From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #219 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 16 2003 Volume 12 : Number 219 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The Lonesome Organist ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Needle in Eno's Eye [steve ] Caramelised antlers, with Eno [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: US Dialect Survey (0% RH) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Vale, Quail [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] too much time ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Vale, Quail ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: US Dialect Survey (0% RH) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Vale, Quail [Christopher Gross ] If you think this list's in trouble... [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Re: Needle in Eno's Eye [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: If you think this list's in trouble... [Ken Weingold ] RE: more occasional rain makes me ask an important question ["Iosso, Ken"] Re: Good Bye! ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Survey, Birthdays, Eno, etc. (1% RH) [mary ] re: leaving the covey [Ethyl Ketone ] Robyn Hitchcock's LUXOR now available! [noam tchotchke ] Re: Survey, Birthdays, Eno, etc. (1% RH) ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Long-winded? Yep. Meta? Sorta. Flameworthy? Prolly not. ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Long-winded? Yep. Meta? Sorta. Flameworthy? Prolly not. ["Stewart ] Re: US Dialect Survey (0% RH) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 9:50:45 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: The Lonesome Organist Dolph Chaney wrote: > > Go see him -- ONCE, at least. I've seen him > twice, and I'm all over it. So by the sound of things, I won't come out of there without an opinion. Hmm, my kind of gig. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:56:53 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Needle in Eno's Eye On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 01:08 AM, UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com wrote: > Please help me settle a long running dispute I have been having with a > friend. Which is the better pair of Brian Eno pop albums the first > two Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) or > Another Green World and Before and After Science? > > My friend insists itbs the first two are better in ever way but I > argue that while the first two may have more classic songs the later > two are much stronger as albums. Of course this would likely settle > this but im wondering if im totally out there on this. Any thoughts? I'm afraid this is a question that can't be answered. Sorta like How old is the Silver Surfer? - - Steve __________ "The logic of missile defense is to make the stakes of power projection compatible with the risks of power projection," says Keith B. Payne, a deterrence theory expert and an ardent supporter of missile defense. - Bill Keler, NYT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 02:20:39 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Caramelised antlers, with Eno >I wonder what the >results would have been had they tried to elicit any difference between >"caramel" and "carmel." Quite simple. One's a sort of chewy sugary sweet substance, the other's a mountain in Israel. >I use antlers in all of my decorating! It's sooo much easier to use a paintbrush. >Please help me settle a long running dispute I have been having with a >friend. Which is the better pair of Brian Eno pop albums the first two >Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) or Another >Green World and Before and After Science? > >My friend insists itbs the first two are better in ever way but I argue >that while the first two may have more classic songs the later two are >much stronger as albums. Of course this would likely settle this but im >wondering if im totally out there on this. Any thoughts? Depends on the sort of music you like, but overall I'd agree almost exactly with your sentiments. The first two were more fiery, and probably stronger in terms of individual tracks (certainly within a 'rock' setting), but the overall fel of AGW and B&AS make them stronger albums. These are also (FWIW) the two Eno albums which most often turn up in "Best albums" lists. I've heard the suggestion that you can divide Eno's albums up chronologically into fire (HCTWJ, TTM), then water (AGW, B&AS, Evening Star), then earth (Music for Films, On Land, Nerve Net), then air (most of the longer ambient), but I find that a bit of a stretch, especially since you have to juggle the chronological order to get Nerve Net anywhere near the 'earth' section. I'd also say that if you're a 'Before and After Science' fan and haven't heard Eno's album with John Cale ('Wrong Way Up'), go and find it immediately! See my sig file for further comment. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:36:12 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: US Dialect Survey (0% RH) Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Dictionaries aren't God. They're descriptive, > not prescriptive. Hey, after four years working in the editorial department of a dictionary company, I know that only too well. This was a company that prided itself on only using words in common usage. This was until the CEO (one rung below Rupert Murdoch) decided that "delia" was a nice noun, and wanted it in the next edition, to tie in with a promo campaign featuring TV chef Delia Smith. Even the fact that the printer's warehouse burnt down while storing the books wasn't enough to deter them. [As you, like 99.999& of the world, won't know what a delia is, it's this: a recipe from one of Delia Smith's recipe books. Sucks, eh?] > The fact is, > that spelling is used quite frequently a quick googling for "caramel candy" and "carmel candy" returns roughly 3:1 for the former. Probably enough to argue for a common misspelling. But a close call, and one that would be argued in the letters pages for months. > not least by people who *sell* > car(a)mel - and it's just baffling that > it's not in dictionaries. so does that mean we have to include spanish (common greengrocer's spelling of "spinach"), tomatoe's and potatoe? ;-) In my search for misspellings, I found this: -- "A Writing Reference for Xenaverse Bards, Beta-readers and Editors". It's amazing what you see when you're out without your camera. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:10:41 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Vale, Quail Ah! The Parthian shot, a speciality of Quail's over the years. >And, on my way out, this word -- you know virtually nothing >about me, and if >you think I "ran" Susan off the list because I was offended by >her sexual >proclivities, you couldn't be more wrong. I would hate that to >remain "on >the record" uncontested. Susan and I had many differences, and I >publicly >voiced an opinion that I thought her ranking of "Being a >Submissive" as an >equal sexual issue as gay rights was wrong, and I thought she >invited a lot >of her problems, but that's not the same thing, and I did not >run her off the list. Well, others might interpret it a little differently. I kept up an off-list correspondence with Susan for a while afterwards. Your, shall we say, forcefully expressed opinions, were one of, if not *the* major reason she left. Yes, I know little about you. Only the advertisements for yourself on here and at your website. You know even less about me, and yet have felt moved to insult me on several occasions...'couldn't give a rat's ass what you think'; 'your online soubriquet sums up the subtlety of your intellect' etc. I'll miss your classical music round-ups. Crowbar Joe So. Farewell then, Quail, You liked Dungeons and Dragons. And Rush. And meta-fiction. They call that po-mo. Don't they? You were certainly po-faced, when anyone disagreed with you. C.B. Thribb (Age 17 and a 1/2) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:20:56 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: too much time Not to whine too much but.... I am freshly laid off from my job, at least six weeks. Man, this is my first day and I am bored out of my skull. I actually watched 15 minutes of the Croc hunter filling in for Reeg the very depths of entertainment, I am sure! I suppose I will be around here a bit more during the day, at least for a week or two. Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:21:13 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Vale, Quail Joe, I knew you have been known to write the odd bit here and there in a professional capacity, but I had no idea you had a gift for poetry. I hope you won't mind but I have invoiced you the cost of a replacement keyboard, having spat coffee all over it... That's not to say I agree with your music reviews, however, one of them at least... grrr... ;0) Cheers Matt >From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com > >I'll miss your classical music round-ups. > >Crowbar Joe > >So. > >Farewell then, Quail, > >You liked Dungeons and Dragons. > >And Rush. > >And meta-fiction. > >They call that po-mo. > >Don't they? > >You were certainly po-faced, >when anyone disagreed with you. > >C.B. Thribb (Age 17 and a 1/2) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fed up with 56K? Sign up for a FREE BT Broadband connection! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:30:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: US Dialect Survey (0% RH) Ken Weingold wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003, mary wrote: > > The results were for caramel were: > > > > a. with 2 syllables ("car-ml") (38.02%) > > b. with 3 syllables ("carra-mel") (37.66%) > > c. I use both interchangeably (17.26%) > > d. I have both forms, but the two have different > meanings (please state how > > in the comments box) (3.77%) > > e. other (3.28%) > > (11609 respondents) > > b. d; (a) referring to harder, chewier caramel and (b) to oozier, more flowing caramel. I have no clue as to why though. > > -Ken ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:33:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Vale, Quail On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com wrote: > Yes, I know little about you. Only the advertisements for yourself on > here and at your website. You know even less about me, and yet have > felt moved to insult me on several occasions...'couldn't give a rat's > ass what you think'; 'your online soubriquet sums up the subtlety of > your intellect' etc. I suggest we all let he (him?) who is without sin cast the first stone. That ought to put a stop to this stuff real fucking quick. - --Chris "guilty as the rest" the Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:39:23 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: If you think this list's in trouble... ...take a look at what the RH Yahoo Group threw up today. Crowbar Joe "I water the tomatoes and I think of you. No one's ever watered me the way you do" Robyn Hitchcock,"I Feel Beautiful" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Does someone want to meet this weekend? From: "savemefromhorniness" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:46:29 -0000 From: "savemefromhorniness" Subject: Does someone want to meet this weekend? Im very wet just thinking about it! I want pleasure really bad. You can see my pics on this dating site I'm on. We need more men there to take some of the women begging for pleasure! http://www.nakedfriendfinder.com/landing.asp?afl=MYHO ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:43:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Needle in Eno's Eye UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com wrote: > Please help me settle a long running dispute I have been > having with a friend. Which is the better pair of Brian > Eno pop albums the first two Here Come the Warm Jets and > Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) or Another Green > World and Before and After Science? > > My friend insists it's the first two are better in ever > way but I argue that while the first two may have more > classic songs the later two are much stronger as albums. > Of course this would likely settle this but im wondering > if im totally out there on this. Any thoughts? See, I actualy would say it's TTM(BS) and B&AS, but that's probably cheating, isn' it? ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:43:27 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: If you think this list's in trouble... On Mon, Jun 16, 2003, crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com wrote: > ...take a look at what the RH Yahoo Group threw up today. The Yahoo Groups have been getting spammed big time lately. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:51:00 -0500 From: "Iosso, Ken" Subject: RE: more occasional rain makes me ask an important question I have a different question. Is there a band (artist, performer, whatever) that you used to love but now absolutely can't stand and don't see what attracted you in the first place? Good question, Jill. I have one for sure and am shocked that of the two or three replies to your question, already someone else has said it: The Moody Blues used to seem so beautiful and deep "Nights in White Satin," "Tuesday Afternoon," "Just a Singer in a Rock'n'roll Band" when I was in 8th grade. Man, were they pretentious and lame. Sort of all that was wrong with progressive rock even before progressive rock existed. I used to joke with my music loving friends in high school that we had to go to their next concert and kill them and that all we'd have to do is play their poems on a tape recorder for the jury: "Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight, Red is gray and yellow white, But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion?" And they would accept that we did it in self-defense. Ken Iosso -----Original Message----- From: Jill Brand [mailto:jlbrand@bu.edu] Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 3:43 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: more occasional rain makes me ask an important question I think that we New Englanders are inches from mass suicide (start mixing up that Kool Aid, Marvin). After the coldest winter with the biggest snowstorm in NE history, we are experiencing the spring from hell. June has seen about 3 sunny days, and I had to turn on my heat a few days ago. However, I'm working very hard on being positive. Anyway, in an attempt to entertain myself, I posit this question (with accompanying preface)............... On this list, people, at one point, were asked to list their guilty pleasures (music, TV, etc.). I have a different question. Is there a band (artist, performer, whatever) that you used to love but now absolutely can't stand and don't see what attracted you in the first place? I'll be the first to toss in my entry. (trumpets blare) The Police and anything that Sting has anything to do with From 1979-1982, I thought the Police were, in the words of my neighbor, all that and a bag of chips. Then Sting got a nose job and took himself all seriously, and now I switch off the radio every time I hear the Police, even songs that I used to love. The thing is, I don't think that Sting has changed at all; I think he was always seriously in love with himself and that his music was always derivative with few original twists. I have no idea why I was such an avid Police fan. I don't feel that way about any other band, even guilty pleasures (like the Carpenters and Gary Puckett and the Union Gap, both of whom/which still make me smile). Does anyone else have the same reaction to a band that they used to love? I'm just askin' Jill, proudly going to pack for her son, who is going to DC to represent the Massachusetts junior division (group project) at National History Day ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Good Bye! In my opinion, this was a sad day for this list. That's just my opinion, and I don't expect anyone else to share it. I'm not the most outspoken person and don't post a lot, so as a result I don't draw a lot of fire. For the record, over a span of five years on this list, I have only ever received one negative email from a listmember--from Capuchin, back when I was newby. The rest of you have been fantastic. Jon On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:22:16 -0400, The Great Quail wrote : > Thanks to those Fegs who made the last seven or eight years a lot of fun. > But the time has come for me to pack my bags and move over to the Feg > Announce List. I'll probably check in in a year or so, see if the climate > has changed, but right now I feel that things have shifted, and *I* am the > Cranky Asshole with Unwelcome Opinions. > > Cheers, and I'll be sure to see some of you at the next Robyn shows.... > > --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:51:52 -0400 From: mary Subject: Survey, Birthdays, Eno, etc. (1% RH) D'oh, I think I created a caramel monster. I posted the link to the survey because I thought some folks would find the questions and results interesting. I didn't expect the caramel debate to continue! I do apologize. So, please, no more sticky stuff! Famous birthdays - there are a ton of folks on my day (Jan. 16) but I only recognize a few, and they mostly seem to be female singers - Jill Sobule, Sade, Aaliyah. I certainly couldn't create a band from the