From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #123 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 31 2003 Volume 12 : Number 123 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Kansan said "You know they refused Jesus, too"/I said "You ain't him!" ["] RE: A$$ Ponies ["da9ve stovall" ] That desperate, bitter ol' Internet ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Drummer relaxes and waits between shows... ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: A$$ Ponies ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: Chris Difford [brian@lazerlove5.com] Re: Demon voice/Demon seed [Glen Uber ] Re: Good band with a bad name? ["Rob" ] Re: A$$ Ponies [Ken Weingold ] Naming the Band ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: That desperate, bitter ol' Internet [Eb ] RSG STP ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: RSG STP ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: Demon voice/Demon seed [Eb ] Re: Demon voice/Demon seed [Glen Uber ] Operation Octopussy ["Mike Wells" ] [none] ["If I Were Mad" ] Re: Operation Octopussy [Glen Uber ] Certified Angus Beef ["The Mammal Brain" ] Re: your mail [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Demon voice/Demon seed [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: Naming the Band ["Bachman, Michael" ] digest slaw ["ross taylor" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:07:34 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Kansan said "You know they refused Jesus, too"/I said "You ain't him!" Michael K.: >>Yeah! And Maura Tierney and Elizabeth Pena mentioned on the same day! >>Two of my favorite actresses to rest my eyes upon. And there they are again, in my mailbox on Monday. Sweet. >>And Emma Thompson! I don't know what it is about her, I've just always >>thought she is fabulously attractive. Yeah, right there with you. The mutual presence of her & Maura even made "Primary Colours" tolerable in parts. And her and Winslet in... ummm... it was "Sense & Sensibility", yeah? _____ Sebastian: >>Hmm, I like punk *and* country *and* "More Than A Feeling", "Keep on >>Loving You", "Dust In The Wind". The latter are guilty pleasures, for sure, but >>I still like to listen to them once in a while ... nostalgia is funny that >>way. Yes it is. And that arena rock stuff was precisely what I *didn't* hear when I was a kid, and when I caught up with it later, it sounded pretty bad. But I did apparently hear, and thus now have those warm fuzzies for some of, that soft country BS. But everyone likes "real" country, right? Maybe not as much as everybody likes the Cruise/Roberts axis, but... _____ Jeff D: > oh good grief. He thinks Jesus was born at Christmas. >>Deep down, he probably thinks that he's Jesus. Yo, have you ever know anyone who think's they're Jesus? 'Cuz I have, and it's an even more messed up scene than you'd imagine. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 2003 10:19:42 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: A$$ Ponies >Ass Ponies I >never heard, but if the Afghan Whigs' cover of Mt. Superlove is any >indication, I would like them a lot as well. That'd be "Mr. Superlove",... but you probably meant that, anyway. And I don't care what anybody else says, their _Electric Rock Music_ album is perfect. If you like sorta-REM-ish power-pop, get it. You can probably find it used for two or three bucks without much problem. Their more recent _Some Stupid With a Flare Gun_ and _Lohio_ are quite good, too. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:35:03 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: That desperate, bitter ol' Internet Eb's on a tear. "Get over your love of Miyazaki but hark and listen to endless Kansan blather"... and then... >>Well, of course, because everyone on this list tries so hard to >>appear "quirky" and "eccentric" and "offbeat," etc. in their tastes. Yup, once again, we are poseurs, to a one. And once again I must explain why: to get chicks. No way could we actually *enjoy* anything but non-quirky non-eccentric non-offbeat wholesomeness. Our claims that we do must reflect some kind of communal sociopathology. >>There are also very few subscribers who give a damn about any cinema >>outside the "tech geek" realm. The results of a poll comparing the acting skills >>of Roberts and "Gollum" are a foregone conclusion. Actually I see a lot of discussion of "art films" hereabouts alongside the "tech geek" stuff. I guess you're pissed that the cinematic discussion here doesn't encompass many mainstream romantic comedies. There I can only speak for myself: they're boring and you know what's going to happen. Which is true of tech geek films but at least they usually have a bit of imaginative design to keep you occupied. >>(see how desperate the Internet is to dismiss Roberts? ya see?) I've only seen