From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #117 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 28 2003 Volume 12 : Number 117 Today's Subjects: ----------------- How can you tell when the drum riser is level? ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: wonderful merchandise [The Great Quail ] Re: How can you tell when the drum riser is level? [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jef] Re: Re: Donna Fargo [Miles Goosens ] Kansan, omniscient god of insanity [Eb ] Re: Re: Donna Fargo [Eb ] Re: How can you tell when the drum riser is level? [Glen Uber ] "None. They've got machines for that now!" [Glen Uber ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Shock and Awe having subsided, Fegmania explodes [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Emoticons [Michael R Godwin ] Re: reap [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:13:56 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: How can you tell when the drum riser is level? Miles: >>Or the Kendalls, or John Conlee... Oh yeah. Dad's band opened for the Kendalls. And TG Shephard. That was later, though. >>He'd frequently play gigs on a flatbed trailer in the parking lot of Hill's >>Department Store in Bluefield Man. The closest Hill's was in LaVale, MD. I considered it a distant paradise of retail, dwarfing such pissant WV concerns as Heck's and the local, shriveled husk of a GC Murphy's. Next classic story: Rex, age 8, enrages local religious folks by appearing to drink entire bottle of Ancient Age on stage at Fountain Fireman's Bluegrass Festival. This is all starting to get a little weird. ______ gSs's Amp Shack: >>i use the only combo that should be available on earth, the JC-120. Damn. I keep hearing that's the ideal Rickenbacker rig. I used to play my 12-string and Tele deluxe alternately through a '70's Fender Twin while the OTHER guitarist in my band had the JC, but he played an Ibanez (occasionally a Strat). Only recently have I discovered we had it backwards. Did I mention I got that Tele back? It makes me rock so much harder. ___ Stewart: >>so I should stop working on my potty-humour sarcastic musical then? Wait, which one are you, Matt or Trey? _____ Me, then Glen: >>>> But a lotta people wanted the strangle that drummer at one time or another, >>Definitely been there, definitely wanted to do that. I believe it... not only was he the drummer, he was also the Marching & Concert Band Teacher at my high school, and he made at least as many enemies in that capacity... His other classic onstage "please kick my drunken ass" statement: "FUCK SKYNYRD!!!" Interesting about you & your brother. My own brother never took up music, and I never (seriously) took up basketball, so we'll never know what kind of competitive dicks we could've been to each other. On the other hand my dad and I have become a lot closer through playing music together. (Whereas I think he and my brother got mildly estranged when Dad coached his basketball team). Ahh, family. _____ Jeff D: >>That's just cuz y'all (and I) have never had the desire to fuck >>an emaciated horse. Well. That pretty much says it all doesn't it? About the human condition and stuff, I mean. _____ Chris: >>I just found two articles compare-and-contrasting embeds and unilaterals Hey, that makes them sound like the dominant and oppressed factions in a particularly shit allegorical sci-fi short story, dunnit? _____ James: >>go for "Red" and "Thrak". Those seem to be the prevailing suggestions. I heard "Thrak" when it came out and found it mildly off-putting at the time; I've heard pieces of "Red" more recently and was fairly intrigued. My current musical collaborator (keys/producer/engineer/everything without strings) is really into Crimson so I've been hearing more of them lately. I'm being openminded so he doesn't freak out when I uncork the Barrett, Parsons, Modern Lovers, Hitchcock (etc. etc. you all know the kind of shit I like by now.) - -Rex "what about a fucking twelve-string on this tune?" Broome PS I sure did use a lot of profanity in that post, huh? Fuck all! np: more goddamn war ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:16:11 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Please report any suspicious looking wallies On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey on ebony sand, a dream at 3/26/03 12:50 PM -0600 in a mist of gray: >On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Michael E. Kupietz, future husband of Dr. Melanie >Rosenberg, wrote: > >> For a very funny example of how my upbringing resembled a Phillip Roth >> novel, check out . I >>will >> never let my mother live this one down. > >This is wonderful. > >So'd you call her? Nah, you know, I never did. You should have heard my mom's reaction when I told her I'd posted