From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #52 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 13 2003 Volume 12 : Number 052 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: apropos of nothing [Ken Weingold ] Re: Formerly Velvets, Formerly Special [hamish_simpson@agilent.com] RE: apropos of nothing [Catherine Simpson ] RE: apropos of nothing [Marcy Tanter ] Re: apropos of nothing [Ken Weingold ] philly feg #2 [Thomas Rodebaugh ] Spencer Kelley [brian@lazerlove5.com] RE: apropos of nothing ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: apropos of nothing [Ken Weingold ] Re-Covered Memories ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Re-Covered Memories ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Drake-O-Rama ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: apropos of nothing ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: apropos of nothing [Tom Clark ] Re: Drake-O-Rama [Steve Talkowski ] Jill Sobule appearance [The Great Quail ] RE: apropos of nothing ["Timothy Reed" ] RE: apropos of nothing [gSs ] re: apropos of nothing [Christopher Gross ] Re: apropos of nothing [Ken Weingold ] Re: apropos of nothing [Steve Talkowski ] Re: apropos of nothing [John Barrington Jones ] Re: apropos of nothing [Eb ] Re: apropos of nothing [Caroline Smith ] Re: apropos of nothing [Caroline Smith ] Re: apropos of nothing [Sebastian Hagedorn ] The Tom Jones Version Of Kiss Memorial Award... [crowbar.joe@btopenworld] [subject here] ["ross taylor" ] Re: apropos of nothing [Eleanore Adams ] Re: ipodpro of nothing [Tom Clark ] Re: Oscar bitching/Drake note [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:43:38 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Thu, Feb 13, 2003, Marcy Tanter wrote: > Are you guys around the continents feeling the panic in the air that Shrub > is causing? People are going nuts. On the Dallas news last night, they > showed people wrapping their houses in plastic and stocking up on > water. It's like being in the twilight zone! Wonderful. I guess the "terrorists" are being really effective then. People are "terrorized". - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:48:33 -0700 From: hamish_simpson@agilent.com Subject: Re: Formerly Velvets, Formerly Special >* It wasn't until I read the Bockris bio that I realised quite how >unpleasant Lou is. I think the account of how he drove Cale out of the >reformed Velvets has contributed to putting me off listening to his >recent stuff. Just to add my (extremely late) 2 cents to this, I was at the first reunion show in Edinburgh (that was my idea) and one thing that struck me was what a cunt Lou was. He made it look like the rest of the band were superficial to the whole event and it was his show. Personally I wouldn't have gone if it hadn't been the Velvets. At one point he actually stopped a song a few bars in 'cos Sterling had gotten it wrong and basically announced as much to the audience. Sterling had looked uncomfortable before that. Needless to say it didn't relax him much! Have to say I like a lot of Lou's earlier solo stuff, including Rock'n'Roll Heart which was rarely off my turntable for a while. The last time I listened to him voluntarily was when I chose to not change channels during a car commercial!!!! (H) n.p. - Wiseguys "The Antidote" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:48:55 -0800 From: Catherine Simpson Subject: RE: apropos of nothing Do you think it's generational? For instance, I'm flying from Los Angeles to London next month, and though I'm perhaps a bit more trepidatious about it than I would have been prior to 9/11/01, I'm not exactly "terrorized". My mother, on the other hand, is convinced I'm going to die. All my 20- and 30-something friends think it's great, my 40+ friends think I'm stupid for flying internationally right now (mind you, I'm 38 and perfectly capable of travelling alone). What do you think? - - Cianne - -----Original Message----- From: Ken Weingold [mailto:hazmat@hellrot.org] Wonderful. I guess the "terrorists" are being really effective then. People are "terrorized". - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:51:57 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: RE: apropos of nothing At 08:48 AM 2/13/2003 -0800, Catherine Simpson wrote: >Do you think it's generational? For instance, I'm flying from Los Angeles to >London next month, and though I'm perhaps a bit more trepidatious about it >than I would have been prior to 9/11/01, I'm not exactly "terrorized". My >mother, on the other hand, is convinced I'm going to die. All my 20- and >30-something friends think it's great, my 40+ friends think I'm stupid for >flying internationally right now (mind you, I'm 38 and perfectly capable of >travelling alone). > >What do you think? I think you have a greater chance of being hit by a car when you leave home to drive to the airport than you do being hit by anything from a terrorist! Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:53:59 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Thu, Feb 13, 2003, Catherine Simpson wrote: > Do you think it's generational? For instance, I'm flying from Los Angeles to > London next month, and though I'm perhaps a bit more trepidatious about it > than I would have been prior to 9/11/01, I'm not exactly "terrorized". My > mother, on the other hand, is convinced I'm going to die. All my 20- and > 30-something friends think it's great, my 40+ friends think I'm stupid for > flying internationally right now (mind you, I'm 38 and perfectly capable of > travelling alone). > > What do you think? You may be right. I'm 30, and most of my friends and I all seem to be going about our normal activities. Of course everyone has the possible upcoming attacks in mind, but I don't let it stop me from doing anything, and would definitely fly if I had the need or opportunity. My mother, on the other hand, seems to comment on it often and seems to always be worried. So you may be right. Not sure. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: philly feg #2 hi max, all, sad to see kay go--but i can assure you there's another philly feg, albeit at primarily lurking one. . . . also wishing i understood what slade has to do with the song, exactly. . . tom *************************** *Tom Rodebaugh * *Graduate Student, UNC-CH * *tlr3@email.unc.edu * *************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:26:48 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Spencer Kelley Does anyone know Spencer's email address? I need to contact him. Please let me know off list. Thanks! Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:26:32 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: RE: apropos of nothing Catherine Simpson wrote: > > What do you think? I think it's just the media scaring up ratings. I am so glad we don't have a TV, and seldom listen to the radio. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 12:37:55 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Thu, Feb 13, 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > I think it's just the media scaring up ratings. > I am so glad we don't have a TV, and seldom listen > to the radio. Right now in NYC we don't need a TV. Just look around. Police activity all over the place. A lot in particular today around where I work. I think it's because of the NYSE, which is a few blocks from here. I'm sporatically seen military vehicles around there too, including those Humvees with those anti-aircraft missiles. And military with machine guns. Eerie. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:51:12 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Re-Covered Memories Crowbar Joe: >>What with everyone enthusing about John Cale I'm surprised no-one's >>mentioned that The Soft Boys 'borrowed' his excellent arrangement of >>Heartbreak Hotel. Coupla interesting things about that... one being that Cale and his band created that version instrumentally not intending it to be a cover of anything, and then in a fit of inspiraton/writer's block, Cale grafted the lyrics to "Heartbreak Hotel" onto it. I guess after that he was too tired to smother the busboy with pus, and that had to wait until Robyn got ahold of it. Second thing, it's an example of an interesting phenomenon, the "cover of a cover". There's another one in Robyn's oeuvre, "Bells of Rhymney", and certainly the Byrds version of "Mr. Tambourine Man" must be one of the most frequently covered covers this side of ancient blues tunes. And we just (ahem) covered the ubquity of the Hendrix "Hey Joe". But it happens for other reasons-- Camper Van Beethoven learned "I'm Not Like Everybody Else" from the Chocolate Watchband version, but only because they couldn't find their copy of the original. Can't think of any examples, but I think this occasionally happens through sheer ignorance. I've met more than a few people who believe "Alone Again Or" is an original by the Damned... musta been a goth band or two who covered it firnly believing that to be the case. And a college band or two who did the famous REM tunes "Superman", "Strange" and "Crazy". It all goes to the question of when an artist so puts his/her stamp on a song as to make it "their own". Answer seems to largely be, "when they're selling hells more records than the original artist". >>The other had a headline asking Whatever Happened To The American Left...' >>(ducks) No reason to duck... don't you think we're more pissed off about it than you? ___ Jeffrey: >>np: some obscure Marmoset mp3 Is this a band or are you listening to actual marmoset noises? 'Cuz damn, that *would* be obscure. - -Rex np: sound effects of crab being simultaneously sawed in half and sucked into pipe (self-produced because someone had to) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:41:57 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Re-Covered Memories Rex Broome wrote: > > Is this a band or are you listening to actual > marmoset noises? 