From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #226 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, June 20 2003 Volume 12 : Number 226 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) ["Jonathan Fetter" ] You'd think that people would have had enough of shitty love song s ["Rex] Re: autumn in June [Aaron Mandel ] "If music makes us do things, how come we don't all love each other?" ["G] Re: Travel advice (0%RH) [Groove Puppy ] Re: "If music makes us do things, how come we don't all love each other?" [Capuchin ] Re: autumn in June [Aaron Mandel ] Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery ["Glen Uber" ] Gotta have the cowbell ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery ["Glen Uber" ] Birthday today ["Glen Uber" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:41:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: The Unpleasant Stain (100% RH) Isn't that an Edward Gorey title? On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:06:20 +0000 (GMT), brian@lazerlove5.com wrote : > > > Robyn Hitchcock recording before the soft boys included the memorable > title "The Unpleasant Stain" (which I would like the world one day to hear but > Robyn has the tapes!)" > > Mike Kemp, engineer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:59:05 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: autumn in June >Sorry about the gushing fanboyisms >here, but man, LOU REED. Damn. Marc Damn, indeed. Congratulations! :) re. Luxor (horrible title): >A vivid description, but it sure doesn't make me think I'll like the >album much. :/ Yeah, me neither. Jeez, I have no urge to buy the latest Robyn album, I'm not rushing to buy Andy Partridge's Fuzzy Warbles compilations... it feels like the end of an era. I even skip over the XTC songs on my home-made sampler tapes. *sigh* oh well, n. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:35:12 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: You'd think that people would have had enough of shitty love song s Mary: >>I've always secretly wanted someone to write a love song for me but I know >>in reality I would be truly embarrassed. Anybody on the list feel this way? >>Has someone written a love song for you that you can't even bear to listen >>to? Ever written a love song for someone, only to have them be completely >>embarrassed by the song? I don't think anyone's ever written a song to or about me. I've been in two peoples' screenplays (one very flattering and another not so much), and a guy in a band with me in high school wrote a song for the band that I *think* was about what a bunch of jerks the rest of the band, especially me and the drummer, were, but I've never gotten him to admit it (tried two weeks ago, even). Certainly no love songs. Shame, really; all the obvious rhymes with "Rex"... I wrote one love song for a girlfriend, at age 18. It was shit, even included her name, and she did seem embarassed by it (and my singing voice; can't blame her for either). Within an few years it had been re-written into something totally else (a total "dis" song called "You Are Nothing" (!!!) which was not for the same girl and in fact the lyrics were by David "Blatzman" Santos) and it remains one of the few songs on our record that I can still listen to. I've since rewritten the words yet again but consider it a "second string" song at best; Blatzy's version is better. I have another song that's a sort of love song to my wife, but the basic crux of it is a plea for her to go scuba diving with me. (It's called "Clownfish", so I should probably record it now while Nemo-Mania is still au current.) And I have other "crush" songs about real live gurlz but offhand I don't think I've ever told any of them that the songs are for them. ______ Jeffrey: >>..Jeff, who actually likes a lot of Lou Reed's music, even though he keeps >>dissing Lou whenever he gets mentioned... I think a lot us fall into this category. So much that's great about Lou, and yet so much to mock as well. Michael G: >>Have you read the Bockris biography? Lou comes out as very committed, >>extremely talented and near-clinically paranoid Yeah, I read it. I would go so far as to say that "asshole" does indeed come across from that book, but it also does seem somewhat clinical or pathological. But it is Bockriss: he cowrote Cale's autobiography, and although he's clearly obsessed with Lou he does seem to have something personal against him (even more evidently in his VU book). And Bockriss is... not especially a great writer, although I got a lot out of all those books. The Cale book especially, despite some hit-and-miss design and iffy editing, is really entertaining. I think my favorite part of the Lou bio was Quine talking about Lou on the "No Sensations" tour (paraphrased): "We were starting to rehearse 'Waves of Pain' and Lou told us all we were gonna make it 'upbeat and positive'. I was like, 'Lou, the name of the song is called 'WAVES OF PAIN'!!!" I heart Quine. As a musician and as a guy, as far as I can tell. He has... put up with a lot of shit in his time, and still has a sense of humor. Good for him. And he can play... - -Rex n.fueledexclusivelyby: bad bad coffee, little to no sleep ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:47:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: autumn in June On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Natalie Jane wrote: > re. Luxor (horrible title): > >A vivid description, but it sure doesn't make me think I'll like the > >album much. :/ > > Yeah, me neither. Those of you who worry you're going to hate the album: you will DEFINITELY hate the album art. It's lots of photos of Uncle Robyn, looking warmly content in the outdoors. After two listens: The music... for the first half, I was getting those same teatime vibes and I didn't like it much at all. "One L" is sweet, yes, but I find it awkward. Maybe the problem is that, as a lot of people have pointed out, Robyn used to seem ill at ease with expressing emotion in his songs, and now he's trying to do it more directly, which is FINE, but hearing a song nominally addressed to a real live person doesn't make me feel like emotion is actually being expressed directly! I'm sure that anything Robyn says to Michele in a song has already been said in person many times, but the "open letter to my girlfriend" format hardly feels intimate to me. Anyway. Halfway through (I think it was "Maria Lyn") I stopped feeling badgered with gentility and started being reminded of the late-90s solo shows Robyn did. I don't know whether I just got into the groove of it, or if the songs got better, but it's happened both times. I'm not overwhelmed with joy by Luxor, but I think it sounds (and feels) a lot like the simpler tracks on Moss Elixir, which I know have many fans around here. The lyrics aren't nearly as dopey as I suspect some of us are making them sound; if none of us had ever heard of Michele, I suspect there's only one or two tracks that people would finger as being clearly autobiographical/real. And it may be too early to say, but "Idonia" strikes me as possibly the best song Robyn's ever done in his imitating-the-trads style. (Unless it's "The Duke Of Squeeze", hee hee.) a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:56:21 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: "If music makes us do things, how come we don't all love each other?" Rex.Broome earnestly scribbled: >I don't think anyone's ever written a song to or about me. I've been in two >peoples' screenplays (one very flattering and another not so much), and a >guy in a band with me in high school wrote a song for the band that I >*think* was about what a bunch of jerks the rest of the band, especially me >and the drummer, were, but I've never gotten him to admit it (tried two >weeks ago, even). Certainly no love songs. Shame, really; all the obvious >rhymes with "Rex"... I've referenced myself in a couple songs but as far as I know, I have not been the subject of anyone else's song. I know someone who said that I was the inspiration for a character in a play she was writing, but I have yet to read it. I also wrote a song about a band that whose title was inspired by the name we used, "Russell and the Love Okies". I guess it was my attempt to create a great, mythical band like Ziggy & the Spiders, "Bennie & the Jets" or "Leppo & the Jooves". >I wrote one love song for a girlfriend, at age 18. It was shit, even >included her name, and she did seem embarassed by it (and my singing voice; >can't blame her for either). Within an few years it had been re-written >into something totally else (a total "dis" song called "You Are Nothing" >(!!!) which was not for the same girl and in fact the lyrics were by David >"Blatzman" Santos) and it remains one of the few songs on our record that I >can still listen to. I've since rewritten the words yet again but consider >it a "second string" song at best; Blatzy's version is better. I've never really written love songs myself for anyone. Mine are usually in the "you f-ing bitch, you ripped my heart out and shat on it" vein. That's something more people can relate to than love, I suppose. Every time I've tried writing a love song, it sounds like so many thousands of songs before it. I think that lyrics of love songs are just recycled over and over and put to different tunes anyway. That said, there are a few great love songs: "You're The Best Thing" by Style Council, "Pictures of You" by the Cure, "In Spite of Ourselves" by John Prine and Iris DeMent and the song that was