her message on the internet, though. :-) Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:36:30 -0500 From: noam tchotchke Subject: Re: Shock and Awe having subsided, Fegmania explodes one time at band camp, Glen Uber said: > > 'Nother good imaginary band. I don't believe I've ever seen the verb "to > > strollop" before. But I like it. > >I do too. I say we do our best to use it as often as possible in everyday >conversation with the hope of having it find its way into the OED. how cogno-intellectual! woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 18:48:49 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Emoticon 2003, registration this way On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Miles Goosens on ebony sand, a dream at 3/27/03 10:29 AM -0600 in a mist of gray: >At 06:18 PM 3/25/2003 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >>For middle American kids of my age, yiddish was synonymous with "standup >>comedy language". I had no idea it was an indicator of Jewishness. >>Actually, "King of the Hill" has done some pretty entertaining (to me, >>anyway) riffs on that phenomenon. > >Did you ever see the SNL skit where Jon Lovitz is a comedian whose >punchlines are almost entirely in Yiddish? That actually has happened to me... we used to go to the Jewish Alps for the high holy days - it frequently involved see bad comedians. I remember one guy who had this long bit about going to the Bahamas, and he kept mispronouncing it "Bah-HAY-mas", and I had to be told later that the humor of the whole thing relied on the fact that "Bah-HAY-ma" is how you say "cow" in Yiddish. >It took the combination of (years later) Melissa reading through a Jewish >cookbook and (even more years later) a SEINFELD episode before I realized >the true horror of one of Lovitz' jokes: "That's the last time that I get >gribness from a moyle!" That reminds me of that old joke about the guy who buys a wallet from a moyle, for $300. "Sure, it's expensive, but when you rub it it turns into a suitcase." Mike On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony K L N W on ebony sand, a dream at 3/27/03 3:18 PM +0000 in a mist of gray: >James: >>how do you punctuate around emoticons? > >Now heres a great high geek question! My answer is probobly a wonderful >guide on how -not- to do it;-P Remember, Im the person who who thinks >ellipses at the end of sentences should be done this way: ... . > >If you put punctuation at the the end of an emoticon it interferes with the >visual impact of the emoticon. Example ;-). (This combo could mean "wink, >smile, period" or "Im winking, smiling at you with a bit of spinach hanging >from my chin.") What I've always wondered is, how do you include an emoticon at the end of a parenthetical aside? (You all may have noticed, I love my parenthetical asides. :-) ) I've never found a satisfactory way to do it. And there's no way I'm giving up my parenthetical asides. On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Stewart C. Russell on ebony sand, a dream at 3/27/03 11:33 AM -0500 in a mist of gray: >Matt Sewell wrote: >> >> And let's not forget the Welsh "ll", as in Llan >> fair (pron. Chlan vyer) > >It's a different sound; the Welsh 'll' is the voiceless alveolar lateral >fricative. It's an unvoiced L sound. > >Say 'antler'; the L in the middle is pretty close. A Welsh friend pronounced 'll' somewhere between an L, and H, and an F. He explained it by saying 'Floyd' was an anglicized mispronunciation of the proper Welsh pronunciation of 'Lloyd'. On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Miles Goosens on ebony sand, a dream at 3/27/03 10:37 AM -0600 in a mist of gray: >At 12:06 AM 3/26/2003 +0000, rosso@videotron.ca wrote: >>On 25 Mar 2003 at 20:36, Tom Clark wrote: >> >>> Five popups and countless cookies later... >> >>Mozilla! > >History shows again and again how Java points out the folly of man. Miles gets my award for best off-kilter reference. On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony FS Thomas on ebony sand, a dream at 3/27/03 12:01 PM -0500 in a mist of gray: >> Or that he's a Republican mole >> working to make liberals look stupid, if you buy that explanation. But >> screwmoore.com, while mildly amusing, is just as stupid and obnoxious. > >With shining beacons like Moore, Daschle, Jackson, and Sharpton, the DNC >can't *help* but shoot itself in the other foot. Yeah! What we lefties need is more shining beacons like George W. Bush. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:04:20 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Donna Fargo On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Miles Goosens on ebony sand, a dream at 3/27/03 2:58 PM -0600 in a mist of gray: >>> Then again, Julia Roberts' appeal has always eluded me. >> >>You and me both, brother. > >Woo hoo, that's two of us! Count me three, man. Her and Sarah Jessica Parker. They don't fool me for a second. Both "butterfaces", as a certain obnoxious shock jock calls them. