From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #111 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 26 2003 Volume 12 : Number 111 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Rickenbackers... ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Rickenbacker Quest(ion) ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" <] Re: For his next trick, Kansan explains Keanu ["Michael E. Kupietz, weari] Re: Please report any suspicious looking wallies ["Michael E. Kupietz, we] Bupkas... ["Rex.Broome" ] Mischpoche [Jill Brand ] Re: Green sticky spawn of the stars ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a point] Heh heh ["Velvet And In Onions" ] Terror on the seas ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Heh heh [Tom Clark ] Re: Heh heh [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: Bupkas... ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" ] Re: Nice to know someone is still refunct, anyway ["Matt Sewell" ] normal service may never be resumed [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] 0% Robyn, 100% Kosher [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Spirited Away goes (relatively) wide [steve ] Fish and politics [Barbara Soutar ] Re: normal service may never be resumed [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] RE: CNN and Aaron Brown (no fish) ["Timothy Reed" ] Re: Fwd: Schiavo untergebenster Great new oppurtunity [Sebastian Hagedorn] Re: CNN and Aaron Brown (no fish) [Christopher Gross ] Schlemiel, schlimazel, let's call the whole thing off ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: Please report any suspicious looking wallies [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffr] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:36:03 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Re: Rickenbackers... Mike S: >>I have made the mental & financial decision to purch a >>Rick guitar. I know some of them are 3/4 size and all >>that, but I am not certain which. I have a couple of 'em. The most common 3/4 size one's the Lennon "signature" model, if memory serves. Don't have that one. My 12-string is a model no longer manufactured (610-12 solid body; looks short but isn't) and my 6-string is a maple 330 with black hardware, and I don't think they do that no more neither. Are you in the market for a 12-string (many people just say Rickenbacker as if 12-string is implied)? If so, don't underestimate how much extra time & effort it takes to string those puppies-- much longer than a standard 12-string even when you've been doing it for years. Me, I prefer the 330 aesthetically; folks generally like the body type favored by their guitar heroes. Generally speaking there's not much difference in the sound between the 330 & the 360; the latter is wired for stereo. Ehhh. If you're feeling brave, try e-bay. Especially if you can find one offered by a large pawnshop-type concern. I've had surprisingly good luck in finding exactly what I want in great shape for cheap. Oooh, guitar-tech nerdery. Do I get to start asking for amp recommendations now? - -Rex, who has had people ask him if the "R" on the tailpiece to his guitar is some kind of custom monogram ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:34:56 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Rickenbacker Quest(ion) I wouldn't go with a 3/4 size model unless there was a very compelling reason to. I've got pretty small hands but I've never seen that as a factor - - you'll become facile on whatever it is you get, if you love it. In fact, one of the best guitarists I've ever met has MUCH smaller hands than I do, and at 15 she was already a better guitarist than I am today. On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Sebastian Hagedorn on ebony sand, a dream at 3/26/03 12:36 AM +0100 in a mist of gray: >-- Mike Swedene is rumored to have mumbled on >Dienstag, 25. Mdrz 2003 11:07 Uhr -0800 regarding Rickenbacker Quest(ion): > >> I have made the mental & financial decision to purch a >> Rick guitar. > >A very wise decision! It's also my dream guitar, along with the Gibson ES >335. > >> I know some of them are 3/4 size and all >> that, but I am not certain which. >> >> Any recomendations? >> Any Help? > > >A friend of mine has had two of them, a 6-string 360 and a 12-string 330. >Meanwhile he's sold the 12-string. I very much prefer the 360, both its >look and its sound. Personally I think it's *got* to be black, just like >the one Peter Buck has. > >I haven't heard of those 3/4 size models. Why would you want to choose one >of those?? At least with other instruments 3/4 sizes are for kids, not for >adults ... > >Good luck, Sebastian >-- >Sebastian Hagedorn >Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany >http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ > >"Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock - -- ======== This is a piece by Peter Fruendlich heard on NPR. All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gun, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend it. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor bound to that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they see it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is good that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, "We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace," but not amusing for someone who commands an army to say that. