From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #171 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, May 9 2003 Volume 12 : Number 171 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bomb the RIAA ["Michael Wells" ] Re: X-Men 2 [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Tell me about Jason Falkner [steve ] Re: Tell me about Jason Falkner [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] searchable list archives? [Ken Weingold ] RE: searchable list archives? ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: searchable list archives? [Ken Weingold ] Re: searchable list archives? [Ken Weingold ] RE: searchable list archives? ["Brian Huddell" ] tanya, website etc. ["ross taylor" ] missed Muses and other tragedies ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: Luxor question [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: missed Muses and other tragedies ["Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Bomb the RIAA TC observes: > On a related note, I recently received my AOL/Time-Warner yearly report > (yeah, another of my stocks currently in the toilet). I know exactly what you mean. I found investing in toilets right off the bat cut some of the pathos out of the situation http://tinyurl.com/bc5m > What really killed their bottom line was "the expense of > finding and promoting new talent." That tells me that the public is not > willing to buy - or even steal! - their complete shit until it's plowed down > their throats. Isn't "plowing undifferentiated crapola down the throats of uniterested consumers" an actual line expense? They seem to be getting more brazen these days. Quite psyched meself, get to see Jeff Foucault in a couple weeks! http://www.jeffreyfoucault.com Michael "wondering why USA v Mexico even bothered playing on a field that bad" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 20:00:10 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: X-Men 2 Hi, Even though I live on the edge of the world, I find there is a bit of action going on. Here is a newspaper story about the filming of X-Men 2 which happened just on the outskirts of my town. I won't draw you a AWESOME ROADMAP though. "Times Colonist (Victoria) May 29, 2002 X-Men to save universe at Royal Roads by Michael D. Reid The producers of X2 have marked the spot, and it's Victoria. After months of negotiations, Royal Roads University's Hatley Castle has been confirmed as a key shooting location for Twentieth Century Fox's hotly anticipated sequel to The X-Men, the blockbuster based on the adventures of Marvel Comics's outcast mutant superheroes. At least three of the original's returning stars -- Halle Berry, Patrick Stewart and Hugh Jackman -- are featured in scenes tentatively scheduled to be filmed at Hatley Castle the week of June 17. An elaborate second-unit shoot will follow shortly thereafter. The historic edifice will play a starring role in the sequel to the mega-hit that has grossed close to $300 million worldwide since its release two years ago. The castle will masquerade as the same location played by Toronto's Casa Loma -- Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters, a Hogwarts-esque academy where telepathic Prof. Charles Xavier (Stewart) teaches mutants-in-training to control their superpowers...." I must see this movie which you all speak of so highly. Patrick Stewart is enough for me. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:20:29 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Tell me about Jason Falkner On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > I think Jason Falkner's cover of "Love Poisoning" is brilliant. It > gets better each time I listen to it. Should I buy all of his records > now? FYI, here are the covers from his Japan only release called Everyone Says It's On. It's a double, and the other disc is demos of Falkner originals. Of course, Japanese + double CD = damned expensive. Both Sides Now Wicked Annabella Burning Airlines Give You So Much More Johnsberg, Il Pretty Ballerina Song From Under The Floorboards Fanfare In The Garden Midget Submarines Goodbye Toulouse Tomorrow Will Be Too Long You could check out one of his solo albums to see what you think. If you like it, you might try Jellyfish, The Grays, and Jon Brion. - - Steve - ---------- The Himalayan marmot is one of the highest living mammals in the world. