From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #107 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, March 23 2003 Volume 12 : Number 107 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Please report any suspicious looking wallies [grutness@surf4nix.com (Jame] Traditional Music ["If I Were Mad" ] Re: Traditional Music ["Stewart C. Russell" ] google weirdness ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: google weirdness [Tom Clark ] Re: google weirdness [Ken Weingold ] Feg musical and peace recommendations ["K L N W" ] Reap ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Feg musical and peace recommendations ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a] Scoreboard: ME [Tom Clark ] RE: Eye Sales totals ["Terrence Marks" ] Re: Scoreboard: ME [steve ] why soccer fans are the best ["Michael Wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 19:47:17 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Please report any suspicious looking wallies Ross T sez: >Meanwhile, Metro (our subway) has regular announcements saying "Please report >any suspicious looking persons ..." hell, that's all of us! >I'm just a wally hanging out on Padaya Beach... > >Umm... what's a wally? Something like a punter? Or a more ethnic-type >slur? A wally is a prat. A bit of a norman. A schlemiel. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 19:10:28 +0200 From: "If I Were Mad" Subject: Traditional Music Dusk is drawn and the cripple's thorn Is wrapped in wreaths of fog Can a sick man make a sick man well? The fairies sail their boat till dawn Across the starry bog Can a magician dispell magic's spell? The pearl-white moon has drained her cup of dew lily, germander and sops in wine And weeps to hear the sad, sweet song With sweetbriar, and bonfire, Strawberry--wire and columbine. Soon she will sing soft and true Another song not for you. Pythia, intoduction to follow She brings us glad tidings And tells us no lies _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:21:24 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Traditional Music If I Were Mad wrote: > > Pythia, intoduction to follow hmm, ISB lyrics -- and I'm not talking about Gram Parsons's early band, either. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:46:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: google weirdness google.com has been trying to send me 20-bytes .exe files when I connect. What gives? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 12:33:53 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: google weirdness on 3/22/03 9:46 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@sympatico.ca wrote: > google.com has been trying to send me 20-bytes .exe files when I > connect. What gives? I just did a sniff and didn't see anything unusual. Then again, my browser identifies me as a Mac, so an exe wouldn't do me any good. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:56:58 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: google weirdness On Sat, Mar 22, 2003, Tom Clark wrote: > on 3/22/03 9:46 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@sympatico.ca wrote: > > > google.com has been trying to send me 20-bytes .exe files when I > > connect. What gives? > > I just did a sniff and didn't see anything unusual. Then again, my browser > identifies me as a Mac, so an exe wouldn't do me any good. But Stewart was using either Linux or Solaris. That's the weird thing. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 21:30:44 +0000 From: "K L N W" Subject: Feg musical and peace recommendations I have returned. With the war whirling around us Ive been struck by something. We all agree. All the basic sides agree. What I mean is, all sides are denouncing each other for similar crimes. And what makes that interesting is that it seems to show that whether you support Bush, support peace, support the UN or support Saddam, you still see yourself as being against the use of unjust force. Which shows, in a saddly human way, how much we are all alike and how much most of us share the same values, yet ... . It makes me very aware of the war as an artifical contrievence, of leaders as tyrents of only relatively different evil stripes, and how similar horrors are perpetuated on some many fronts, from schoolyards to the Web to war fronts. And whats weird is any induvidual bully or group of bullies always fails sooner or later. History ampfully proves that. But a new one so often crops up. But not always. Except occaisionally there are small outbreaks of peace and progress, moments of grace in history. How do they happen? What brings them about? Has anyone studied peace as feverently as war is studied? What are the factors involved? Is there a basic pattern that can be emulated? Anyway, I have a fantasy band called The Mortals(Pointy Mike--you asked what obscure bands we champion and frankly, you dont get more obscure than your own fantasy band) . Anyway, the Mortals has several songwriters. One of them is the bass player, who is a small, dark-haired, dynamic and very angry. She writes bald, primitive lyrics that she screams out in a constant brawl over idiot chords. She thinks its still '77 even thou she's 26(however her parents played her the Beatles while she was in the womb, an influence she stubornly refuses to recognize.) And here is her song: On the Front By The Mortals Martyrs are drawn to heat, Bullies like this fine But sometimes heat backfires And people find their spines. Fairness and peace Is the only thing that works Anything less and a bully Risks his bullys perks. Bullies never see that. They think it just goes on But every bully falls Something small goes wrong, Then maybe something else. Fore long people lay their bets, N wonder to themselves, How long this guys got left. It may even take decades The bully may retire But some detail trips the wire His front gets torn away N hes just another liar And the bullies gotta face The heat of his own fire. Without the light of grace Yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah yeah Yeah. I told you they were bald and bad. But her point, that there are always bullies, that they always seem invinciple, and that they always fall, is good enough that I forgive her. And on a Feg note, she was inspired by a song by Rex Broome, where the narrator compares himself to Charlton Heston and threatens the girl in the song to keep quiet cause he packs similar heat. James, I know there is a peace flag. Is there a justice and mercy flag as well? Do you ever fly it? Kay _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:33:51 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Reap Cystic fibrosis patient and NPR diarist Laura Rothenberg http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1199420.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 14:29:31 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Feg musical and peace recommendations On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony K L N W on ebony sand, a dream at 3/22/03 9:30 PM +0000 in a mist of gray: >Anyway, I have a fantasy band called The Mortals(Pointy Mike--you asked >what >obscure bands we champion and frankly, you dont get more obscure than your >own fantasy band) Yeah, The Mortals! I once imagined I saw them at the Great American back in '99! Mike - -- ======== This is a piece by Peter Fruendlich heard on NPR. All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gun, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend it. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor bound to that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they see it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is good that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, "We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace," but not amusing for someone who commands an army to say that. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 19:32:38 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Scoreboard: ME http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2516246902&ssPageName=ADM E:B:EOAB:US:6 I just picked up a 1982 Albion pressing of "America" b/w "It Was The Night" & "How Do You Work This Thing?" for $5. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 23:18:59 -0500 From: "Terrence Marks" Subject: RE: Eye Sales totals > 38,750 "units". Surprisingly there was no mention of the number > of bakelite versions sold. Thing is, that's only the Twintone version, I believe. The Rhino version (hopefully) sold a bit more. Of course, I lack context for that sales figure as well. Terrence Marks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 23:29:24 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Scoreboard: ME On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 09:32 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > I just picked up a 1982 Albion pressing of "America" b/w "It Was The > Night" > & "How Do You Work This Thing?" for $5. But did you get one of these - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2918847633 - - Steve __________ "When we were getting ready to announce for the 1992 campaign, the Bush people said to us, 'Don't run this time -- wait four years and you'll have a free pass. If you do run, we'll destroy you.' And I said to Bill, 'What are they talking about -- how could they do that?' And now we're finding out." - Hillary Clinton to David Talbot, March 1998 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 09:16:02 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: why soccer fans are the best relayed via mlsnet... "Reuters reported that forward George Reilly, who scored Watford's winning goal in the 1984 FA Cup semifinal, had his ear bitten off recently by a disgruntled Plymouth fan who had held a grudge over his team's defeat for 19 years. The attacker chewed off one of Reilly's ears and whispered 'Plymouth' into the other one." That last bit is sheer genius. Michael "have a go at his nose" Wells ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #107 ********************************