From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #157 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 26 2003 Volume 12 : Number 157 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Smokin' indie-babes ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: RH question [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Smokin' indie-snatch [Glen Uber ] Re: Smokin' indie-snatch [Eb ] The Indie-Klingon Starlets of Japanese Soaps ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: The Indie-Klingon Starlets of Japanese Soaps ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Sexist Friday [steve ] Re: an unlikely poll [Jeff Dwarf ] You'll never walk alone [bayard ] Playing Cards [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:27:56 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Smokin' indie-babes Nuppy: >>Rhino version of Black Snake Diamond Role on ebay right now for $15. >>Shouldn't last long. There are a few others up there that are OPP too. A few others that are Other People's... umm... what now? I'm not down with that! ____ Eb: >>an unlikely poll >>http://www.playboy.com/sex/features/indierock/ >>I must admit that I only recognized a few of these names at a glance. Yikes. Hell, I only recognize one. So I guess that: a) Chan Marshall gets my vote despite striking me as way more creepy than sexy, and... b) either Playboy is vastly more "indie" than I, or vice-versa. I don't know which way around I would prefer. >>Can't think of who else should be there...Corin Tucker? Laura >>Ballance? Sarah Shannon? That girl from Komeda? I could suggest a few, but I imagine they'd all be too old to be in the running for a Playboy... umm... anything (and some of them wouldn't be very old at all). As would at least a few of your own very valid examples, sadly. I guess Karen O of the Yeah Yeahs Yeahs is too scary... perhaps same thing goes for Corrin (although I'm more of a Carrie Brownstein guy myself). On Britta: >>I likey too, but she SMOKES. Big deduction, there. ;) Well, if the chick doesn't smoke, she probably ain't any more indie-rock than Zwan. (Not saying that's a good thing, but indie chicks smoke. Indie *people*, in fact, smoke. Hell, musicians in general smoke more than normal people... I wonder if indie ones are even worse. And I wonder why I keep wishing aloud for statistics showing the results of studies nobody's ever done or ever will.) >>And is Boss Hogg (and Jon Spencer's va-va-voom wife) still around? That reminds me... was/is the frontwoman for Brassy really Jon Spencer's sister, as some early press said? She was hot and intiguing anyhow, and her name is still cool even if it is officially "Muffin Spencer, no relation". Tom C: >>Rachel Nagy from The Detroit Cobras has kind of a butterface, Damn, I'd hoped to have read that phrase for the last time. Ah, well... >>Then there's that chick in Zwan. She was >>pretty cute on SNL a few weeks ago, but not enough to make up for Billy >>Corgan's useless whining. Corgan's entire backing band could be made up of the most adorable women in the world and it still wouldn't do the trick. Sadly, this all reminds me of internal office memos at the indie-film theatre company where I used to work, where they would try to determine which young actress represented the state-of-the-art for "primo indie-snatch" during any given year. Usually it was Rose MacGowan. Heh heh... she's on "Charmed" now. Prolly it's Zooey Deschanel or somebody these days. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 12:20:21 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: RH question >The live version of "Heaven" that's a bonus track on the >Rhino reissue of the album that amost shares a name with >the list. aaaaaa! Thank you Jeff (and Kenneth, and anyone else who replied)! No wonder I couldn't find it on any of my live tapes. I still want to know whether he'd recently read "Oscar and Lucinda" when he said that... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:26:28 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Smokin' indie-snatch Once upon a time Rex.Broome say to me -- this is the dog talkin' now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > Well, if the chick doesn't smoke, she probably ain't any more indie-rock > than Zwan. (Not saying that's a good thing, but indie chicks smoke. Indie > *people*, in fact, smoke. Hell, musicians in general smoke more than normal > people... I wonder if indie ones are even worse. And I wonder why I keep > wishing aloud for statistics showing the results of studies nobody's ever > done or ever will.) Chicks who smoke are usually better at...um, err...singing. ;) > Corgan's entire backing band could be made up of the most adorable women in > the world and it still wouldn't do the trick. A friend of mine says that he can't listen to Billy Corgan because he thinks he sounds like Eric Cartman with laryngitis. > Sadly, this all reminds me of internal office memos at the indie-film > theatre company where I used to work, where they would try to determine > which young actress represented the state-of-the-art for "primo > indie-snatch" during any given year. Usually it was Rose MacGowan. Heh > heh... she's on "Charmed" now. Prolly it's Zooey Deschanel or somebody these > days. Mmmm...Rose McGowan.... Drool! I'm surprised Parker Posey wasn't the perennial winner, though. - -- Cheers! - -g- "The flowers of intolerance and hatred are blooming kind of early this year, someone's been watering them." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:44:28 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Smokin' indie-snatch > > Sadly, this all reminds me of internal office memos at the indie-film >> theatre company where I used to work, where they would try to determine >> which young actress represented the state-of-the-art for "primo >> indie-snatch" during any given year. Usually it was Rose MacGowan. Heh >> heh... she's on "Charmed" now. Prolly it's Zooey Deschanel or somebody these >> days. > >Mmmm...Rose McGowan.... Drool! Ever seen that McGowan film "The Doom Generation"? Gotta be one of the worst films I've ever seen. McGowan is yucky, and she can't act. At all. I'll pass. >I'm surprised Parker Posey wasn't the perennial winner, though. Posey isn't so much of a "sex symbol," is she? Gosh...it's lucky that all the girls are out this afternoon, while we boys shoot the sh*t. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:12:10 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The Indie-Klingon Starlets of Japanese Soaps Glen: >>A friend of mine says that he can't listen to Billy Corgan because he thinks >>he sounds like Eric Cartman with laryngitis. Shit, that's funny. Never woulda thought of it, having encountered Corgan and Cartman in that order. But now I will. "Hey you guys... the killer in meh, is the killer in yooooouu!" >>I'm surprised Parker Posey wasn't the perennial winner, though. She was at first, but it wasn't called "indie-snatch" at that phase. Posey was locked in a yearly struggle with Lili Taylor for a few years. Then came the challengers in droves-- your Sarah Polleys, your Chloe Sevignies, your Hope Davises (Hope Davii???). Ultimately MacGowan reigned as snatch supreme, because she was more conventionally slutty (both in her roles, and, erm, with various industry folks we knew) and yet still appeared in movies with no commercial prospects at all (e.g. Greg Arraki ones). That, if I recall, is when the term was coined-- marking the moments when overdeveloped breasts and underdeveloped acting were no longer a barrier to being an indie starlet! But I'm sure she makes a fine, fine Shannon Doherty replacement. ________ Appropos to the thread a few weeks back about "what vocal impressions do you do", I've just been reminded by the Klingon-sex thread* that I often do a really good Worf when I want to bitch about someone having no honor. I mean, Worf is easy, but mine is really good. And I've just added another voice to my repertoire, one which amuses no one but myself and my wife, but we really work it: The Guy Who Interprets for Chef Sakai on Iron Chef. It's the voice and the cadence and the subject matter which always is approximately "I did my best". And then my wife imitates the "actress" on the tasting panel each week... the ones who alway look like, act like, and are voiced by the same person but never actually are the same person. What do these chicks act in, Japanese soap operas? Weird. Fuck it, never mind; it was long week. - -Rex "I think Parker Posey's still my indie-choice, though" Broome *before proofreading this phrase was "Klingon-sex *threat*". Yikes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 21:05:54 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Smokin' indie-snatch >From: Eb >Subject: Re: Smokin' indie-snatch >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:44:28 -0700 >>I'm surprised Parker Posey wasn't the perennial winner, though. > >Posey isn't so much of a "sex symbol," is she? > >Gosh...it's lucky that all the girls are out this afternoon, while we boys >shoot the sh*t. I should add that Britta Phillips, who posts to the Luna listserv, found it a compliment to be referred to as scrumptious. This after a female lister was offended by the term being used for Britta. Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:19:46 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: The Indie-Klingon Starlets of Japanese Soaps > The Guy Who Interprets for Chef Sakai on Iron Chef. > It's the voice and the cadence and the subject matter which always is > approximately "I did my best". And then my wife imitates the "actress" on > the tasting panel each week... the ones who alway look like, act like, and > are voiced by the same person but never actually are the same person. What > do these chicks act in, Japanese soap operas? Weird. > > Fuck it, never mind; it was long week. No, no that's completely normal. I've added "Kweezan!" as an interjection in my daily life...and sometimes when cooking at home I'll grab a pepper, look sulkily over my shoulder at my wife, and bite into it while nearly gagging. Flipping through an old standards book last night, I got to wondering what if the music to "Nearer, My God, to Thee" hadn't been written Lowell Mason in 1856, but Lowell George in about 1974 or so instead. I bet it would've sounded different. Michael "he was one high cowboy, that Lowell boy" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 20:22:57 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Sexist Friday Entertainment - AP TV 4/25/03 'Girls Gone Wild' Producer Faces Charges PANAMA CITY, Fla. - "Girls Gone Wild" producer Joe Francis is now