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 23:33:39 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Tell me about Jason Falkner Quoting steve : > On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > > I think Jason Falkner's cover of "Love Poisoning" is brilliant. It > > gets better each time I listen to it. Should I buy all of his records > > now? > > FYI, here are the covers from his Japan only release called Everyone > Says It's On. It's a double, and the other disc is demos of Falkner > originals. Of course, Japanese + double CD = damned expensive. Not that bad: I got it direct from the label, Air Mail Recordings (I think at the obvious URL) for $33 (on an international postal money order, so that costs a bit too). Oh - and while _Necessity_ is a domestic release of Falkner demos, it shares only four tracks w/the demo portion of the Japanese release (one song appears on both titles but in different versions). Also check out http://www.jasonfalkner.net - there's usually a rare mp3 up every month, and excerpts from a lot of released tracks. Tha should give you a good idea whether you want to spend money! > Both Sides Now > Wicked Annabella > Burning Airlines Give You So Much More > Johnsberg, Il > Pretty Ballerina > Song From Under The Floorboards > Fanfare In The Garden > Midget Submarines > Goodbye Toulouse > Tomorrow Will Be Too Long plus a "hidden" version of Def Leppard's "Photograph"! > You could check out one of his solo albums to see what you think. If > you like it, you might try Jellyfish, The Grays, and Jon Brion. I think Jellyfish is the most distant from his solo work, the Grays the closest. Brion, of course, was a co-conspirator in the Grays... What I like about Falkner is that while he's fairly clearly in the "power pop" camp, he doesn't approach it with rulebook and cookie-cutter in hand. He's a bit more adventurous in both arrangement and composition than yr generic power-pop act (i.e., time did not stop when the Raspberries broke up). ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:32:50 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Bomb the RIAA A humorous take from another list I'm subbed to... > To the RIAA: > I paid for a concert ticket a few years back and listened to Dark Side > of > the Moon straight from the band. Therefore I am licensed to hear the > song > anytime anywhere. So piss off. > > -- > > RIAA gets congress to pass Music Circumcision Law (NEWS) Dec 25, 2005 > > Newborns are now federally required to get their ears temporarily > "clipped", > which deafens sound to the eardrum until RIAA approved "vouchers" are > given > to surgeons who then are allowed, for a fee, to cut out or perforate > "hearing holes" within sound ranges allowed per category of voucher. > > The price ranges are decided by decibel and size of orifice to be cut. > For > instance, loud "rock" in varying styles and decibel degrees are at the > cheapest range of the price spectrum, up to the expensive luxurious > symphonic resonances which is available to the rich and sophisticated, > literally opening up the entire ear canal for the total sound ranges > possible for a human eardrum. > > The RIAA feels that if this new plan is a success, they will recover > from > the devastating P2P Piracy days of the last decade, which expert music > attorney's claim cost the artists over $50 Trillion dollars per month. > > In Florida, the MPAA is beginning it's lobbying efforts for Visual > Circumcision Laws in an effort to stop illegal movie trading. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:04:21 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: searchable list archives? There's no searchable list archive, is there? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:35:25 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: searchable list archives? > There's no searchable list archive, is there? The best bet that I know of is Lycos. Just search on "fegmaniax" and whatever term you're looking for. "fegmaniax placenta" (without the quotes) returns 32 different digests. There's some lag though. For instance, "fegmaniax soutared" gets no results. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:43:34 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: searchable list archives? On Fri, May 9, 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > > There's no searchable list archive, is there? > > The best bet that I know of is Lycos. Just search on "fegmaniax" and > whatever term you're looking for. "fegmaniax placenta" (without the quotes) > returns 32 different digests. There's some lag though. For instance, > "fegmaniax soutared" gets no results. Thanks. 404 errors on all the smoe.org links. :( - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:49:22 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: searchable list archives? On Fri, May 9, 2003, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2003, Brian Huddell wrote: > > > There's no searchable list archive, is there? > > > > The best bet that I know of is Lycos. Just search on "fegmaniax" and > > whatever term you're looking for. "fegmaniax placenta" (without the quotes) > > returns 32 different digests. There's some lag though. For instance, > > "fegmaniax soutared" gets no results. > > Thanks. 404 errors on all the smoe.org links. :( Ah, translated it to their equivalents on fegmania.org and it works. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 08:50:07 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: searchable list archives? > Thanks. 