From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #163 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, May 2 2003 Volume 12 : Number 163 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Breif Luxor review [brian@lazerlove5.com] RE: Strangers with Candy DVD release, tour... [gshell@metronet.com] Re: OT: Strangers with Candy DVD release, tour... [The Great Quail ] Soutared [The Great Quail ] Eb's love life [bayard ] Re: Bevies and the end of an era [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Bevies and the end of an era [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] feggish story, etc. ["ross taylor" ] Alternate name [Rattail ] Surly Non-Cooperation / Whose Sideman Is He, Anyway? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Surly Non-Cooperation / Whose Sideman Is He, Anyway? [John Barringto] Re: Manor House [Marcy Tanter ] Speaking of bass players... [Glen Uber ] Re: Manor House [Eb ] Re: Speaking of bass players... [John Barrington Jones ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] I wanna function with a Bass [Glen Uber ] Re: I wanna function with a Bass [John Barrington Jones ] Re: Surly Non-Cooperation / Whose Sideman Is He, Anyway? [brian@lazerlov] Re: I wanna function with a Bass [Jonathan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mor=E9n?= ] UGH! [Eb ] Re: I wanna function with a Bass [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: I wanna function with a Bass [Tom Clark ] Gently House [Brian Cully ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 09:23:59 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Breif Luxor review Luxor was waiting in my mailbox for me last night. I took the disc to the gym with me and gave it a whirl (not the best work-out music!). It's hard for me not to think about Robyn's last release, which was the Soft Boys. Nextdoorland and Side 3 were my favorite Robyn releases in a long time and I would've loved that trend to continue. But, I like Luxor. Interesting enough, but to me it sounds more like either of Barrett's solo albums than anything Robyn has ever released. Could be some of the low range vocals and the talk of yams. 2 splendid instrumentals are included on this disc. After 1 and a half listens, I can't exactly tell how this piece of work will sit with me, but I expect it will sit well. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 08:37:48 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: RE: Strangers with Candy DVD release, tour... On Thu, 1 May 2003, Catherine Simpson wrote: > Wow... I didn't realize anyone actually LIKED that show... I'm not trying to > be a smart-ass, I've just truly never heard anyone who'd seen it who didn't > hate it, so it never occurred to me that it would be released on DVD or > video... swc is one of the finest sitcoms ever. what made it so good was it's lack of regard for mainstream courtesy or urbane correctness. it hit on all of the most common and disturbing social trots. it's a masterpiece. gSs "I'm not adopted and I'm not an Indian. It's just a coincidence that I have a love of gambling and booze and a knack for catching syphilis" - jerri blank ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 09:42:55 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: OT: Strangers with Candy DVD release, tour... > I know an arty New York chick who really, really likes that show. Me too! LJ and I both *loved* watching "Strangers with Candy." I am actually surprised more Fegs did not. It was one of the most truly perverse, subversive, weird-ass TV shows I've seen in a long, long time. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 09:52:10 -0400 From: mary Subject: Re: OT: Strangers with Candy DVD release, tour... I love the show too. I found it more shocking than South Park. And I'm a big Amy Sedaris fan. When LJ and I met her we were both tongue-tied and couldn't say anything more than the stupid "Amy we're your biggest fans!" In her brother's book "Me Talk Pretty Some Day" he tells about how Amy is the prettiest in the family and yet she takes great pleasure in making herself appear as ugly as possible (society's notion of ugly - certainly not Amy's!) She's my hero! Mary ps - happy belated birthday to Bayard! np - Julian Cope "Peggy Suicide" At 09:42 AM 5/2/2003 -0400, The Great Quail wrote: > > I know an arty New York chick who really, really likes that show. > >Me too! LJ and I both *loved* watching "Strangers with Candy." I am actually >surprised more Fegs did not. It was one of the most truly perverse, >subversive, weird-ass TV shows I've seen in a long, long time. > >--Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 11:37:03 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Soutared > Do I sense a new verb? "Soutared" meaning "to be lambasted for an opinion > expressed online". You know, I understand that I am about to look really unpopular, but there is a *reason* that people take issue with a lot of Barbara's comments. It's not like people just dog-pile on her for kicks. This forum has a lot of opinionated people, and she's one of them. When you toss your hat into the ring, you take the consequences, especially if your opinion is, shall we say, open for vigorous debate. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 09:32:30 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Eb's love life > Did you ever? He did! I think she left the list shortly thereafter, though. LOL ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 17:31:32 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Bevies and the end of an era > AidMerr@aol.com wrote: > > - it's a current English word for as many of something as you can > > carry unaided On Thu, 1 May 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > If you can carry: > * a flock of quails, or larks (which I always thought was an > 'exultation', but there you go.) > * a company, or group of people, especially girls or women. > * some roedeer. That's "exaltation", Stewart! - - Mike "choirs of angels" Godwin PS "Bevvy" with a double-ve is of course an abbreviation for "beverage" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:47:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Soutared On Fri, 2 May 2003, The Great Quail wrote: > not like people just dog-pile on her for kicks. This forum has a lot of > opinionated people Huh? what? Oh, sorry - thought I heard someone calling my name. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:49:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Bevies and the end of an era On Fri, 2 May 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > That's "exaltation", Stewart! > But it doesn't include my favorite collective noun term: A ream of lawyers. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Never drive a car when you're dead:: __Tom Waits__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:23:22 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Bevies and the end of an era Michael R Godwin wrote: > > That's "exaltation", Stewart! hey, it was early -- I claim mayday-morn after-effects. Stewart (who wishes he could have three heads so I could listen to The Essex Green, the Of Montreal tour CD, and a live Circulatory System recording.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 10:43:07 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Spring and all that aaron: >>I never see much personality in Gibbard when he >>performs in Boston. My impression of him as a live singer is so different >>from that of some of my friends elsewhere that I wonder if he just doesn't >>like the venues here or something. This has happened to me with a bunch of performers, but I think in my case it's because a lot of folks just hate playing in LA, period. Too many showcases early on filled with inattentive industry weasels. It can be a drag because us paying fans bear the brunt of it. I haven't seen such a show for a while because, well, I just don't see as many shows as I used to, and, really, once I see or hear about a show like that I kind of mentally cross those artists off my mental "must-see" list. _______ Barbara: >>And for all the other frisky fellows, I realize that's it's Spring and a >>young man's fancy... Wait, a young man's fancy... what? Fancy pants? Fancy lingerie? Or do you just mean "a young man is fancy"? Ah, well. I myself am only one of the three. (Specifically a man, if you're wondering.) >>Women, come out and help me with these guys. Kay? Marcy? And... ummm... what kind of "help" can we expect from the Women of Feg? A pictorial calendar, perhaps? ______ Jeff D: >>For some reason I remember getting treated like Barbara >>when I said this before, but "Flesh Number One (Beatle >>Dennis)," with "Unsettled" a semi-close second Yikes... hate "Globe of Frogs" much? That was my first Robyn album and I still see it as pretty much quintessential if imperfect. I can see disliking those two songs... kind of... "Unsettled" maybe a little rote, and "Flesh" too poppy by a hair, is that it? ___ Eb, then the question of the hour, then Eb: >>>>Man, I never get any Feggy-snatch anymore. >>Did you ever? >> Dude... he totally did, didn't he? Look, he's blushing! - -Rex, innocent of intimate physical contact with any woman possessing any more than a passing interest in the music of Robyn Hitchcock, at least at the time of any such encounter and to the best of my knowledge... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:40:02 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: feggish story, etc. Well, I sure liked "Narcissus" the story. I think it's really a serious story, tho there are lots of funny bits. It's surreal, but has a plot that moves right along, charactors you can relate to, etc. I suppose I could harrumph and say it's in the tradition of Kafka and Borges et al, but the strange parts of it remind me more of Tales of Hoffman or a Hans Christian Anderson for mod grownups. (Kay, are you around?) A big part of it is a realistic (with a few strange blips) look at rock performers, the after-show scene -- and then it takes a couple of left turns. It seems to deal w/ ego & identity. An interesting quote (re. Jeme's recent comment -- well, this is fiction, & the