played during Carol's and my wedding ceremony, "Grow Old With Me" by John Lennon. >I have another song that's a sort of love song to my wife, but the basic >crux of it is a plea for her to go scuba diving with me. (It's called >"Clownfish", so I should probably record it now while Nemo-Mania is still au >current.) And I have other "crush" songs about real live gurlz but offhand >I don't think I've ever told any of them that the songs are for them. My wife has been the inspiration for a couple of recent songs, "Ticket to Telluride," "Next Time You Leave," & "Stuff Like That" but none of them are love songs in the traditional sense. "TtT" is kinda my version of "Lukenbach, Texas" and "SLT" is kind of a goofy, stream-of-consciousness song about the road trip we took in October. The lyrics also contain a bunch of inside jokes and references only the two of us get. "NTYL" is as close to a love song as I've gotten recently. The music is from a song I wrote back in the early 90s called, "Don't Talk". Although I always hated the lyrics, I was pretty proud of the music (inspired, btw, by "Suffragette City"). I rewrote the lyrics a couple weeks ago when Carol was visiting her mother in Colorado. It's about missing her and about how I don't like the fact that sometimes we have to go off in different directions in order to make things happen in our lives. I've found that most of my inspirations for my songs come from the least likely places, not the most likely. I tend not to write about things close to me, but the things I observe about other people or the things going on around me. Ironically, I think the songs that are reflections of my feelings are often my best songs. - -- Cheers! - -g- "The line between us is so thin, I might as well be you. Everywhere I've ever been, I know you're going, too." --Robyn Hitchcock, "Chinese Bones" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Groove Puppy Subject: Re: Travel advice (0%RH) >> Hello to all the Scottish fegs - > >both hamish and I are expats now -- do we still count? 1,2,3,4,5... yup! :) > I'm considering a trip to Scotland in mid to late > October. Any advice? Take an umbrella! Nothing to do with it being October, you'd need one any time. Oh yeah, sweaters. And another umbrella for when the first one blows inside out. > Yeah; go. Savour fried food in the velvety darkness. Mmmmm, can't find decent fish and chips here yet. Local place has started doing deep fried twinkies which is progress I suppose but I get a hankerin' for deep fried pizza. > Best places to go at that time of the year? Indoors. > Not a good time to go? As long as you weren't planning on sun drenched beaches. >> Any good Halloween celebrations? > > Well, there's the big Beltane Fire thing on Caltoun > Hill in Edinburgh on Samhain ... Or "Calton" even. ;) You could do one of the old town ghost walks. Should be fun on Halloween. There's a few of 'em on the web. http://www.witcherytours.com/ http://www.mercattours.com/ >> hanging out in cemeteries with my camera. > Oh, you'll love Glasgow Necropolis, then: >http://www.quinn.echidna.id.au/Quinn/WWW/PhotoGallery/Necropolis/> > > It's best in B&W, though. Take fast film. Glasgow's all in B&W anyway! >> Most likely I'll be traveling alone so any advice >> on good places a wee lass would feel safe visiting > Most places, to be honest. We just pretend to be > dangerous. Just don't > wear too much green (or too much blue) in Glasgow. Or wear your English football shirt! (H) np - "Brand New Boots & Panties - A Tribute To Ian Dury" ===== CHUCKHOLE All that great punk rock taste with only half the calories. http://clix.to/chuckhole http://www.mp3.com/chuckhole __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: "If music makes us do things, how come we don't all love each other?" On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Glen Uber wrote: > I think that lyrics of love songs are just recycled over and over and > put to different tunes anyway. I used to go on (perhaps on this VERY LIST!!!) about how much I hate the format of the love song and how it's all been done to death and there's nothing really left to be said or done in the genre. And when there was all that chatter and gushing on-list about The Magnetic Fields and their 69 Love Songs, I was appalled and totally turned off by the entire concept. "Oh, gee... a whole album of love songs. How frickin' orginal. Have these guys never heard of Lionel Ritchie?" Maybe I was a bit bitter. Anyway, I think 69 Love Songs made me believe there are love songs yet to be written. Even ONE good (lyrically) good track on that album could have served as a counterexample for my malaise, but there are dozens. > "Pictures of You" by the Cure ...but not "Pictures of You" by Oingo Boingo. > "Grow Old With Me" by John