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:11:17 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Donna Fargo >On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Miles Goosens on ebony >sand, a dream at 3/27/03 2:58 PM -0600 in a mist of gray: >>>> Then again, Julia Roberts' appeal has always eluded me. >>> >>>You and me both, brother. >> >>Woo hoo, that's two of us! > >Count me three, man. Her and Sarah Jessica Parker. They don't fool me for a >second. Both "butterfaces", as a certain obnoxious shock jock calls them. Who in the world is nuts for Julia Roberts based on her *body*? Her eyes and smile are the root of all her charisma. What's more, outside of a push-up bra in Erin Brockovich and a few mini-skirts in Pretty Woman, there's scarcely a role in her career which exploited her body. Her no-nudity clause is legendary.... Oh, and you want a "butterface"? How about Jennifer Garner? I'm still trying to figure out *that* sex appeal.... Hilary Swank gets slagged for being "horsey," yet somehow her buffed-up twin Garner considered a major bombshell. Whatever.... Eb, ever wondering why the Internet is so pathologically fond of beating up on Julia Roberts and Gwynneth Paltrow ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:16:28 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: wonderful merchandise Not sure who wrote this: >> Just today Hans >> Blix is saying there's no evidence they exist. If they aren't found, Mike >> will have been correct--the fiction of the wmd was created as an excuse to >> drop bombs and kill innocents. Sigh. Why, oh why, oh why? This is the stuff that drives me nuts. You really think that's it, don't you? All the US wants to do is bomb innocent civilians! This sort of "argument" is an embarrassment and a detriment to real anti-war debate. At least make an argument for imperialism, or paranoia, or arrogant meddling! But do you really think that's all the US government wants to do? Drop bombs and kill people? This is ridiculous. James: > According to the Russian government, > Bush phoned Putin, who said he'd investigated UN rumours that Russian firms > had supplied arms to Iraq - but the only overseas buyers for those > particular arms had been (through middlemen) the CIA. I may be misunderstanding you, but this doesn't make any sense. The CIA bought Soviet gear and gave it to the Iraqis? That's a bit hard to swallow. Bear in mind that Russia has been a *major* arms dealer to Iraq, is a principal recipient of oil-for-food contracts, and was caught red-handed violating sanctions after the Gulf War. > actually, the person who first raised the issue of this breaching the > Geneva convention was Iraq's envoy to the UN, who asked all sides to desist > from the practice. Well, other than the rank hypocrisy of the Iraqi government caring about anything like the Geneva convention, I don't believe this is true. As soon as the images of the POWs was aired, the US began crying, "foul!" - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:26:38 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: How can you tell when the drum riser is level? Hey! You never answered the question in the subject line. But that's easy: if the riser's tilted to the drummer's left, the snare gets faster - if it's tilted to the drummer's right, the hi-hat speeds up. Alternately, you can stand behind the drummer and see which way the ass-sweat is spreading. ..Jeff "very bad: after the drums, bass solo!" J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 00:33:22 -0600 (CST) From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Re: Donna Fargo Eb: >Eb, ever wondering why the Internet is so pathologically fond of >beating up on Julia Roberts and Gwynneth Paltrow If you know this, you've spent much more time than me reading various sites that might have opinions on such. All I know is what I read on my mailing lists, 80% of which are music-oriented, and I'd say the Julia for/against is 50/50, and Gwynneth is far more favorably looked upon than Ms. Roberts. >Who in the world is nuts for Julia Roberts based on her *body*? Her >eyes and smile are the root of all her charisma. They just frighten me -- it's like her face is on a hinge and her head is going to flip back like a SOUTH PARK Canadian. Her brother Eric is supposed to be the psycho, but Julia's the one who gives me the willies. If she could actually act, I probably wouldn't be as harsh about her looks, but she's pretty close to a zero in both departments for me. And her voice was pretty much made for silent movies. Ever listen to her "act" when you've walked away from the television? She wouldn't have worked a day in radio. >Oh, and you want a "butterface"? How about Jennifer Garner? I'm still >trying to figure out *that* sex appeal.... Hilary Swank gets slagged >for being "horsey," yet somehow her buffed-up twin Garner considered >a major bombshell. Whatever.... Somehow I've missed all this Swank slagging (must be in the same places as the rampant Julia/Gwynneth hatred you mentioned), but I plead consistency on this issue -- I think they're both bombshells. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:31:31 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Kansan, omniscient god of insanity [someone wrote:] >I'm sure this must have some relevance to Our Lady Heidi Klum. > >http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,6196294%255E3 >102,00.html When the Entities inspire anyone to ask me a question, there is always a mystical reason behind it and a profound lesson to be learned. The above link is about a news story from Cairns, Queensland, Australia. A five-year old girl fought a snake and saved her kitten, Sooty. One always needs to check the coordinates of any place where such unlikely phenomena occur. Cairns is close to the intersection of the E. 146th Meridian and the S. 17th Parallel. By now it should be common knowledge that the number 17 is the characteristic number of Horus, the God of the New Age, the New World Order. 146 = 2 * 73 The number 73 is prime and its significance is as follows: *** Day 73 of the year is March 14. On March 14, 2000, Bill Clinton was exactly twice as old in number of days as Empress Heidi. *** 2 * 73 = 146. Day 146 is May 26. On May 26, 2002, Angel Heidi arrived with her mother at a small Italian village south of Naples to shoot her Pirelli calendar photographs. The two of them strolled around in the village and Heidi wrote later in her www.RTL.de column that the local people were looking at them as though they were extraterrestrials. This is understandable, since the Pirelli company paid for the construction of the San Siro stadium in Milan. San Siro, or Saint Syrus, is an obvious reference to Sirius, the Dog Star. *** 3 * 73 = 219. Day 219 is August 7, one day after August 6, the anniversary of the Hiroshima atomic explosion and the feast of the Transfiguration of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and one day before August 8, the birthday of Theophano, the beautiful ice cream temptress I used to be infatuated with in the 1980s. This Theophano is an avatar of Holy Roman Empress Theophano, the wife of Otto II and mother of Otto III. Her mother-in-law was Empress Adalheidis ("Heidi"), the wife of Otto I. *** 4 * 73 = 292. Day 292 is October 19. On October 19, 2002, Our Lady Heidi Klum met Anthony Kiedis of the Red Hot Chili Peppers in Los Angeles. *** 5 * 73 = 365. Day 365 is December 31, the last day of the year. In Germany this day is known as Sylvester Day. Pope Sylvester II was an advisor to the Empresses Adalheidis and Theophano and the tutor of Otto III. On December 31, 2002, Anthony Kiedis and Heidi Klum had dinner together in public for the first time, at a Las Vegas hotel restaurant, and Kiedis told a reporter that they were not getting married any time soon. They were just friends. On the 17th of January, 2003, the feast day of St. Anthony, the German magazine Bild publicized photographs of Anthony Kiedis with some other woman, proving that he had betrayed Our Lady. Finally, the snake that the little girl fought is described as a "python", the name of the monster that the God Apollo, the twin brother of the Goddess Artemis or Diana, killed at Delphi. The kitten's name, Sooty, has two Os in it, reminiscent of the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in New York and the Twin Belltowers of the Dom, the Cathedral of Cologne, Heidi's home town. The letter Y in "Sooty", known as the letter of Pythagoras, is a reminder of the Pentagon building, the other building attacked on September 11, 2001. (The five-pointed star is known as the Star of Pythagoras.) The Pythagorean Theorem is known to Freemasons as the 47th proposition of Euclid. Therefore, the name "Sooty" is a reminder of "4711", the company that produces authentic Eau de Cologne, a company that Heidi's father used to work for. Heidi's family seem to descend from South Tyrol, close to the intersection of the N. 47th Parallel and the E. 11th Meridian. It was close to that intersection that Oetzi the Iceman was discovered on September 19, 1991. The San Siro stadium in Milan was opened on September 19, 1926, the same year that Marilyn Monroe was born (June 1, 1926). Empress Heidi was born on June 1, 1973, exactly 47 years after Marilyn. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:36:04 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Re: Donna Fargo >Miles: >They just frighten me -- it's like her face is on a hinge and her >head is going to flip back like a SOUTH PARK Canadian. Her brother >Eric is supposed to be the psycho, but Julia's the one who gives me >the willies. Oh, come on. >If she could actually act, I probably wouldn't be as harsh about her >looks, but she's pretty close to a zero in both departments for me. Oh, come on. > And her voice was pretty much made for silent movies. Oh, come on. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 22:58:06 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: How can you tell when the drum riser is level? Once upon a time somebody say to me -- this is Rex.Broome talking now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > Miles: >>> Or the Kendalls, or John Conlee... > > Oh yeah. Dad's band opened for the Kendalls. And TG Shephard. That was > later, though. Ah, yes. I forgot about that dime-store Conway Twitty wannabe. Man, the production on that guy's records was slicker than snot on a tile floor. > This is all starting to get a little weird. No kidding. Most of these names were exorcised from my psyche after many years of therapy. Thanks a lot! > I believe it... not only was he the drummer, he was also the Marching & > Concert Band Teacher at my high school, and he made at least as many enemies > in that capacity... Yikes! > His other classic onstage "please kick my drunken ass" statement: "FUCK > SKYNYRD!!!" Dude, that rules! I've gotta remember that next time I'm at a show and someone calls out "Free Bird!" > Interesting about you & your brother. My own brother never took up music, > and I never (seriously) took up basketball, so we'll never know what kind of > competitive dicks we could've been to each other. Probably a good thing. My brother just pissed me off again tonight over something music-related. If only I had been taller, I could have taken up basketball instead. ;) Oh well, I lettered in football and he didn't. Neener, neener, neener! :P > On the other hand my dad > and I have become a lot closer through playing music together. (Whereas I > think he and my brother got mildly estranged when Dad coached his basketball > team). Ahh, family. Yeah, most of my family are musically inclined: My dad started playing guitar when he was 9, my mom is a very good singer and her father once auditioned to be a guitarist for the Lawrence Welk Orchestra. In addition, I have several uncles, aunts and cousins who sing and play various instruments. Sadly, I never really got to play much with my dad. He showed me 3 or 4 guitar chords to get me started playing and then turned me loose. Just as I was getting good, he had a stroke and lost the use of his left arm for awhile. His ability to play guitar disappeared almost completely and he hasn't played in at least 15 years. It's too bad, too: He's got a sweet 1958 Telecaster that he bought brand new. I think it has been shut in its case for at least 10 years. In fact, I might be the last person to have played it. :( My mom's brother, Randy, is an incredible guitarist who was a tremendous inspiration to and influence on me. He and I, along with my brother, once put together a one-off band for my cousin's wedding. We called ourselves "Russell and the Love Okies". None of us is named Russell, but we definitely come from Okie stock, so it was partly true. Ironically enough, the only one of my family I've played with on a regular basis is my brother. Blood is thicker than drumheads, and all that... - -- Cheers! - -g- "The flowers of intolerance and hatred are blooming kind of early this year, someone's been watering them." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:00:24 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: Donna Fargo Once upon a time somebody say to me -- this is Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat talking now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > Count me three, man. Her and Sarah Jessica Parker. They don't fool me for a > second. Both "butterfaces", as a certain obnoxious shock jock calls them. Angelina Jolie is a member of the "Butterface" Society as well. - -- Cheers! - -g- "The flowers of intolerance and hatred are blooming kind of early this year, someone's been watering them." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:06:05 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: "None. They've got machines for that now!" Once upon a time somebody say to me -- this is Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey talking now -- what is your conceptual continuity? > Hey! You never answered the question in the subject line. My favorite drummer jokes: Q: Why did the drummer leave his sticks on the dashboard of his car? A: So he could park in the handicapped spaces. Q: How can you tell a drummer's knocking at the door? A: The knocks speed up and he comes in early. Q: Who do drummers hang out with? A: Musicians? Q: What do you call a drummer who breaks up with his girlfriend? A: Homeless. Q: How can you tell if a drummer has been in your house? A: He's still there. Q: What are a drummer's last words? A: "Hey guys, let's do one of my songs!" - -- Cheers! - -g- "The flowers of intolerance and hatred are blooming kind of early this year, someone's been watering them." --Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 19:15:27 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Morse rabbit in the balkans Rex opined and queried (in that order): >>>Im the person who who thinks >>>ellipses at the end of sentences should be done this way: ... . > >I like that, actually. Evocative of Morse Code. Must be two letters... >anyone here know what it means? S E re-country in the 70s, whatever happened to Eddie Rabbitt? >(Actually, a not-very-fun-at-all parlor game would involve tracing the >chains of causation forward from WWI to how many wars of the last >century...it seems it never truly ended, in fact.) I remember hearing a historian on the radio, when asked about the causes of the (late 1990s) Balkans conflicts, starting with "Well, a lot of it dates back to Emperor Justinian, who..." oh, and Tom asked: >Is it the weekend yet? yes ;) James PS - Susan Sarandon... now there's a thought... James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 23:19:41 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Morse rabbit in the balkans >re-country in the 70s, whatever happened to Eddie Rabbitt? Reap. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 07:27:15 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Thora Hird (so there go my plans for an alternative publication dedicated to her. I was going to call it Thorazine.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:17:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Shock and Awe having subsided, Fegmania explodes - --On Donnerstag, 27. Mdrz 2003 14:38 Uhr -0800 Glen Uber wrote: >> the quote everyone remembers is "You just played your last tune, drummer >> boy!" > > That's an awesome line. Almost as good as a Troggs' outtake on which the > producer muttered, "Fuckin' drummer. I'll shit him!" > >> But a lotta people wanted the strangle that drummer at one time or >> another, > > Definitely been there, definitely wanted to do that. > > My brother is an outstanding drummer, but he and I just can't play > together because he doesn't like being told when and how to play, least > of all by his older brother. I bet this has been discussed before, but one of my most recent acquisitions is a set of three Byrds CDs (the bunch for just 15 $!), namely Younger Than Yesterday, Notorious Byrd Brothers and Sweetheart Of The Rodeo. Anyway, for Notorious "unlisted on the sleeve is a rehearsal outtake which captures comically vitriolic arguments among the band", as allmusic puts it. The argument mostly revolves around the drummer... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:50:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Emoticons On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, K L N W wrote: > One, punctuation, is based on abstract signs that supposidly(tell that > to your unconsious)have no purely visual meaning, their meaning is in > what they signify, not in what they look like. While emoticons are the > opposite. They are what they look like within a set of styalized > conventions, like secular hiroglyphics. I don't think they are hieroglyphics, which are already one stage (or even two stages) removed from pictograms (or whatever they are called). Gosh, this is more complex than I thought. See: http://webperso.iut.univ-paris8.fr/~rosmord/Intro/node4.html The 'picture writing' hieroglyphs are called 'ideograms' - though even this isn't straightforward, as the picture of a writing slate doesn't mean 'writing slate', it means 'writer'; There are also alphabetic hieroglyphs called 'phonetic signs'; http://members.aol.com/egyptnew/hiero.html And there are some things called 'determinatives' which you bung at the end of the word to tell people what sort of word it was ... Anyway, I reckon that emoticons are ideograms. - - MRG n.p. Tom Tom Club "Wordy Rappinghood" ("words of comfort, words of peace, words to make the fighting cease") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 09:08:41 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: reap At 07:27 AM 3/28/2003 -0500, Stewart C. Russell wrote: >Thora Hird > >(so there go my plans for an alternative publication dedicated to her. I >was going to call it Thorazine.) Thora Birch lives on, so you can still live the dream. later, Miles ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #117 ********************************