main character isn't neccessarily RH, but this does seem to be a topic of his): "The people upstairs, meanwhile--the savants in the balcony--dug the irony of the whole thing. Here was a man clearly uncomfortable with himself and his self-selected role in the world, who was making that point *precisely* by emphasizing the opposite." It gets more involved, but it's nice for a story about self-love to also find a place for self-hate. Lots of amusing names & characters, including one who had "a habit of addressing people as if their heads were nine inches to the left of where they really were, but he didn't miss much." I knew someone like that. His eyesight was real bad & he was using his peripheral vision, but he was odd all round. Also lots of really cool images, plus images that recur or transform in the story w/ out being heavy-handedly emphasized in a psychedelic way -- tho there is some fun weirdness too. There are even elements that seem to comment on the nature of story-telling, tho I think some of those are the weakest things in the piece. Also, a little of the psychologizing is obvious. In my Opinion. But it has a real dream-like urgency. Now I've got to plow thru the rest of the book-- I've hit a couple of other stories already that aren't nearly as good (Kinky Friedman & Greg Kihn), tho I think there'll be some more good ones. - ---- Bevy-- My only familiarity w/ this is in the sense of a flock, as in "a bevy of bathing beauties." - --- Sorry about Positive Vibrations. I do get the sense that a lot of the DIY aspect of the web is fading. It was exciting at first, but time consuming & now the big players get more & more of the attention. - --- gnat-- >The midwifery profession is infested with hippies... And don't half of them practice Wicca? - --- Least favorite song? "One Long Pair of Eyes." But the video was fun. I like the melody of "Legalized Murder" and it's more realistic than most of Lennon/Ono's Sometime in New York City in it's politics. I could join others in voting for Wafflehead, but when a song seems that deliberately meant to annoy, I think it's best ignored. Ross Taylor "you're a ghost, la la la you're a ghost, la la la and I'm the Bishop and I've come to reclaim you with my iron drum" -- John Cale Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 10:19:41 +0100 From: Rattail Subject: Alternate name Since I've noticed that my real name is being vilified, I offer you this alternate one. And check out our website where we sell this great product for ham radio users. I can't miss a golden opportunity to advertise can I? http://rattailantenna.com/ Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia (now covered in pink petals) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:00:44 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Surly Non-Cooperation / Whose Sideman Is He, Anyway? Aidan: >>I'd especially like to thank >>Robyn Hitchcock for his surly non-cooperation, Sincere Management for >>periodically threatening me with injunctions every time anyone dare to >>criticise "Respect", and Matthew Seligman for refusing to pay bills and >>drunkenly chatting up every woman among us with whom he ever came into >>contact. Before this gets taken to heart and becomes conventional Fegwisdon, I'll say of Matthew Seligman that from my contact with him, he's a swell guy indeed. Just gave a friend a copy of Underwater Moonlight as a birthday gift... Seligman was his prime point of interest. He's a self-professed fan of Matthew's based primarily on the Thomas Dolby connection, but until now he had no Soft Boys or Robyn records at all. Seems odd from the Feg-perspective, but I guess Dolby really, actually did sell quite a few more records than the Soft Boys, and somebody has to read all those liner notes. However... I can't think of a Dolby tune where the bass sounds anything other than synthesized (although I know Seligman was into synths, too, and there are lots of Dolby songs I haven't heard). I also scored some cheap used Moe Tucker discs at the same time, but my daughter seems to have hidden "I Spent a Week There" before I even had a chance to listen to it. And she seems to have hidden it very, very well. I'll admit that Robyn has never cooperated with me, either, but then I've never asked him to. It's entirely possible, therefore, that his non-cooperation has been surly indeed, but I'm in no position to judge. - -Rex np. some free stuff that just landed on my desk, first time that's happened in a while ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 11:52:32 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Manor House Anybody watch the six hours of Manor House on PBS this week? We just polished off the last two hours last night and I thought it was great. Not only was it a great history lesson into the mores of Edwardian England, but I thought it was interesting how the individual participants struggled to stay authentic. I hope they do more series like that; it's a lot more "real" than the crap that passes for reality TV on the big networks. I still like "Survivor", though. