From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #106 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 21 2003 Volume 12 : Number 106 Today's Subjects: ----------------- She shareth no secrets, she telleth no lies [grutness@surf4nix.com (James] Re: as a matter of fact it's all dark [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Digna] Syd/Floyd DVD ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Syd/Floyd DVD ["Mike Wells" ] straighten up and fly right ["ross taylor" ] ass, beer, cuckoos ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: straighten up and fly right [Eric Loehr ] Re: straighten up and fly right ["Stewart C. Russell" ] and in OTHER news.... [Eb ] Re: Feg musical recommendations [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Feg musical recommendations [Miles Goosens ] Re: Feg musical recommendations ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy ha] Re: Eye Sales totals [Tom Clark ] Re: Eye Sales totals [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 00:53:44 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: She shareth no secrets, she telleth no lies >Is that the song that goes, "Oh the cuckoo, she's a pretty bird, she wobbles >as she flies"? How many artists have covered that song, and where does it >come from? My mom heard me playing Kristin Hersh's version on the radio, >and said it was traditional. 'tis indeed a trad. My favourite version's the Pentangle version, and they credit it to our old friend the Trads. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2003 00:53:55 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: as a matter of fact it's all dark Eric queried: >Just out of curiosity, where does one buy flags? Do you have to "wait for >your man" to show up or is there a Flags'R'Us out there somewhere? the net is a wonderful thing. But there are also flag manufacturers and flag importers. I have a friend who specialises in importing unusual flags. If they're too unusual for him, then I have to resort to one of the web-based flag vendors like or or or . Actually, I can't remember ever having bought any from any of these places, but they are all in my bookmarks file, so I must have considered it at some time... FWIW, flags come in three basic varieties, as far as most collectors are concerned: 1) good quality polycotton/bunting/polypropylene; 2) cheap imitation; 3) hand made Wherever possible, type 1 is best, but is bloody expensive. type 3 is easy enough if the flag is an easily made one. and type 2 is not of good quality and has a tendency to be the wrong dimensions. I collect a mix of all three, getting the expensive types when there's no option, getting the cheaper ones when I can be sure that the designs and dimensions are accurate, and making the simple ones myself (and occasionally more complex ones - I think the most complicated one I've made would have been either Albania's or Cyprus's). The quality of the cheaper type is not of too much concern to me, since it's very rare I leave them up overnight - I tend to change to a different flag each day. I'm now up to 63 national flags in my collection, and a further 30 or so former national, regional, or generally odd flags. James nf - nothing. It's 1 am. Tomorrow, probably Mexico. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:12:02 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Syd/Floyd DVD I'm not sure where to find this. I'll let you know if I find out any more information. Note the Robyn Hitchcock performance in the bonus material. Marc The Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett Story RELEASED ON VHS & DVD ON 24TH MARCH 2003 One of the most famous creators and characters of the psychedelic era, Syd Barrett has not conducted an interview or released music since the early seventies yet his self-imposed anonymity still fascinates fans old and new. The original songwriter for Pink Floyd was only with the band for a vibrant 3 years when he left in 1968, yet when the band released their greatest hits album in 2001 Syd had written over a fifth of the tracks. This year it is 35 years since Syd Barrett left the band yet mystery still surrounds this prodigy of rock. The Pink Floyd and Syd Barrett Story retells the fascinating story of the start of one of the largest and most influential bands in rock and the drug induced breakdown of their original song writer and lead man. Direct Video Distribution UK is delighted to announce the 24th March 2003 VHS and DVD release of this personal and candid profile of the once effervescent musician and now cult figure of Syd Barrett. Roger Waters, Dave Gilmour, Nick Mason and Rick Wright retell how Syd's slip from reality haunted the band for many years and this is clearly demonstrated in the tracks Shine On You Crazy Diamond and Wish You Were Here. There are also insights from former girlfriends, landlords, flatmates, producers, managers, friends and famous fans. Also featuring rare early footage of the band performing; including a live show at the UFO Club, and an appearance with former landlord Mick Leonard on Tomorrows World. The main DVD is the Omnibus programme. This fascinating documentary traces the creative and personal tumult of Barrett's days with Pink Floyd, and the fallout from his psychedelics induced breakdown. The extras are of unseen footage and the sound quality of the DVD is outstanding in Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS surround sound. EXTRAS Roger Waters