folks listed. Also on the list is Kate Moss and that Dr. Laura chick. UglyNoraGrrl@aol.com wrote: > Please help me settle a long running dispute I have been having with a friend. Which is the better pair of Brian Eno pop albums the first two Here Come the Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) or Another Green World and Before and After Science? If you're talking "pop" albums then AGW and B&AS would get my vote. James, interesting thoughts about placing Eno releases into earth, air, fire and water categories. Has this been done for other artists, RH perhaps? s.Mary np - Stephen Malkmus, "Pig Lib" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:13:43 +0200 From: Ethyl Ketone Subject: re: leaving the covey On Lunedl, giu 16, 2003, at 15:02 Europe/Rome, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ha scritto: >>> Bye, >>> >>> - --Quail >> >> sigh. I hope that doesn't mean what I think it means... > > It means he's going to hang around a few more days, fire a few more > parting > shots, and then not be around to answer responses, apparently. I can't remember when I first joined the list but it was easily '97 or '98 and I've witnessed a lot of debates, but openly hostile remarks were few and far between (and I find the above comment hostile). I was flamed, once from Eb, once from Capuchin, both when I was a newbie and making gut response posts, and nothing more came of it. To me, the loss of the Quail is a sad day for fegdom. Be Seeing You, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 12:15:42 -0400 From: noam tchotchke Subject: Robyn Hitchcock's LUXOR now available! - ----- Forwarded message from duplanet@global2000.net ----- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:46:43 -0400 To: Recipient List Suppressed:; From: duplanet@global2000.net Subject: Robyn Hitchcock's LUXOR now available! X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.8 required=4.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,TO_MALFORMED version=2.53 Robyn Hitchcock's LUXOR now available! 12-page full color booklet, solo recording of all new songs. "Luxor" CD $16/postpaid in the US and Canada, $20/overseas - available now from the official website, the Museum of Robyn Hitchcock http://www.robynhitchcock.com (go to the "Gift Shop") or by mail (The Museum of Robyn Hitchcock, POBOX 133, Greenwich, NY 12834 - overseas orders can also be placed through the UK office - details on website) - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 09:35:30 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Survey, Birthdays, Eno, etc. (1% RH) At 11:51 AM 6/16/2003 -0400, you wrote: >James, interesting thoughts about placing Eno releases into earth, air, >fire and water categories. Has this been done for other artists, RH perhaps? Earth, Wind and Fire maybe...? REM's "Reckoning" had "File Under Water" printed on the side of the record sleeve, and "Document" had "File Under Fire" on it. I tend to categorize albums by real elements. "Before and After Science" is definitely a Hydrogen for me. Actually, a lot of people use the "gold" and "platinum" classifications. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:02:53 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: re: Birthdays Matt said, about being born on Nov. 2: "I'd put money on a Valentine's day conception..." And I've run across many people born on my birthday of September 30. Including Eb. Nine months from New Year's Eve. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:52:23 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Long-winded? Yep. Meta? Sorta. Flameworthy? Prolly not. James: >>yup, I think we're now in the year 4 AEb Nah, that can't be right. Eb was around during my first run on the list, which probably ended in '96 or '97. He was a different type of poster then; maybe the snark level just rose in the interrim? _________ Jeff: >>I don't think any of the participants' essential points of view have changed >>re politics, ethics, computer platforms, software and copyright, or monkeys: >>cute or evil? I've radically reconsidered my opinion re: monkeys since 9/11, but I haven't dared bring up my conclusions for fear of the flame war that would result. Feg would be obliterated. So I'm keeping it to myself. _____ Stewart, there are lots of digital versions of Mossy Liquor kicking around... you just gotta ask the right people... ____ Jeme: >>what do you mean by that last bit? Do you want the pride of knowing that >>YOU provided for your family or do you just want to be secure in the >>knowledge that your family will also enjoy abundance of the things they need >>and desire? I'm not sure how "pride" enters into it. I want my daughters not to starve, and to be clothed, and have the opportunity to grow and learn and turn into decent human beings. This is because I love them. It's a fairly ego-free part of my life. >>I don't want to be a "businessman", either. I want to be a teacher and a >>student and a tinkerer. I don't want to have to find ways to screw people >>out of money or constantly watch my back so that my fellow man doesn't >>screw me. That's not why I live in society. That's not why people moved >>into cities and towns. We didn't cluster together so that we could more >>efficiently screw each other en masse. Yeah. Or, "word". The thing is that this just makes me mostly sad about human nature while it makes you angry (or at least motivated). Part of my genetic makeup, oddly... my parents were very insular about family, and that carries over to how I view my own little clan. It might be viewed as selfish; I think of it as a way to preserve my sanity. I don't think I've ever succeeded in changing someone else's fundamental views of things. It's taxing to try. Usually ends up in a shouting match. Instead I try to get along with people of different ideological