From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #92 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, March 11 2003 Volume 12 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: And now for something completely different [Sabina Carlson ] Re: We Don't Need Co-Education (or do we?) ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Reap... [Eb ] Re: Industrialised women ["Michael Wells" ] Re: for those having a harried day [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: Clean Anthology [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Galaxie 500 groupe blues-trash [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: And now for something completely different [Elizabeth Brion ] Dead horse, rendered yet deader [Eb ] Re: Dead horse, rendered yet deader [Michael R Godwin ] anal Jill, bad Jill [Jill Brand ] six-legged bassist wanted ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: And now for something completely different ["Jason R. Thornton" ] RE: Dead horse, rendered yet deader ["Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" ] Re: Rex's Record Review Roundup (long but nonpolitical) [Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: And now for something completely different about the sheep story: my french teacher was hit in the head with a pig's foot at a marilyn manson concert. actually it was nine inch nails i think but manson was opening? eh. the thing is he's a vegetarian so it was excessively disturbing for him. sorry i just wanted to share more dead animal injuries at concert stories... :-) and its only a poisonous plant, sabina sheena - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eb" To: "fgz" Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:41 PM Subject: And now for something completely different > Sheep Head Breaks Music Fan's Skull > > OSLO, Norway - A flying sheep's head hit a concertgoer and fractured > his skull at a concert of metal band Mayhem. > > The band, part of Norway's death metal music scene, was carving up a > dead sheep as part of its stage act when the animal's head flew off > lead singer Maniac's knife and struck Per Kristian Hagen, 25. > > The show was Thursday in Bergen, 487 kilometers (302 miles) west of > the capital, Oslo. > > "My relationship to sheep is a bit ambivalent now. I like them, but > not when they come flying through the air," Hagen told The Associated > Press Monday from his hospital room. "I have a headache now." He is > expected to recover. > > Hagen, a Mayhem fan, filed involuntary assault and battery charges > against the band. The charges carry a maximum sentence of six months > in prison. > > Mayhem member Rune Eriksen, whose stage name is Blasphemer, said the > incident was unfortunate. > > "The whole thing was an accident, but maybe it would be an idea for > another show," he said. > > Eriksen promised Hagen a free ticket to the group's next performance. > > Police detective Carl-Petter Leganger told the AP an investigation > has started, but "nothing suggests this was a conscious act." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:00:29 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: We Don't Need Co-Education (or do we?) Jeffrey: >>If you mean "it's a drag that bands seem to want women only if they play >>certain instruments, i.e., bass or keyboards," Sorry, I think I got two points confused there... I know who was in both of those bands and what they did, and I think they had the lineups they did for mostly organic and honest reasons. Miller stuck his girlfriend in there a time or two, and it seems odd that the GB's picked a female drummer to replace Lindsay until you realize that Janet Weiss (sp??) was indeed the best man for the job, so it all evens out. The real suspect is Corgan who had to have another female bassist, and an already famous one at that. But none of those people were really part of the current phenomenon I was trying to descibe... What I've seen recently is a tendency for bands with fluxuating lineups to make a point of billing themselves as "co-ed"; it has a certain post-Belle & Sebastian/Bright Eyes indie cred imperative. I see it, as I mentioned, in the musicians-wanted ads, but I also personally know folks in two different bands (both of them pretty good, actually) founded and fronted by guys, who make a point of the female hires for certain instrumental roles. Odd phenomenon, that's all. The women who were in and out of the Go-Betweens, Game Theory, Mekons, and any number of old-skool ko-ed indie bands are probably part of the lineage that's led up to this developing co-ed "orthodoxy", but I surely didn't mean to accuse them of it themselves. Even though, by wording it sloppily, I did just that! >>Ironically,given what you're saying, Scott Miller's bands (correct me if >>I'm wrong, I'm doing this from memory) have featured women in