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:56:02 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: For his next trick, Kansan explains Keanu When he was in office, both George Bush and Barbara Bush were diagnosed with graves Disease within about two years of each other. The odds of a pair of people unrelated by blood both contracting this rare autoimmune disease within 2 years are very long and have been put as low as 1 in 3,000,000. At about the same time, their dog, Millie, became ill with what was thought to be either Graves Disease or canine Lupus. George Bush used to be the head of a spy agency, the CIA, in the '70s. In the seventies there was a popular TV show about spies. It was called "Mission: Impossible". Two of the actors starring in "Mission: Impossible" were Peter Graves and Peter Lupus. But this thing beats that by a country mile. In the On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Eb on ebony sand, a dream at 3/25/03 3:48 PM -0800 in a mist of gray: > Keanu Reeves: A Severe Nuke > > It seems that Our Lady Heidi Klum was not around for the >Oscars this past Sunday. I have not seen any photographs of hers >there in the various celebrity photo databases. [etc.] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:40:44 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Please report any suspicious looking wallies On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Eb on ebony sand, a dream at 3/25/03 3:44 PM -0800 in a mist of gray: >> This is a piece by Peter Fruendlich heard on NPR. [snip] >This is waaay too long for a sigfile, dude. Sorry. Couldn't help it. I guess I can at least remove it from my plinth@ account at this point so as not to clog up the digests. MK (w/a PH) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:18:03 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Bupkas... Jeffrey FF: >>Verlaine did contribute a cover of the Kris Kristofferson song "The Hawk" >>to last year's Kristofferson tribute CD _Don't Let the Bastards Get You >>Down_ - sounds like, well, Tom Verlaine. Oh yeah, that's right. Need to hear that. His first vocal performance in about a decade, huh? Odd choice. He also had some stuff on the "Big Love" soundtrack alongside Tom Waits and a bunch of Fat Possum artists... see what happens when CDNow takes your wish list with it into the void? >>And I think I read that his first solo CD was just reissued as well. Yeah, sort of-- they used the "wrong" mix and may be re-re-issuing it as a result. All of which would be weird if it hadn't been Collector's Choice doing the reissue. ____ Mike EK w/aPH >> I found a lot of Yiddish words which >>infiltrated my upbringing and never registered as a foreign language, some >>of which are fairly widely used: nudnik, bupkas, Bupkas... am I the only goy who always thought, at a young age, that this was a polite euphemism for "butt-kiss"? No, it doesn't make sense: "You ain't gonna get butt-kiss"... but that's what I thought was being said. Noted non-goys the Beastie Boys certainly took it one step further on Paul's Boutique when they said you'd get "limp Dick Butkus". Or something like that. Anyhow, my half-Jewish wife set me straight and included footnotes on the "Bupkas" song from the Dick Van Dyke Show. 'Sokay, though, I always have to remind her which Holy Day is for what. For middle American kids of my age, yiddish was synonymous with "standup comedy language". I had no idea it was an indicator of Jewishness. Actually, "King of the Hill" has done some pretty entertaining (to me, anyway) riffs on that phenomenon. - -Rex, narrowly avoiding deployment of his "Dick Butkus tried to kill my dad's drummer" story ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:39:59 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Mischpoche Jill, the magical German Jew, jumps into action to help the pointy head and the Koelner figure it all out. In Yiddish, "Mischpoche" (which in my Wahrig Deutsches Woerterbuch was the alternative spelling to "Mischpoke," a word I have never once heard in German) means your family, your larger kin group as in "Last night we had the whole mischpoche over for knaidlach and knishes. Oy, what a mess that was to clean up." Michael, as for the similarities between German and Yiddish, Yiddish would probably be considered a dialect of German, although the further east it was spoken, the more elements of Russian/slavic languages it took on. I can understand a lot of Yiddish when I hear it, especially in music, but I can't speak it. German Jews did not speak Yiddish because they mostly wanted to blend in, so my mother and her family spoke German instead. Look how far that got them in 1938. Anyway, I'm one of few Jews that I know who learned much of her Yiddish through German. Anyway, if you go to Google and type in "mischspoche," you'll get a lot of sites to wander through. Jill, taking five minutes away from screaming about the new imperialism ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 17:58:25 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Green sticky spawn of the stars On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Michael Wells on ebony sand, a dream at 3/25/03 6:37 PM -0600 in a mist of gray: >Bloody hell. Alright, who left the portal to the last curved rim of space >open again? It might have been an accident. Something like this happened to me once. I went into an Italian restaurant and ordered pasta and an antipasta at the same time. Never do that. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:14:28 -0500 From: "Velvet And In Onions" Subject: Heh heh http://titaniumcounter.com/temp/emergency/ _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 23:25:37 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Terror on the seas http://www.piete.com/wow.htm _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:36:23 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Heh heh on 3/25/03 8:14 PM, Velvet And In Onions at bnupp@hotmail.com wrote: > http://titaniumcounter.com/temp/emergency/ Five popups and countless cookies later... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 00:06:06 +0000 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Heh heh On 25 Mar 2003 at 20:36, Tom Clark wrote: > Five popups and countless cookies later... Mozilla! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:33:02 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Bupkas... On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Rex.Broome on ebony sand, a dream at 3/25/03 6:18 PM -0800 in a mist of gray: >For middle American kids of my age, yiddish was synonymous with "standup >comedy language". I had no idea it was an indicator of Jewishness. >Actually, "King of the Hill" has done some pretty entertaining (to me, >anyway) riffs on that phenomenon. Yeah! It also turned up in Mad Magazine all the time - those old reprints of the '50s comics they used to do used the word "fershlugginer" all the time. I never even knew it was Yiddish until an older relative heard me use it and told me. Hey, you wanna hear something funny? I always used to say that George Costanza's parents on Seinfeld were exactly like my grandparents. The mannerisms, the way they always shout at each other just to talk. So I was at a family meeting a few years ago, and somehow Seinfeld came up, and get this, my grandfather says, "Yeah, he used to always hang around at the shop when he was a teenager" (My mother's side of the family owned an aluminum siding factory, universally referred to as 'the shop', and my grandparents ran the office) "his parents were good friends of ours." Ok, I'm not saying the characters on Seinfeld were based directly on my grandparents, but, man, definitely on the same circle of people. Jill: Thanks for an interesting and informative post. Seeing it spelled as 'mischspoche' instead of 'meschpoke' I recognize it. Need the 'ch' to indicate that throaty, uh... is there a name in English for that Germanic and Hebrew 'ch' sound? Or have we hit one of the near boundaries of English expression? Hey, wasn't I supposed to unsubscribe from this list so I didn't spend so much tim eon email? This is what I get for drinking at work. MK (w/a PH) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:29:38 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Terror on the seas Maximilian Lang wrote: > http://www.piete.com/wow.htm I specifically said I wanted SHARKS with laser beams. That's a frickin' dolphin, you frickin' imbecile. Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:09:27 +0000 From: "Matt Sewell" Subject: Re: Nice to know someone is still refunct, anyway It's worth pointing out that worth is one of my favourite worths... er... I mean words, and I thought it worth mentioning that I wondered whether Tom meant it's not worth claiming the prize for the most uses of the word worth or that it's not worth swearing off liquid lunches... neither are worth it, I'd say.... Cheers William Worthworth >From: Tom Clark > >on 3/25/03 2:06 PM, Timothy Reed at treed@cpr.com wrote: > > > And I claim my prize for most uses of the word 'worth' in a single > > posting. > > > > Tim > > /swearing off liquid lunches for real this time > >It's not worth it. > >-tc - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8 you can filter it out ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:53:55 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Heh heh >Velvet And In Onions wrote: > > http://titaniumcounter.com/temp/emergency/ sooo last week, old boy. If you didn't get it from the original mywebpages.comcast.net site (or better yet, iidb.org), you're nowhere. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:11:46 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: normal service may never be resumed Eb channeled the diembodied voice of Kansan: > The number 17 is the characteristic number of Horus, the God >of the New Age, the New World Order. The most memorable role >Keanu has played is Neo in "The Matrix". "Neo" is the Greek root >for "new" and also an anagram for "Eon", or "Aeon", the Greek >word for "Age": it's an ill omen when your goldfish commits suicide... "Neo" is an anagram of "One" - the name of a song recorded by U2 and Brian Eno. Zounds! "Eno" is also an anagram of "Neo". Eno was collaborator with John Cale on the album "Wrong way up" and Cale was born on... wait for it... December 5! On that album, Cale sings of "Selling shells back to the Arabs, shells they never had". This ties in with the theory that Coalition troops will plant evidence of weapons in Iraq that the Iraqis never had! Most importantly though: > Angel Heidi was in Miami, Florida, on Wednesday, March 19, >when the second Iraq war started. But... becuase of different timezones, in much of the world the war started on March 20th. And March 20th is (drumroll please) Carl Palmer's birthday! Aiieeeee!!! James PS - Bill and Ted's excellent adventure was more memorable. PPS - I never knew George W Bush was pregnant. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2003 01:11:58 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: 0% Robyn, 100% Kosher >Looking for how to spell schlimazel, I found a lot of Yiddish words which >infiltrated my upbringing and never registered as a foreign language, some >of which are fairly widely used: nudnik, bupkas, chutzpah, shmooze, >fershlugginer, klutz, kvetch, maven, schlep, schmuck, mensch, tchotchke, >tuches. weirdly, most of these are fairly common in this part of NZ too. I recognise nine of those terms, and I'd add schmutter, schnoz, schlenter, and schnook to the list. (Then again, Dunedin's got a fairly large and historically long Jewish pedigree - founding fathers such as the Hallenstein family saw to that. My beloved Alice's grandfather was a Rosenbrock. And this city provided the world's greatest ever Jewish Rugby player - Josh Kronfeld). James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:36:54 -0600 From: steve Subject: Spirited Away goes (relatively) wide Cancel your plans to see The Core on Friday. It's 6 months late, but Disney is re-releasing Spirited Away on about 800 screens. It should be in mainstream theaters, so check your local listings. - - Steve __________ Pat Robertson's resignation this month as president of the Christian Coalition confirmed the ascendance of a new leader of the religious right in America: George W. Bush. - Dana Milbank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 05:57:39 -0800 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Fish and politics Hello all, I too would like to say that it's nice to see Kay back here. Just got back from a most wonderful trip to Hawaii where I swam in warm waters with tropical fish, some of which were as colourful as butterflies. Couldn't believe my eyes. And it appears that I did not gain 10 pounds from eating vast quantities of papaya and pineapple! Yay! On the negative side, I was glued to the TV set while in my hotel room watching the war begin. CNN was just a frustrating experience to watch, no analysis of any thoughtful kind. I don't know if anyone has heard that Connie Chung's show has ended on CNN, but the news was announced on a Canadian website: cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS. Also there are worthy articles to read at this site: http://truthout.org/. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:09:00 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: normal service may never be resumed Quoting James Dignan : > But... becuase of different timezones, in much of the world the war > started > on March 20th. And March 20th is (drumroll please) Carl Palmer's > birthday! That should be (drumroll followed by spastic hitting of 700 different pieces of percussion after which Emerson comes in and plays out of tempo, while Lake bellows pseudo-profundities like a wounded cow). ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:01:01 -0600 From: steve Subject: Fwd: Schiavo untergebenster Great new oppurtunity OK, word mavens. What's untergebenster? (Not to mention oppurtunity). - - Steve Begin forwarded message: > From: klsschiavo45@lycos.com > Date: Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:51:33 AM US/Central > To: schiavo@attbi.com > Subject: Schiavo untergebenster Great new oppurtunity > > > > > > > > > > Looking for a better return? > > We Have The Answer > > Get Started Now! > > __________ I was in my car on Thursday, when all this was beginning, listening to Ari Fleischer on the radio. Listen, Josef Goebbels would have been proud of him! - Stanley I. Kutler ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:10:40 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: Heh heh Oops! Sorry. Quoting Tom Clark : > on 3/25/03 8:14 PM, Velvet And In Onions at bnupp@hotmail.com wrote: > > > http://titaniumcounter.com/temp/emergency/ > > Five popups and countless cookies later... > > -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:20:53 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: CNN and Aaron Brown (no fish) Fear not: I am not going into politics! This is just a sidebar: > On the negative side, I was glued to the TV set while in my hotel room > watching the war begin. CNN was just a frustrating experience to watch, > no analysis of any thoughtful kind. I find that a problem with most TV journalism. But of all the CNN personalities, I think the best is definitely the oft-bemused Aaron Brown, the night-time anchor. He's obviously intelligent, self-aware, honest in his feelings, occasionally ironic, a bit cynical, yet refreshingly idealistic about his duties. His late-night conversations with General Clark have been very engaging, I think; and above all, I appreciate the simple level of honest reflection Brown brings to his job. His delivery is hard to pin down - -- a bit self-deprecating, he's genuinely polite, but usually not afraid to ask provocative questions. More than any other anchor I've seen, Brown seems aware of not only events, but of his role within them, and he gives this real thought, not just knee-jerk commentary. I enjoy the way he "thinks out loud," and I especially appreciate that his delivery is personal and immediate, free from the usual anchorman pomposity and melodramatics. In many ways I feel that he's the first truly "postmodern" news anchor, and I mean this in a good way. (Sorry for resorting to the p-word.) I think CNN's Kevin Sites is a great field reporter, by the way. But Miles O'Brian (Star Trek fans beware!) is too bloodthirsty and eager, and I really, really have trouble taking Paula Zahn seriously. >I don't know if anyone has heard > that Connie Chung's show has ended on CNN We can only thank God for that. By the way -- Ted Koppel. What the *fuck...?