'Cuz damn, > that *would* be obscure. No worse than "The Sounds of the International Phonetic Alphabet" , which I'm afraid passed for party music amongst the dictionary crowd. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:04:28 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Drake-O-Rama Marshall: >>I don't know many people who could do any of ND's songs all that >>well...Lucinda Williams's version of "Which Will" is pretty good though. Has there ever been a Drake "tribute" album? And even if there has, aren't we doomed by that Volkswagon commercial to a second, less "indie" one pretty soon (see the two Parsons tributes for reference)? I know there was one in the works-- I remember reading about Pete Buck and Richard Butler working on a version of "Pink Moon"-- but I don't think I remember it actually coming out. Sebadoh's version of "Pink Moon" was... interesting. Not what I woulda done to "rock it up" but they did it way long ago, before the Nick-a-palooza of recent years, so mad props for that. Also, that wacky piano hipster Brad Mehldau has done a bunch of Drake tunes, sans vocals, to go with his Radiohead covers. And, um, was it (non-ugly) Norah Jones doing the guest vocal on "Day is Done" on somebody's jazz record? Answer: yes, and it was Charlie Hunter's record, and she also does "More Than This", but I didn't wanna act like I knew that without looking it up. Any way, I've heard it and it is also... interesting. - -Rex "what was the plan for Lilac Time, anyway?" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:15:15 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: apropos of nothing At 10:34 AM 2/13/2003 -0600, Marcy Tanter wrote: >Are you guys around the continents feeling the panic in the air that Shrub >is causing? People are going nuts. On the Dallas news last night, they >showed people wrapping their houses in plastic and stocking up on >water. It's like being in the twilight zone! I haven't heard of anyone doing anything like that in my area. People round these parts are probably more worried about that North Korean ICBM, if even that. Actually, I'm more concerned about a young US fighter pilot screwing up and slamming a jet or helicopter into my house, given the increase in activity overhead. However, I'm heading to Dallas this weekend. I was talking to one of my friends there, and she was unexpectedly in a frenzy about the whole "plastic, duct tape and bottled water" thing. I wonder if the Texas media is just playing it up more... Or maybe I've just been avoiding more TV lately, what with all the Kurosawa films showing locally. Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 11:29:26 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: apropos of nothing on 2/13/03 9:26 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@sympatico.ca wrote: > Catherine Simpson wrote: >> >> What do you think? > > I think it's just the media scaring up ratings. > I am so glad we don't have a TV, and seldom listen > to the radio. > Yesterday's Doonesbury pretty much summed it up: http://www.uclick.com/client/mwy/db/2003/02/12/index.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:37:58 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Drake-O-Rama On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Rex.Broome wrote: > I know there was one in the works-- I remember reading about Pete Buck > and > Richard Butler working on a version of "Pink Moon"-- but I don't think > I > remember it actually coming out. Interesting side note - there's a very good chance I'll be working with the DP (Lance Accord) who shot that beautiful VW spot which featured "Pink Moon" (which rejuvenated the whole Nick Drake phenomenon). - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:14:41 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Jill Sobule appearance Jill Sobule was on "The West Wing" last night. A few of the Presidential crew were having drinks at a DC lounge, and our girl was playing solo on the stage. - --The Great "Bartlett in 04" Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:26:45 -0500 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: apropos of nothing I'll second all the noise in NY. The papers here have been detailing the doomsday kit that all good New Yorkers should have - plastic wrap, duct tape, canned food, etc. A friend of my mother has her own: a bottle of Stoli, a bottle of Jack, and an ounce of pot. When the dirty bomb hits, she's going outside and take a deep breath. Tim /but I thought you needed at least a three day supply > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Ken Weingold > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 12:38 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: apropos of nothing > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > I think it's just