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:01:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Surly Non-Cooperation / Whose Sideman Is He, Anyway? > Just gave a friend a copy of Underwater Moonlight as a birthday gift... > Seligman was his prime point of interest. He's a self-professed fan of > Matthew's based primarily on the Thomas Dolby connection, but until now he I think Matthew also has a Thompson Twins connection. Does anyone know what album(s) he played on for the Twins?? =jbj=, not afraid to express his love for cheezy 80's synthpop. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 14:01:06 -0500 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: Manor House I watched the whole thing and I was disappointed. The first two "houses" focused more on the history and what people had to go through to live as realistically as possible. This time, the staff lived realistically but the upstairs folk had way too much 21st century in their lives and the parents were insufferable. They learned nothing from the experience--they became snobs very easily and the mother was aware of it, but she didn't seem to see it as a negative. Marcy At 11:52 AM 5/2/2003 -0700, Tom Clark wrote: >Anybody watch the six hours of Manor House on PBS this week? We just >polished off the last two hours last night and I thought it was great. Not >only was it a great history lesson into the mores of Edwardian England, but >I thought it was interesting how the individual participants struggled to >stay authentic. I hope they do more series like that; it's a lot more >"real" than the crap that passes for reality TV on the big networks. > >I still like "Survivor", though. > >-tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 12:06:22 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Speaking of bass players... Is there some sort of rift between Robyn and Andy that has prevented them from playing together in, what, 9 years now? Was Andy even invited to be a part of the Soft Boys' reunion? Are they still friends? Does Andy have his own thing going? Does he hate the road? All the other Soft Boys have played on his tours and solo albums, but Andy has been conspicuously absent. Anyone know the whole story? I gotta know!!! - -- Cheers! - -g- "Why of course the people don9t want war. . .That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -- Hermann Goering, on or about 18 April 1946, Nuremberg War Crimes Trial ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:16:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Manor House >Anybody watch the six hours of Manor House on PBS this week? We just >polished off the last two hours last night and I thought it was great. Not >only was it a great history lesson into the mores of Edwardian England, but >I thought it was interesting how the individual participants struggled to >stay authentic. I hope they do more series like that; it's a lot more >"real" than the crap that passes for reality TV on the big networks. I didn't see this...what made this different from the previous "The 1900 House"? (Or whatever it was called?) >> >>"Miss Elizabeth." > >Who is that? Ooh, you mean J. Dignan isn't the ONLY one who can post deaths too esoteric and highbrow for others to recognize them? ;) Actually, "Miss Elizabeth" is a longtime stalwart of professional wrestling. Heh. She's the former wife/"manager" of Randy "Macho Man" Savage and was similarly hooked up with "Lex Luger" in recent times. She was only 42, and living with Luger at the time of her death. Cause is unknown as yet, but drugs may be involved. I mostly know this stuff because Lawndart is an inexplicably gonzo wrestling fan. See http://www.1wrestling.com for official news. My kingdom for a satisfying night's sleep..... Eb, not sure that he was even *aware* of that Positive Vibrations website PS Already, it starts: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2526657115&category=1578 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:17:28 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: Speaking of bass players... My personal theory has always been that the end of the Egyptians had more to do with a falling out between Robyn and Andy than with anything Robyn said at the time ("grown men in their 40's should not be playing in rock bands", etc etc etc.). I knew it was bullshit when I saw him playing with the Viva Seatac boys in Seattle, and was confirmed when he played with a band for Jewels, and then reformed the Soft Boys. I'd love to talk to Andy sometime and find out his side of the story. =jbj= On Fri, 2 May 2003, Glen Uber wrote: > Is there some sort of rift between Robyn and Andy that has prevented them > from playing together in, what, 9 years now? Was Andy even invited to be a > part of the Soft Boys' reunion? Are they still friends? Does Andy have his > own thing going? Does he hate the road? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 11:42:48 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap on 5/2/03 5:10 AM, Maximilian Lang at maximlang@hotmail.com wrote: >> "Miss Elizabeth." > > > Who is that? From the old (80's/90's) days of WWF wrestling. She was "Macho Man" Randy Savage's manager/wife. I saw this obit this morning and it was very sad. She apparently was living with wrestler "Lex Lugar" and he was not a nice fellow at all. Already arrested once for punching her in the face, now he's been hauled in on a drug charge. They are still investigating her cause of death, but my guess is he went "Scott Peterson" on her. Not that I'm a wrestling fan or anything, but it was very mainstream in the late 80's. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 12:34:44 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: I wanna function with a Bass Shock and Awe! More Robyn content and more bass player talk. I'd like to take an informal poll to see which of the bassists Robyn has worked with is the feg favorite. I'm interested in knowing why a particular player is your favorite, as well. Is it technical ability? Is it groove? Is it something completely different? I'm including anyone who has ever touched the instrument on any of his albums. Robyn himself Andy Matthew Kimberley Grant Lee Phillips Jon Brion Jake Kyle Sara Lee Chris Cox Chris Thompson Scott McCaughey John Fell - -- Cheers! - -g- "Half the world's starving and have the world bloats; half the world sits on the other and gloats." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: I wanna function with a Bass What about the "Pino Palladino Sessions"?? jk, =jbj= On Fri, 2 May 2003, Glen Uber wrote: > Shock and Awe! More Robyn content and more bass player talk. > > I'd like to take an informal poll to see which of the bassists Robyn has > worked with is the feg favorite. I'm interested in knowing why a particular > player is your favorite, as well. Is it technical ability? Is it groove? Is > it something completely different? > > I'm including anyone who has ever touched the instrument on any of his > albums. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 15:47:02 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Surly Non-Cooperation / Whose Sideman Is He, Anyway? Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > Before this gets taken to heart and becomes conventional Fegwisdon, I'll > say > of Matthew Seligman that from my contact with him, he's a swell guy > indeed. > > Just gave a friend a copy of Underwater Moonlight as a birthday > gift... > Seligman was his prime point of interest. He's a self-professed fan > of > Matthew's based primarily on the Thomas Dolby connection, but until now > he > had no Soft Boys or Robyn records at all. Seems odd from the > Feg-perspective, but I guess Dolby really, actually did sell quite a > few > more records than the Soft Boys, and somebody has to read all those > liner > notes. However... I can't think of a Dolby tune where the bass sounds > anything other than synthesized (although I know Seligman was into > synths, > too, and there are lots of Dolby songs I haven't heard). I completely agree with Rex on Matthew Seligman. I assume Adian's comments were in jest. Has your friend heard Bruce Woolley and the Camera Club "English Garden"? This fine example of 1979 pop features both Matthew and Thomas on every song. Highly recommended. Also this record features an early incarnation of Video Killed The Radio Star (more rock band style). - -Nuppppppy PS thanks to Adian for PV! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 22:50:55 +0200 From: Jonathan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mor=E9n?= Subject: Re: I wanna function with a Bass Chris Cox. It's the double bass. At 12:34 2003-05-02 -0700, you wrote: >Shock and Awe! More Robyn content and more bass player talk. > >I'd like to take an informal poll to see which of the bassists Robyn has >worked with is the feg favorite. I'm interested in knowing why a particular >player is your favorite, as well. Is it technical ability? Is it groove? Is >it something completely different? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:01:44 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Robyzzle Hitchcizzle If Snoop Dogg took over fegmania.org from woj: http://www.asksnoop.com/shizzolator.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Ffegmania.org - -- Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:02:43 -0700 From: Eb Subject: UGH! VICTORIA -- Nanaimo's jazz darling Diana Krall and Elvis Costello are engaged to be married. "They are engaged. But where the marriage is going to be I don't have any idea," Diana's father, Jim Krall, said Thursday. Krall, a Nanaimo chartered accountant, said he doesn't know when the wedding will take place or any other details. He said he's "very happy" about their impending marriage. A source at Sam Feldman & Associates, the Vancouver company that manages Krall, confirmed the engagement but declined to provide details. A publicist for her record label, Verve, said she could not comment on the personal life of an artist. Costello, 48, and his wife of 16 years, former Pogues bassist Cait O'Riordan, announced last November they were splitting up. Krall, 38, met Costello at a Grammy awards ceremony in 2002. In