From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #49 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 11 2003 Volume 12 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: SNL [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: the abandoned brain [0% RH] ["Michael Wells" ] Catching up [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Formerly Velvets, Formerly Special ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: for house of love fans ["Stewart C. Russell" ] OT: MacOS ISO burning [Capuchin ] Re: I Wanna Be Your Literature Professor [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: OT: MacOS ISO burning [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching [Aaron Mandel ] Lou's lows ["ross taylor" ] The Demise of the Sacred Crab ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching [Eb ] Re: Lou's lows [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching [Aaron Mandel ] RE: Mandatory Oscar Bitching ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] Re: fegmaniax-digested [Ken Ostrander ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:45:11 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: SNL Quoting Eb : > Just curious: Was the final "chili commercial" on Saturday the worst > bit in the entire history of SNL? I honestly can't think of anything > which could have been worse. I didn't see the show - haven't watched it in years - but let me guess: the skit involved farting. I will be very, very, very surprised if I'm wrong. And if I'm right...wow, how very original and creative of the show's writers... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 18:57:49 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: the abandoned brain [0% RH] Stewart questions... > Any suggestions as to what to do appreciated. Move, that's what I'd do. Someplace far away, perhaps a different continent entirely, where you can forget your past self and start over. Where they speak a curiously accented version of the same language. A place like...like...Scotland, say. Er, wait a minute... Michael "I do a mean Jackie Stewart impression" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:35:34 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Catching up Back online after a gap of several days and a replaced logic chip (in the computer that is - mine's as faulty as ever) From Rex: >James: >>>I seem to have 9 different soloists or groups performing "Tomorrow never >>>knows" > >Citations, please. Other than the Chameleons version, the only covers I can >think of have had the name changed to something like "Setting Sun", "Lips of >Steel" or "Taxloss". > >Perry: >>>"Mbube"/"Wimoweh"/"The Lion Sleeps Tonight." > >Got a lot of those, too. as far as I know, Eno is the only artist I have doing both - TNK as part of 801, and The lion sleeps tonight solo. The Tomorrow Never Knowses are by: The Beatles (2 versions) 801 The Mission The Chameleons The Freak Brothers Phil Collins (surprisingly good) Danielle Dax Trashcan Sinatras Our Lady Peace (synchronicity! Wasn't Kay just talking about them?) and The Brainchilds hmm. I was wrong - that's ten artists, eleven versions. There are apparently versions by Tater Totz and Monsoon as well - I'd particularly like to hear the latter. Somewhere on 4-track tape I also have a scratchy recording of the Beaker People version, but I didn't count that in the list! >>> I couldn't imagine anything closer to heaven than seeing Robyn in Paris. >> >> de hemel is niet dichtbij Frankrijk! >> >> amsterdam misschien? >> >> ik leer. >> >> hemel op aarde! > >Obwohl ich auch finde, dass es in Paris zu viele Franzosen gibt als dass es >himmlisch sein kvnnte, muss ich hier widersprechen: Amsterdam ist >sicherlich eine sehr schvne Stadt, aber es kann keine Frage geben. Der >Himmel auf Erden ist Kvln ;-) Ehara Parani i te Rangi, Ehara Amatatama i te Rangi, Ehara Korono i te Rangi. Te Moana Nui a Kiwa o te Rangi. Engari ka ahea Ropina Hitikoka whakatoro ki Aotearoa? >Robyn finally is scheduled to play in AZ. Fuck. Until I realised I'd misread that my heartrate went up to about 140. - --- Kay: >Do I gather then that people here like "Metal Machine Music" -better- than >"Transformer"? > >Hey, this is turning into a -great- Monday morning. do I hear a song cue? All together now... "Monday..." >New York, unless I'm very much mistaken (cue Murray Walker moment). oh my goodness yes!!! - --- >- - Mike "electricity comes from other planets" Godwin Condensation on windows is caused by fish in the atmosphere breathing on the glass. - --- >My dear Fegs, > >Have you ever been in a job where you just can't >focus? Where everything that's done seems to make >no sense? Where you don't know why you're missing >deadlines, and despite people yelling at you, it >doesn't seem to matter? > >That's me right now. A project that I could have >done in a week elsewhere still isn't done after >two months. I guess I'm just not in accord with >what they're doing here. sounds like me while I was doing my Psych PhD. I now work as an artist. - --- >> -the other Mac Steve ; ) >The more worse one, like I now understand. > >Note to RealSteve: I don't have *nix, but *nux. Is that also good? If >yes, call me "la voix de la raison"! Steve, Fric, calm down. There's more to who you are than what drive you drive. Build on both being Robyn fans, rather than on your different OSes James (putting in a bid as the list's "Te Reo o Whakaarotanga", and a vote for "The Blue Mask") James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 17:46:18 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Formerly Velvets, Formerly Special Perry: >>3. Sterling Morrison -- Could grade a mean term