the media scaring up ratings. > > I am so glad we don't have a TV, and seldom listen > > to the radio. > > Right now in NYC we don't need a TV. Just look around. > Police activity all over the place. A lot in particular > today around where I work. I think it's because of the NYSE, > which is a few blocks from here. I'm sporatically seen > military vehicles around there too, including those Humvees > with those anti-aircraft missiles. And military with machine > guns. Eerie. > > > -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:48:42 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: RE: apropos of nothing On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Timothy Reed wrote: > I'll second all the noise in NY. The papers here have been detailing > the doomsday kit that all good New Yorkers should have - plastic wrap, > duct tape, canned food, etc. A friend of my mother has her own: a > bottle of Stoli, a bottle of Jack, and an ounce of pot. When the dirty > bomb hits, she's going outside and take a deep breath. the duct tape and plastic wrap is for the bodies, right? i recommend two ounces of pot, a box of zig-zag supers and a few packs of lefties. and needle and thread. and 5 mini-bics, 8 gallons of white grape juice plus a soft bed and a few cups. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:02:53 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: re: apropos of nothing You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island Discs. "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing when or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your way out the door?" Thinking about an answer, Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:05:39 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Thu, Feb 13, 2003, Christopher Gross wrote: > You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island Discs. > "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing when > or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your way > out the door?" That's easy: my 20 gig iPod. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:16:05 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island > Discs. > "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing > when > or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your > way > out the door?" That's easy - all the ones on my iPod! ; ) (well, until the 10 hour battery wears out...) Seriously though, people in middle America need to take a chill pill - it's those of us in major cities (especially ones that already have been hit) that have a legit concern. Of course, if the terrorists REALLY wanted to shake things up, the could hit Idaho. Still taking the subway here in NYC, - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:23:47 -0800 (PST) From: John Barrington Jones Subject: Re: apropos of nothing Who is getting 10 full hours out of their iPod? I need to know. I get 5 or 6 on a _good_ day. =jbj= On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Steve Talkowski wrote: > On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island > > Discs. > > "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing > > when > > or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your > > way > > out the door?" > > That's easy - all the ones on my iPod! ; ) (well, until the 10 hour > battery wears out...) > > Seriously though, people in middle America need to take a chill pill - > it's those of us in major cities (especially ones that already have > been hit) that have a legit concern. > > Of course, if the terrorists REALLY wanted to shake things up, the > could hit Idaho. > > Still taking the subway here in NYC, > > -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 13:27:21 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: apropos of nothing This subject line is SO damn repressed and dainty...bleh. Sounds like it was written by David Hyde Pierce. ;) Guess who I saw perform last night, for the first time in a year and a half or so? Amy Correia, who's back in town for 10 days. After seeing her several times circa her past album, I became increasingly concerned about the almost totally static setlist. Made me concerned whether THESE are her songs, and they're all she'll ever produce. Not so, last night. I think she only played two songs off her album. Otherwise, all new stuff. Or older castoffs. No covers. I saw her at a nice little bar/cafe (pitiful name: "The Hotel Cafe"), which I've never visited before. Admission was a measly $6, and about 50 people were there. Most of them were friends, I think. Oh yes, this was BIG TIME. :) Really liked new songs called "Coney Island USA" and "Stranded," among others. The wistful graininess of her voice is still incredibly evocative. She also played *piano* for one song, which was a surprise twist. She seemed a bit rusty as a performer, and her guitar-playing was very rough. Sometimes, it seemed like she was