every >>instrumental role *except* bass player I saw a band opening for my friend's brother's band in San Francisco s few years back, and recognized the drummer as Dawn Richardson from the Loud Family. Cool, thought I. Some guy heard me telling my wife I liked this other band she was in, and said, "Yeah, what band was she in?", and I said, "The Loud Family", thinking, hey, it's the Bay Area, maybe he actually knows them. He thought for a while, and then said, "No, she was in Four Non-Blondes", which I was pretty sure was wrong, until I realized that I knew absolutely nothing about Four Non-Blondes as their entire career seems to have occurred when I lived in France, and of course the guy turned out to be right. I don't think that made me cool, but it also didn't make me lame... >>* True! A friend of my sister had Dave Wakeling play at her wedding a few >>weeks back... He also played Richard "Flashback Lunch" Blade's farewell party a few years back. He did "Save It for Later" with the most horrifyingly detuned acoustic 12-string I have ever heard; it went out live over the radio and I felt truly sorry for him. Someone really shoulda pulled the plug. _______ Max: >>Must admit(shamefully) that I saw the Superbowl Is Gay video on The Jimmy >>Kimmle Show(only because Sarah Silverman was on). Don't be too shameful; Silverman's actually dating the guy! I actually have enjoyed a lot of Kimmel's stuff over the years (Adam Corrolla and the Man Show not so much, but many of his radio bits were hilarious), but I really can't fathom that matchup. Broke up his marriage, too. Weird. __ MEKWAPH >>But Fegmaniax list archives don't seem to turn up in Google searches Oh yes they do. And I have suffered mightily for it. I advise against use of full proper names when discussing third parties here and elsewhere. So when James says: >> In which case, writing about him online is probably not the wisest thing, yes? ...Rex says, word. Watch out for psychotic people you used to know personally, especially. The nutjobs are the most likely to google themselves (hee hee). - -Rex "Whistling Tunes We Piss on the Plinths in the Jungle" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:06:14 -0500 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: Reap... Deadpan 70s comedian and frequent David Letterman guest George Miller, 61, of leukemia. He died Wednesday - how did I miss this? Tim /apologies if this is a repeat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:08:37 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: We Don't Need Co-Education (or do we?) >From: "Rex.Broome" >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:00:29 -080 >>Max: > >>Must admit(shamefully) that I saw the Superbowl Is Gay video on The >Jimmy > >>Kimmle Show(only because Sarah Silverman was on). >Don't be too shameful; Silverman's actually dating the guy! I actually >have >enjoyed a lot of Kimmel's stuff over the years (Adam Corrolla and the Man >Show not so much, but many of his radio bits were hilarious), but I really >can't fathom that matchup. Broke up his marriage, too. Weird. Well, not shameful because of her(my Jewbian princess), and he is okay but the show is kinda anemic, it's new, so I don't want to be to hard on it. I see them together and he is just so love struck, all dreamy eyed. She has a 'I'm going to break this schmuck's heart' look in her eyes. At one point in one episode she says she is open to dating men of any religions and she would even consider dating another Jew, I thought that was a pretty rude thing to say in front of your boyfriend. I don't think it was in jest either. Max _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:49:03 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: We Don't Need Co-Education (or do we?) Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > I saw a band opening for my friend's brother's band in San Francisco s > few > years back, and recognized the drummer as Dawn Richardson from the Loud > Family. Cool, thought I. Some guy heard me telling my wife I liked > this > other band she was in, and said, "Yeah, what band was she in?", and I > said, > "The Loud Family", thinking, hey, it's the Bay Area, maybe he actually > knows > them. He thought for a while, and then said, "No, she was in Four > Non-Blondes", which I was pretty sure was wrong, until I realized that I > knew absolutely nothing about Four Non-Blondes as their entire career > seems > to have occurred when I lived in France, and of course the guy turned out > to > be right. I don't think that made me cool, but it also didn't make me > lame... I think knowing absolutely nothing about Four Non-Blondes is the height of cool: that hit song of theirs has got to be one of the *worst* records ever. Don't have that high an opinion of Dawn Richardson, either...I can't judge her as a drummer, since she played on only a handful of tracks on one album, and other drummers play on several of the same tracks - but she bailed on the band on the eve of a tour to join some other act: no class, say I. Re the women in bands thing: I kind of agree with you, now that I know what you meant...but I also think sometimes it's legit to *want* to have women in the band specifically so interactions aren't as, uh, guy-like. Gives a different environment to the band, I guess. An iffy question, if you ask me. 