper with text scattered across the onramp. Because of where I was, I instantly assumed it was somebody's unsold screenplay, maybe tossed out their car window in frustration. Could've been anything else, but that story, a little sketch of a frustrated life, leapt immediately to mind. And then I wondered why. Cue music. "(Just Can't See) The Attraction": this came out of a conversation with some friends about a common phenomenon: two mutual friends become romatically involved, we love both parties as individuals but think they made a terrible couple, and how to respond. I flashed on both a dimly remembered short story ("Our Friend ??? Has Gone Too Far", author forgotten) and "Making Plans for Nigel", imagining our circle of friends as some kind of relationship-dictating Orwellian Star Chamber, and I thought, this is a common emotional/relationship situation, but I've never heard a pop song about it. Cue music. A lot of my tunes have other songs as direct inspirations, but you'd be hard pressed to recognize them: "Redeye", big loud shoegazery thing. It was inspired by "Early Mornin' Rain" and contains references to Merle Haggard, James Brown, Dan Quayle. "Another Facile Satire, Hey!", inspired by a musical artist I now refuse to name because it belies my intent, contains the words "groovy decay" and a Dylan reference. Sounds like Sonic Youth. The aforementioned "Fort Ashby" mentions Tom Waits but was basically a rewrite of "Don't It Make You Wanna Go Home", a Joe South tune also recorded by my dad. Sounds like a slightly countrified Luna. The aforementioned "Attraction" sounds like REM in 6/8 time but was derived from (as mentioned) "Making Plans for Nigel" and two separate dB's tunes. "Dead Tongue" mentions Liz Phair, references "Eat the Document". Sounds like either Robyn (accoustic version) or Bob Mould (electric). "Satellite Business" was an attempt to write a "satellite" song. Lyrically it's country. Musically it's Teenage Fanclub (Big Star by transitive property). "Kristin's Blues" is named after Kristin Hersh but is not about her, nor does it mention her. It is so titled because it was the first song I ever wrote as if channeling words from elsewhere, with little interference, as Hersh does. Sounds like scary Appalachian death-folk crossed with Love & Rockets. "Her Brain Surgery" has Lou Reed, McCartney, Arthur Miller and Ray Davies nods. Sounds like Robyn. A lot like Robyn. "Summer Blockbusters": Grimey glam-style epic, contains the line "silver spaceship in the yellow haze of the sun" "The Twelve Inch" sounds like early Who or the Smiths, mentions Saint Etienne and the Orb "God Damn Mix Tape" is a Pixies/Motorhead hybrid which has the lines "Well she liked Husker Du/And she liked the Fall/But she didn't like me very much at all." I am SO proud. "Noncommittal" sounds kind of like Nick Drake via Vic Chesnutt. But it was inspired by "With a Girl Like You" by the Troggs and the outtakes from Big Star #3. And Vic Chesnutt. "Bagfoot Run" is seriouly traditional country, but refers to Hendrix and (sort of) Coltrane (the protagonist hopes a coal-laden locomotive and renames himself "Johnny Coal Train"). Back to Glen: >>I wrote one song called "Airwaves" whose intro guitar riff was Clapton's >>"Bad Love" backwards. Funny this should come up after Jeffrey's Verlaine reference, since the only other instance of this I know of is the riff to Television's "Days", which is McGuinn's "Mr. Tambourine Man" riff backwards. >>"Sweet Home Petaluma" (Parody of "Sweet Home >>Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd) "Sweet Hope West Virginia" right back at you. I'm sure I'm not the first to write that one, either. The only other one I can think of is a Robert Palmer parody, "Addicted to Drugs"; none too original, either. I think I do these casually on a regular basis but they don't stick with me. ____ Jeffrey: >> Some of these were actually committed to tape (acoustic guitar, voice, >>overdubbing by, uh, playing one part on a consumer cassette deck over the >>speakers and recording over it w/a second tape deck: made early GBV sound >>like Steely Dan). Yeah, I had a similar home studio setup. Just found some sixteen-year-old-tapes of this nature, and yeah, Pollard got nothing on 16-year-old me. For bonus points, though, I recorded a lot of them with the boombox perched on my open backwoods windowsill, so I get lovely ambieant accompaniment from all the katydids of Great Oak Valley. Sort of makes every song sound like Half Japanese covering "The Wrong Child". Well, not as cool as that sounds, but you get the idea. >>You're all welcome to blame Rex for the existence of this thread. Don't pretend you don't love it. I accept PayPal! Who all's got recordings? Isn't it about time for a new compilation of Feglister originals? I'll volunteer to compile & distribute it... - -Rex "healing the list by mailing out godawful demos to any and all takers" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:59:25 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Gotta have the cowbell Quoting "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." : > I was unaware that (a) so many songs featured the underheralded cowbell, and that (b) its use is, judging from the prevalence of older tracks, in decline. Admittedly, the sound has a certain...mulletude to it...but still, it can work in the right contexts! ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:02:49 -0400 From: "rubrshrk@harborside.com" Subject: if there's a rock 'n' roll hell I'm sure Anne Murray is gonna be in it Love songs: I have finished about one really good sort of standard one in my life, but most people think it is just a funny little ditty about rotting food. I think a lot of songs are love songs, just not always in the pop sense, or the romantic sense. A lot of things are about loving a thing or a place or a state of being that really are love songs, but luckily they don't all sound like the state song for Nevada. In that sense, there are a lot more love songs out there- and sometimes more enjoyable. I'd say "fuck you Tom Clark" in this space, but I'm probably going to get the chance in person before too long. Hope y'all are 'speriencing good health. Happies, - -sharkboy, not dead, but hardly literate enough to keep up with all the digests. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:03:41 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Speak of the Asshole.... Quoting Eb : > Reed, 61, is touring North America this month to promote two new albums Two thoughts: (1) I know it makes perfect sense that Lou Reed is 61 years old, but still...61? So he's been an AARP member how long? Did Laurie get him a clapper for his birthday? (Uh, are they still together? Sorry - not a gossip sheet reader...) And: (2) why is the media obsessed with people's ages, such that they have to parenthetically note them like this? It seems weird - it's as arbitrary and (usually) irrelevant as "Reed, who wears a size 8 medium..." "Reed, whose inseam measures 34"..." or "Reed, who prefers his steaks medium rare..." ..Jeff, size 10 1/2 J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and :: winds up as a processing unit. :: --Soft Boys, note, _Can of Bees_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:42:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Apple G5 :-) (0% RH) Apologies sorry guys (and girls) got very excited about this stuff.... I guess I need to get out more... but then again that is what tonight is for (HARRY POTTER!!!) if you had been so lucky as to have been cruising the Apple Store between, say, 11:30 PM and midnightish Eastern time last night, you might have noticed that the specs for the Power Mac G4 suddenly seemed a little, well, unfamiliar. Scads of screenshots flooding our inbox show the Power Mac G4's listed specs as including "1.6 GHz, 1.8 GHz, or Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 Processors; up to 1 GHz processor bus; up to 8 GB of DDR SDRAM; Fast Serial ATA hard drives; AGP 8x Pro; three PCI or PCI-X expansion slots; three USB 2.0 ports; one FW800, two FW400 ports; Bluetooth & AirPort Extreme ready; optical and analog audio in and out." Maybe it's just us, but that doesn't sound like any Power Mac G4 we've ever seen. G5's will be sweet...... mike ===== - --------------------------------------------- Rebuilding my websight: http://www34.brinkster.com/bflomidy/ _____________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 17:56:08 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Speak of the Asshole.... >nd: (2) why is the media obsessed with people's ages, such that they have >to parenthetically note them like this? Ever seen "The E! True Hollywood Story"? It's just *amazing* how obsessed with age the narration is. Within a hourlong program, they'll tell you the subject's age eight or nine times. Along with the age of his wife, his co-star.... The weather is unbelievably dreary in recent days. Very Northwesty. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:01:14 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Apple G5 :-) (0% RH) Apologies on 6/20/03 5:42 PM, Mike Swedene at pulp_101@yahoo.com wrote: > sorry guys (and girls) got very excited about this > stuff.... I guess I need to get out more... but then > again that is what tonight is for (HARRY POTTER!!!) > > if you had been so lucky as to have been cruising the > Apple Store between, say, 11:30 PM and midnightish > Eastern time last night, you might have noticed that > the specs for the Power Mac G4 suddenly seemed a > little, well, unfamiliar. Scads of screenshots > flooding our inbox show the Power Mac G4's listed > specs as including "1.6 GHz, 1.8 GHz, or Dual 2 GHz > PowerPC G5 Processors; up to 1 GHz processor bus; up > to 8 GB of DDR SDRAM; Fast Serial ATA hard drives; AGP > 8x Pro; three PCI or PCI-X expansion slots; three USB > 2.0 ports; one FW800, two FW400 ports; Bluetooth & > AirPort Extreme ready; optical and analog audio in and > out." Maybe it's just us, but that doesn't sound like > any Power Mac G4 we've ever seen. > > G5's will be sweet...... > Those are 64 bit processors too, my friend. Drooool, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:15:07 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: scotelund >> Well, there's the big Beltane Fire thing on Caltoun >> Hill in Edinburgh on Samhain ... > >Or "Calton" even. ;) don't be silly. Calton Hill is here in Dunedin. It's near Corstorphine. You can see all the way to Liberton and Musselburgh from it, and way down past the mouth of the Leith towards Portobello. Oh, did I tell you this place was settled by Scots? ;) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:20:35 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: influences & RH unalbumed >Surfer Ghost >Vegetable Girl >Psychedelic Love >The Unpleasant Stain >Lobster Man > >Can anyone come up with more? don't forget all the unassembled b-sides and things, Marc came up with a huge bunch of those not so long back. >The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) > >Isn't that an Edward Gorey title? I'm glad i wasn't the only one who instantly thought that. - --- >Mary: >>>I've always secretly wanted someone to write a love song for me but I know > >>>in reality I would be truly embarrassed. Anybody on