From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #156 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, April 25 2003 Volume 12 : Number 156 Today's Subjects: ----------------- But who'd got all the tunes? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: RH question [Jeff Dwarf ] Paris [tblackman@amadeus.net] RE: memorials ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: numerous short takes ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: RH question ["Kenneth Johnson" ] re: Memorial ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Naff 70s and 80s songs [Michael R Godwin ] Black Snake Buy It Now [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: oblige [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Ninety dead tigers found at "cat rescue home" [gshell@metronet.com] Re: Ninety dead tigers found at "cat rescue home" [brian@lazerlove5.com] an unlikely poll [Eb ] Re: an unlikely poll ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: an unlikely poll ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: an unlikely poll [Tom Clark ] Re: an unlikely poll [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:37:06 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: But who'd got all the tunes? Memorializing loved ones: Ferris noteth: >>my parents have a plot in the same cemeteries as their parents and their >>parents before them. That's why I've never thought deeply about this: my parents live in (basically) the same community where they grew up; their fathers are buried locally, etc., so with all that in place it seems the right thing to keep families together, as it were. So, umm, I guess what I'm saying is I have no good insight, other than that I would look to create such a memorial in a place that meant something to the person being memorialized. ____ Quail: >>Oh my God, the yummy, yummy Borg Queen. Maybe. She was a little, err, goopy, and only really "organic" from the shoulders up, yeah? Plus she set a bad precedent for "sexy borgs", and look where that got us. Still, I can see your point. ___ Marc: >>Doesn't sound like there's nearly enough here for another disc, so I'll >>probably add those to a collection of tracks dubbed from vinyl, or some >>spoken word things. First, the collection sounds great. Second, wouldn't the "Pave the Earth" version of "Birdshead" belong on here? And third, if I were you, I would up it to three discs and include the vinyl material as mentioned, as well as all of the non-album material from Greatest Hits. Just a personal preference, but I offer the following rationales: 1) Greatest Hits is way out of print and it ain't coming back; 2) In the minds of many/most fans, the non-LP stuff on GH belongs with the b-sides that got left off it, both in terms of recording dates and the context in which we first heard it-- "Watch Your Intelligence" belonging with "Eight Miles High", etc. 3) That stuff is really the only reason to even listen to Greatest Hits, since the albums tracks sound much better in their original contexts, so who wants to really sit through them to get to the "rareties"? Whereas having all of the non-album stuff definitively together, that I'd listen to far more frequently. And like it a great deal, I do believe. Anyhow, that's what I'd do... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:49:19 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: memorials >So my question for fegdom is this: what sort of permanent-ish memorial can >you imagine for those who shun the traditional headstone, yet are not rich >enough to buy a significant piece of real estate? I like the idea of a >physical spot, like a garden or park, but that's neither necessary nor >likely within reach. I've considered things like "naming" a star but that >seems sort of crass and not terribly durable. But maybe someone can tell me >otherwise. is there a local public gardens or something he used to like to visit? Some parks here will dedicate long-lived trees for a donation to the park board, with plaque at base of tree etc. Not exactly permanent as in eternal, but an oak or sequoia will last several human spans comfortably. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:54:46 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: numerous short takes >the mongols and the huns invented the modern world, including the daily >ration pack. the scots just taught us how to dance. as a friend of mine is wont to say: "The Scots play the bagpipes and dance with their arms in the air. The Irish play the uillean pipes and dance with their hands by their sides. Us Welsh point and laugh at the silly buggers." - --- >Vague switch to Robyn-related green-ness: at the local market, the store >brand kidney beans come plainly, uncreatively labeled in two varieties: >Light Red Kidney Beans and Dark Red Kidney beans. Can't see the latter >without imagining Robyn & Stipey: "Seeeeeee-eeeee... my dark red kidney >beans!" strange factouid of the day. Black treacle is officially, in the trade, known as "green treacle". Shame it's brown. >Errr, but my guess is that the lion's share of the votes, coming from >undersexed SF geeks, would go to, like, almost human but funky-colored >dancing girls such as Star Trek's Orion Slave Girls or Star Wars's Twi'ileks >(had to google that last one, honest). Vulcans... well, okay, the busty >Vulcan chick on the current Trek is very off-putting, but Kirstie Alley's >Saavik was okay. And I'm bi enough to admit that Spock was way hot. if we're looking at Star Trek aliens here, that Borg queen could assimilate me any time. - --- > As a former PA state employee who dwelt in the teeming Metropolitan > capital > of Harrisburg, I can tell you that Senator Rick Santorum is the exact > kind > of young white male, selfish, misguided, mendacious little PRICK that > the > Republic party seems to produce in unwholesomely large numbers. always has done, I think. A lot of them turn into old WMSMMLPs. Senator Santorum is a great name, though. From Asterix, I'd guess. - --- >PS Who remembers Jimmy Melia? And Smith Must Score... they lost the replay 4-0, ISTR - --- >>>It's probably also why I get spam about helping >>>with my (US) mortgage, buying cars in the US, and about other stuff which >I >>>can't even begin to understand because it's too US-oriented. > >The ones that talk about "lasting longer"? (Looks around furtively, drops >voice to whisper) ...that's American talk for retaining an erection... nah - it's the legalese ones. It doesn't explain why I get spam in other languages though. I need a better filter... James (...and we can supply one for less than wholesale! Just click on this link...) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:56:42 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: RH question Okay Fegs - I'm sure one of youse can help here... I'm trying to track down a piece of between-song weirdness from Robyn, in which he recounts that the next song is to do with the old West, when big tent-like cathedrals would roll across the plains and people had to wait on them to arrive before they could go to church. Or something like that. Anyone any clues? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:08:10 -0700 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: RH question Once upon a time James Dignan say to me -- this is the dog talkin' now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > Okay Fegs - I'm sure one of youse can help here... I'm trying to track down > a piece of between-song weirdness from Robyn, in which he recounts that the > next song is to do with the old West, when big tent-like cathedrals would > roll across the plains and people had to wait on them to arrive before they > could go to church. Sounds familiar. Could be from _Gotta Let This Hen Out_. I haven't listened to the album in years, though, so I can't confirm. I'll pop the DVD in tonight and see if it's included there. - -- Cheers! - -g- "The flowers of intolerance and hatred are blooming kind of early this year, someone's been watering them." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 17:23:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: RH question Glen Uber wrote: > Once upon a time James Dignan say to me -- this is the > dog talkin' now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > > > Okay Fegs - I'm sure one of youse can help here... I'm > trying to track down > > a piece of between-song weirdness from Robyn, in which > he recounts that the > > next song is to do with the old West, when big > tent-like cathedrals would > > roll across the plains and people had to wait on them > to arrive before they > > could go to church. > > Sounds familiar. Could be from _Gotta Let This Hen Out_. > I haven't listened to the album in years, though, so I > can't confirm. I'll pop the DVD in tonight and see if > it's included there. The live version of "Heaven" that's a bonus track on the Rhino reissue of the album that amost shares a name with the list. ===== "Being accused of hating America by people like Ann Coulter or Laura Ingraham is like being accused of hating children by Michael Jackson or (Cardinal) Bernard Law." -- anonymous . The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:27:45 +0000 From: tblackman@amadeus.net Subject: Paris May have missed it being mentioned here already, as I've not been paying a lot of attention of late, but I've come across a gig in Paris on Thursday 8th May that doesn't seem to be reported anywhere else. It's on As far as Paul Noble goes, if it's the same bloke (I don't know!) then he is mostly know for his work as musical director/writer/producer and musician with GABRIELLE, as well as THE WARMJETS, DAVID HOLMES, NOONDAY UNDERGROUND, ALL SAINTS, BRIANA CORRIGAN (ex-BEAUTIFUL SOUTH) and OSLO (according to ). Also see Tony. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:10:43 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: memorials Thanks to everyone who made suggestions. You've given me some great ideas and I appreciate it. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:51:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: numerous short takes > > the > > Republic party seems to produce in unwholesomely large numbers. > > always has done, I think. A lot of them turn into old WMSMMLPs. Senator > Santorum is a great name, though. From Asterix, I'd guess. I can see him as Senator Assininius Maximus Santorius, an up-and- coming Roman senator who currently has the ear of Caesar. Caesar charges him with capturing that troublesome Gallic village, with the result of a menhir being dropped on Santorius with Dogmatix licking his face, and a red-faced Caesar ordering his reassignment to the German front. Well, back to reality. Jon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:41:54 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: RH question the song is Heaven - live bonus track from ryko reissue of Fegmania (I *think*...) Kenneth ************************************ "I dont consider myself a pessimist at all. I think of a pessimist as someone who is waiting for it to rain. And I feel completely soaked to the skin." ----Leonard Cohen ************************************* >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) >Reply-To: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) >To: Larry Smoe and Curly >Subject: RH question >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:56:42 +1200 > >Okay Fegs - I'm sure one of youse can help here... I'm trying to track down >a piece of between-song weirdness from Robyn, in which he recounts that the >next song is to do with the old West, when big tent-like cathedrals would >roll across the plains and people had to wait on them to arrive before they >could go to church. > >Or something like that. > >Anyone any clues? > >James > > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= > .-=-.-=-.-=-.- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance > =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time > -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 08:05:11 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Memorial http://www.lifegem.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:32:22 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Naff 70s and 80s songs On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Matt Sewell wrote: > Blimey, I couldn't have stayed up that late even if they did play Ace of > Spades! I thought it was an absolutely fantastic gig, really just so much > fun and in just about the smallest place I've seen a Robyn gig, and a > very nice pub to boot. Michael is really cheesed off that his annual visit to the Great Wen was for the glum QEH gig rather than this one! Has anyone posted any photos yet? If Paul Noble turns out to be the Paul Noble I know, I will be even more camemberted. Still, I did do a gig with Attila last year. "668 - Neighbour of the Beast" has to be the funniest album title I've heard for a long time. - - MRG n.p. Me and pals playing 'Another Girl Another Planet', Ring 'o Bells, Widcombe, 1987 ... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:46:19 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Black Snake Buy It Now http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2526213830&category=1572 FYI: Rhino version of Black Snake Diamond Role on ebay right now for $15. Shouldn't last long. There are a few others up there that are OPP too. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 17:54:00 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: oblige On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 tblackman@amadeus.net wrote: > As far as Paul Noble goes, if it's the same bloke (I don't know!) then he > is mostly know for his work as musical director/writer/producer and > musician with GABRIELLE, as well as THE WARMJETS, DAVID HOLMES, NOONDAY > UNDERGROUND, ALL SAINTS, BRIANA CORRIGAN (ex-BEAUTIFUL SOUTH) and OSLO > (according to ). Also see > The Paul Noble I know is this one (misspelt as Nobel in one of these refs:) http://www.theiceberg.com/artist/28607/eat/ http://www.on-fiction.com/Noncure/honey.htm - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:56:31 -0500 (CDT) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: Ninety dead tigers found at "cat rescue home" LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) - -- Jon Weinhart saw himself as a big cat lover who for over 35 years provided a sanctuary in Southern California, under the name of Tiger Rescue, for retired animal actors whose performing days were long gone, But California authorities Thursday held starkly different view of Weinhart's activities after discovering nearly 90 dead tigers and leopards at his home -- including 58 dead cubs stuffed into three freezers -- and piles of big cat pelts stacked in a storage barn...... http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/04/24/crime.tiger.reut/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:19:17 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Ninety dead tigers found at "cat rescue home" Realities like these make me very ill. I don't understand animal cruelity. Nuppy Quoting gshell@metronet.com: > LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) > -- Jon Weinhart saw himself as a > big cat lover who for over 35 years > provided a sanctuary in Southern > California, under the name of Tiger > Rescue, for retired animal actors > whose performing days were long > gone, > > But California authorities Thursday held > starkly different view of Weinhart's > activities after discovering nearly 90 dead > tigers and leopards at his home -- > including 58 dead cubs stuffed into three > freezers -- and piles of big cat pelts > stacked in a storage barn...... > > http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/West/04/24/crime.tiger.reut/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:05:36 -0700 From: Eb Subject: an unlikely poll http://www.playboy.com/sex/features/indierock/ I must admit that I only recognized a few of these names at a glance. Yikes. Can't think of who else should be there...Corin Tucker? Laura Ballance? Sarah Shannon? That girl from Komeda? Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:13:36 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: an unlikely poll >From: Eb >Subject: an unlikely poll >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:05:36 -0700 >http://www.playboy.com/sex/features/indierock/ > >I must admit that I only recognized a few of these names at a glance. >Yikes. > >Can't think of who else should be there...Corin Tucker? Laura >Ballance? Sarah Shannon? That girl from Komeda? I don't think one needs to be a Luna devotee like myself to wonder where Britta Phillips is. My 2 cents, Max _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:16:17 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: an unlikely poll >From: "Maximilian Lang" >Subject: Re: an unlikely poll >Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:13:36 -0400 > >>From: Eb >>Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:05:36 -0700 > >>http://www.playboy.com/sex/features/indierock/ >> >>I must admit that I only recognized a few of these names at a glance. >>Yikes. >> >>Can't think of who else should be there...Corin Tucker? Laura >>Ballance? Sarah Shannon? That girl from Komeda? >I don't think one needs to be a Luna devotee like myself to wonder where >Britta Phillips is. Some evidence: http://www.pablochang.com/gallery.asp?catid=9 _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:30:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: an unlikely poll on 4/25/03 3:16 PM, Maximilian Lang at maximlang@hotmail.com wrote: >>Eb: >>> http://www.playboy.com/sex/features/indierock/ >>> >>> I must admit that I only recognized a few of these names at a glance. >>> Yikes. >>> >>> Can't think of who else should be there...Corin Tucker? Laura >>> Ballance? Sarah Shannon? That girl from Komeda? > >> I don't think one needs to be a Luna devotee like myself to wonder where >> Britta Phillips is. > > Some evidence: > > http://www.pablochang.com/gallery.asp?catid=9 Oooh, me likey. I'll throw a couple out too. Rachel Nagy from The Detroit Cobras has kind of a butterface, but a killer package all around. Check out the cover of "Seven Easy Pieces." Then there's that chick in Zwan. She was pretty cute on SNL a few weeks ago, but not enough to make up for Billy Corgan's useless whining. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:39:30 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: an unlikely poll > >> I don't think one needs to be a Luna devotee like myself to wonder where > >> Britta Phillips is. > > > > http://www.pablochang.com/picts\gallery\00001250_lrg.jpg > >Oooh, me likey. I likey too, but she SMOKES. Big deduction, there. ;) > I'll throw a couple out too. Rachel Nagy from The Detroit >Cobras has kind of a butterface, but a killer package all around. Ugh! No thank you! >Then there's that chick in Zwan. She was >pretty cute on SNL a few weeks ago Tain't "indie rock." Oh yeah...where's Kim Shattuck? And is Boss Hogg (and Jon Spencer's va-va-voom wife) still around? Eb, still in a miserable stupor ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #156 ********************************