'Course, I've never been in a band, so what the hell do I know. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism np: The Circulatory System s/t ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 18:53:04 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Chick Drummers on 3/10/03 6:00 PM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > I saw a band opening for my friend's brother's band in San Francisco s few > years back, and recognized the drummer as Dawn Richardson from the Loud > Family. Cool, thought I. Some guy heard me telling my wife I liked this > other band she was in, and said, "Yeah, what band was she in?", and I said, > "The Loud Family", thinking, hey, it's the Bay Area, maybe he actually knows > them. He thought for a while, and then said, "No, she was in Four > Non-Blondes", which I was pretty sure was wrong, until I realized that I > knew absolutely nothing about Four Non-Blondes as their entire career seems > to have occurred when I lived in France, and of course the guy turned out to > be right. I don't think that made me cool, but it also didn't make me > lame... "Female drummer from SF" just reminded me of one of my faves: Lynn Perko of "Sister Double Happiness" and "Imperial Teen". She rocks. And call me a weenie if you will, but I like Donna C. (aka Torry Castellano) from The Donnas. She's like a mini Dave Grohl. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:10:54 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Reap... >Deadpan 70s comedian and frequent David Letterman guest George Miller, 61, >of leukemia. He died Wednesday - how did I miss this? Huh...I didn't hear about this either! Eb, a bit too familiar with the L-word lately ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:21:11 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Industrialised women the firm of Godwin & Dignan: > >I should start with Mary Wollstonecraft, who was the primary (not to say > >the only) women's rights writer in England at the time. > > good point. MW (mother of the writer of Frankenstein, as well, IIRC) was > worth reading. Simon Schama's TV series (and book) "The history of Britain" > also mentions the writings of John Stuart Mill and Harriet Taylor, notably > Mill's book "On the subjection of women", published in 1869. OK, Mike - time to fess up! Any relation? ;) And you're right, James - Mary Wollstonecraft (Godwin) Shelley is her daughter, married to Percy Bysshe Shelley ('just a small one, please'). And Sabina, for more (quite unpleasant) info on women's work conditions just about any link relating to Annie Besant and her match girl strike will get you well on your way. Michael "John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, on half a pint of shandy was particularly ill" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:49:00 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: for those having a harried day On 6 Mar 2003 at 15:18, Caroline Smith wrote: > http://members.aol.com/beardguy/ What, no Osama picture? This may be the main point of this post: Each time I feel myself ready to bail from FM, some of you start talking about beards or new bands again, and I'm in for another round. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:39:40 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Clean Anthology >The Clean, Anthology: >[...] >I hope to god Steven >Malkmus cut these guys a royalty check as least as big as the one he owes >Mark E. Smith, because... damn, they are the exact midpoint between the >Velvets and Pavement, more so even than, say, the Feelies or Galaxie 500. well, to quote Mr Malkmus from the liner notes of 'God save the Clean': "The Clean! If every kid in America could listen to 'Anything could happen', who knows...? Just listen to them and they will freak you out!". Which I think, translated, means he likes them. BTW, Pavement performed 'Odditty'(sic) on the 'God save the Clean' album. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:08:57 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Galaxie 500 groupe blues-trash http://www.galaxie-500.com Click on "Tracteur" to hear them. Ben voyons donc! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:09:41 -0800 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: And now for something completely different On Monday, March 10, 2003, at 05:45 PM, Sabina Carlson wrote: > about the sheep story: > my french teacher was hit in the head with a pig's foot at a marilyn > manson > concert. actually it was nine inch nails i think but manson was > opening? eh. > the thing is he's a vegetarian so it was excessively disturbing for > him. Wow. Suddenly, I feel kinda lucky, relatively speaking, about the time I got hit in the stomach with a banana at a Guns n' Roses concert. At least I got to maintain my vegetarian dignity. All other forms of dignity proved difficult to manifest with a large, recognizably banana-shaped bruise on my abdomen. E ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:58:22 -0600 From: steve Subject: Fwd: [Embrionic] February 21 Mini-Review From the Jon Brion list - Begin forwarded message: > It was a pretty good night at Largo. Jon started off with a few song > building exercises (layering drums, piano & guitar). I think they > were all > orginal tracks. It seemed as if he was really wanting to play lead > guitar. > He was then looking for some sing-a-long songs. Someone shouted outed > out > 'Hey Jude'. He complied, but wanted to make it more interesting, so he > performed it in a Thelonious Monk style. Jon later returned to the > briefly > abandoned sing-a-long format to perform an audience participation > version of > Joe Jackson's, "Is She Really Going Out With Him". Robyn Hitchcock was > brought out to read Stevie Wonder lyrics over Jon's piano version of > Pink > Floyd's, "Bike" (where else, but Largo, could you possibly see that?). > Then my friend was dragged... errr... hypnotized up on stage by > 'Mysterioso' > (or something like that) so he could perform a magical interlude of > floating > plastic bags - albeit with the aid of metal sticks - while jon played > mystical thermin-type music. The night ended with a second set that > consisted of Amy Corria performing some new songs, then Robyn > returning for > a number of his songs... - - Steve __________ Anime as a whole isn't really my bag, but 15 minutes with "Spirited Away" - or any Miyazaki film - should be enough to convince you you're in the presence of a major film artist. - Andrew O'Hehir ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:29:20 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Dead horse, rendered yet deader Pete Townshend to be 'given a caution' 10 March 2003 Rock star Pete Townshend will not be prosecuted for possessing child pornography, it was reported today. The Who guitarist, 57, is expected to get a formal police caution, after insisting he accessed a child porn website as part of a research project into the horrors of the paedophile trade. Sources say the decision came after detailed examinations of computers seized during a raid at his Richmond home. Insiders say it now appears "highly unlikely" he will face a court appearance. Townshend's credit-card details had appeared among 7,272 names handed to police by the US Postal Inspection Service. The charges he had faced - of possessing, making and incitement to distribute indecent images of children - could have led to up to five years in jail. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:57:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Dead horse, rendered yet deader SPECTOR 'CLEARED ON SHOOTING' A B-movie actress found shot dead in the Los Angeles mansion of legendary pop producer Phil Spector pulled the trigger herself, it has been reported. An LA radio station quoted police as saying Lana Clarkson, 40, accidentally fired the fatal shot herself. The station said Spector, 62 - who had been arrested on suspicion of murder -will not now face any charges. RECEIVED: 11/03/2003 12:46:16 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:38:01 -0600 (CST) From: gshell@metronet.com Subject: Re: Dead reindeer On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Eb wrote: > Sources say the decision came after detailed examinations of computers > seized during a raid at his Richmond home. well, hmmm. a unique alibi, research. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:57:12 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: Industrialised women someone wrote: > >I should start with Mary Wollstonecraft, who was the primary (not to say > >the only) women's rights writer in England at the time. While MW is really the first of what we would call the feminists, she was not the only writer advocating changes for women. Many writers of the 1790s advocated changes in women's education and many supported women authors--we see a blossoming field of women's writing from the 1790s on, compared to what preceeded it. In fact, we have women like Charlotte Smith and Letitia Barbauld who wrote to earn a living, which was a rare event previously. If you start with MW you will be led to lots of other women and men who, at the turn of the 19C, were all for change. The fight for women parallels the fight for Abolition so you may find sources that way, too. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:09:11 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: anal Jill, bad Jill Tom wrote in meticulously retelling his abuse-at-the-hands-of-Peter-Buck experiences: April 1, 1989: I see Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians at The Paradise in Boston. No, no, Tom, you saw them on April 1, 1988 at the Paradise, 'cause I was there. The following year at that time, I was 2 weeks postpartum, and I wasn't carousing at all. I also saw REM open for the English Beat, BTW. I saw them open for two other bands as well (Squeeze? Elvis Costello?) but I can't remember exactly for whom. Maybe if that Jane the Timeline Chick were an REM fan, she could tell us all the bands they opened for. I love people who are truly into fandom unless I have to be in a car with them for 7-8 hours, and then even Elton John's Crocodile Rock sounds refreshing. Once I spent a weekend in Vermont with a bunch of very overweight Doctor Who fans (and these are people who go to all the conventions dressed up as Daleks and shit like that - I expect that Sumi is grinning hard right now), and I was simply amazed at the energy that was put forth as each tried to prove that her (yes, it was all 'hers') Doctor was the best ("Sylv, really, I mean, he outstrips Peter Davison in every possible way"). I have been accused by the unenlightened of being a total fangirl, but when those accusations fly, I smile ("wan grin" comes to mind) and say in my best Jeremy Irons, "You have no idea." Jill, who is going to see Dave Davies solo for about the 16th time in 5 years ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:12:26 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: six-legged bassist wanted >Natalie, >I think the sole and self-evident reason for your appearance in an > >alternate universe is because you've been hanging out with someone >known >as "Jane the Timeline Chick". It's true, though she didn't have a beard. I was kind of miffed because she referred to the tinfoil Hathor that I gave her as "a bull in a cocktail dress." >A newer one: it is cool to have women in your >band, but lame to insist that one instrumental role can only be filled >by >a woman (usually bass or keyboards). That's what the Pixies did, yeah? They advertised for a female bassist because they wanted a woman to do harmonies and they (obviously) also needed a bassist. I'm still not sure why, when there's a lone woman in the band, she almost always ends up playing bass or keyboards. What is so specifically feminine about those instruments? Why not guitar, drums, trumpet, or accordion? gnat "I am the lone woman in my band, and I play guitar, dammit!" the gnatster p.s. Tom, Peter Buck told me that he's secretly in love with you, but doesn't have the courage to show his adoration. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:13:40 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: And now for something completely different At 09:09 PM 3/10/2003 -0800, Elizabeth Brion wrote: >>about the sheep story: >>my french teacher was hit in the head with a pig's foot at a marilyn manson >>concert. actually it was nine inch nails i think but manson was opening? eh. >>the thing is he's a vegetarian so it was excessively disturbing for him. > >Wow. Suddenly, I feel kinda lucky, relatively speaking, about the time I >got hit in the stomach with a banana at a Guns n' Roses concert. At least >I got to maintain my vegetarian dignity. I don't think I've been hit by anything at a concert, animal, vegetable or mineral, besides maybe an elbow or a beachball. I did see a guy who was standing right in front of me get hit in the face by a flying pint glass at a Frank Black show last year, but at that point it was empty of even ale. I also don't believe I've ever been to a show where there was any sort of meat or animal parts on-stage... not even a corn dog. I suppose my tastes in music protect me from pyrotechnic and flying flesh related injuries, although I am more likely to be choked to death on fog-machine produced gases or poked in the eye by the edge of some goth-girl's bouncing ankh. I may also get beaten up by Robert Fripp for looking at him while he plays. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:16:56 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: six-legged bassist wanted At 08:12 AM 3/11/2003 -0800, Natalie Jane wrote: >I'm still not sure why, when there's a lone woman in the band, she almost >always ends up playing bass or keyboards. What is so specifically >feminine about those instruments? They're the most like baking. >Why not guitar, drums, trumpet, or accordion? The breasts usually get in the way. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 08:17:36 -0800 From: "Jason Brown \(Echo Services Inc\)" Subject: RE: Dead horse, rendered yet deader Michael R Godwin [mailto:M.R.Godwin@bath.ac.uk] wrote: > SPECTOR 'CLEARED ON SHOOTING' > > A B-movie actress found shot dead in the Los Angeles mansion of > legendary pop producer Phil Spector pulled the trigger herself, it has > been reported. > > An LA radio station quoted police as saying Lana Clarkson, 40, > accidentally fired the fatal shot herself. > > The station said Spector, 62 - who had been arrested on suspicion of > murder -will not now face any charges. > > RECEIVED: 11/03/2003 12:46:16 not so fast! http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/Stories/0,1413,206~22097~1234853,00.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:30:15 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Rex's Record Review Roundup (long but nonpolitical) On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > Laika, Lost in Space 1993-2002: > Do any other Fegs like these guys even a fraction as much as I do? I liked the first and third records, though I don't know what made them think setting a "funny" email forward to music was a good idea on that last one. My record store priced this collection nice and cheap, so I happily bought it as a disc of rarities with a "bonus" compilation of old songs. > The Go-Betweens, Bright Yellow Bright Orange (plus bonus disc): > [...] But what do I know; I liked the first reunion album, "Friends of > Rachel Worth", too, and from what I've heard a lot of GB's fans weren't > so keen on it. Yeah, I don't like the two new albums much, and I don't think they sound like old Go-Betweens, but that's not why; I don't feel betrayed or anything. a np: Beans - Tomorrow Right Now ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:47:02 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: RE: Rex's Record Review Roundup Aaron on Laika: >>I don't know what made them think setting a "funny" email forward to music >>was a good idea on that last one. Got them some airplay. Straight-up novelty songs will do that sometimes. To me it's a tolerable dull stretch on a great record, but I have been known to put "Badtimes" on compilations for my less album-oriented friends who rely on my musical tastes... the fools. Also, I love the second Laika album-- "Almost Sleeping" is one of my favorites left off the comp. Anyhoo... >>Yeah, I don't like the two new albums much, and I don't think they sound >>like old Go-Betweens, but that's not why; I don't feel betrayed or >>anything. Just curious... do you simply find them uninspired? What's your take on Grant & Robert's solo records? I liked most of them but kinda found them occasionally, in Robert's words, "Too Much of One Thing", so in that sense the new Go-Betweens records would be a step up no matter what. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:08:04 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: "nothing suggests this was a conscious act." (0% sheep metal) Rockin' rockin' monolith-- I always assumed they were "Around the Plinth" and is was some kind of dig at Rod Stewart/Jeff Beck. - --- Chicks in bands-- Bass, keyboards, drums (and sax) do seem to be the approved instruments. There were a lot of women on bass in the 80s, particularly the early 80s, but the only one I thought brought anything special to it was Susan Stenger. I like Kims Gordon and Deal as songwriters but felt they (like me, in the bands I was in) were told to play the instrument with the fewest strings. What was really typecasting was when a girl band would bring in a male lead guitarist (as did On Beyond Zebra, which later morphed into Betty). I like lots of acts where women play guitar, but I'd still be hard pressed to say who my fav female lead guitarist is -- probably Bonnie Rait. There's a nice novel called "Break the Heart of Me" by Elizabeth Dewberry that features a woman drummer. She play's country, but there's interesting stuff about her reaction to the feminine feel of drums. I've been in all male bands & co-ed bands (one w/ f keys, other w/ f singer & f sax) and I really prefer the feel of being co-ed, as long as there's no Fleetwood Mac type problems. More like real life, you know? Fewer stupid guy-jokes. But in general, in work places, I think I work better with women than men. - --- Not much to say about it, but really enjoy 3 different ways of looking at Peter Buck. Evil Guy indeed! - --- Robyn's Poem-- Thanks for pointing that out, Nuppy! It reminds me of later Ginsberg, and Ferlingetti & Gregory Corso and most particularly Bob Kaufman (who invented the term "beanik"). Robyn's music is 60s, but I've always thought that verbally he was a beat. Hippies couldn't really rap that well. Ross Taylor "Which side are you on?" "Side two ..." "Good! Then you're with us!" --Firsesign Theatre Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #92 *******************************