From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #175 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, May 12 2003 Volume 12 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: YLT (5% RH) [Eb ] Re: Had to share.... ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Zappa quotes ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Captain Sensible--Collection [brian@lazerlove5.com] Luxor ships ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Luxor cliffs ["Matt Sewell" ] Re: Zappa quotes [Michael R Godwin ] Phoenix area Hitchcock fans ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Ride ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Ride [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Ride ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Elephant Ride ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: ugh [Tom Clark ] Now I really feel old [Tom Clark ] Re: Elephant Ride [Eb ] Re: Now I really feel old [Mike Swedene ] Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans [Miles Goosens ] Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans [Eb ] Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans [Miles Goosens ] Black Hole Sung by everyboday ["Rex.Broome" ] Spam King Rex [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: USB 2.0 Mac (revisited) 0% RH (unless I ask about Luxor) [Tom Clark <] Re: USB 2.0 Mac (revisited) 0% RH (unless I ask about Luxor) [Ken Weingol] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 01:57:12 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: YLT (5% RH) >If this mythical Feelies reunion should come to pass, I would >probably go to the US so as not to miss it. From what I hear, Brenda >Sauter wouldn't be part of it. Now that more than ten years have >passed, I feel that I can finally reveal that she used to be my >girlfriend for three years (from '89 to '92). Hot damn...Jersey-snatch! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:40:49 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Had to share.... > From: Eb > Subject: Re: Had to share.... > >> Why didn't any of us think of this???? >> >> http://punkrockbaby.com/home.html > > Because Devo thought of it first? And before Devo did it, there was Hot Butter, and Electric Coconut, and Perry and Kingsley, and all those other studio Moog bands? And they all owe it to Raymond Scott, anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:51:14 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Zappa quotes > From: "Marc Holden" > > "Is that a real poncho? I mean is that a Mexican poncho or a Sears > poncho?..." I always catch myself singing "Catholic girls..." whenever I see teenagers on prime-time sitcoms. "With a tongue like a cow / She could make you go WOW!" This has been the Central Scrutinizer. Over and out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:14:20 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Captain Sensible--Collection I know robyn did vocals on "Royal Rave Up," which is included on this collection. - -Nuppy Quoting Roberta Cowan : > From Marc: > > > SENSIBLE, CAPTAIN > > Collection > > (Spectrum) > > I haven't seen a track listing yet. Does anyone know how many of the > songs > > he did with Robyn are included? > > Looks like it's all but one unless I've missed something. Finally on > CD...yay! > > 1. Happy talk > **2. Croydon > 3. Nice cup of tea > **4. Brenda (parts 1 & 2) > 5. Yanks with guns > 6. Martha the mouth > 7. What d'ya give the man who's gotten everything > 8. Wot > 9. Royal rave up > 10. It would be so nice > 11. Power of love > **12. I'm a spider > 13. I love her > 14. Glad it's all over > **15. Stop the world > 16. Sir Donald's son > **17. It's hard to believe I'm not > 18. Thanks for the night > 19. There are more snakes than ladders > > ** co-written with Hitchcock > Missing: Secrets > > http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/mansfield-sensible.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:24:32 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Luxor ships My copy just shipped from AmazonUK...that makes a one month lead time, though it looks to be in stock there now. Michael "that's Luxoriffic" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:48:15 +0100 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Luxor cliffs For those that have received theirs, I think I was on the same beach where the centre photo was taken the other day - West Bay just outside of Bridport in Dorset, inhabited by ravens and peregrin falcons amongst the seagulls... the only way I could confirm that it was would be to see Portland in the distance, but unfortunately, Robyn is standing in front of where it should be, but it's definitely the Dorset coast... it's beautiful down there... Cheers Matt >From: "Michael Wells" >My copy just shipped from AmazonUK...that makes a one month lead time, >though it looks to be in stock there now. > >Michael "that's Luxoriffic" Wells - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Express yourself with cool emoticons. Get MSN Messenger today. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:48:39 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Zappa quotes > Quoting Marc Holden : > > Then there's the whole "writing about music/dancing about > > architecture" > > quote that's attributed to Frank. I'm still not sure who actually first > > said it. Oh, I thought you were talking about this one, which _is_ by FVZ: - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:18:48 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans Is anyone else going to make it to the Richard Thompson show at the Marquee tonight? Let me know if you want to get a pint of Kilt Lifter or two, before things start. Really looking forward to this one. I've never seen him before, Marc You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer. Frank Zappa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 09:21:29 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Ride At 12:21 AM 5/10/2003 -0700, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >Eb again and again and again: > > Speaking of awful vocal performances, did you ever see > > Ride live? Quite possibly the worst onstage singing I've > > heard. Well, let's see, I did see the Pastels once.... > >Hmmm. When did you see them? When I saw them May or June >1992, Gardener and Bell sang fine. I saw Mark Gardener perform solo last month, and his singing was more than adequate. He could have improved the last decade or so, though, for all I know... - ----------------------------------------------- Jason R. Thornton Assistant Research Analyst Student Research & Information/Student Affairs The University of California, San Diego 9500 Gilman Drive, Dept. Mail Code 0088 La Jolla, CA 92093 (858) 534-2382 FAX: (858) 822-4578 jthornton@ucsd.edu http://ugr8.ucsd.edu - ----------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 17:50:39 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans On Mon, 12 May 2003, Marc Holden wrote: > Is anyone else going to make it to the Richard Thompson show at the Marquee > tonight? Let me know if you want to get a pint of Kilt Lifter or two, before > things start. Really looking forward to this one. I've never seen him > before, Marc Make sure he plays "Vincent Black Lightning"! - - Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:08:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Ride "Jason R. Thornton" wrote: > At 12:21 AM 5/10/2003 -0700, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >Eb again and again and again: >>> Speaking of awful vocal performances, did you ever see >>> Ride live? Quite possibly the worst onstage singing >>> I've heard. Well, let's see, I did see the Pastels >>> once.... >>Hmmm. When did you see them? When I saw them May or June >>1992, Gardener and Bell sang fine. > > I saw Mark Gardener perform solo last month, and his > singing was more than adequate. He could have improved > the last decade or so, hough, for all I know... Or Eb just caught them on a bad night. Or I caught them on what was at the time a good night. I didn't even know Gardener had/was doing anything since Ride, and had kinda assumed he'd gone civilian. Shame that Hurricane #1 was so bad and that Bell's now doing time in Oasis. Odd that you'd have your best guitarist playing bass, but those wacky Gallagher's, well, you wouldn't want anyone showing up Noel now would we? ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:19:38 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Ride At 10:08 AM 5/12/2003 -0700, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >I didn't even know Gardener had/was doing anything since >Ride, and had kinda assumed he'd gone civilian. I'm not sure what he's being doing in all that time. When I saw him, at the beginning of April, he played some Ride songs and some new material from a solo album he hopes to release soon. Just him on acoustic guitar, although a couple of members of the local band The And/Ors joined him for a couple of Ride tunes. - --Jason np: Blur - Think Tank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:31:00 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Elephant Ride Eb: >>Mmm, I don't really feel like this is a problem any more than it was >>with Seattle, Chapel Hill, Athens, Matador, Shimmy-Disc, Flying Nun, >>etc. etc. Or with alt.country, for that matter. Any music scene has a >>certain depth and breadth, and you simply see how far you want to dig >>before you quit and turn elsewhere. What's so different here? All in the press, really, or maybe just in the press I read on those bands. Read an article about Mudhoney, Superchunk, Galaxie 500, REM, the Chills etc. and you'll see as many nods to their