struggling to remember the chords on the spot. She seemed pretty nervous, and was babbling a bit and chatting up various friends in the front. But, all was forgiven. Also had an interesting encounter with one David Ralicke, there at the bar. He has played horns and things with Beck for a few years now. The funny thing is: I was in *high-school band* with this guy for two years!! Both marching band and concert band. Hadn't ever talked to him, since then. He was older than me and in a different section, but we loosely knew each other because the band was extremely hardcore and everyone spent a lot of time together. He didn't recognize my face last night (no surprise), but when I said "I have two words for you: [the psychotic band director's name]," he froze for a moment and then laughed *convulsively* for what seemed like minutes. Heh. We had a fun chat, and he gave me his card and all. And he did remember me, once I gave my name and instrument. He mentioned touring with Natalie Merchant too...didn't know about that until now. He was a bit drunk. :) After the show, I ended up in the bar next-door with Amy, her manager and few other friends of hers. Also fun. Had a bit of "real" conversation in there, about serious things. When things finally wound down, I got a nice picture snapped of us together with my new digital camera. I'll hang onto that one for awhile. Lots of rain yesterday...I was glad it died down a bit for my drives to and from the show. Babble, Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:34:10 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: apropos of nothing > At 10:34 AM 2/13/2003 -0600, Marcy Tanter wrote: > >> Are you guys around the continents feeling the panic in the air that >> Shrub is causing? People are going nuts. On the Dallas news last >> night, they showed people wrapping their houses in plastic and >> stocking up on water. It's like being in the twilight zone! >> ah yes.... when i picked up my morning newspaper here in Toronto I was greeted with: "TRIPLE CRISIS FUELS ALARM IN US" eesh, you guys are really in up to your eyebrows! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:36:21 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: apropos of nothing > On Thu, Feb 13, 2003, Christopher Gross wrote: >> You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island >> Discs. >> "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing >> when >> or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your >> way >> out the door?" > > That's easy: my 20 gig iPod. > I can imagine the newest iPod advertising already... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 22:54:50 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: apropos of nothing - -- John Barrington Jones is rumored to have mumbled on Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2003 13:23 Uhr -0800 regarding Re: apropos of nothing: > Who is getting 10 full hours out of their iPod? I need to know. > > I get 5 or 6 on a _good_ day. I had mine replaced because of battery issues. The replacement seems to work much better, for now. Apple over here was very quick: I had it back within three days. I actually bought mine (an original 5 GB model) used from a friend, but that didn't matter. My 5 GB are full now and I guess I might consider upgrading when they come out with a 40 GB model. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:59:27 +0000 (GMT) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: The Tom Jones Version Of Kiss Memorial Award... >What's the worst cover ever recorded? Don't answer that: I'll >tell you. >It's Elton John's execrable version of Nick Drake's "Saturday >Sun." I found >it on... I'll have to interrupt you there, Marshall. News just in: on her latest album Bonnie Tyler has covered In My Life, accompanied by the Prague Philharmonic...True, I haven't heard it. But, do I really want to? Joe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:12:18 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: [subject here] Lou as Oedipal Corn-God Father Sacrifice-- I still don't get it about Street Hassle. That song is essential listening, but the rest of the disk is just chugging ordinary rock made a bit grubbier in deference to punk. "I Wanna Be Black" is a great idea, but he doesn't keep the joke going. Over all I think there's more interesting sound on "The Bells." - --- Tom Clark-- >I'm still wondering what Noddy Holder washing his hands in a brook has to do with the theme of the song. Disconnection? If the laws of physics have stopped applying to his hands, it could be an ominous detail indicating that something's not quite right, like the scene early in "Earthquake!" where they're in a control room on top of a huge dam & suddenly notice that a door no longer shuts properly ... so it's gone out of alignment ... so something's shifted... I guess this is a fun rock song but not one of Robyn's best socio-polical