one person "desperate" to make any point regarding her. As to the Internet's personal hangups, last I checked it hadn't evolved to the point of sentience. ____ The question on everyone's lips: >> >> What does smoe stand for (as in smoe.org)? >>I'd be tempted to guess that it's a variation on smof. Which reminds me, I've just discovered that Santa Monica actually has a SMURRF- the Santa Monica Urban Runoff Reclamation... umm, something. It's right at the base of the pier, so you could arrange to meet your date by the SMURRF if you were so inclined. Rex "please alert me if I don't seem quirky enough so I can work on it ever so much harder" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:42:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Kansan said "You know they refused Jesus, too"/I said "You ain't him!" Rex.Broome wrote: > > Yo, have you ever know anyone who think's they're > Jesus? No, but I did know someone who *knew* they were Hitler, and that was a bad scene. He was incredibly skilled at computer troubleshooting and technical support, yet you had to put up with historical screeds about "How I invaded Poland" and "I probably shouldn't have done that Stalingrad thing" at the end of every query. He was last seen banned from every internet service ever for repeatedly posting biographical articles on "himself", mostly typed in from the Encyclopedia Britannica, to soc.religion.judaism. I think they got him under copyright violation. What I find weirdest about Kansan is not his obvious delusions, but the fact that people do more than ignore them. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:30:20 -0600 (CST) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: Kansan said "You know they refused Jesus, too"/I said "You ain't him!" On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Yo, have you ever know anyone who think's they're Jesus? 'Cuz I have, and > it's an even more messed up scene than you'd imagine. If I ever met Jesus I think I would ask him to get me pregnant, as a sorta' pay back for something I might have done wrong. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:53:57 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: shellscript Hey Greg -- Jesus loves you and all, but he totally wouldn't do you. You're not his type. Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:57:35 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Drummer relaxes and waits between shows... At 05:48 PM 3/28/2003 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: > >>the only thing Jerry > >>could come up with, being a drummer, was "Island of Men," which may well > >>be the single worst band-name I've ever heard. > >Hoo boy. You may be right. Is there a story behind that name? There'd >better be. Cause otherwise... I mean... hmmmm... I wish there were. I suspect Marotta must be stuck in some "tribal drumming male bonding" mindset to come up with a name like that. I did check out http://www.islandofmen.com for them, to see if it was already taken. It is, and I'm sure you can guess by what. > >>Lucy Liu and Salma Hayek should top any list. > >Mehhh. Can't get past the Ally McBeal thing in the first case and any number >of flat performances in the latter (plus she just seems so young and that >weirds me out). I'm not really impressed by her acting at all, or just about any of the roles she's chosen. She is going to be in the new Tarantino flick, though. She doesn't strike me as "too young" looking by any means. Heck, she is a few months older than me, and I'm no spring rooster. > More than a few hotties in Hong Kong cinema are more my >physical type than Liu. I was sticking with Hollywoodians, because of the previous subject line. Gotta admit, however, I've long had a crush on Faye Wong from the movie "Chungking Express." Speaking of Hollywood, I finally went to the Hollywood Amoeba Records this weekend. Holy crap! That place is enormous. Oh, and I saw a vintage Fender bass with a $14,000 price tag at the Hollywood Guitar Center. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:12:27 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Demon voice/Demon seed Michael/.../hat: >>fronted by this like 4' 11" woman who alternately screeches and sings in >>that growly "demon" voice that 13 year old boys with acne and mullets think >>is totally cool. My friend Michael (who rarely wears hats of any kind) once told me of seeing a band called Cup (or Bowl?) of Mung, which seemed to be a serious death metal band until they started talking between the songs using the same "demon" voice. They would have full coversations about what they were going to play next in that mode. Sounded funny, but I'm fine with having heard about it without actually hearing it. ________ Bad Name, Good Band: In many ways I am hard pressed to think of any "good" band names. The best is something