From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #141 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 15 2003 Volume 12 : Number 141 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Da Brooze [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #140 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] self-indulgence [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: gnatmaniax, Elephant 6 style ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Da Lips [Eric Loehr ] Talkin' Banjo-Playin' Minor-to-Major-Chord-Changin' Singer from t he Church Blues ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Talkin' Banjo-Playin' Minor-to-Major-Chord-Changin' Singer from the Church Blues [Eb ] RE: Wall of Douchbags ["FS Thomas" ] Re: gnatmaniax, Elephant 6 style [Eb ] Fwd: Polyphonic Live Webcast Tonight! 4/14/03 [steve ] Re: Game Theory [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Game Theory ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Game Theory [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Saeed Mohammad al-Sahaf, we hardly knew ye [Michael R Godwin "Yamanashi blues" (this being a weird amalgam of 12-bar and trad >Japanese >styles) Who's this by? One of my favourite artists at the mo' is The Fujii. Essentially a Japanese guitarist who plays a National Steel like Mississippi Fred McDowell (with Jap folk touches) and sings in Japanese. It sounds beautiful. He's backed by various members of the London improv scene. Weird and wonderful. Their latest album is called 'We Pray The Brooze' (geddit?!?) Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:44:39 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #140 Stewart of Canada (recently) writes: >I'd forgotten that the Proclaimers were Hibs fans. But I really should >have known, from these lines from "Cap in Hand": is it true that Hibernian is actually known as "The Hi-bees" by true believers? I've never heard them called anything but Hibs (and have actually recently seen the car plate "HIBS 1" - to which to obvious response is "Celtic 5"). James (whose local team, Caversham, is currently bottom of the national league) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 00:48:00 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: self-indulgence For those of you keeping track of such things, my website's latest upgrade finally got uploaded (uplifted? embedded? whatever). Thanks Miche. All works fine except for one jpeg (sadly, of the best of my recent paintings) which is 404ing. I'll have to investigate... James nf - nowt. It's quarter to one in the morning. Earlier, it was a very blobby looking cheap imitation UN flag (I've seen schoolkids draw better world maps) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 9:14:05 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: gnatmaniax, Elephant 6 style Natalie Jane wrote: > > ... there was little hope of the Olivia Tremor > Control getting back together. well, Circulatory System were really really really good last night at Lee's Palace. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 9:20:20 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Re: fegmaniax-digest V12 #140 james wrote: > > is it true that Hibernian is actually known as > "The Hi-bees" by true believers? yes, by both of them. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:19:33 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: The Things You Do To Further Your Career Rather disturbing stuff. Note to self: Don't ever, ever sign with Death Row Records. (Link to story: http://tinyurl.com/9hiz) Lawsuit Says Rapper Killed to Hone 'Gangsta' Image Sun Apr 13, 6:23 PM ET LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - An aspiring rap star who has been charged with murdering his roommate and eating part of her lung did so as part of his record label's plan to cultivate a "gangsta" image for him, the victim's mother charged in a lawsuit filed in Los Angeles. Antron Singleton, a rapper who goes by the stage name "Big Lurch," faces murder and torture charges after police found him staggering naked and covered in blood on a southeast Los Angeles street April 10, 2002. In a nearby apartment, police said they found the mutilated body of Tynisha Ysais, 21, with teeth marks on her face and on pieces of her lung, which had been torn from her chest. A subsequent medical examination showed Singleton had human blood and flesh in his stomach, police said when they charged the rapper. Singleton, who would be eligible for the death penalty if convicted, is still awaiting trial. In a wrongful death lawsuit filed just before the close of business on Friday in Los Angeles Superior Court, Ysais's mother, Carolyn Stinson, claimed that Singleton's record label had provided him with drugs "to encourage (him) to act out in an extreme violent manner so as to make him more marketable as a 'Gansta Rap' artist." The lawsuit named Singleton, Death Row Records, headed by rap mogul Suge Knight, and Stress Free records, and two employees as defendants. A representative of Death Row Records, now known as Tha Row, could not be immediately reached for comment on Sunday. David Chesnoff, Knight's lawyer, said he had not seen the lawsuit and could not comment. Singleton, originally from Texas, had been in Los Angeles for a few months recording a rap album prior to the death. "Part of what makes a Gansta Rap artist marketable is the fact that the artist is a current ongoing participant in violent gang activities," the lawsuit said. "Singleton met this criteria and was even more marketable because his songs were as violent as his lifestyle and included rape, murder and ended with him eating his victim's body organs." The lawsuit alleges that when Singleton used a "sharp (object) to remove body organs" from Ysais and eat them. "These acts were performed within the course and scope of his employment with the other defendants," it added. Stinson's lawyer, Winston McKesson, of Beverly Hills, could not be immediately reached for comment ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 09:05:01 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Da Brooze At 11:47 AM 4/14/2003 +0100, crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com wrote: > >"Yamanashi blues" (this being a weird amalgam of 12-bar and trad >Japanese > >styles) > >Who's this by? That would be by Hideyo Moriya of the California Guitar Trio on the album of the same name. They're three acoustic guitarists who use Fripp's "new standard tuning" and were once part of the Robert Fripp String Quintet. They're also the only "rock" act to have bought me dinner. Among other things, I raved about the Flaming Lips while they were depressed because a Tony Levin track they had appeared on lost the grammy to the Lips. My friends and I had dinner with Bert Lams of the Trio again last month in Silverlake before the King Crimson show in Los Angeles. Bert has been transcribing a number of Fripp's soundscapes for an orchestral performance in Amsterdam this summer. Weird stuff. I also learned that he was best buddies with the guy that did that "Pump Up the Jam" song back in Belgium. None of this is as interesting as Natalie making out with Bobby Schneider of the Apples, but there you go. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 12:47:01 -0400 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Da Lips At 09:05 AM 4/14/2003 -0700, Jason R. Thornton wrote: >Among other things, I raved about the Flaming Lips while they were depressed >because a Tony Levin track they had appeared on lost the grammy to the Lips. Hey, that reminds me -- did anyone else see the Lips on Letterman last week? If so, would you say their performance was representative of their albums? I'd somehow managed to never hear them before and was curious -- but I can't say I was very impressed. At least one of the guitar players was way out of tune, which would seem pretty easy to tell when you're just bashing one note/chord over and over ;-} Obviously a live situation can sound very different from the albums, but based on this performance I'm not inclined to pursue them any further. Can anybody give me any good reasons why I should? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 10:35:02 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Talkin' Banjo-Playin' Minor-to-Major-Chord-Changin' Singer from t he Church Blues John BJ: >>Does the real Apple Records now have cause to go after Apple again for >>trademark infringement?? I think they were told the last time that Apple >>wasn't going to be getting into the record business in the near future. Ancillary question: Did the band the Apples become the Apples in Stereo because of Apple Records or a pre-existing Apples band? For some reason I thought it was the former, but now that I think about it that sounds too much like what happened to (the) Verve... Natalie? _______ Eb: >>The family and friends are trying to decide on an epitaph, in recent >>days. We're limited to 22 characters, including spaces. That is pretty much criminal. Financial consideration, I presume. I think you're probably right to go as minimalist as possible, rather than trying to go as close to the limit as possible. (It's 22 characters in addition to the full name, I hope!) >>In fact, given all the exuberant talk which the subject of >>beer always generates, I idly wonder who on the list has had a >>legitimate problem with the stuff. Hell, if you're gonna have a problem, what's that point in having an illegitimate one? Actually, one reason I'm pretty sure I'd deal with the loss of a parent through booze is because I'm damned sure that if *I* died, my folks would get *wasted*. ___ Quail: >>"Post-modern deconstructivist blues" This wedged one loose from my brain... "Surrealist Woman Bues", an especially crap Steve Kilbey solo track. Although "Woman with Reason" from the same record is ace, and, of course, features both banjo playing and a direct change from a minor chord to the same major chord. (In fact, this seems to be a Church thing-- happens in "It's No Reason" as well (sans banjo, though)). - -Rex, keepin' it real, where real is defined as mentioning banjos in every post to feg... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 18:47:43 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: The old feg moment blues On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, James Dignan wrote: > "Standing in a bucket blues" (Standing? Shouting? the CD label looks confused) "Shouting in a bucket blues" by Kevin Ayers. The second verse (after Chorus 1) is the killer. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 11:38:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Talkin' Banjo-Playin' Minor-to-Major-Chord-Changin' Singer from the Church Blues > >>The family and friends are trying to decide on an epitaph, in recent >>>days. We're limited to 22 characters, including spaces. > >That is pretty much criminal. Financial consideration, I presume. Not really...he will be buried in a military cemetary (very mixed feelings about this, myself), and the layout of those things always maintain a certain uniformity and minimalism. My dad loooooved golf, and played it for years. He was right-handed in general but, for whatever reason, he played golf left-handed. He always rooted for left-hander Phil Mickelson, as a result. Made me sad that a left-hander won the Masters this weekend -- Dad missed seeing this. It also *amazes* me to learn that this was only the second time that a lefty has won one of the major tournaments? I figure a golf expert could give me a detailed explanation about how golf courses are designed to favor righties, as far as hooks, slices and ball rotation.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:27:14 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Wall of Douchbags Lovely subject line, I'll admit, but it's true. An entire pile of pages dedicated reaming bands for their group photos. Losers, unite: http://www.rockandrollconfidential.com/hall1.htm - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 19:45:55 -0400 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Wall of Douchbags "...Pages dedicated reaming..." My broken English amazes even ME sometimes. There's spell check, but rarely a successful idiot check. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf > Of FS Thomas > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 7:27 PM > To: The Oracle > Subject: Wall of Douchbags > > Lovely subject line, I'll admit, but it's true. > > An entire pile of pages dedicated reaming bands for their group photos. > > Losers, unite: http://www.rockandrollconfidential.com/hall1.htm > > -f. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:52:59 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: gnatmaniax, Elephant 6 style >Gnat: >I was hoping that my next gnatmaniax post would be something of >interest to Eb, to cheer him up a little, but alas, 'tis merely the >Apples in Stereo. Well, thanks for trying anyway. >But I am probably going to see Vic Chesnutt in a few weeks, so maybe >that will suffice. (And yes, I always spell his name right.) Well done. >I asked Robert how his collaboration with Andy Partridge was going. >He said he was "frustrated with the project," so I don't know where >that's heading. Hrm. >He said that Jeff Mangum is in Canada making music for music therapy What exactly does *that* mean? >I told him about kissing Will Cullen Hart and Scott Spillane, and, >emboldened by beer, said, "In keeping with my reputation as the >Elephant 6 floozy, can I give you a kiss?" "You're not a floozy, >you're awesome!" he exclaimed, and gave me a hug and a vigorous kiss >on the lips. Yow! :) Yowsa. And how did you manage to extract kisses from Hart and the E6 Gnome? >He smelled like baby powder. It's all in the details. The Delgados are playing tonight, but I just wasn't up for it. Haven't been in much of a concert mood lately. Though I definitely won't miss the Mull Historical Society at the end of the month. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:41:59 -0500 From: steve Subject: Fwd: Polyphonic Live Webcast Tonight! 4/14/03 Begin forwarded message: > From: The Polyphonic Spree > Date: Mon Apr 14, 2003 12:48:05 PM US/Central > Subject: Polyphonic Live Webcast Tonight! 4/14/03 > > A smile will gain you ten more years of life. > > Just a quick note to let you know The Polyphonic Spree will be web > cast live tonight from the Fox Theater on the Digital club network. > (See link below) No word on an exact time, but the DCN website should > hopefully say as the day progresses. Currently it still says TBA. So > get your friends, your enemies, your life size Pink Panther Doll that > you have been sleeping with every night since you were 5 and watch the > Spree live from the comfort of your own cottage. http://www.dcn.com/contest/schedule.jsp Looks like the show will be at 1AM Eastern Time. - - Steve __________ I for one, am convinced: I am switching my laptop to Mac OS X. And best of all, you don't have to be ashamed to go to a Linux guru meeting with Mac OS X, because it's just a UNIX with a very nice GUI." - Moshe Bar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:24:57 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Game Theory Does anyone have Game Theory's Lolita Nation? My wife loves that album and seeing as how it is out of print I thought I would go fishing for it. I have plenty of concerts to trade for it. Thanks, Max _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 21:45:37 -0500 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Game Theory Quoting Maximilian Lang : > Does anyone have Game Theory's Lolita Nation? Ha! You fell for it! It's a well known fact that _Lolita Nation_ is an entirely mythical recording, a music geek's collection of in-jokes grown out of hand. I mean, c'mon - who's *really* going to title a "song" "Watch Who You're Calling Space Garbage, Meteor Mouth" - or worse yet, the song title that begins with "All Clockwork and No Bodily Fluids Makes Hal a Dull Metal Humbert" and ends about 200 seemingly random characters later? What your wife probably heard was a bootleg recording put together by one E. Broome entirely on his keyboard (wait, no - it was R. Broome on his banjo), just to see if anyone would fall for the joke. Just goes to show - rock critics are the most gullible fools you'd ever hope to find... - --Jeff, whose review site has just been updated as of April 1 (no foolin'!)...and who, uh, does have a copy of _LN_... J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Empire is incompatible with democracy. Democracy is founded on the :: rule of law, empire on the rule of force. Democracy is a system of :: self-determination, empire a system of military conquest. :: --Jonathan Schell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:54:45 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Game Theory >From: "Maximilian Lang" >Reply-To: "Maximilian Lang" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Game Theory >Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 22:24:57 -0400 I asked: >Does anyone have Game Theory's Lolita Nation? My wife loves that album and >seeing as how it is out of print I thought I would go fishing for it. I >have plenty of concerts to trade for it. Got a copy lined up. Damn Flyers, Max _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 23:17:24 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Game Theory On Monday, April 14, 2003, at 10:45 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > I mean, c'mon - who's *really* going to title a "song" "Watch Who > You're Calling Space Garbage, Meteor Mouth" - or worse yet, the song > title > that begins with "All Clockwork and No Bodily Fluids Makes Hal a Dull > Metal > Humbert" and ends about 200 seemingly random characters later? Sounds like perfectly acceptable Frank Zappa titles to me! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:44:31 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Saeed Mohammad al-Sahaf, we hardly knew ye On Thu, 10 Apr 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Loved that guy. He reminded me of the dictator from "Bananas"-- "From now > on... everyone under the age of seventeen... will be... seventeen!" (Or > something like that-- it's been a while since I've seen any of the early, > funny ones**.) "From now on, the official language will be Swedish, and everyone will change their underpants twice an hour. And in order to check whether this law is being enforced, underpants will be worn _outside_ trousers". During the interview where Woody, speaking English, is translated into English (but with a funny accent), I actually fell off my seat laughing in the cinema. Those were the days, before the crap introspective stuff took over. - - Mike "Doors Si!, Zeppelin Non!" Godwin n.p. Magic Band live at Camber Sands from the Radio 3 'Mixing it' website ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #141 ********************************