discourses? - --- apropos of nothing [Marcy]-- A friend who does some theater suggested he might wrap himself up in plastic and duct tape, which made me think maybe I should wrap a homeless person up in plastic and duct tape and try to snap his picture before he either suffocates or breaks my neck. Ross Taylor "I can't cancel the war! I've already paid a month's rent on the battlefield!" -- President Rufus T. Firefly Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:48:00 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: apropos of nothing I have had problems with my iPod since updating the software on it. i had sooo much problems with battery drain that I sent it back to Apple and they sent me a new one. This did not relieve the problem of battery drain. Before updating the software I would get the proper battery life. After update, my perfectly good iPod could not hold a charge for more that 3 hours. The new iPod Apple sent me cannot hold a charge - I must keep it continually plugged into the wall unless using it. And in use I only get a few hours. I keep kicking myself for updating the software.... i didn't need the new features, ie. the clock. elenaore On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 01:23 PM, John Barrington Jones wrote: > Who is getting 10 full hours out of their iPod? I need to know. > > I get 5 or 6 on a _good_ day. > > =jbj= > > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Steve Talkowski wrote: > >> On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: >> >>> You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island >>> Discs. >>> "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing >>> when >>> or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your >>> way >>> out the door?" >> >> That's easy - all the ones on my iPod! ; ) (well, until the 10 hour >> battery wears out...) >> >> Seriously though, people in middle America need to take a chill pill - >> it's those of us in major cities (especially ones that already have >> been hit) that have a legit concern. >> >> Of course, if the terrorists REALLY wanted to shake things up, the >> could hit Idaho. >> >> Still taking the subway here in NYC, >> >> -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:46:31 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: ipodpro of nothing Did you try re-setting it? I had battery problems with mine after I updated but it fixed itself when I did a reset. - -tc on 2/13/03 2:48 PM, Eleanore Adams at eleanore@tdl.com wrote: > I have had problems with my iPod since updating the software on it. i > had sooo much problems with battery drain that I sent it back to Apple > and they sent me a new one. This did not relieve the problem of battery > drain. > > Before updating the software I would get the proper battery life. After > update, my perfectly good iPod could not hold a charge for more that 3 > hours. The new iPod Apple sent me cannot hold a charge - I must keep it > continually plugged into the wall unless using it. And in use I only > get a few hours. > > I keep kicking myself for updating the software.... i didn't need the > new features, ie. the clock. > > elenaore > > > On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 01:23 PM, John Barrington Jones > wrote: > >> Who is getting 10 full hours out of their iPod? I need to know. >> >> I get 5 or 6 on a _good_ day. >> >> =jbj= >> >> >> On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Steve Talkowski wrote: >> >>> On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 04:02 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: >>> >>>> You know, this could lead to a really grim version of Desert Island >>>> Discs. >>>> "If a dirty bomb suddenly forced you to flee your home, not knowing >>>> when >>>> or if you'll ever return, which ten CDs or LPs would you grab on your >>>> way >>>> out the door?" >>> >>> That's easy - all the ones on my iPod! ; ) (well, until the 10 hour >>> battery wears out...) >>> >>> Seriously though, people in middle America need to take a chill pill - >>> it's those of us in major cities (especially ones that already have >>> been hit) that have a legit concern. >>> >>> Of course, if the terrorists REALLY wanted to shake things up, the >>> could hit Idaho. >>> >>> Still taking the subway here in NYC, >>> >>> -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:48:17 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Oscar bitching/Drake note > What's the worst cover ever recorded? Don't answer that: I'll tell you. >It's Elton John's execrable version of Nick Drake's "Saturday Sun." you've obviously never heard Richard Cocciante's version of the Beatles' song "Michelle". > Ah good...Oscar season...sorry, I'm in an emphatic, belligerent mood >today. I'm, beginning to think I'm the only Feg who has seen/has good things to say about "Frida". James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #52 *******************************