abstract enough that it fairly quickly loses its original connotations and comes to evoke only the sound of the band. If you step back from it, seriously, "U2" is perhaps the worst band name ever, but nobody who ever says thinks of the original lame pun, do they? Well, okay, I do, but mostly I'm still kinda pissed that one of my favorite bands turned out to be named "My Bloody Valentine" and I don't even get very much music by them as a consolation prize. "Great Pop Things" once rewrote the early '90's Britpop feuds thusly: "A war over who had the most crap name, Blur or Oasis". And speaking of feuding bands with bad names, the name "Dandy Warhols" is really hard to get past, and what's worse, as much as I love the sound of that band, their often flip, jokey lyrics are hard to take, and I don't think I'd notice them nearly as much if they didn't have a flip, jokey name. Same thing for Brian Jonestown Massacre. - -Rex "not that my bands haven't had sucky names" Broome ------------------------------ Date: 31 Mar 2003 11:30:30 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: A$$ Ponies >Ass Ponies I >never heard, but if the Afghan Whigs' cover of Mt. Superlove is any >indication, I would like them a lot as well. That'd be "Mr. Superlove",... but you probably meant that, anyway. And I don't care what anybody else says, their _Electric Rock Music_ album is perfect. If you like sorta-REM-ish power-pop, get it. You can probably find it used for two or three bucks without much problem. Their more recent _Some Stupid With a Flare Gun_ and _Lohio_ are quite good, too. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:35:52 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Chris Difford Hey Marcy! Thanks for that bit of info. I had no idea he was even coming out with a solo album. I'm a big squeeze fan and I know there are at least a few more on this list. I ordered mine today. Can't wait to hear it! I see there is finally a Luxor on ebay. 1st one. I wonder what it will go for. Nuppy Quoting Marcy Tanter : > Chris Difford's solo album, _I didn't get here_, is really, really, > really > good. If you're a Squeeze fan, you'll love it, if you're on the fence > > about his lyric writing, you'll love it. I think Eb would give it a 7 > or > 8, but I could be wrong....! I've been playing this over and over--it's > > very autobiographical (most of his work is) and the music was written by > > Francis Dunnery. The music isn't 100% original--you can tell that he's > > heard a little band called Les Beatles--but it complements the lyrics > beautifully. The harmonies are gorgeous--I think the woman's name is > Dorie > Jackson and she's got a great voice. If you want something new, I > recommend this one. > > End of advertizement. I have to go watch 6 feet under now and see if > Brenda's big news is that she's had Nate's baby....!! > > Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 11:36:37 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Demon voice/Demon seed Once upon a time Rex.Broome say to me -- this is the dog talkin' now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > -Rex "not that my bands haven't had sucky names" Broome Without exception, all my bands' names have sucked. The band I was in my senior year of high school was called the Knights of Daze. After that (I think this is the right order), came the aforementioned Russell and the Love Okies, Escuela (named after the street where the keyboardist lived), Groovy Decay (we once played a gig with an additional guitarist and substitute drummer under the name Groovy Decoy), The Mondo Greens, Mr. Malaprop, The Will Scarlet Band (the music was just as bad, kids), Babelfish, Dwindling Amphibians, the dead beats and Cornholier Than Thou. Full disclosure: I didn't come up with Knights, Russell, dead beats, Scarlet, Babelfish, or Amphibians. The first three names were decided on by a democratic vote of band members and the other three were already together and performing when I joined. I'm currently putting together a band with fellow feg and everyone's favorite rubber shark, Mark Gloster, and we've come up with some hilarious names so far. My current faves are Alternative Zymurgy Source, Lesbian Truffles, The Popesicles, the Rubbing Alcoholix and Chewbacca Jones, Wookie Soul Brother. How does one name a band that correctly captures the essence and emotion of a band? Is there any such think as a "good" band name? Some are more clever than others, sure, but really, are there any great band names? - -- Cheers! - -g- "Half the world's starving and have the world bloats; half the world sits on the other and gloats." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 20:39:00 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Re: Good band with a bad name? On 31 Mar 2003 at 7:14, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Eb wrote: > > > > Mull Historical Society > > but they're (or at least one of them is) from Mull ... > And surely it's a better name than their old one which was Westernised. Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:59:34 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: A$$ Ponies On Mon, Mar 31, 2003, da9ve stovall wrote: > >Ass Ponies I never heard, but if the Afghan Whigs' cover of Mt. > >Superlove is any indication, I would like them a lot as well. > > That'd be "Mr. Superlove",... but you probably meant that, anyway. Yeah, typo. The Afghan Whigs' What Jail Is Like EP is one of my favorite albums to listen to on the way to work. > And I don't care what anybody else says, their _Electric Rock > Music_ album is perfect. If you like sorta-REM-ish power-pop, > get it. You can probably find it used for two or three bucks > without much problem. Their more recent _Some Stupid With a > Flare Gun_ and _Lohio_ are quite good, too. I'll have to pick some up, especially at that price. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:08:03 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Naming the Band Glen: >>I didn't come up with Knights, Russell, dead beats, >>Scarlet, Babelfish, or Amphibians. The first three names were decided on by >>a democratic vote of band members That can screw ya right there. Best to name it before you finish the lineup so the hired hands don't get no say. >>and the other three were already together and performing when I joined. And there's not a damn thing you can do about that, however painful it may be. My own sad disclosures: - --Montage Blue (high school) (My fault; I suggested a frech-style noun/adjective combo "like montage, and blue" and nobody ever bothered to change it) - --The Sound (high school, cover band, democratic vote; nobody had ever heard of the "real" UK band the Sound) - --The Complete Unknowns (cover band, because we were "like the Rolling Stones", har har. One gig and we needed a name.) - --There Goes Bill (named before I joined) - --The Carolinas (democratic vote; named after one of our own songs, kind of , and again, not the Carolinas with an AMG entry, although we existed simultaneously) - --The Astonishing Panda Inferno (executive decision; one-off "electronic duo" project) - --(unpronounceable symbol reflecting above name, essentially combo of World Wildlife Foundation and Flammable Materials pictograms) (this was how I labeled my "solo" demos since there is already a band named "Rex") - --Rainland (much despised by Feg but I'm rolling with it for my current project for fear that something worse will be suggested and gain traction) >>How does one name a band that correctly captures the essence and emotion of >>a band? Obviously, I dunno Weird thing is most bands have to have a name before they get to have an essence or emotion. >>Is there any such think as a "good" band name? Nope. >>Some are more clever than others, sure, but really, are there any great band >>names? Nope. - -Rex "ask Natalie about some of the ones that didn't make the cut" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:03:03 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: That desperate, bitter ol' Internet Rex snitted: >Yup, once again, we are poseurs, to a one. And once again I must explain >why: to get chicks. No way could we actually *enjoy* anything but >non-quirky non-eccentric non-offbeat wholesomeness. Our claims that we do >must reflect some kind of communal sociopathology. > >I guess you're pissed that the cinematic discussion here >doesn't encompass many mainstream romantic comedies. Debate intelligently, please. Thanks. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 12:29:44 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RSG STP MRG: >>The reputation of the original Byrds plummeted here in the UK after a >>spectacularly untogether performance on Ready Steady Go. Hmmm, I thought Ready Steady Go was all bands "performing" to playback. >>I wonder if it was Crosby who fouled that up? Ahh, when you factor that possibility in, maybe it was lip-synching and spectacularly untogether all at the same time. If Crosby's "STP" guitar strap didn't refer to the automotive/oil product, what did it mean? It was a little early for it to be a Stone Temple Pilots shout-out. - -Rex "In 1965 the Byrds first visited Great Britain. I was twelve. You weren't even born yet. That situation continued." -Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:27:38 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: RSG STP > If Crosby's "STP" guitar strap didn't refer to the > automotive/oil product, > what did it mean? Why, it's the Stars That Play (with Laughing Sam's Dice): http://www.addictions.org/stpmda.html +brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:07:23 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Demon