influences as their contemporaries. E6 press tended to use mostly other E6 bands as touchstones, and really dwell on it. Labelmates or local scenes are remarked upon in your average review of your average band, but those comparisons and relationships don't take up half or more of the piece. But it wasn't just me; I knew people who were way more turned off by the phenomenon than I was. Some of them were less likely than I was to like bands of that type anyway, but at least one was a dyed-in-the-wool GBV freak whom I asked about the E6 roster, figuring he'd be able to help me sort the wheat from the chaff. His response was, "I don't have time for that shit". Which is much harsher than I would be, but possibly the root of my impression that E6 oversaturated their own market. >>Speaking of awful vocal performances, did you ever see Ride live? >>Quite possibly the worst onstage singing I've heard. Yeah, I did see them... I thought the vocals were fine, but admittedly the guitars were so loud that who knows. But I don't view Kristin Hersh's voice as being shot or degraded as you do, so maybe we just have widely devergent scales of evaluation on live vocals. (We probably both have some gig-related hearing loss, although I don't know if you have as much from playing and rehearsing with bands as I do... that seems to put me ahead of the pack.) >>Ah, c'mon...I think Swervedriver ages better than almost all of their >>peers. Including Ride. Meh. Couple of okay early singles. I know people cream over Mezcalhead (?) but when I borrowed someone's copy I felt like I was listening to Bush (vocal delivery, mostly). To me, all those bands lost it when they turned away from their initial style to placate NME or whoever, but it was a Catch-22... they couldn't keep making the same records, either. It was a movement with an expiration date, like many others. Jeff D. to Eb: >>Hmmm. When did you see them? When I saw them May or June >>1992, Gardener and Bell sang fine. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Eb and I saw the same show, at the Palace on the same tour of which you speak. ____ Capuchin: >>My favorite was the Dead Kennedys EP released on a full length audio >>cassette with the B-side labelled: >>"Home taping is killing the music industry. >>We left this side blank so you could help." Heh heh heh. I once posted a "forgotten albums recommendation" to a site that had a little checkbox on the submission form to declare whether you were up for trading: ( ) Home taping and file trading are killing music! My review is a recommendation only. ( ) I could be persuaded to help kill music. (or summat) - -Rex n. being paid to destroy: clones of the masters for Son of the Beach, and, sorry guys, I'm enjoying it more than destroying Buffy dubs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:47:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: ugh on 5/10/03 10:31 PM, Natalie Jane at emma_blowgun@hotmail.com wrote: > Everyone here knows that I only love Tom Clark. And Jim O'Rourke. Though I > do tend to get them mixed up. How's life in Sonic Youth treating you these > days, Tom? I'll tell ya, as much as I love Kim, she can be quite the bitch sometimes. I mean all this "look Jim, we were doing just fine before you came along. So, if you keep saying I don't know how to tune my instrument, you can just go back to sucking John Zorn's dick!" Chill girlfriend! But Thurston's cool though. He's always asking me about being "avant garde" and "intellectual". I usually just throw him some line about Paris in the '20s and that keeps him thinking for a while. - -tc, who went to High School in Thurston's home town. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 11:59:07 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Now I really feel old 20 years ago today, The Smiths released their first single, "Hand In Glove". - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:28:50 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Elephant Ride >Rex: > >>Hmmm. When did you see them? When I saw them May or June >>>1992, Gardener and Bell sang fine. > >I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Eb and I saw the same show, at the >Palace on the same tour of which you speak. No...I saw Ride at my old stompin' ground Bogart's in April, 1991. Much smaller club than the Palace. It closed around 1992, but I've *still* seen more shows there than at any other venue. Incidentally, I also have a promotional-only Ride CD5 from that era, with about seven live tracks on it. The singing on the CD5 is just as dreadful as what I heard in person. I probably should have sold this years ago, when it was most coveted. >>Gene: >>>Why didn't any of us think of this???? >>> >>>http://punkrockbaby.com/home.html >> >>Because Devo thought of it first? > >And before Devo did it, there was Hot Butter, and Electric Coconut, >and Perry and Kingsley, and all those other studio Moog bands? Well, but Devo specifically tried the concept of "neutering" punk/punkish songs with muzak-like synthetic versions. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:44:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: Now I really feel old OUCH. Herbie np-> Bobby Bare Jr. - --- Tom Clark wrote: > 20 years ago today, The Smiths released their first > single, "Hand In Glove". > > -tc ===== - --------------------------------------------- Rebuilding my websight: http://www34.brinkster.com/bflomidy/ _____________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 14:59:12 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans At 05:50 PM 5/12/2003 +0100, Michael R Godwin wrote: >On Mon, 12 May 2003, Marc Holden wrote: >> Is anyone else going to make it to the Richard Thompson show at the Marquee >> tonight? Let me know if you want to get a pint of Kilt Lifter or two, before >> things start. Really looking forward to this one. I've never seen him >> before, Marc > >Make sure he plays "Vincent Black Lightning"! Whereas those of us who have seen him a number of times since the early '90s probably wish someone would keep him from playing it. It's a good song, and he doesn't walk through it or anything, but I'm ready to hear something else in its stead -- see this list's frequent complaints about "The Devil's Coachman" in Robyn's '90s setlists. For really vicious iterations of this complaint that go beyond good-natured jadedness, see the Roxy Music list's complaints about "Love Is the Drug" / "Avalon" / "Jealous Guy" / "Let's Stick Together" / "Do the Strand," which are not only persistent complaints but increasingly vituperative, even though it's been well-explained that Ferry is usually contractually obligated to perform most of these songs... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:06:56 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Mutants & Punk Spawn So it was Mother's Day and the wife and I actually managed to secure a babysitter to get out for a movie (too late to manage dinner, though). I really wanted to see A Mighty Wind, but the wife opted for X-Men, and it being her day, her wish prevailed. I'm sure the same story was repeated for millions of couples across the country. Anyhow... the actual title of this film, as shown onscreen, is "X2"? Yeesh. I'm quite sick of seeing abbreviated formulations like that on posters and billboards, especially when they make no sense whatsoever (ID4/D3 The Mighty Ducks/etc.) but I didn't think any of them were really the titles of the films, just ad-pub shorthand. That's bad enough, though... it's as if the presumed attention span of someone looking at a poster is now presumed to be no longer than two or three *alphanumeric characters*, after which you've lost them for good. Otherwise it was pretty okay, although the "climax" was kind of flat (erm, spoilers follow, or whatever): I had the distinct feeling that Jean Grey met her demise in the wilds of Canada more or less because it's cheap to shoot there. Nice scenery, but the event itself was not very epic in scope as a "noble sacrifice" (seriously, the jet won't start?), and there was a similar lack of scope in having, like, seven superheroes just strapped into seatbelts inside a jet for whole scenes at a time... in my memory of the comics, at least three of these characters could fly (or, um, ice-surf) and spent half their time airborne... I'm fairly sure they had the budget for that, but instead we get "Top Gun Meets Twister". Plus, the heroes sure did kill a lot of people and/or leave them to drown, didn't they? Or were all of Stryker's minions "de facto evil"? I still find it odd that comic book movies tend to take death and killing so much less seriously than the comics themselves (cf. the Batman films, especially). But Ian McKellan was cool, and it was nice to see Nightcrawler. Still, what's up with it not being until the third movie until they finally crack into the X-Men storyline that I expected to be the *first* movie? ____ Punkrockbaby: That's kind of cool. Wish the t-shirts were more imaginative, though (although I guess "Please Kill Me" would be either wildly inappropriate or right-on depending on how much you like kids). On a similar tip, a friend directed me here: http://dookiewear.com/ I still think a lot of bands are missing out by not making baby-size tourshirts, and I'm still seeking a Sleater-Kinney shirt for my Number One Daughter. She did get a Go-Go's shirt for her birthday, which is pretty damn cool for an LA rock chick. "Black Hole Sun" has gotta be one of the most frequently cheese-ified rawk tunes of the last decade... something about the changes, I guess. I have three copies excluding the original: Moog Cookbook, Mimi, and Steve & Eydie*, all schmaltz-liquored to a greater or lesser extent/intent, and now this... - -Rex "seems like if anyone would make baby-size tour shirts it would be the Muses, but nooooo" Broome * didn't buy this; it was on a comp disc a friend made for me, but it's worth it just to hear the way Steve Lawrence delivers the line "Summer stench!" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:04:29 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans >It's a good song, and he doesn't walk through it or anything, but >I'm ready to hear something else in its stead -- see this list's >frequent complaints about "The Devil's Coachman" in Robyn's '90s >setlists. "Queen Elvis" >For really vicious iterations of this complaint that go beyond >good-natured jadedness, see the Roxy Music list's complaints about >"Love Is the Drug" / "Avalon" / "Jealous Guy" / "Let's Stick >Together" / "Do the Strand," which are not only persistent >complaints but increasingly vituperative, even though it's been >well-explained that Ferry is usually contractually obligated to >perform most of these songs... Jeez...who would want to see Roxy Music without hearing "Love is the Drug" and "Do the Strand"?? What *I* wish Ferry would drop is "My Only Love." It goes on forever, and it's just not very interesting. I believe he sang it at both the Roxy Music *and* solo Ferry shows which I saw in recent times. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:25:54 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans At 01:04 PM 5/12/2003 -0700, Eb wrote: >>It's a good song, and he doesn't walk through it or anything, but >>I'm ready to hear something else in its stead -- see this list's >>frequent complaints about "The Devil's Coachman" in Robyn's '90s >>setlists. > >"Queen Elvis" Is that a suggestion for a substitute or a correction? If it's the latter, I know I've heard far more complaints here about "The Devil's Coachman" as a setlist staple than I have about "Queen Elvis." See also the "90s" qualifier, because I don't think "Devil's Coachman" has been frequently performed as of late. Has it? >>For really vicious iterations of this complaint that go beyond >>good-natured jadedness, see the Roxy Music list's complaints about >>"Love Is the Drug" / "Avalon" / "Jealous Guy" / "Let's Stick >>Together" / "Do the Strand," which are not only persistent >>complaints but increasingly vituperative, even though it's been >>well-explained that Ferry is usually contractually obligated to >>perform most of these songs... > >Jeez...who would want to see Roxy Music without hearing "Love is the >Drug" and "Do the Strand"?? Apparently, several hundred people on Avalon. I think it's mostly symptomatic of the age of Internet jadedness -- nowadays data on setlists and actual recordings of live shows are far easier to get, and it's also easier to keep up with an artist's tour dates and thus (if you have the leisure time and money) go to a lot of shows. IMO this sort of jadedness is a luxury, even though I just indulged in it myself with my RT comment above -- and with Marc seeing RT for the first time, he hasn't had the chance to get tired of live "52 Vincent." I've only seen Ferry once ('94) and Roxy once ('01), and I was glad to hear the oft-complained-about songs listed above, and it seems like Ferry plays them with a lot of showmanship and exuberance. Also true of most of the official live stuff (Ferry's NEW TOWN; the DVD of Ferry in Paris in April 2000; the Roxy DVD from the 2001 tour), IMO. >What *I* wish Ferry would drop is "My Only Love." It goes on forever, >and it's just not very interesting. I believe he sang it at both the >Roxy Music *and* solo Ferry shows which I saw in recent times. It's not as much of a staple -- I don't think it was a regular item in '94 or '87-'88, so it's not something he's worn out on tour after tour. Didn't see a show on the FRANTIC tour, so I don't have an opinion there, but I thought it was gorgeous at the Roxy Music 2001 stop I attended (Atlanta). later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:25:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Mutants & Punk Spawn > "Black Hole Sun" has gotta be one of the most frequently cheese-ified rawk > tunes of the last decade... something about the changes, I guess. I have > three copies excluding the original: Moog Cookbook, Mimi, and Steve & > Eydie*, all schmaltz-liquored to a greater or lesser extent/intent, and now > this... There is also a version of this rendered by Cibo Matto. Its on one of their EPs. =jbj= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:42:43 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Black Hole Sung by everyboday jbj: >>There is also a version of this rendered by Cibo Matto. Its on one of >>their EPs. Aha, that one seems to be missing from the AMG. I imagine it's a bit tongue-in-cheek, as is the Moog Cookbook one (which is frankly hilarious). The Mimi version is meant to be serious, I believe, but was probably done based on the same "croonability" that led to the Steve & Eydie one. Which was maybe also kind of meant to be serious in its own way (the orchestral accompaniment is fairly tasteful) , but, I mean, come on. Now if Steve & Eydie could be persuaded to duet on "Big Dumb Sex", THAT would be a record. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: USB 2.0 Mac (revisited) 0% RH (unless I ask about Luxor) Hi. I have a buslink usb 2.0 cdr writer. it is LIGHTNING fast at a break neck speed of 4x4x6. It is trying to run on OS 9 but i get the error message: "Software needed for the USB Device "BUSLINK USB-Optical Bridge Controller" is not available. online searches bring nothing. Any help? Suggestions? (Aside from going to pc?) Herbie np -> "This Charming Man" SMITHS ===== - --------------------------------------------- Rebuilding my websight: http://www34.brinkster.com/bflomidy/ _____________________________________________ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:43:09 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Black Hole Sung by everyboday Rex dryly observes: > Now if Steve & Eydie could be persuaded to duet on "Big Dumb Sex", THAT > would be a record. Heh - my favorite SG song ever. Contains the immortal... "I know what to do / I'm gonna / f*ck / F*CK / f*ck / F*CK YOU! / (echo: 'f*ck you') / Yay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay-ay" (repeat) Or maybe "Disconnected" by Fear :-p Michael "really, anything by Fear would be fine" Wells np: some misc Jeffrey Foucault live stuff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:44:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Phoenix area Hitchcock fans > >>It's a good song, and he doesn't walk through it or anything, but >>>I'm ready to hear something else in its stead -- see this list's >>>frequent complaints about "The Devil's Coachman" in Robyn's '90s >>>setlists. >> >>"Queen Elvis" > >Is that a suggestion for a substitute or a correction? "Queen Elvis" = sung too damn much. > >Jeez...who would want to see Roxy Music without hearing "Love is the >>Drug" and "Do the Strand"?? > >Apparently, several hundred people on Avalon. >I think it's mostly symptomatic of the age of Internet jadedness Yes. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:46:16 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Spam King Rex Rex, all your mails via are marked as spam by our installation of SpamAssassin 2.53. The reason it gives is: X-Spam-Report: FORGED_MUA_IMS,INVALID_MSGID I guess I know why. Here's the relevant header line as it arrives here: Message-ID: The line is wrapped in a strange way. I guess that's why SA thinks it's forged. I wonder if demime is responsible for this: X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain It's possible that the header line breaks during that operation (which is carried out by the smoe.org listserv). Rex, please send a mail to me directly. I'd like to verify if such a direct mail gets tagged as well. Alternatively you could try sending pure ASCII mails. The HTML part gets dropped by demime anyway, so you might as well teach your Outlook to behave itself ... ;-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 13:55:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: USB 2.0 Mac (revisited) 0% RH (unless I ask about Luxor) on 5/12/03 1:33 PM, Mike Swedene at pulp_101@yahoo.com wrote: > Hi. > > I have a buslink usb 2.0 cdr writer. it is LIGHTNING > fast at a break neck speed of 4x4x6. It is trying to > run on OS 9 but i get the error message: > > "Software needed for the USB Device "BUSLINK > USB-Optical Bridge Controller" is not available. > That message usually indicates that the device is what's called "vendor specific". In other words, it doesn't fit into a predefined USB device category. In this case, they don't identify the device as a standard USB Mass Storage device, so the Mac's built-in Mass Storage driver won't load for it. If it works on a USB 1.1 port, it could indicate that it is in fact a standard mass storage device, but there just isn't a 2.0 driver for it. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:54:37 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: USB 2.0 Mac (revisited) 0% RH (unless I ask about Luxor) On Mon, May 12, 2003, Mike Swedene wrote: > I have a buslink usb 2.0 cdr writer. it is LIGHTNING > fast at a break neck speed of 4x4x6. It is trying to > run on OS 9 but i get the error message: > > "Software needed for the USB Device "BUSLINK > USB-Optical Bridge Controller" is not available. > > online searches bring nothing. Any help? Suggestions? > (Aside from going to pc?) I would say no. I looked around the Buslink site and it looks like it only supports Windows. Nice site, too. I like the product pages: - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #175 ********************************