on Syd Barrett Extended interview of Roger Waters talking about Syd Barrett, which includes Syd's musical influences, his illness, the last time he saw Syd. Running time approx 10 minutes Dave Gilmour on Wish You Were Here Extended interview of Dave Gilmour talking about how Wish You Were Here was written. Running time approx 4 minutes Robyn Hitchcock performing Dominoes Singer/ songwriter of 60's influenced guitar pop group Soft Boys Dominoes is from Syd Barretts solo album Barrett released in November 1970 Running time approx 3 minutes Robyn Hitchcock performing It Is Obvious It Is Obvious is from Syd Barretts solo album Barrett released in November 1970 Running time approx 3 minutes Graham Coxon performing Love You Love You is from Syd Barretts solo album The Madcap Laughs released in January 1970 Running time approx 3 minutes Biography Detailed biography of Syd Barrett Sound Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS Surround Sound Subtitles French, Dutch, German & Spanish (Castilian) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 09:22:37 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: Syd/Floyd DVD It's showing as a pre-order on Amazon UK... http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008AWTB/ref=sr_aps_dvd_1_1/202-2 286912-5315054 Looks quite interesting, thanks for the tip Marc. And paging Jill Brand... Michael - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Holden" To: "Greg Ranocchia" ; "Phil Reed" ; "fegmaniax" ; Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:12 AM Subject: Syd/Floyd DVD > I'm not sure where to find this. I'll let you know if I find out any more > information. Note the Robyn Hitchcock performance in the bonus material. > Marc > > The Pink Floyd > and Syd Barrett Story > > RELEASED ON VHS & DVD ON 24TH MARCH 2003 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:34:50 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: straighten up and fly right Natalie-- >Is that the song that goes, "Oh the cuckoo, she's a pretty bird, she wobbles WARBLES! All this beer. Taj Mahal did a great version on The Natch'l Blues. - --- Re. current events-- "We pointed out the way to go And scratched your name in sand, Though you just thought it was nothing more Than a place for you to stand. Now, I want you to know that while we watched, You discover there was no one true. Most ev'rybody really thought It was a childish thing to do. Tears of rage, tears of grief, Must I always be the thief? Come to me now, you know We're so low And life is brief." Meanwhile, Metro (our subway) has regular announcements saying "Please report any suspicious looking persons ..." Ross Taylor Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 08:11:56 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: ass, beer, cuckoos >as the liner notes say, it was supposed to get them free bottles, and >it >worked. Perhaps Martin's taste in beer isn't so hot. It's OK, I'm still going to marry him. >They also did a jingle for Coca Cola. Nuff said? See above. I'd way rather get free Steinlager than free Coke, myself. >Besides Blatz, the next finer beer on the planet has to be Bigfoot >Barleywine. Isn't that something that hobbits drink? >The canonical version is Clarence Ashley's "The Coo Coo Bird" from the > >Anthology of American Folk Music. Ashley attributed almost religious > >significance to the song, saying for many years he wasn't ready to > >perform it. The version I have from him is from 1929. Interesting. I heard Pete Krebs (local folkie guy/former singer from Hazel/Elliott Smith associate) perform it a few months ago. I was with a visitor from Australia at the time and was explaining that it was a "very old American folk song." I guess I was pretty close to the mark. I recall dimly that Brian Dewan did a version of the song also, except it was about a drinky bird instead of a cuckoo. (re. ass-grabbing) >That's cool, but could you at least give Carrie Brownstein a little >tweak >on my behalf? Sure. I think she'd appreciate it more coming from me than coming from you. ;) n. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 11:13:41 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: straighten up and fly right At 10:34 AM 3/21/2003 -0500, ross wrote: >Natalie-- >>Is that the song that goes, "Oh the cuckoo, she's a pretty bird, she wobbles > >WARBLES! All this beer. Next question: are they fuzzy? Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 12:34:24 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: straighten up and fly right Ross wrote: > > WARBLES! All this beer. I thought that at first, but listen carefully to Clarence, I'm pretty sure he says "wobbles". They kind of do when they fly; very distinctive flight Listen for yourself: The Holy Modal Rounders definitely sing "wobbles" too, but then they were so out of their heads on speed when they recorded those albums, they would have anyway. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 10:03:05 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The ubiquitous cuckoo and other things to spit on Natalie: >>Is that the song that goes, "Oh the cuckoo, she's a pretty bird, she wobbles >>as she flies"? How many artists have covered that song, and where does it >>come from? My mom heard me playing Kristin Hersh's version on the radio, >>and said it was traditional. It's a weird song. Kristin Hersh learned it from her dad and tells a story about how he used to sing it for her as a child and she thought it was normal, only to later learn that the titular bird was associated with insanity. She says it might explain a few things. I used to sing it for my daughter but I got kind of concerned about that, too. Greil Marcus spends a fair amount of time with the song in "Invisible Republic". The other recent version is by the Be Good Tanyas on their "Blue Horse" album. They sold a lot of that one to Muses fans who thought it was a Hersh original. Also showed up in a live version by a respected banjo dude whose name I forget as the closing tune to one episode of the PBS documentary "American Roots Music" 2 years ago (he was playing a really cool primitive-looking banjo, though, I do recall that). Seems to be experiencing quite a resurgence... Nat, were you going to bring that post full circle by mentioning neo-bluegrass band Nickel Creek's vaguely "traditional" sounding cover of "Spit on a Stranger"? >>Hey, Steven Malkmus is a celebrity, so he's no stranger. (Did you really >>think I was actually going to grab his ass?) It did occur to me that >>tapping him on the back could technically be considered assault and battery Maybe. I once thusly assaulted someone who I thought might be Black Francis, and then asked him if he was Black Francis, which was a remarkably stupid question in a lot of ways. But it was in fact Black Francis, or more accurately Frank Black, although nobody knew it yet. Whole story doubtless in the feg archives numerous times. ____ Hey, is Massive Attack going to become Massive again for a while? They keep getting inadvertant mentions in the war coverage. Maybe they should change their name to The Dixie Chicks this time... _____ Since we've had beer songs and a few mentions of Singha, The Pogues' "House of the Gods" deserves a mention: Singha beer don't ask no questions Singha beer don't tell no lies Singha beer don't ask no questions Singha beer don't tell no lies I'm just a wally hanging out on Padaya Beach... Umm... what's a wally? Something like a punter? Or a more ethnic-type slur? More beer songs, say I. To aid in the whole "attempting vigorously to ignore current events in order to maintain sanity" thing. - -Rex, who don't ever holler cuckoo 'til the Fourth Day of July (sometimes not even then) nd. same bad coffee. Although I did have some Sapporo last night with my sushi. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:01:40 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Feg musical recommendations I'm going to be suspending my subscription for a while - waaaaaaaay too much email, 99 emails yesterday after filtering out all the spam - but I had something I wanted to ask you all before I take a break. I've noticed a lot of people on this list seem to know a lot about bands I've never heard of. So I thought I'd throw out a general request for recommendations for things I should hear but may have missed. If you have any recommendations (preferably by specific album) and could include 1.) some sort of genre or other, better-known band I might have heard of that you could compare them to, just to give me an idea, and 2.) what sets it apart for you, what you particularly like about it I would be most appreciative. Always nice to have the ol' horizons expanded a bit more. Also, why not, if it's a story worth telling, you could mention how you got turned on to it - I'm always curious how people get turned on to that semi obscure stuff that never happened to cross my particular path. Mike - -- ======== This is a piece by Peter Fruendlich heard on NPR. All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gun, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend it. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor bound to that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they see it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is good that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, "We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace," but not amusing for someone who commands an army to say that. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:12:15 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Feg musical recommendations >I've noticed a lot of people on this list seem to know a lot about bands >I've never heard of. So I thought I'd throw out a general request for >recommendations for things I should hear but may have missed. If you have >any recommendations (preferably by specific album) and could include >1.) some sort of genre or other, better-known band I might have heard of >that you could compare them to, just to give me an idea, and >2.) what sets it apart for you, what you particularly like about it >I would be most appreciative. Always nice to have the ol' horizons expanded a bit more. Such requests are kinda tough to handle unless you give people an idea of bands which you already like. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:25:30 -0800 From: Eb Subject: and in OTHER news.... LONDON (Reuters) - British singer Bryan Ferry (news), smooth frontman of new wave band Roxy Music, was granted a divorce from his wife of 21 years by a London court on Friday on the basis of her adultery. Ferry was granted an uncontested divorce from former model Lucy Helmore after he filed papers saying she had admitted adultery and he now found it "intolerable" to continue living with her. The singer was 36 and at the height of his popularity when he married the 22-year-old model and heiress in 1982. The couple have four sons. Ferry said in the papers that he had first suspected his wife was cheating on him in May 2000. "The respondent has admitted adultery," he said, adding that she was still cheating on him when they parted. Renowned for his good looks and tailored dress, he became an international music and style icon with Roxy Music which had a string of hits in the 1970s and early 1980s including "Avalon," "Love is the Drug" and "Dance Away." After the band split in the early 1980s, he went on to enjoy a successful solo career and his latest album, "Frantic" was released in April 2002. Newspapers have reported the 57-year-old Ferry has started a new relationship with 21-year-old dancer Katie Ford. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:38:53 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Feg musical recommendations Quoting "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" : > I've noticed a lot of people on this list seem to know a lot about bands > I've never heard of. So I thought I'd throw out a general request for > recommendations for things I should hear but may have missed. If you > have > any recommendations (preferably by specific album) and could include > 1.) some sort of genre or other, better-known band I might have heard of > that you could compare them to, just to give me an idea, and > 2.) what sets it apart for you, what you particularly like about it > I would be most appreciative. I have my own little set of pocket bands - not too many, but a few, which I keep harping on every time they have new releases. Rather than fill this space with even more of my words, I'll direct you elsewhere - to my review site (URL in .sig), where there are even more even more of my words - for my thoughts on these bands: The Rock*a*Teens The Wrens (note: in neither case do I mean the doo-wop band from the '50s - odd coincidence that!) The Caribbean (np: _History's First Know-it-All_, their new one) Anton Barbeau John Vanderslice/MK Ultra Lilys (not all that "pocket" but hey) uh, and...the L*ud F*mily - but you knew that. Honorable mention for people I knew first and then their music: somewhat hard to find, maybe, but...: Paula Carino/Regular Einstein; Belle da Gama ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ps: thanks for the Freundlich quote from NPR! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 14:42:25 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Feg musical recommendations One album I've been meaning to pimp on this list for a while now is "Prettier Than You" by Brian Stevens. I guess you would call it power pop or some flavor thereof. Stevens was the bass player for "The Cavedogs", who I got turned onto while living in the Boston area in the late 80's. Amazon has some clips from the album and some straight-on glowing reviews. I remember Andy Partridge contributed somehow, but luckily not a whole lot (ducking). A word about The Cavedogs, their first album "Joyrides For Shutins" is also a must own. One of my favorite songs ever is "Baba Ganoush" from that album. It's funny, after hearing Steven's solo album and the one from Cavedogs guitarist Todd Spahr's band The Gravy, you can really tell who wrote which Cavedogs song - kind of a Lennon/McCartney thing. Stevens definitely has a better knack for melody, while Spahr is more aggressive but inconsistent. And Cavedogs drummer Mark Rivers went on to the band Poundcake, which put out a catchy but fairly uneventful album called "Aloha Via Satellite". Whew, I've been meaning to write this up for over a year. Thanks for the nudge, Mike. And good luck to you. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 16:56:51 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Feg musical recommendations At 04:38 PM 3/21/2003 -0600, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: >Anton Barbeau >Honorable mention for people I knew first and then their music: somewhat >hard to find, maybe, but...: Paula Carino/Regular Einstein; Belle da Gama If I could get every Feg to buy someone's CD, making my choice by "if you like Robyn I'll bet you'll love Artist X," the two finalists would be Anton and Paula. I've touted it here before, but Paula's AQUACADE is a flat-out amazing accomplishment. Both she and Anton are ex-Fegs, if that makes anyone more disposed to check them out, and their CDs, as well as the excellent Belle da Gama album, are both handily available at . later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 20:53:39 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Eye Sales totals See bottom of page, I never really wondered. I don't know if I amsurprised. http://www.twintone.com/projects/89175.html _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:08:05 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Feg musical recommendations On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Eb on ebony sand, a dream at 3/21/03 2:12 PM -0800 in a mist of gray: >Such requests are kinda tough to handle unless you give people an >idea of bands which you already like. Tough call - my tastes are across the board. Knowing my love for Pink Floyd*, a friend suggested I check out Amon Duul II "Phallus Dei", which is great, but only looking for things that are similar to what I already like would never have turned me on to Mr. Quintron, fer instance, or Belle & Sebastian, or Dr. Octagon. Anyway, I just hoped to learn a little more about some of the bands I haven't known who I have heard