From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #82 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, March 3 2003 Volume 12 : Number 082 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Birthday show? ["Maximilian Lang" ] stuck on the brain [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: You'll Have To Let The Old World Go [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] correction to a correction of a correction [Sabina Carlson ] Re: Birthday Show? ["Velvet And In Onions" ] The Cultural Phenomenon That's Sweeping The Nation [steve ] Re: Re: Forward into the past [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Birthday Show? [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Birthday Show? ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Birthday Show? [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Birthday Show? [ashleyn@lineone.net] Re: Birthday Show! ["Velvet And In Onions" ] Re: Birthday Show? ["matt sewell" ] 50th! ["Velvet And In Onions" ] Re: Birthday Show? [Michael R Godwin ] Short Story: Narcissus ["Velvet And In Onions" ] Re: My blood says 'Take this Tartar woman'! [Michael R Godwin Subject: Birthday show? Any details on the birthday show? It is tonight, correct? Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:58:10 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: stuck on the brain >> Ever since the Grammys, I can't get that damn Norah Jones song out of >> my head. The entire thing only has about three lines of melody, but >> it's STUCK inside me! Usually I can "cure" myself once I figure out a >> song on keyboard, but this one keeps on nagging at me anyway.... Bleh. I've used that technique with guitar patterns before (I oncw went about three days with the guitar riff from "Pleasant valley Sunday" on the brain before I cured it by working it out on guitar). >i heard something about "stuck song syndrome" (yeah, they have supposedly >people or scientists actually researching and stuff on this) and i think >you're supposed to hum "the girl from ipanema"... but DONT SING IT or it >will be stuck in your head forever too. well, anyways, it's a good song so i >wouldn't mind having it stuck in my head.... but that's just me :-) some songs are really bad as far as getting on high mental rotate. The intro to Bittersweet Symphony is one of the worst, and Mahna-mahna by the Muppets is probably worse still. I find the best thing to do with one of these songs is (if possible) physically listen to the song right through until the end. If the ending sticks it will often break the cycle. Trouble is, it doesn't work so well with songs that just fade out, but it works a treat with the ba-da-dum...cha! ending of Mahna-mahna. >> i heard something about "stuck song syndrome" (yeah, they have supposedly >> people or scientists actually researching and stuff on this) > >sorry, i meant "yeah, they supposedly have people or scientists..." i had >re-read my post and realized that i kind of said that the people researching >are supposedly human...... eesh it still suggests that scientists aren't people. In that you're wrong. Scientists ARE people - it's politicians who aren't. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:49:54 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: You'll Have To Let The Old World Go Quoting The Mammal Brain : > > it's not just hiroshima and nagasaki and bush's "idiotic comments". it's > vietnam, korea, the first gulf war, the balkans, afghanistan, and > colombia > (and many more) as well. unless you don't consider depleted uranium a > "weapon of mass destruction". unless you don't consider agent orange and > napalm and "agent green" (the fumigation agent currently being used to > destroy colombia's peasantry) chemical weapons. unless you don't > consider > the destruction of civilian infrastructure biological warfare. the u.s. is > in its own universe when it comes to "irresponsibly" using WMDs. it's > difficult for me to imagine that anybody could even conceive of the > *possibility* of it being otherwise. Not to mention the grossly negligent testing of nukes in the western US, which has led to large areas being essentially uninhabitable, and to massively out of whack incidences of cancer, etc. (See ch. 2 of Mike Davis's _Dead Cities_.) Or such atrocities as MK-ULTRA (http://earthops.org/mk_ultra.html), or (outside of the military as such) the Tuskegee Syphilis experiments (http://hsc.virginia.edu/hs-library/historical/apology/). ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: Some days, you just can't get rid of a bomb :: --Batman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 21:47:01 -0500 From: noam tchotchke Subject: Re: 2001 tour set lists? one time at band camp, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey said: >I'm hoping some obsessive fan will have setlists of the shows on the 2001 >tour... Anyone? Bueller? http://fegmania.org/gigs.html#2001 it's not quite complete, but close. i have the missing setlists somewhere (assuming they were not lost in the big bad disk crash of last summer) but they should be in the archives somewhere. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 23:11:07 -0500 From: Sabina Carlson Subject: correction to a correction of a correction me: > >> i heard something about "stuck song syndrome" (yeah, they have supposedly > >> people or scientists actually researching and stuff on this) > > > >sorry, i meant "yeah, they supposedly have people or scientists..." i had > >re-read my post and realized that i kind of said that the people researching > >are supposedly human...... eesh james: > it still suggests that scientists aren't people. In that you're wrong. > Scientists ARE people - it's politicians who aren't. > ah again i am too spaced out to realize what the hell i am saying. i should have reversed and said scientists or people, meaning scientists or just ordinary, curious people. arg well thanks for making a correction to my correction! i will try to make sure i am at least sane enough to write before typing any more e-mails... and it's only a poisonous plant, sabina sheena ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:16:29 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: correction to a correction of a correction on 3/2/03 8:11 PM, Sabina Carlson at sheenaramona@comcast.net wrote: > i will try to make sure i am at least sane enough to write > before typing any more e-mails... That would surely put you in the minority on this list! btw, we're all wondering what kind of grade your friends got with their reading of "I Wish I Liked You"... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:38:33 -0800 From: Eb Subject: That article Kellaris said he has also heard a "folkloric" recommendation of chewing on cinnamon sticks to rid the brain of a sticky song. "Some people swear that will unstick a stuck tune," he said. - ----- Oh bruuuuuuther. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:14:48 -0500 From: "Velvet And In Onions" Subject: Re: Birthday Show? Yeah! Happy Birthday Robyn! 50's not old... For a tree! - -- Can't wait to hear about the show. Nuppy! Quoting Maximilian Lang : >Any details on the birthday show? It is tonight, correct? > > Max > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:45:47 -0600 From: steve Subject: The Cultural Phenomenon That's Sweeping The Nation But Eb won't like it, 'cause Spike looks too much like Scott Miller. http://www.sonypictures.com/cthe/cowboybebop/ - - Steve __________ I know from first-hand experience that a president acting secretly usually does not have the best interests of Americans in mind. Rather, it is his own personal interests that are at stake. - John Dean, on George W. Bush ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:04:43 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: The Cultural Phenomenon That's Sweeping The Nation >But Eb won't like it, 'cause Spike looks too much like Scott Miller. > >http://www.sonypictures.com/cthe/cowboybebop/ Jeez...I'm surprised at you, Steve. I never would have pegged you as someone who would post a quick line, just to pass on an animation-related URL. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:11:23 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: stuck on the brain At 1:58 PM +1300 3/3/03, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves "James Dignan" and whispered: >it still suggests that scientists aren't people. In that you're wrong. >Scientists ARE people - We'll see what you think about that once I have loosed my hideous creation upon this unsuspecting world! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHaaaaaaaaa Mike - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:45:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Beatles (1.5% RH) Happy Birthday Robyn! I saw Robyn's 40th birthday show. he opened for the Barenaked Ladies doing a solo gig in Buffalo, NY. Someday I'll find my tape of that show. I just saw that the Beatles are rereleasing the Anthology program on DVD on April 1,2003. 