January, the pair were spotted shopping together at a Nanaimo record store. In February they appeared together in public at a Grammy awards ceremony where Krall picked up an award for best jazz vocal album. That month they also performed a duet on stage at London's Old Vic Theatre. Krall was 19 and playing at a Nanaimo restaurant when she was discovered by famed bassist Ray Brown. Her 1999 album, When I Look in Your Eyes, became an international bestseller and earned a Grammy. Costello emerged in 1977 as an angry punk/New Wave artist with his debut album, My Aim is True. His hits include Alison, Watching the Detectives, Pump It Up and Veronica. In recent years he's broadened his artistic palette, recording with Burt Bacharach and Ann Sofie von Otter. - -- Victoria Times Colonist ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 16:06:27 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: I wanna function with a Bass Matthew! Just listen to the 1st version of Groovin On An Inner Plane or the middle part in Insanely Jealous. The Lizard! 2nd would definately be Andy and I really miss his input in Robyn's music sometimes (sniff, snob). 3rd would be Robyn himself. Nuppy Quoting Glen Uber : > Shock and Awe! More Robyn content and more bass player talk. > > I'd like to take an informal poll to see which of the bassists Robyn > has > worked with is the feg favorite. I'm interested in knowing why a > particular > player is your favorite, as well. Is it technical ability? Is it groove? > Is > it something completely different? > > I'm including anyone who has ever touched the instrument on any of his > albums. > > Robyn himself > Andy > Matthew > Kimberley > Grant Lee Phillips > Jon Brion > Jake Kyle > Sara Lee > Chris Cox > Chris Thompson > Scott McCaughey > John Fell > > -- > > Cheers! > -g- > > "Half the world's starving and have the world bloats; half the world > sits on > the other and gloats." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 13:32:52 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I wanna function with a Bass on 5/2/03 12:34 PM, Glen Uber at apostrophe@cruxofthebiscuit.com wrote: > Shock and Awe! More Robyn content and more bass player talk. > > I'd like to take an informal poll to see which of the bassists Robyn has > worked with is the feg favorite. I'm interested in knowing why a particular > player is your favorite, as well. Is it technical ability? Is it groove? Is > it something completely different? > > I'm including anyone who has ever touched the instrument on any of his > albums. > > Robyn himself > Andy > Matthew > Kimberley > Grant Lee Phillips > Jon Brion > Jake Kyle > Sara Lee > Chris Cox > Chris Thompson > Scott McCaughey > John Fell I'd have to say Matthew. I like Sara Lee's work, but she really didn't contribute enough to qualify, in my book. My favorite bassists are the ones you have to listen for, and when you do you say, "Wow, nice line there", or "I hadn't noticed that before, but it really fits nicely." Andy's work, especially with The Egyptians, was way too over the top and obvious. I'm sure that had something to do with his production of a lot of the tracks. Even so, "Knife" is one of my fave tracks just for his playing. Getting back to Matt, he really shines on the new SB's stuff, as has been well documented here. And his history, like on UM and RH's early solo stuff, puts him head and shoulders above the rest. My .02, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 17:33:20 -0400 From: Brian Cully Subject: Gently House On Friday, May 2, 2003, at 15:01 America/New_York, Marcy Tanter wrote: > I watched the whole thing and I was disappointed. The first two > "houses" focused more on the history and what people had to go through > to live as realistically as possible. This time, the staff lived > realistically but the upstairs folk had way too much 21st century in > their lives and the parents were insufferable. They learned nothing > from the experience--they became snobs very easily and the mother was > aware of it, but she didn't seem to see it as a negative. My girlfriend is fond of quoting: "It is difficult to be sat on all day, every day, by some other creature, without forming an opinion about them. "On the other hand, it is perfectly possible to sit all day, every day on top of another creature and not have the slightest thought about them whatsoever."[1] Normally in regards to male/female relations, but it applies quite well to what you saw on Manor House. I've only seen last night's two hours, so I may be speaking prematurely, but I was really digging on it. It's an amazing experiment, one that the the participants (or at least the lord's families) don't seem to recognize. I just couldn't help but come back to the above quote, again and again, while watching it, and while I may not be too keen on the social structure, I do love the look into our social evolution and seeing how far we haven't come. - -bjc [1] Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, Douglas Adams. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #163 ********************************