voice/Demon seed >How does one name a band that correctly captures the essence and emotion of >a band? Is there any such think as a "good" band name? Some are more clever >than others, sure, but really, are there any great band names? Boy, I'm glad that my perspective isn't this bleak. I think there are loads of good/great band names, both within and without my own musical tastes. I won't attempt to make any comprehensive list, but OK, how about bands whom I've grabbed albums by in the last year or so, whose names I like? Squeeze...Mudhoney...Oasis...Sonic Youth...Midnight Oil...Luna...Pavement...Tuxedomoon...Cracker...Nine Inch Nails...Superchunk...Henry Cow...Lambchop...the Buzzcocks...Stereolab...Spiritualized...the Residents...Firewater...Air... Random thought: AC/DC. Now there is a perfect band name. And OK, I'll withdraw Television from my bad-name list. It temporarily slipped my mind that "Television" represents Verlaine's initials. Wanna see something REALLY scary? http://www.starshrine.com/GoalHQs/HQ2.jpg Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 13:14:38 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Demon voice/Demon seed Once upon a time Eb say to me -- this is the dog talkin' now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > I won't attempt to make any comprehensive list, but OK, how about > bands whom I've grabbed albums by in the last year or so, whose names > I like? Squeeze...Mudhoney...Oasis...Sonic Youth...Midnight > Oil...Luna...Pavement...Tuxedomoon...Cracker...Nine Inch > Nails...Superchunk...Henry Cow...Lambchop...the > Buzzcocks...Stereolab...Spiritualized...the > Residents...Firewater...Air... This is so subjective. Some of these are as bad or as silly as some of those on your previous "bad" name list. I suppose it's a matter of personal taste. I notice, however, that you lean toward monosyllabic, or succinct polysyllabic, names. I, on the other hand, like really long, weird names. > Random thought: AC/DC. Now there is a perfect band name. It's a good one. > Wanna see something REALLY scary? http://www.starshrine.com/GoalHQs/HQ2.jpg Dude! Warn a person! I thought it was gonna be blood and guts SCARY, not minions of hell SCARY! - -- Cheers! - -g- "The line between us is so thin, I might as well be you. Everywhere I've ever been, I know you're going, too." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 15:28:00 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Operation Octopussy http://tinyurl.com/8jdd Personally I can't wait to hear them say "and now over to Christiane Amonpour in Iraq, embedded with the 101st Airborne on Operation Goodhead." The mind boggles. Michael "the Blofeld one is kind of funny" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 00:31:33 +0300 From: "If I Were Mad" Subject: [none] Dog bites man, not news. Man bites dog, news. Hitler rapes Jesus, not news. Jesus rapes Hitler. Now, thats news. Pythia, intoduction to follow _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:01:34 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Operation Octopussy Once upon a time Mike Wells say to me -- this is the dog talkin' now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > http://tinyurl.com/8jdd > > Personally I can't wait to hear them say "and now over to Christiane Amonpour > in Iraq, embedded with the 101st Airborne on Operation Goodhead." The mind > boggles. From the article: >In general, the British don't use "Operation Free Iraq." Their version of that >name is "Operation Telic," featuring a little-known word derived from the Greek >that means "aim," "purpose" or "ultimate end." "Ultimate end"? Like "Final Solution"? - -- Cheers! - -g- "Work is the curse of the drinking class." - --Oscar Wilde ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:17:22 -0800 From: "The Mammal Brain" Subject: Certified Angus Beef how if we all pitch in a sawbuck to award him an all-expenses-paid vacation in hong kong? . as much as the natural reaction might be to rejoice, i think it portends even darker days ahead. what's the line from the violent femmes song -- something about "the world we're living in" sucks ass? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:19:41 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: your mail On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, If I Were Mad wrote: > Hitler rapes Jesus, not news. Jesus rapes Hitler. Now, thats news. Okay, this is obviously Greg Shell in disguise - I mean the 'religious figure/anal rape" obsession is here in all its, uh, glory. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the sea is the night asleep in the daytime:: __Robert Desnos__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 16:27:31 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Demon voice/Demon seed On Mon, 31 Mar 2003, Eb wrote: > I won't attempt to make any comprehensive list, but OK, how about > bands whom I've grabbed albums by in the last year or so, whose names > I like? Squeeze...Mudhoney These raise the question of referentiality: does it make a difference if you know that Squeeze is (I think) named after a lame pseudo-VU album? Or that Mudhoney is from a Russ Meyer film? > ...Oasis...Sonic Youth Oasis is bland - so quite the fitting name... But "Sonic Youth"? I've always thought that's an incredibly stupid name, if only because (like Beach Boys, but w/o the fame) it has such a limited shelf life - hell, I don't think it ever really applied to them. ...Midnight > Oil...Luna...Pavement...Tuxedomoon Yep - like all those. >...Cracker If it didn't mean "redneck," and if their music didn't intentionally dumb itself down (something I hate), and if Lowery didn't change his image from smart-ass to just plain ass, well, I might like it... (Can you tell I'm not a Cracker fan?) >...Nine Inch Nails Which reminds me: I've always been deliriously fond of an earlier name of the Velvet Udnerground: The Falling Spikes. >...Superchunk This, along with Dinosaur Jr., is a rare example of a band name forced to change by an existing act actually improving the name. Cuz "Chunk" and "Dinosaur" are stoopid names, while Superchunk is pretty good and Dinosaur Jr. is, well, better than Dinosaur. ...Henry Cow...Lambchop...the > Buzzcocks...Stereolab...Spiritualized...the > Residents...Firewater...Air... Stereolab is one of the best and most fitting band names around. Oh - and Nothing Painted Blue is great, both on its own merits and in its referentiality. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Solipsism is its own reward:: __Crow T. Robot__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:07:24 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Naming the Band I was always fond of The Bubble Puppy, a one hit wonder band famous for Hot Smoke and Sassafras from the late 60's. Some might slam that name, but it seems to go well with the title of their only hit single. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 14:35:30 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Demon voice/Demon seed >These raise the question of referentiality: does it make a difference if >you know that Squeeze is (I think) named after a lame pseudo-VU album? Regardless of the VU reference, I just like the name. Thank heavens they didn't get stuck with "UK Squeeze." > Or that Mudhoney is from a Russ Meyer film? It's not such a good name by general criteria, but it fits *that* band beautifully. Regardless of the Meyer connection. Eb, loving that Geraldo got booted out of the action ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 17:42:20 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: digest slaw Good band, bad name: Procol Harum. I mean, the only thing more pretentious than a Latin name is a misspelled Latin name. But we can blame this on their first manager, Guy Stevens, who also came up with "Spooky Tooth" and "Mott the Hoople." Plus late 60s band names in general. Leven Helm jokes that The Band was originally going to be The Chocolate Overcoat. I disagree w/ some others of Eb's -- Buffalo Springfield was a kind of bulldozer, & so less silly than other Psychedelic Monikers. If it's funny, like Echo & the Bunnymen, I like it. I'd offer-- Siouxsie and the Banshees Oingo Boingo The Pixies. - --- I think Rex mentioned Janeane Garofalo. I'd been a little secretive about these feelings, but, yeah. - --- David Crosby-- The whole Monterey DVD package is worth seeing. If you have the audio Rhino box, you know most of the story about the Byrds set, but it's fun to see the body language proving that Crosby, soon to be referenced only by a horse and the song "Artificial Energy," thinks he is now leader of the band. And he said he was asked to leave for "political reasons." I still like the fast, rock version of "Renaissance Fair" they start w/, before falling apart. But the DVD has a big song by Country Joe & the Fish, the whole Jimmi Plays Monterey video (man, the brutally casual way he shows the can of lighter fluid to the audience, like he's in a bar fight & letting his opponant know he's got a weapon), the whole Otis set, tons of extra crowd shots, etc. etc. - --- Bye, Ross O.-- This depresses me 1) because of the possible loss of 3, um, sources of posting, or flavors of posting I'd liked; 2) If I'm being spoofed about Bayard & Fric (I think?), then my insecure sense of list reality; 3) Loss of Ross. The more Rosses, the better. - --- Finally got some Mo Tucker, Life in Exile After Abdication. Two fav songs so far: "Spam Again" & "Work." And love hearing (I think) Jad Fair say "Don't play dumb/ and don't act smart." Great album. Ross Taylor "speed kills" Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #123 ********************************