404 errors on all the smoe.org links. :( That's strange. They're coming up for me. A sample link from a Lycos search on "fegmaniax placenta": http://www.smoe.org/lists/fegmaniax/1997-1/v05.n137 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:09:59 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: tanya, website etc. Rex-- >Tanya Donnelly was a no-show as her daughter had apparently busted her teeth out at an in-store earlier that day. Aww, poor kid. "They put silver where her teeth had been baby silvertooth, she just grins and grins" During one of our later gigs I got called to the bar between songs. The baby-sitter's mom (a neighbor) was on the phone, saying my daughter had busted her chin "but was OK." Eliz went home, I finished the gig a bit distracted. Merce needed stitches, but it healed up OK. It's hugely sexist, but w/ a girl I worry a bunch about scars etc. even if she's basically safe. - --- Nice that Soft Boys "dirty laundry" can be aired in such a civil way. Reminds me exactly of what happened w/ the Washington Review mag & website, but I guess that's the story w/ all indy arts doing their own websites these days. Arts management is its own kind of nightmare. - --- Just saw Procol Harum at the Birchmere, and they can still play the blues. There were even a few young thirty-somethings bobbing their heads. Ross Taylor is "green and yellow buddies" Zappa's most quoted line? Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 09:10:01 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: missed Muses and other tragedies >Do you mean the Human Gnome Project? Gee, I think I participated in that... >Throwing Muses show last night: Tanya Donnelly was a no-show as her >daughter had apparently busted her teeth out at an in-store earlier that >day. Oh, what a bummer! :( I'm still bitter that I missed the Muses in their original line-up because I was a few months shy of turning 19 (the Blind Pig in Ann Arbor, strangely enough, is 19 and over). My friend Marc, who is six months older than me, got to witness Kristin Hersh balancing her guitar on her huge pregnant belly. (Nine years later, I saw what had been inside her belly - her son Ryder - but that doesn't make up for missing the show.) I also missed Robyn on the Eye tour because I was underage. I considered going down to San Francisco to see the revivified Donelly/Hersh line-up, but I'm not really into travelling to see shows anymore. I had a choice between the new Muses album and the new Hersh solo album, and chose the latter... I don't think I've even managed to listen to it all the way through. There's such thing as too much "stark." And yet I didn't like the much more band-oriented "Sunny Border Blue," either. Maybe I'm just not into her anymore, I don't know. So, I mostly >consoled myself with watching David Narcizo, whom I still think is >the most exciting drummer on Earth whose name no one knows. I'd love to see Narcizo perform... *sigh* But at least I've seen Jeremy Barnes of Bablicon/NMH, who is amazing... and plays the kazoo! (He's in a new band called A Hawk and a Handsaw, or something like that - anyone know about this? Stewart, the Elephant 6 stalwart? :) >Jane's Addiction returns to claim its original headlining slot... >with a devastating new album, Hypersonic, to be released on Capitol >Records on July 22nd. "Devastating." (rolls eyes) >The Donnas have kicked down the doors of rock's boys' room with a >Chuck Taylor-ed foot. Why must every blurb or review about a rockin' female artist include something about how they can rock just as hard as the boys? Who cares? I hate the Donnas, anyway... boring cock rock played by girls is still boring cock rock. So yesterday I picked up the soundtrack to "The Slaughter Rule," a movie I have no interest in seeing (though Jason Thornton's twin, David Morse, is in it). The soundtrack features music by Jay Farrar, Vic Chesnutt, the Pernice Brothers, Neko Case, and other worthies. I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but I already love Farrar's instrumentals, which form the bulk of the soundtrack - very atmospheric and bleak. There's also a beautiful song by Farrar called "Gather," which gets me all choked up. His new album's gonna be something to behold. I hope so, anyway. Dunno if anyone's interested in that kind of music, but you guys are pretty eclectic, so... anyway, gnat "my friends shun me now because I like alt-country" the gnatster _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 09:13:03 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Coachella lineup was MUCH better >From: Eb >Subject: Coachella lineup was MUCH better >LOLLAPALOOZA 2003 READY TO TAKE OFF Coachella was greaT. Did you go? I only made the second day, and saw almost nothing on stages 2-5 (missed Interpol, Johnny Marr, etc.). It was worth it for Iggy & the Stooges alone, but the