* Is this guy living out "greatest generation" fantasies or *what?* - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:31:47 -0500 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: CNN and Aaron Brown (no fish) In his boys-department soldier costume, he reminds me of that disasterous (for him, anyway) photo of Mike Dukakis in a tank, wearing this *enormous* helmet and looking like a total dork. Tim > By the way -- Ted Koppel. What the *fuck...?* Is this guy > living out "greatest generation" fantasies or *what?* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:33:18 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Fwd: Schiavo untergebenster Great new oppurtunity - --On Mittwoch, 26. Mdrz 2003 9:01 Uhr -0600 steve wrote: > OK, word mavens. What's untergebenster? (Not to mention > oppurtunity). That's German. The word makes no sense in the context, but what do you expect? ;-) It's a very formal word that's not commonly used any more. I can't think of a good translation right now, but it was used in letters: "Ihr untergebenster Diener" That would be "Your most humble servant" in English, I guess. So humble may actually be an OK translation. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn PGP key ID: 0x4D105B45 Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: CNN and Aaron Brown (no fish) On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, The Great Quail wrote: > O'Brian (Star Trek fans beware!) is too bloodthirsty and eager, and I > really, really have trouble taking Paula Zahn seriously. I'd agree with that and add that Paula Zahn is the most *irritating* of the major news anchors, in my opinion. (Though that might change if I watched more Fox News.) She talks too much when introducing the field reporters (it's mildly amusing to watch them trying to conceal their impatience) and talks over them too often. She also seems to have a gift for slightly misunderstanding what the reporters say. For example, a few days ago one embedded reporter said that an Iraqi mortar barrage *hit* about 100 meters from his vehicle; Paula misunderstood him to say that the Iraqis fired *from* 100 m away, and while the reporter repeated this part of the story a couple of times, Paula never caught on. Unimportant, but grating. Last night I caught a segment on BBC World News where they were interviewing Newt Gingrich! Where the hell did they dig him up? It was like a bad flashback to the mid-90s. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:27:20 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Schlemiel, schlimazel, let's call the whole thing off >The schlemiel is the active >disseminator of bad luck, and the schlimazel its passive victim. Most of my Yiddish knowledge comes, alas, from Leo Rosten's "The Joys of Yiddish" and not from my family, but I understood a "schlemiel" simply to be a klutz/doofus/general idiot, rather than simply a disseminator of bad luck. Rosten either uses the "bowl of soup" metaphor or a variant "dropping the hot iron" metaphor, I can't remember which. Meschpoke >I'm not familiar with - but meschugge (or usually, meshuginna) is one I >heard all the time I've never seen it spelled "meshuginna," but I guess when you're transliterating, it doesn't really matter. "Meschpoke" sounds like a variant of "mischpoche" ("extended family"), which is one of the few Yiddish words my family uses frequently. I really regret that I was born too late to talk to my Yiddish-speaking great-grandparents. My dad reports that when he was a kid, they would speak in Yiddish when they wanted him not to understand, and he would get really pissed off. I wish they'd taught him Yiddish instead, but then they wouldn't have had any secrets. n. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:02:04 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: CNN and Aaron Brown (no fish) and I > really, really have trouble taking Paula Zahn seriously. You want trouble? Try taking seriously the anchor (Carol Costello?) that's on before Paula seriously. She seems more interested in celebrities, fashion, chit-chat with other reporters, and beaming smiles at the camera. Most irritating local news anchor comment: "...our forces, fighting for American freedom in Iraq..." Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:50:48 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Please report any suspicious looking wallies On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Michael E. Kupietz, future husband of Dr. Melanie Rosenberg, wrote: > For a very funny example of how my upbringing resembled a Phillip Roth > novel, check out . I will > never let my mother live this one down. This is wonderful. So'd you call her? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #111 ********************************