talked up here, & maybe get exposed to the unexpected. (*it's actually a sheer coincidence that my attribution header and alias to the feg list are both PF references right now.) On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey on ebony sand, a dream at 3/21/03 4:38 PM -0600 in a mist of gray: > I'll direct you elsewhere - to my review >site (URL in .sig), where there are even more even more of my words Cool, man, thanks! >ps: thanks for the Freundlich quote from NPR! Yeah, a friend forwarded me that & I immediately changed all my .sig's to it. I think I'm going to print up a few hundred copies of it and pass it out at saturday's rally, along with Bush's quote from the State Of The Union address, "Throughout the 20th century, small groups of men seized control of great nations, built armies and arsenals, and set out to dominate the weak and intimidate the world." On a distant shore, miles from land, stands an ebony Miles Goosens on ebony sand, a dream at 3/21/03 4:56 PM -0600 in a mist of gray: >Both she and Anton are ex-Fegs, if that makes anyone more disposed to >check them out, and their CDs, as well as the excellent Belle da Gama >album, are both handily available at . Oh, damn, according to the site Belle da Gama played here three days ago! At one of my favorite little clubs, to boot. Mike - -- ======== This is a piece by Peter Fruendlich heard on NPR. All right, let me see if I understand the logic of this correctly. We are going to ignore the United Nations in order to make clear to Saddam Hussein that the United Nations cannot be ignored. We're going to wage war to preserve the UN's ability to avert war. The paramount principle is that the UN's word must be taken seriously, and if we have to subvert its word to guarantee that it is, then by gun, we will. Peace is too important not to take up arms to defend it. Am I getting this right? Further, if the only way to bring democracy to Iraq is to vitiate the democracy of the Security Council, then we are honor bound to that too, because democracy, as we define it, is too important to be stopped by a little thing like democracy as they see it. Also, in dealing with a man who brooks no dissension at home, we cannot afford dissension among ourselves. We must speak with one voice against Saddam Hussein's failure to allow opposing voices to be heard. We are sending our gathered might to the Persian Gulf to make the point that might does not make right, as Saddam Hussein seems to think it does. And we are twisting the arms of the opposition until it agrees to let us oust a regime that twists the arms of the opposition. We cannot leave in power a dictator who ignores his own people. And if our people, and people elsewhere in the world, fail to understand that, then we have no choice but to ignore them. Listen. Don't misunderstand. I think it is good that the members of the Bush administration seem to have been reading Lewis Carroll. I only wish someone had pointed out that "Alice in Wonderland" and "Through the Looking Glass" are meditations on paradox and puzzle and illogic and on the strangeness of things, not templates for foreign policy. It is amusing for the Mad Hatter to say something like, "We must make war on him because he is a threat to peace," but not amusing for someone who commands an army to say that. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 18:10:58 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Eye Sales totals on 3/21/03 5:53 PM, Maximilian Lang at maximlang@hotmail.com wrote: > See bottom of page, I never really wondered. I don't know if I amsurprised. > > http://www.twintone.com/projects/89175.html > 38,750 "units". Surprisingly there was no mention of the number of bakelite versions sold. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:10:37 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Eye Sales totals > > http://www.twintone.com/projects/89175.html >> > >38,750 "units". Surprisingly there was no mention of the number of bakelite >versions sold. Huh...interesting page, especially because it does provide plenty of sales figures. I never have enough perspective on just how poorly such indie-level albums sell. For instance, David Thomas' Blame the Messenger. Great album, by a guy who leads a long-running band with substantial name recognition. Yet...under 1,800 copies sold! Wow. Etc. I sure would love to have access to SoundScan figures. Based on this page, it appears that the Replacements' Hootenanny and Let It Be are the only Twin/Tone albums which outsold Eye? Wouldn't have necessarily expected this. Soul Asylum? Babes in Toyland? The Jayhawks? I guess not. The sales for the first Ween album aren't provided, though...maybe that's a wrench in the works. Speaking of the first Ween album, has anyone bought the recent reissue with two or three new bonus tracks? Are those any good? (PS I didn't know Peter Jesperson worked for New West Records now....) Michael K.: > >Such requests are kinda tough to handle unless you give people an >>idea of bands which you already like. > >Tough call - my tastes are across the board. Yeah, yeah...that's what they *all* say. Then you actually see a list of their faves, and think "Oh, OK...I know where to file him NOW." ;) Here are some musical folks whom I recommend: http://home.earthlink.net/~elbroome/bands.html Knock yerself out! Eb, shamefully ignorant about the Suburbs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #106 ********************************