Lennon. ...but surely not that song Adam Sandler sings at the end of The Wedding Singer. > Although I always hated the lyrics, I was pretty proud of the music > (inspired, btw, by "Suffragette City"). I was pleased to read this because of th open acknowledgement that one song was inspired by another. I know it's a common practice, but folks seem to be afraid to say so. I've only written one song (and the music was a collaboration with our former feg Michael Keefe -- the man who coined the term "po apo", which I use regularly -- haven't seen him in a long time) and the lyrics were written very much as an alternate version of The Go-Gos' "Vacation". (That's why the collaborative music was so important. Michael didn't know the lyrics were written for "Vacation", so we didn't end up just playing circus music.) J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:16:13 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: autumn in June On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Aaron Mandel wrote: > Those of you who worry you're going to hate the album: you will DEFINITELY > hate the album art. It's lots of photos of Uncle Robyn, looking warmly > content in the outdoors. i have never understood why he would put a bunch of pictures of himself on an album cover, sleeve or insert unless he enjoys looking at himself and is convinced everyone else is just as enamored. it has definately become a turn off in more ways than one. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:15:28 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: "If music makes us do things, how come we don't all love each other?" On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Capuchin wrote: > I was pleased to read this because of th open acknowledgement that one > song was inspired by another. I know it's a common practice, but folks > seem to be afraid to say so. "Songs" I've "Written" Inspired by Other Songs: - --a rockabilly piano number circa 5th grade inspired by a teacher w/the titular ailment (I'd heard the Who song but it sounded nothing like it; instead it sounded like every rockabilly piano number, as limited by the performance capabilities of an eleven-year-old) called "Vincent with the Shaky Hands" (that was also nearly the only lyric; I think the other line was "oh, he's such a loonie man") - --around the same time, my friend Don and I were having the sort of silly giggles endemic to that age and, for some reason (I blame the presence of an actual cowbell in the house), we decided to co-write a C&W weepy. Its lyrical and formal structure were astonishingly similar to "Vincent": title line repeated thrice, and then the second line: "My Nose Itches When I See You" ("and that is why I sneeze"). For some reason, no one was predicting a lucrative, influential career in songwriting for me at this point. In college, I wrote an Elvis Costello imitation/parody (approx. of "Living in Paradise," musically) called "No Social Security." For the amusement of my younger siblings, I came up with one of those early-XTC spastic ska things, topped w/a David Thomas-on-helium vocal, called "Timothy Leary's Toaster" (no, I didn't explain who Timothy Leary was to the young ones). (Around this same time, I amused them on a long car trip by weaving a substantially bowdlerized version of the story of Zappa's "Billy the Mountain." Surprisingly, they turned out okay.) And once when I had a cold, I could sing just like Jonathan Richman and wrote a song about breakfast so I could use it. I won't count things like Weird Al -like parodies of Townshend's "Rough Boys" (called "Fat Boys"), or the drunken afternoon a fellow dorm resident and I parodied the then-popular Romantics tune "What I Like About You" with, uh, "What I Like About Puke" (which did, however, beat Men at Work into this country with the word "chunder," introduced to us by an Aussie expat down the hall). I distinctly remember trying to reproduce the harmonica solo by overblowing one of those guitar-tuning pitchpipes... More seriously, I once tried writing a song that was supposed to sound like one of Tom Verlaine's slow ones...never finished it. Some of these were actually committed to tape (acoustic guitar, voice, overdubbing by, uh, playing one part on a consumer cassette deck over the speakers and recording over it w/a second tape deck: made early GBV sound like Steely Dan). You're all welcome to blame Rex for the existence of this thread. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::No man is an island. ::But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, ::they make a pretty good raft. __Max Cannon__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:19:59 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: autumn in June At 01:16 PM 6/20/2003 -0500, gshell@metronet.com wrote: >On Fri, 20 Jun 2003, Aaron Mandel wrote: > > Those of you who worry you're going to hate the album: you will DEFINITELY > > hate the album art. It's lots of photos of Uncle Robyn, looking warmly > > content in the outdoors. > >i have never understood why he would put a bunch of pictures of himself on >an album cover, sleeve or insert unless he enjoys looking at himself and >is convinced everyone else is just as enamored. it has definately become a >turn off in more ways than one. For a guy who's (allegedly) enamored with looking at himself, he sure as Hell doesn't enjoy having his picture taken. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:44:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: autumn in June On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 gshell@metronet.com wrote: > i have never understood why he would put a bunch of pictures of himself > on an album cover, sleeve or insert unless he enjoys looking at himself > and is convinced everyone else is just as enamored. it has definately > become a turn off in more ways than one. Ah, I didn't mean to say it was a turn-off, just that it looks like the kind of album art you'd get with the kind of album people are afraid Luxor is. Which it is, but not as much as you'd think from the art. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:06:35 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery Jeffrey earnestly scribbled: >"Songs" I've "Written" Inspired by Other Songs: I wrote one song called "Airwaves" whose intro guitar riff was Clapton's "Bad Love" backwards. Another song -- for awhile entitled "This Time" -- was inspired more or less by Queen and Elton John. "I Wish, I Want, I Need" has the exact same guitar riff as "I Can't Explain". One song I wrote was called "Changing Faces" inspired by the title of a 10cc/Godley & Creme Best of. One line from that song was, "I wonder when I'm 64/If I'll even like the Beatles anymore". I've since taken that line and incorporated it into a different song entitled, "One That Got Away". The title for "Mean Old Town" was lifted from Dire Straits' "So Far Away". "My Heart's Got A Mind of Its Own" is a classic, shit-kickin', cry in your beer, honky-tonk song. I think that the main inspiration lies somewhere between Webb Pierce's "There Stands The Glass" and Garth Brooks' "Not Counting You". The music for "Sarah Strange" was my attempt at writing a Syd Barrett-era Floyd tune. "Smiley Smile" was a musical and lyrical tribute to Brian Wilson and, specifically, _Pet Sounds_. The song "Stuff Like That" contains the line, "You can tell everyone that this song is yours," an obvious reference to "Your Song". My 2 talking blues songs, "Talking King of All Beers Blues" and "Talking Menage a Trois Blues" were inspired by every other talking blues that came before. The main lick for "Ticket To Telluride" came about when I fucked up the main riff to "Wish You Were Here". The title is an allusion to both "Ticket To Ride" and "Two Tickets to Paradise". The title to "When I Was A Bird" was a nod to "When I Was A Kid". "Who's Billy and Why Is He Saying All The Groovy Shit About Me" is an instrumental whose main (keyboard) bass riff was a intended to be a tip of the hat to the classic Bernie Worrell synth bass lines. The wah-wah guitar is an homage to "Shaft". Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. >--around the same time, my friend Don and I were having the sort of silly >giggles endemic to that age and, for some reason (I blame the presence of >an actual cowbell in the house), "I've got a fever and the only prescription is MORE COWBELL!" >For some reason, no one was predicting a lucrative, influential career in >songwriting for me at this point. Man, I look back at some of the songs I wrote when I was 18, 19, 20 yo and think, "Dude! You didn't know shit!" >I won't count things like >Weird Al -like parodies of Townshend's "Rough Boys" (called "Fat Boys"), >or the drunken afternoon a fellow dorm resident and I parodied the >then-popular Romantics tune "What I Like About You" with, uh, "What I Like >About Puke" (which did, however, beat Men at Work into this country with >the word "chunder," introduced to us by an Aussie expat down the hall). Some of my better parodies include "Add Some Hops" (Parody of "At The Hop" by Danny and the Juniors), "Another Beer In The Fridge" (Parody of "Another Brick In The Wall, Pt. 2" by Pink Floyd), "Bars" (Parody of "Cars" by Gary Numan), "Folsom Pinball Blues" (Parody of "Folsom Prison Blues" by Johnny Cash & "Pinball Wizard" by The Who), "Free Beer" (Parody of "Free Bird" by Lynyrd Skynyrd), "I Will Imbibe" (Parody of "I Will Survive" by Gloria Gaynor), "Sweet Home Petaluma" (Parody of "Sweet Home Alabama" by Lynyrd Skynyrd) "Wicked Heaven" (Parody of "Wicked