5 Discs 4 (for the shows) and 1 extra one.... found it on amazon.com. I guess my laserdiscs are now truly obsolete :( http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008GKEG/ref=dp_media_cp_dp_d/103-5702401-3483026?v=glance&s=dvd Herbie np -> "Paranoid Android" Radiohead ===== - --------------------------------------------- Agnes Skinner: Seymour! Are you looking at naked ladies? Principal Skinner: No, mother! Agnes:"You sissy! http://www.hootisland.com/text/news/021703.shtml _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:43:21 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Re: Forward into the past - -- Miles Goosens is rumored to have mumbled on Samstag, 1. Mdrz 2003 10:24 Uhr -0600 regarding Re: Re: Forward into the past: > That being said, sure you're not confusing this with Yaz' "Situation," > which is a first-rate Vince Clarke concoction? I just learned that Yazoo called themselves Yaz in the US. Does anybody know the story behind that? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 04:20:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Yaz[oo] Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I just learned that Yazoo called themselves Yaz in the US. Does > anybody know the story behind that? Yazoo was/is the name of a blues label, so Vince and Alison had to shorten to Yaz, ostensibly to avoid confusion, just like a lot of band have to add UK to the end, or The Beat had to become The English Beat, Sued became The London Suede, etc. ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 12:13:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Birthday Show? On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Velvet And In Onions wrote: > Can't wait to hear about the show. > Nuppy! I can only provide a setlist up to the first encore as I had to sprint for the last train to Bath: _Solo_ Ghost Ship - very good, hadn't heard it before. Drowned sailors abounding. I got the hots Arms of love I'm only you Chinese bones _Enter Tim_ Queen Elvis _Enter Chris Cox_ I saw Nick Drake _Enter Kimberley Rew_ I feel beautiful _Enter Deni Bonet, John Paul Jones, Peter Blegvad, Morris Windsor_ De Chirico Street Open the Door Richard _Interval_ _Enter Robyn, Peter Blegvad, John Paul Jones_ Fly by night (Blegvad) Ice fishing (John Paul Jones + Peter Blegvad) _Enter Kim_ Sally was a legend _Exit Blegvad and Jones_ IODOT (highlight of the evening, needless to say) _Enter miscellaneous people (I lost track here) She doesn't exist any more Dark Princess (highlight of the evening among songs I'm less keen on) America (with anti-Bushies intro) Madonna of the Wasps Balloon Man Jewels for Sophia _End of set_ Alan Rickman reads an extract from Robyn (from the novella, perchance?) _Encores_ She said she said (Morris, Peter Blegvad and Robyn on harmonies) A man's got to know his limitations, Briggs They were obviously gearing up for more encores but I had to split (it's an old-fashioned way to say goodbye). Tim played acoustic guitar and percussion, JPJ played mandolin, piano and bass guitar, Peter Blegvad played guitar, Chris Cox played double bass and mandolin, others played their normal instruments. More later. - - Xipe the Flayed God (Actually it's me, Mike Godwin, o d'd on too much pulque and aztecobilia...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 08:17:10 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Birthday Show? >From: Michael R Godwin >Alan Rickman reads an extract from Robyn (from the novella, perchance?) Funny, wasn't he the consensus pick to play Robyn in the fabled Feg Movie? Max _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 13:59:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Birthday Show? > >From: Michael R Godwin > >Alan Rickman reads an extract from Robyn (from the novella, perchance?) On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Funny, wasn't he the consensus pick to play Robyn in the fabled Feg Movie? I hope someone got a recording. Alan made a couple of amusing remarks about how he was unable to handle a reading from Captain Beefheart which Robyn had suggested, and then he read quite a long Hitchcock piece about life flowing through things and then running dry, but (a) I was near the back and (b) my hearing aid was playing up, so I missed most of the nuances. I had hoped to astound everyone by mentioning that I spotted Rickman in the audience, but when he got up on stage of course the whole audience saw him. Others observed in the crowd included JT, Susan Even, crowbar joe, Tony Blackman, Marc Holden (hi