facing 22 criminal charges, including filming underage girls involved in sexual activity. Francis, 30, was arraigned Thursday in Bay County Circuit Court with racketeering and conspiracy to engage in racketeering activity, which are both first-degree felonies which carry up the 30 years in prison. He also faces three counts of promoting the sexual performance of children; four counts of conspiracy to promote the sexual performance of children; two counts of using children in sexual performances; four counts of procuring persons younger than 18 for prostitution; two counts of conspiring to procure persons under 18 for prostitution; two counts of selling, distributing or offering to distribute or possessing with intent to distribute obscene material; two counts of prostitution; and one count of trafficking in hydrocodone. Many of the charges name Mantra Films Inc. and Aero Falcons LLC as co-defendants. Mantra Films produces the "Girls Gone Wild" videos, which routinely feature public nudity and sexual situations. Francis and his staff were in Panama City Beach in February, March and April to tape a Spring Break special. He was arrested April 3 on prostitution, sexual exploitation and drug trafficking charges. Some of his employees have also been charged. Francis attorney, Daniel Petrocelli, said from his office in California that the number of charges show how weak the state's case is. "What they did was take one incident and try to cobble it together to support a (racketeering) claim and its transparent," he said. "There's no racketeering involved here. The charges against Mr. Francis are reckless and irresponsible." Racketeering is when someone intentionally sets up an illegal moneymaking operation and uses the funds to support a legitimate or illegitimate business. The charges list several girls by their initials only, all younger than 18, who investigators said were filmed on March 31 engaging in sexual activity. Petrocelli said the girls identified in the charges all told the videos producers they were older than 18, some said it while being videotaped, and one or more had signed a waiver declaring themselves older than 18. > Petrocelli, who may be best known for representing Fred Goldman in > a wrongful death suit against O.J. Simpson, said Francis case is an example of city and county officials trampling on the freedom of expression. "The goal of 'Girls Gone Wild' is to capture the spontaneity of college coeds having fun on Spring Break and other times of leisure," Petrocelli said. "This is about the way young people have fun these days. It might be different than the way you and I used to have fun." Petrocelli said the prosecutor should know that Francis wasn't trafficking in hydrocodone, for example, because he was given Francis' prescription for Vicodin and a letter from his doctor. ==== And have you folks seen THIS yet? http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030424/mdf263141.jpg Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 22:59:28 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Sexist Friday > GOP Activist Admits to Child Porn > N.Va. Fundraiser Gets Probation in Case in Baltimore >http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27774-2003Apr23.html< - - Steve __________ The Constitution just sets minimums, most of the rights that you enjoy go way beyond what the Constitution requires. - Antonin Scalia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: an unlikely poll Eb wrote: > http://www.playboy.com/sex/features/indierock/ > > I must admit that I only recognized a few of these names > at a glance. Yikes. > > Can't think of who else should be there...Corin Tucker? > Laura Ballance? Sarah Shannon? That girl from Komeda? > Just a hunch, but I'd guess the list was also limited to women who were willing to be included. I would imagine this is true of any sort of simular list that Playboy would make, since including women who wish to not be associated with anything relating to Playboy could do nothing ultimately but feed the critique that Playboy is ultimately misogynist. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 08:55:10 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: You'll never walk alone > I spent part of my Easter weekend getting caught up on doing tags for > mp3s. I have one piece that I am sure somebody on this list posted. > It's a rendition of "You will never Walk Alone" made up of little > bits of other songs. Can anybody tell me where this came from? I know > it's been a while. hey scott, I think I made reference to that one. It's LMP's plunderphonics rendition. From their "Century of Song" project, (it's the song from 1945.) http://www.polyholiday.com/century/centurybox.html - -- When fighting monsters, one should be careful not to become a monster. - Frederich Nietchze ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 17:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Playing Cards http://www.gatt.org/regime/cards.html Yes, they are a bit over the top and do reflect the unwillingness to distinguish between "mere" narcissistic creeps with God complexes and outright certifiable motherfuckers, but they are also (I thought) funny. Plus, W is only the 4 of clubs, to add insult to injury. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #157 ********************************