the list feel this >way? >>>Has someone written a love song for you that you can't even bear to listen >>>to? Ever written a love song for someone, only to have them be completely >>>embarrassed by the song? yes. Ironically, two songs to the same person were on "Partial Rapture Theory". She loved one, was thoroughly embarrassed by the other. Never had a love song written about me as far as I know, but a poem, yes, about which I felt both embarrassed and warmly flattered at the same time. And I have had my portrait painted, and got the same mixed feeling about it. I think Alice may be mildly embarrassed about what I regard (FWIW) as the best love song I've written, which may yet eventually appear in recorded form if I ever get my a into g about recording again. Very derivative sound mind you - Gene Clark should sue ;) >> I was pleased to read this because of th open acknowledgement that one >> song was inspired by another. I know it's a common practice, but folks >> seem to be afraid to say so. oh, many of my songs are inspired by others. It's hiding the inspiration that's the important bit. Often I've done that in another typical way - write a song inspired by one piece, then arrange it with inspiration from a different source. Those of you with my Partial Rapture Theory tape have inspirations ranging from Eno, Yes, the Church, and Bob Mould (pretty obvious in each case, especially "Patch"'s debt to "If I can't change your mind", which was itself a Byrds rip-off) to Van Morrison and Gordon Lightfoot (less obvious, hopefully). The best lyrics I've ever written IMHO came when I was humming a Brian Eno song that I'd forgotten the words of. I later changed both rhythm and tune, to make a completely different song. One of my most recent efforts, "Listening to the world" (another I hope to record sometime soon) is a little too close to a Tom Verlaine's "Breaking in my heart", and another uses a guitar idea from a Billy Bragg song. I may yet attempt the feg-inspired "I know the felt of Judas", which is more Johnny Cash than necessary, and "She's the one" is a list of surreal images inspired by, of all things "I'm only you". And my Nirvana inspired "The outside" contains the lines "mama, take these guns away from me - yeah, I know you've heard that line before". I think the reason people don't talk about it is that it feels like cheating. >>I won't count things like >>Weird Al -like parodies of Townshend's "Rough Boys" (called "Fat Boys"), >>or the drunken afternoon a fellow dorm resident and I parodied the >>then-popular Romantics tune "What I Like About You" with, uh, "What I Like >>About Puke" (which did, however, beat Men at Work into this country with >>the word "chunder," introduced to us by an Aussie expat down the hall). > >Some of my better parodies include "Add Some Hops" (Parody of "At The >Hop" by Danny and the Juniors), "Another Beer In The Fridge" (Parody of >"Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 2" by Pink Floyd), "Bars" (Parody of >"Cars" by Gary Numan), "Folsom Pinball Blues" (Parody of "Folsom Prison >Blues" by Johnny Cash & "Pinball Wizard" by The Who), "Free Beer" (Parody >of "Free Bird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd), "I Will Imbibe" (Parody of "I Will >Survive" by Gloria Gaynor), "Sweet Home Petaluma" (Parody of "Sweet Home >Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd) "Wicked Heaven" (Parody of "Wicked Game" by >Chris Isaak & "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" by Bob Dylan), "Witchy Sheriff" >(Parody of "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles and "I Shot The Sheriff" by Bob >Marley), "You Give Rock A Bad Name" (Parody of "You Give Love A Bad Name" >by Bon Jovi). See my website for various parodies I've written . The one I'm proudest (proud? of a filk?) of is "You can call me HAL", which puts the entire plot of "2001: A space odyssey" to a... erm... rhythmically challenging song. >I distinctly remember trying to reproduce the harmonica solo by overblowing >one of those guitar-tuning pitchpipes... I have written an instrumental for guitar and pitch-pipes - it's called "Greek Slug" (it's named after Alice's cat, the sleek Grug). James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:20:57 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Bonnie & Clyde >'Nother odd note on that tune. Just after I got back from living in Paris >(which time encompassed Gainsbourg's death), and a while before Gainsbourg >became quite so retro-cool in the states, my girlfriend bought an album by >Soho (of "that-song-with-the-Smiths-sample-and-the-chick" fame) which had a >song on it which was a cover of "Bonnie & Clyde", in English, with the names >changed to "Hamed & Jacques", sung by a male vocalist. It was really weird. >Every once in a while I see a Soho album in the used bin and look at it, but >none of them seem to be the one with that song. (Rest of the album sucked >anyhow; it's just starting to seem like I have an alarming amount of covers >of that tune so I might as well collect 'em all.) the album was called "Thug". Bought it from a $5 bin partly because I knew that was on there and had heard it before. Weird thing is I also bought another CD the same day which had "Bonnie & Clyde" as a hidden bonus track (Luna's "Penthouse"). And then there's Mick Harvey's version... hmm... I must have several copies too. Never really thought about it. I suppose you've got the MC Solaar track that uses the song as part of the backing behind his wonderful French rapping? ("Le Nouveau Western") James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #227 ********************************