Marc!), Mark Ellen, several people in polka dot shirts, but for some reason not matt - where were you, matt? I looked and looked; maybe the beard deceived me ... To tell the truth I found the show a wee bit desolate. Robyn was in full-scale death trip mode and I had spent the afternoon studying Aztec methods of human sacrifice ["... select obsidian knife K decorated with face and teeth, slice flesh along A-B, connect to incision at Z, and extract heart whilst still beating. Deposit heart on chacmool M, then flay skin along dotted line X-Y. If flayed skin smells too bad, make sure that the Skin Depository Jar D is fully locked by twisting flange C. IMPORTANT: the sacrifice must still be alive at this stage, or the sun will refuse to rise tomorrow..."]. Anyway, what I'm driving at is that I could have coped with a bit more light relief, and the show wasn't exactly a laugh a minute. I can't really grumble about the omission of any specific number when I don't know what all the encores were, but my impression was that he was actively avoiding Soft Boys material. Maybe he played Kingdom of Love or Only the Stones Remain or Insanely Jealous at the end? - - Huitzilipochtli Godwin n.p. Penelope's Angles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:03:39 +0000 From: ashleyn@lineone.net Subject: Re: Birthday Show? He finished off with Speed of things and then I like Bananas There was also a free CD on the seats called Luxor Not had chance to spin it yet Great night Wished he's played Guilford though (as in the song, not the town hall...) > >On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Velvet And In Onions wrote: > > Can't wait to hear about the show. > > Nuppy! > >I can only provide a setlist up to the first encore as I had to sprint for >the last train to Bath: > >_Solo_ >Ghost Ship - very good, hadn't heard it before. Drowned sailors abounding. >I got the hots >Arms of love >I'm only you >Chinese bones > >_Enter Tim_ >Queen Elvis > >_Enter Chris Cox_ >I saw Nick Drake > >_Enter Kimberley Rew_ >I feel beautiful > >_Enter Deni Bonet, John Paul Jones, Peter Blegvad, Morris Windsor_ >De Chirico Street >Open the Door Richard > >_Interval_ > >_Enter Robyn, Peter Blegvad, John Paul Jones_ >Fly by night (Blegvad) >Ice fishing (John Paul Jones + Peter Blegvad) > >_Enter Kim_ >Sally was a legend > >_Exit Blegvad and Jones_ >IODOT (highlight of the evening, needless to say) > >_Enter miscellaneous people (I lost track here) >She doesn't exist any more >Dark Princess (highlight of the evening among songs I'm less keen on) >America (with anti-Bushies intro) >Madonna of the Wasps >Balloon Man >Jewels for Sophia > >_End of set_ > >Alan Rickman reads an extract from Robyn (from the novella, perchance?) > >_Encores_ >She said she said (Morris, Peter Blegvad and Robyn on harmonies) >A man's got to know his limitations, Briggs > >They were obviously gearing up for more encores but I had to split (it's >an old-fashioned way to say goodbye). > >Tim played acoustic guitar and percussion, JPJ played mandolin, piano and >bass guitar, Peter Blegvad played guitar, Chris Cox played double bass and >mandolin, others played their normal instruments. More later. > > >- Xipe the Flayed God > >(Actually it's me, Mike Godwin, o d'd on too much pulque and >aztecobilia...) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:15:15 -0500 From: "Velvet And In Onions" Subject: Re: Birthday Show! Thanks Mike! What about the Luxor cd? I can't wait to hear about it! Sounds like a great show. I hope someone recorded it! So, I have to admit, I was really hoping Andy Metcalfe would make an appearance. That would've been a treat! And no Matthew Seligman????! Nuppy On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Velvet And In Onions wrote: >Can't wait to hear about the show. >Nuppy! I can only provide a setlist up to the first encore as I had to sprint for the last train to Bath: _Solo_ Ghost Ship - very good, hadn't heard it before. Drowned sailors abounding. I got the hots Arms of love I'm only you Chinese bones _Enter Tim_ Queen Elvis _Enter Chris Cox_ I saw Nick Drake _Enter Kimberley Rew_ I feel beautiful _Enter Deni Bonet, John Paul Jones, Peter Blegvad, Morris Windsor_ De Chirico Street Open the Door Richard _Interval_ _Enter Robyn, Peter Blegvad, John Paul Jones_ Fly by night (Blegvad) Ice fishing (John Paul Jones + Peter Blegvad) _Enter Kim_ Sally was a legend _Exit Blegvad and Jones_ IODOT (highlight of the evening, needless to say) _Enter miscellaneous people (I lost track here) She doesn't