stripes. And if they want to know how I'm running and organizing my own life and ideals, I'll tell them. And re: the ear: one week and one course of antibiotics later, still pretty bad. I groveled to the doctor and got three days more of the big horse pills. They didn't seem to trust me, which I somewhat resented... I mean, if there's any way to get high off these pills, I sure haven't found it. But now that I've been made to feel like a junkie, maybe I'll try harder. _____ James: >>If you go from a "love the first single" to "Ehhing the rest" in this >>thread, then add Enya to the pile. Wowsers, I hadn't thought about that, but I could cop to it, too. That song sounded kind of unique, like "Cocteau Twins go chamber music" or something. Then the horrible reality set in. By the way, did anyone notice that, after Enya sang that wretched tune at the end of "Fellowshop of the Ring", amongst the "featured soloists" in "The Two Towers" was none other than Liz Frasier? ____ Eb: >>I never noticed that "What happened on this day" function on the IMDB >>site before...that's kinda fun. I knew several celebs with my >>birthday, but the site revealed a bunch more. Interestingly I discovered you can do the same thing with the AMG, but it's a real stealth feature. You can't search for birthdays, but if you pick a date, use another site to find any musician born on that date, search for said musician on the AMG and then click the date on their entry, bingo, big juicy list. I still feel bad for my brother. He shares a birthday with both Ronald Reagan and Rick Astley. None more white. JeFFrey's (rather cool) list is the same as my younger daughter's, but I'm sure you all remember the "Patti Smith: Dec. 20 or Dec. 30?" controversy. I still lay proud claim to sharing a birthday with both Patrick McGoohan the actor and No. 6 the character, and ignore most of the rest. ___ Michael Godwin: >>And while we're about it, could all those >>incomprehensible computer discussions please go somewhere else? I don't >>inflict income and substitution effects of price changes on you, so why do >you inflict Operating Systems on me? Yo, I'm with you on this one. I hate to dictate what can and can't be discussed here, but it seems like that kinda stuff could go offlist without harming the calibre of discourse hereabouts... ____ Kyew pon. ______ Terrance: >>Me, I've got all livestock, I've got all livestock, I got cows, I got sheep, >>I got bulls, I got pigs, I got aaaaallllll livestock. This made me laugh a lot. Thanks. You haven't lived until you've heard the tape I made of myself singing this song at about five years old. Halfway through the list I go into some kind of mind-fugue and get stuck repeating "an I got chiickinnss... an I got chiickinnsns... an I got chiickinnns... an I got chiickinnns..." Scary stuff. ______ Goodbye, Quail. You have been... Great. >>And, on my way out, this word -- you know virtually nothing about me, and if >>you think I "ran" Susan off the list because I was offended by her sexual >>proclivities, you couldn't be more wrong. I could be wrong, but I think I bear some responsibility for her absence. Wasn't my intention when I resubscribed, and again, I could be wrong. But unless someone's been pretty explicit about disappearing (as Quail has) it's kind of dangerous to assume. _____ Nora: >>Which is the better pair of Brian Eno pop albums the first two Here Come the >>Warm Jets and Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) or Another Green World >>and Before and After Science? Hmmm, tricky question trickily phrased. I'd opt for (A) in a "desert island" scenario, but in an ideal world everyone would have all four. _______ Jeme: >>What was that stupid >>robot dog from Battlestar Galactica? The one with the chimp in it? Boxy? Muffit the "daggit". Boxy was the cute little boy. Oh, Christ. ____ Jeffrey: >>Let's Active CDs tend to go for fairly big dollar on eBay. Not with the reissues out now, I'm guessing. Viva Feg, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:03:12 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Long-winded? Yep. Meta? Sorta. Flameworthy? Prolly not. Rex.Broome wrote: > > there are lots of digital versions of Mossy > Liquor kicking > around... you just gotta ask the right people... Well, one of them made themselves known to me. And I like it. I think I'm in a very 1996 place at the moment -- that's musically, domestically I'm well shot of a psychotic flatmate in a verminous Scottish hovel. Whatever happened to Surfer Ghost, and Netsurfer ghost? > And re: the ear: one week and one course of > antibiotics later, still pretty > bad. If you've blown an eardrum, expect three weeks of echoey, burbling deafness. > You haven't lived until you've heard the > tape I made of myself singing this song at > about five years old. If it's that good and weird, please share it via the 365 days project: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:37:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: US Dialect Survey (0% RH) On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Ken Weingold wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003, mary wrote: > > > The results were for caramel were: > d; (a) referring to harder, chewier caramel and (b) to > oozier, more flowing caramel. I have no clue as to why > though. Oh, that seems obvious to me: the extra vowel makes the three-syllable version fairly flow into that liquid "l" at the end - whereas the harder, two-syllable version sounds like someone's got a chewy mouthful of the stuff. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::No man is an island. ::But if you take a bunch of dead guys and tie 'em together, ::they make a pretty good raft. __Max Cannon__ np: The Figgs _Sucking in Stereo_ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #219 ********************************