Game" by Chris Isaak & "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" by Bob Dylan), "Witchy Sheriff" (Parody of "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles and "I Shot The Sheriff" by Bob Marley), "You Give Rock A Bad Name" (Parody of "You Give Love A Bad Name" by Bon Jovi). Drastically re-arranged covers that I have done are a brooding, acoustic version of "Baby...One More Time" (Britney Spears), a loungy, piano-based "Days Go By" (Dirty Vegas) "Globe of Frogs" as done by Joy Division, a ska'd-up "Midnight Fish", and a slow, dirge-like "Tears of A Clown" (Smokey Robinson & the Miracles). >I distinctly remember trying to reproduce the harmonica solo by overblowing >one of those guitar-tuning pitchpipes... Anything that makes a noise is a musical instrument, my brother. >You're all welcome to blame Rex for the existence of this thread. And me for the continuation of it. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Why of course the people don't want war. . .That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." --Hermann Goering, on or about 18 April 1946, Nuremberg War Crimes Trial ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:14:13 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Klaus Voorman a buncha people wrote: >>> klaus voorman: record cover design >>> [...] >> >> and bass (on several of Lennon's solo albums, and elsewhere). and bass and production on Trio's "Trio and Error" LP. I've always liked his name: Voooooooooooormannnnnnnnn. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:12:11 -0500 From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Gotta have the cowbell ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:23:16 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Gotta have the cowbell Eugene earnestly scribbled: > Greatest. Website. Ever. Thanks! - -- Cheers! - -g- "Remember when you're out there trying to heal the sick that you must always first forgive them." --Bob Dylan, "Open The Door, Homer" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:30:44 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery Coincidentally, I wrote a song called Lobster Man the same year Robyn did. Not coincidentally, they sound nothing alike. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:47:29 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Re: Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery Glen earnestly scribbled: >"Who's Billy and Why Is He Saying All The Groovy Shit About Me" is an >instrumental whose main (keyboard) bass riff was a intended to be a tip >of the hat to the classic Bernie Worrell synth bass lines. The wah-wah >guitar is an homage to "Shaft". I should mention that the title of this song is a play on the title of a 1971 film starring Dustin Hoffman, entitled "Who Is Harry Kellerman and Why Is He Saying Those Terrible Things About Me?" - -- Cheers! - -g- "Why of course the people don't want war. . .That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." --Hermann Goering, on or about 18 April 1946, Nuremberg War Crimes Trial ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 13:54:37 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: klaus voorman >>>klaus voorman: record cover design >>>[...] >> >>and bass (on several of Lennon's solo albums, and elsewhere). >He was a member of Manfred Mann and the Foundations, IIRC. He was also >Astrud Kirchner's (sp?) boyfriend for awhile right? ...and he played Cheech & Chong's song Basketball Jones with George Harrison, Carole King, Jim Keltner, Billy Preston, Tom Scott, Jim Karsten, Darlene Love, and Nicky Hopkins. Tommy Chong doesn't have any guitar credits on that one, but his daughter Rae Dawn Chong is credited on background vocals. Marc I believe in making the world safe for our children, but not our children's children, because I don't think children should be having sex. Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:02:21 -0700 From: "Glen Uber" Subject: Birthday today In honor of my friend Steve whom I have cc:'d on this message, here is the birthday band for June 20: Bob Andrews (Brinsley Schwartz, Dave Edmunds, Graham Parker & the Rumour): keyboards Chet Atkins: guitar Eric Dolphy: sax, clarinet, flute Anne Murray: vocals Brian Nash (Frankie Goes to Hollywood): guitar Lionel Richie: vocals, keyboards John Taylor (Duranx2): bass T. Texas Tyler: cards Brian Wilson: vocals, keyboards, bass, songwriting, sandbox Mickie Most, producer Looks like we'll have to hire a drummer for this gig. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Remember when you're out there trying to heal the sick that you must always first forgive them." --Bob Dylan, "Open The Door, Homer" ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #226 ********************************