exist any more Dark Princess (highlight of the evening among songs I'm less keen on) America (with anti-Bushies intro) Madonna of the Wasps Balloon Man Jewels for Sophia _End of set_ Alan Rickman reads an extract from Robyn (from the novella, perchance?) _Encores_ She said she said (Morris, Peter Blegvad and Robyn on harmonies) A man's got to know his limitations, Briggs They were obviously gearing up for more encores but I had to split (it's an old-fashioned way to say goodbye). Tim played acoustic guitar and percussion, JPJ played mandolin, piano and bass guitar, Peter Blegvad played guitar, Chris Cox played double bass and mandolin, others played their normal instruments. More later. - - Xipe the Flayed God (Actually it's me, Mike Godwin, o d'd on too much pulque and aztecobilia...) _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:21:16 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Birthday Show? Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your point of view) I don't have long enough to do a drawn out post mortem (I guess I'll just plunge a knife in and pull out the still-beating heart), but on the whole I agree with Mike, though I do think that towards the end there was a tremendous warmth about the proceedings (Alan Rickman reading Robyn's poem notwithstanding). Perhaps it didn't reach to the back. On that point I have a confession to make: having spent the first half right at the back, Chrissy and I decided to go in search of better seating - found a whole block of about 16 right at the front, so brazenly sat down there - found out a little later this was the area reserved for performers etc... oops... still, very glad we did this - much better view and vibe at the front. I think the beard must have obscured me from you Mike - it's turning into a monster, though I'm planning to shave it as soon as most people I know have seen it! As for the final encores, I'm racking my brains but I just can't think... aha - I Like Bananas and finishing with... finishing with... erm... no, it's gone... There really wasn't enough time to hang out with ye fegs, I'm starting to think we'll all have to meet up at some kind of non-RH event (prob. in London, though preferably in Oxford)? Cheers Matt, thoroughly bearded >From: Michael R Godwin >I hope someone got a recording. Alan made a couple of amusing remarks >about how he was unable to handle a reading from Captain Beefheart which >Robyn had suggested, and then he read quite a long Hitchcock piece about >life flowing through things and then running dry, but (a) I was near the >back and (b) my hearing aid was playing up, so I missed most of the >nuances. Others observed in the crowd included JT, Susan Even, crowbar joe, >Tony Blackman, Marc Holden (hi Marc!), Mark Ellen, several people in polka >dot shirts, but for some reason not matt - where were you, matt? I looked >and looked; maybe the beard deceived me ... > >To tell the truth I found the show a wee bit desolate. Robyn was in >full-scale death trip mode and I had spent the afternoon studying Aztec >methods of human - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Overloaded with spam? With MSN 8 you can filter it out ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:04:31 -0500 From: "Velvet And In Onions" Subject: 50th! Check out what the yahoo Robyn Hitchcock club did for our man: http://www.theos-place.com/RHC_BDay_Project/Gallery.htm Pretty cool. Good work Theo! Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 15:28:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Birthday Show? On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, matt sewell wrote: > I think the beard must have obscured me from you Mike - it's turning into > a monster, though I'm planning to shave it as soon as most people I know > have seen it! Yes, I saw someone with an enormous fungoid growth sneaking forwards. I just thought "No, not with a beard that size"... > As for the final encores, I'm racking my brains but I just can't think... > aha - I Like Bananas and finishing with... finishing with... erm... no, > it's gone... ashleyn mentioned "Speed of things". That really would have finished me off - glad I missed it. Would've liked to hear "Bananas", however. > There really wasn't enough time to hang out with ye fegs, I'm starting to > think we'll all have to meet up at some kind of non-RH event (prob. in > London, though preferably in Oxford)? Oxford sounds sensible to me. Better rush before they cut the direct train service from Bristol. Otherwise I'll have to celebrate on my own at Didcot Parkway ... - - Tezcatlipoca the Smoking Mirror PS Remember that PG Wodehouse story where two baronets start growing moustaches competitively? One of the moustaches is called "Joyeuse", and the other is "Love in idleness". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:36:43 -0500 From: "Velvet And In Onions" Subject: Short Story: Narcissus Don't know if this link was posted. Sorry if it was: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/biblio?inkey=62-156025453x-0 Looks like the book is available this month. Nuppy _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:07:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: My blood says 'Take this Tartar woman'! On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Not to mention the grossly negligent testing of nukes in the western US, > which has led to large areas being essentially uninhabitable, and to > massively out of whack incidences of cancer, etc. (See ch. 2 of Mike Davis's > _Dead Cities_.) I had the misfortune to see "The Conqueror" starring John Wayne as Genghis Khan recently ("I see Genghis as a gunfighter" - JW). I think post-atom bomb test Utah was standing in for the Mongolian steppes, and apparently many of the cast and crew eventually died of cancer. http://us.imdb.com/Trivia?0049092 - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 09:04:45 -0800 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: gnatmaniax and other subjects - questions and answers Q. So, Nat, I heard you went to see Death Cab for Cutie on Saturday night. I thought you hated them! You reviewed their album for WCBN and wrote "BORING INDIE ROCK" across it. What gives? A. Some friends of mine were visiting from out of town, and one guy really wanted me to go with them to the show, so he paid my way. (He's English and clearly didn't know the value - such as it is - of American money.) I couldn't turn that down. And you know what? I really enjoyed the show! The opening band, the Thermals (featuring former Minders drummer/Steven Malkmus lookalike Hutch Harris) weren't so great, though. But as soon as Death Cab started playing, I found myself doing the "Natalie dance." Anyone who's been to a show with me has witnessed this - it involves a lot of vigorous head-nodding and bobbing from the knees, with occasional lateral motion of the hips. Death Cab do sweet-natured, somewhat melancholy indie rock, not nearly as boring as I remember, and the singer has a pleasant boyish sad-sounding voice. I probably wouldn't buy an album by them, but live, they were pretty darn good. The crowd was a pleasant respite after the awful Interpol crowd - they were very happy and enthusiastic and well-behaved. Nice emo kids. Q. Well, that sounds like fun. It's good to give bands a second chance, eh? Have you given the Minus 5 a second chance? A. Not yet, but I brought the CD with me to work today. I think I was a little hard on poor Scott. And I think maybe I should see them live after all, it might change my mind. Q. So, Nat, is it true that you're Jeff Tweedy's bitch? A. I wish! Speaking of which, the Loose Fur album is great. Three Tweedy songs, two Jim O'Rourke songs, one instrumental. It has a really relaxed feeling to it, with just the right amount of "jamming" - ugh, the J word, but really, it's very nice stuff. Hottie Wilco drummer Glenn Kotche supplies complex rhythms and weird little percussion touches. Tweedy's "Chinese Apple," the final track, is stunningly gorgeous, at least as good as anything on YHF if not better. My only gripe with the album is that it's not longer. But I hear there's another Loose Fur album on the way, so that's a good thing. Q. What else have you been listening to, Nat? A. I've been catching up with stuff from 2002. I was just listening to Neko Case's "Blacklisted" this morning. Man, can that gal sing! I would kill to have a voice like hers. Great songs, too. Another big favorite of mine is Iron & Wine's "The Creek Drank the Cradle." It's really just one guy, Sam Beam. Imagine if Nick Drake had been raised in South Carolina - Beam has a similar soft voice, and adds country and blues touches to his folky sound. The lyrics are beautiful. I also just bought Spoon's "Kill the Moonlight." Britt Daniel sounds so sexy.... mmmm.... I like the spareness of the instrumentation and the smart, snappy tunes. Q. Well, I guess that's it. Are you going to get back to work now? A. Probably not. n. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #82 *******************************