Polyphonic Spree, the Mars Volta, and the Soundtrack of Our Lives were all surprisingly good/energetic. I finally saw a good set from Sonic Youth, so much better than the total yawner I saw back on the Washing Machine tour. The White Stripes were very good, but I would bet that I didn't see one of their better sets. Jack Johnson was good, but mellower than I was in the mood for. The only real disappointment in the day was the Red Hot Chili Peppers. I was hoping to figure out why they get talked about as much as they do, but nope, the Stooges blew them off the stage, and I think they knew it. Mike Watt was a good choice to fill the bass slot. I'm willing to bet that this will show up as a live album. They really should play a few more shows--I'd go again (and again). Later, Marc "I hope that when I die people say, "That guy sure owed me a lot of money". Jack Handy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 12:26:02 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: missed Muses and other tragedies Quoting Natalie Jane : > I'm still bitter that I missed the Muses in their original line-up > because I > was a few months shy of turning 19 (the Blind Pig in Ann Arbor, > strangely > enough, is 19 and over). I also missed > Robyn > on the Eye tour because I was underage. 19 and over at the Blind Pig? Really? Geez, Then I *just* made for those Robyn shows it back in 1990. I would've gone bonkers, at the time, if they didn't let me in. - -Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 11:57:32 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Luxor question I feel like I've been living in a fog -- is Luxor ONLY available through amazon.co.uk? Or is there some other place it can be found? Thanks, Sumi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 13:12:38 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Luxor question I got mine here: http://www.stinkweeds.com/cgi-bin/getit2.cgi?item=I8914I - -Nuppy Quoting Sumiko Keay : > I feel like I've been living in a fog -- is Luxor ONLY available > through > amazon.co.uk? Or is there some other place it can be found? > > Thanks, > > Sumi ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 10:57:17 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: missed Muses and other tragedies At 09:10 AM 5/9/2003 -0700, Natalie Jane wrote: >Stewart, the Elephant 6 stalwart? :) I saw the Essex Green two nights ago... pretty thin crowd. Not sure how many Elephant-stalwarts there are left in the world, but there never really seemed to be many in this town. >So yesterday I picked up the soundtrack to "The Slaughter Rule," a movie I >have no interest in seeing (though Jason Thornton's twin, David Morse, is >in it). I now refer to him as Maxi-Me, since he's so much taller than I. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:11:24 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The RIAA and these damn kids these days Ken: >>The best counter to that I ever saw was the t-shirts and stickers that >>said, "Home fucking is killing prostitution". Can't be too good for the structural integrity of the homes, either. _____ Ferris: >>While there's a lot of files being >>shoved around the net that are rips of new material, there's a fair amount >>of it that's out of print. While the argument against releasing >>back-catalog material might be slightly rooted in contractual obligations, >>I could see that the bulk of the argument is made from the view of >>prohibitive cost for nominal (or unknown) returns. Aha. Now you're getting to the only part of this whole issue that really matters to me personally. Then again I'm pretty much a guy who already has everything on any major label which is of any interest to me. All these hype around file-trading touts it as ways to find the "newest, coolest music", but what I use(d) it for was to find the oldest, uncoolest music... tracks from out-of-print CD's or digitized vinyl from records that never made it to CD (*coughsixwholeneilyoungalbumscough*), that kind of thing. It does seem that there's money to be made by prepping those kinds of records for purchase without printing them (you could even get files of the artwork along with your purchase)... but maybe I'm more of a minority on this whole issue than I think I am. I do, however, think that the desire to trade files of current hits by current artists is overstated... those tunes are on the damn radio, man, and nobody's freaking out about that. But the fiction has to be maintained to prop up the perception that the industry's A&R money is being well spent finding worthwhile artist and nurturing their careers. Ha. Ha. Ha. Jeff D: >>even for fans of people are overtly commercial as Justin >>Timberlake or Christina Aguilera or The Dixie Chicks, I >>think there still something special about the tangible >>album itself beyond the mere recording(s). But maybe not. I wonder about this. It may be true for older fans who grew up with CD's (hurts to write that, man), and it's definitely true for me, but I grew up with that feeling, and without music available in the ether. Maybe kids today feel differently, particularly those without much disposible income. At the age when I first started to be intensely interested in music, I was reading about far more interesting records I was able to afford, and I encountered some of my future-favorite albums on homemade XLII's of my friends' LPS, and I was content with them in that form until I started building a CD collection in earnest years later. So, take that a step further and mix in the fact that a lot of kids only want the two or three singles from an album to begin with, and the allure of packaging, or even the physicality of what I still mysteriously call a "record", may just not be getting instilled in the youth of today. Which is fine, really. I mean, packaging has been going to hell since the demise of LP's anyway. Remember when they tried to introduce prerecorded MiniDiscs, and what the artwork looked like? As if the cover to Sgt. Pepper's needed to be smaller than it was on CD. And one assumes that the next "hard" (physically extant) audio format will be sold on its smallness and increased capacity... the whole Dylan catalog on one tiny cube or something. How do include satisfying packaging with that? It's better off on your hard drive with some scans of the album covers at that point. I recently heard that the Library of Congress (I think) has gone back to high quality 78's as the ideal, longest lasting storage medium for archival recordings, and they're mastering lots of current recordings (the ones deemed important) onto them as well as the historical stuff. Little bit of Guthrie, little bit of Eminem. They do this around the clock as if their lives depended on it. That sounds like a good job to me, and I'm not even being sarcastic. ______ Lollapalooza 2003... wow, that lineup sounds like shit. - -Rex, increasingly old and increasingly fogey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:37:58 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Hey, they both wrote songs called "America", so there's a connect ion Eb: >>I'd be very curious to know if the setlist changed radically, because >>of Donelly's absence. The song choices leaned pretty lightly on the >>new album, I thought. They played 9 out of the 12 songs on the new record. From what I've heard they dropped only the Tanya-written songs from the previous night (Honeychain, Not Too Soon, maybe one other one) and otherwise played the same stuff. Tanya was only scheduled for half the dates on the tour, so the set was probably rehearsed to work both ways. >>Question: If the Muses can still pack *two* nights at the Knitting >>Factory, why do all their albums always seem like commercial flops? >>Strange. Because they were only playing four cities; lots of hardcore fans from out of town traveled to see them, especially with the added bonus of Tanya. Larger tour, no Tanya, no two night sellout in LA... safe bet. >>So, I mostly >>consoled myself with watching David Narcizo, whom I still think is >>the most exciting drummer on Earth whose name no one knows. Agreed on that one. He won't be in the new Hersh band, which is a shame (and also probably the reason she's finally retiring the Muses name). >>So, Rex, you heard the child's teeth were knocked out *at Amoeba*? Yeah, but not from the most reputable of sources-- supposedly she fell down some stairs there. I'm doubting it now as the instore seems to have gone off without a hitch and also without Tanya. >>Rex (possibly standing about seven feet to the left and behind me, >>but I'm not sure that I can identify him) I think you're right-- you were wearing a hat? About three songs in, my friend Mike pointed out someone who resembled a mutual acquaintance, and I looked and it wasn't who he thought it was but I believe it was Eb. Lost track of you two songs later and didn't see you after the show. (Oddly, my friend who pointed you out had once forwarded me one of your reviews of a band I like and asked me if you were related to me.) I was the tall guy with the goatee standing between the overweight guy and the short girl... oh, wait, I just described every single person at the show. ___ jbj: >>Their albums have been wildly uneven - for me it seems >>like every other album is good. I loved "Limbo", but this new one really >>bugs me. Every aspect of the song seems to take a backseat to "the wall of >>sound". I hate the production on this one. Interesting. I far prefer the more organic production on the new disc to that of "Limbo", which seems just too clean and shiny to me (although I know I'm in the minority among Muses fans on this one). The grit on the new one does more to complement/offset Kristin's naturally precise writing and playing. So for my money, your Star-Trek-Movie-Like, Every-Other-One-Is-Good theory holds for me at least as far back as House Tornado/Real Ramona/University/USES (which is what I call it and what was written on their t-shirts). And yeah, the songs all even out live. I think they've recorded some of the shows with Tanya for release through the Muses website, and that'll be must right there. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 13:30:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: The RIAA and these damn kids these days On Fri, 9 May 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Aha. Now you're getting to the only part of this whole issue that really > matters to me personally. Then again I'm pretty much a guy who already has > everything on any major label which is of any interest to me. All these > hype around file-trading touts it as ways to find the "newest, coolest > music", but what I use(d) it for was to find the oldest, uncoolest music... > tracks from out-of-print CD's or digitized vinyl from records that never > made it to CD (*coughsixwholeneilyoungalbumscough*), that kind of thing. It > does seem that there's money to be made by prepping those kinds of records > for purchase without printing them (you could even get files of the artwork > along with your purchase)... but maybe I'm more of a minority on this whole > issue than I think I am. My guess is that most file-trading involves already popular songs - and is participated in by people who are casual music fans. Unfortunately for the major-label blockbuster strategy, it's exactly those people who need to buy a record for it to be a success under that strategy. Serious music fans approach buying (and downloading) music completely differently, I'd say - but major label sales strategy isn't geared toward them. I know when I download music through, uh, other than strictly legal channels, it's almost invariably way-out-of-print stuff, or old singles that may be available on comps but I need only the one song. If the major labels got together and formed a collective eMusic-like subscription file-sharing deal, I'd join - certainly at eMusic rates ($10/mo), and probably at higher rates if back catalog including o/o/p were extensively represented. But they're too stupid and arriere-garde to do that... > I mean, packaging has been going to hell since the demise of LP's anyway. > Remember when they tried to introduce prerecorded MiniDiscs, and what the > artwork looked like? As if the cover to Sgt. Pepper's needed to be smaller > than it was on CD. And one assumes that the next "hard" (physically extant) > audio format will be sold on its smallness and increased capacity... the > whole Dylan catalog on one tiny cube or something. How do include > satisfying packaging with that? It's better off on your hard drive with > some scans of the album covers at that point. While I agree w/you about making music "smaller" as being a problem, I disagree with you on the "packaging has been going to hell" argument. It's a question of design: yes, if you simply photoreduce an image designed to be displayed at 12x12 to a 4 3/4" square, you'll lose a lot...but if you think in terms of designing for either the 4.75 square or folding-out pages of that size, some quite nice work has been done. A painting, say, isn't automatically better because it's bigger. How big is the Mona Lisa? > I recently heard that the Library of Congress (I think) has gone back to > high quality 78's as the ideal, longest lasting storage medium for archival > recordings, and they're mastering lots of current recordings (the ones > deemed important) onto them as well as the historical stuff. Little bit of > Guthrie, little bit of Eminem. They do this around the clock as if their > lives depended on it. That sounds like a good job to me, and I'm not even > being sarcastic. I suppose the advantages are that (a) the higher speed means less information stored in any given space, or to put it another way, more less crowding of detail, and (b) that it's a physical medium with a simple interface (i.e., a needle and amplification system, that can be simply built if need be) unlike software-based storage systems, which risk obsolescence if the format no longer can be read. How about an LP record encased in clear plastic readable by a laser needle? > Lollapalooza 2003... wow, that lineup sounds like shit. It sounds almost completely irrelevant to anything musically interesting, certainly. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::SCENE 2: ::Aunt Fritzi applies lipstick in the mirror. In the next room, Sluggo ::removes his ever-present cap and blows his nose in a red handkerchief. ::Nancy enters the room and accuses Sluggo of stealing the donuts that ::Aunt Fritzi made for her. Sluggo looks at the clock, which reads 8:54, ::and says he'd better hurry or he'll be late for his trombone lesson. np: Sonic Youth _Confusion Is Sex_ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #171 ********************************