paper, >>but never touched a guitar after the Velvets final >>performance on the rooftop of Max's on 1/30/69. In addition to the VU reunion, he played a little geeetar on a Luna album. So there's that. Michael: >>people keeptelling me that 'The Mask' is good. I wonder. Blue Mask, right? Took me forever to hear that one and it was a minor disappointment. Some great stuff, but also a lot of Lou insisting that he's domesticated and heterosexual, and otherwise generally doth-protesting-too-much. It could be argued that them discrepancy between that material and the other, truly harrowing stuff provides a fascinating tension and self-critique, but that would imply that Lou was aware of the dichotomy, and I'm not so sure. Quine's playing is great, and you can hear him more on this record than the followups, but he's still not prominent enough for my tastes. Apparently the tour was where the Reed/Quine thing really happened, and you know what happens when Lou finds a good artistic foil: he tries to kill the guy or something. That said, I like Lou's solo records more than most of you seem to. Eb's list of the good ones is pretty much right on in my book. I do like more Cale records better, and as for Nico, The Marble Index is staggering to this day... most of the rest are better than any number of goth rip-offs. Neither of those facts are mentioned nearly enough for me. It seems that every Lou record now comes with one instant, usually lame, head-scratcher which is unfortunately the most memorable thing about the record... "Like a Possum", "Egg Cream Man" etc. _________ So I've just heard, for the first time, this song by the Colourfield called "Pushin' Up the Daisies", and, ummm, two things: 1) Hey, it's a cover of Kim Fowley's "The Trip" with different lyrics-- what gives with that? 2) There's a bit where the lyrics do the "just goes onandonandon" much like RH does in "Insanely Jealous". Are they both drawn from the same source, which eludes me right now, or what? Oh, wait, the Buzzcocks do that, too, in "16", and RH again in "Tell Me About Yr Drugs". Huh, Musta just been the thing to say in that cadence for those few years there, eh? ___ Kay: >>Group hug, group hug >;o)> Gladly! _____ Mike Godwin: >>PS I only ever say Nico once on a sunny afternoon in Hyde Park at a free >>concert I thought this was an incredibly artistic statement beyond my puny powers of understanding before I puzzled out that it was a typo. May I be so lucky next time. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 21:07:47 -0500 From: Caroline Smith Subject: for house of love fans http://hem.passagen.se/nyholm/news.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:16:31 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: for house of love fans Caroline Smith wrote: > http://hem.passagen.se/nyholm/news.html beware, it has an entire paragraph in tags -- eek! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 22:15:37 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: OT: MacOS ISO burning Hey, someone here can surely help me (Tom?). I'm using an iBook running MacOS 9.1 at someone else's house and I need to burn an ISO image to a CDR. When I insert a CDR, it immediately wants to "prepare" the disk with a filesystem (HFS+/ISO9660, Audio CD, or ISO9600). That's clearly NOT what I want, because I have an image here that needs to be bruned on the disk directly. How's that done? Thanks for anything. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 01:52:24 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: I Wanna Be Your Literature Professor "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Pursuant to this, here's something truly weird. In the current > Entertainment Weekly there's a little mini-interview with Nick > Cave where they play him "depressing" songs and ask him to > comment. One is a Cale tune. Cave says (paraphrasing) "I like > Cale as a friend, but I don't enjoy his music at all because it > has no sense of humor." Whaaaaaa.... ? I think Nick's inhaled too many paint fumes.... > Jeff Dwarf: > >Sterling lords over LIVE MCLXXXXXDDMIIIII as well though, as > >every good tugboat captain and literature professor should. > >Cale is solid as well. > > Thing on that record is that Lou sucks so badly and willfully > that everyone sounds great in comparison. In that sense Lou > provides a valuable public service by shining a brilliant light > on the other three and their own characteristic greatnesses. > Cale's "All Tomorrow's Parties" makes me cry. Actually, so do > some of Lou's lead vocal turns, but for a different reason > altogether. Lou never had that much of a voice (though it was always charming in it's own way), but at least on that recording his voice is so bad it's not even mono-dimentional. Granted everyone loses some of their voice over the years (except Elvis Costello and David Bowie for some reason), but Lou's was truly ravaged beyond repair. Even worse than Dylan's, which is at least an interesting croak these days -- Lou's isn't even that. Cale's "ATP" is about 75% of why I haven't sold that album back. > -Rex, feeling incredibly lame for never making the connection > between > Sterling and Galaxie 500's song "Tugboat Captain" until this morning... ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:30:47 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: And the rest goes in your ears I can't quite remember which disc my favorite "Inner Plain" is on. Whatever, its the short "radio friendly" version. - --------------- "Rex.Broome" wrote: >Pursuant to this, here's something truly weird. In the current >Entertainment Weekly there's a little mini-interview with Nick >Cave where they play him "depressing" songs and ask him to >comment. One is a Cale tune. Cave says (paraphrasing) "I like >Cale as a friend, but I don't enjoy his music at all because it >has no sense of humor." Whaaaaaa.... ? Is it possible Caves making an understated funny? Like pornography, conspiracy theory should be regarded strictly as entertainment, not a guide to real life. Chris Gross, Fegmania, 1-29-03 _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 09:01:00 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Catching up On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, James Dignan wrote: > Ehara Parani i te Rangi, Ehara Amatatama i te Rangi, Ehara Korono i te > Rangi. Te Moana Nui a Kiwa o te Rangi. Engari ka ahea Ropina Hitikoka > whakatoro ki Aotearoa? yer starting to sound french. what the fuck kinda language is this? you have no right to fuck with us using an insignificant language from some small island in the south pacific. though shalt speak no fucking kiwi! anyway, i was able to figure it out except for these words: amatatama and korono. what do these words mean? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:34:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: OT: MacOS ISO burning - --On Monday, February 10, 2003 22:15:37 -0800 Capuchin wrote: > I'm using an iBook running MacOS 9.1 at someone else's house and I need to > burn an ISO image to a CDR. > > When I insert a CDR, it immediately wants to "prepare" the disk with a > filesystem (HFS+/ISO9660, Audio CD, or ISO9600). That's clearly NOT what > I want, because I have an image here that needs to be bruned on the disk > directly. > > How's that done? Disk Copy should be able to do that (it does under OS X, not sure about 9.1). Launch it before you insert the CDR. If that doesn't work you need a 3d party app, such as Toast. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Non regalate terre promesse a chi non le mantiene. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:37:54 -0500 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: Formerly Velvets, Formerly Special "Rex.Broome" wrote: > Perry: > >>3. Sterling Morrison -- Could grade a mean term paper, > >>but never touched a guitar after the Velvets final > >>performance on the rooftop of Max's on 1/30/69. > > In addition to the VU reunion, he played a little geeetar on a Luna album. > So there's that. He was touring with Mo Tucker shortly before he died. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:42:23 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Mandatory Oscar Bitching http://www.oscars.com/nominees/nomineelist.html 1. I assume "The Two Towers" directed itself? 2. So much for Andrew Serkin getting any recognition for his "Gollum." 3. Philip Glass is nominated for "The Hours," which is half recycled, older music, rather than the all-new "Naqoyqatsi," which is one of him most critically-acclaimed scores in years. 4. "Naqoyqatsi" did not even get mentioned under "documentaries." 5. "Minority Report," in my opinion the most visually stunning Hollywood movie in years, gets nothing but some crappy "sound editing" nod. Not even "Best Visual Effects." To add insult to injury, there were only THREE movies nominated for Best Visual Effects. It's like they wanted to just say, "Fuck You" to Spielberg. Maybe if he goes back to making Holocaust movies, he'll get noticed again.... Anyway, I know the Oscars are a corrupt, crappy popularity contest, and I know I should know better, but I've been bitching about them for so long, I wouldn't know what to do if they suddenly made sense.... But for the record, I'm rooting for Scorsese all the way. Though realistically -- meaning politically -- they'll rob him of "best picture" and give him "best director," just as a sop for consistently ignoring him for three decades. - --Q PS: But at least Ron Howard is nowhere to be seen.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 10:53:31 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, The Great Quail wrote: > To add insult to injury, there were only THREE movies nominated for Best > Visual Effects. It's like they wanted to just say, "Fuck You" to > Spielberg. A year or two ago I was annoyed that there were only three nominees for Best Animated Film while something I thought was worthy had been passed over, and I was told that there's some formula for how many nominees there can be in a category based on how many are eligible; it's just that the cap is 5, and almost every category has enough eligible entries to get 5 nominees. Seems kind of weird -- what, there weren't a lot of movies with special effects last year? -- but I think there's no insult there. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 14:10:15 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: Lou's lows I just, a few months ago, got hold of the 2-cd set of Cale's "Island Years" records plus extras, & I'm riding way high on Cale. Before that, I'd had a bunch of other stuff, Vintage Violence, Honi Soit, Carribean Sunset, the live record--I loved em all, & even had Fear & heard the other two in the early 80s, but lost Fear & never got around to buying/re-buying them even tho I knew they were great. The Demon of Wanting to Buy Records Used. Those 3, and Paris 1919, have all the fear & hate you need, but they're also so damn *musical.* Plus there's not the big central ego to distract you from the music. I almost always find something interesting in a Lou Reed record, but so many of those 70s-80s disks were so thin I gave up & haven't followed him in the 90s. "New York" is an amazing album, one of my all time favs, & Songs for Drella is close, but god, New Sensations? Mistrial? I like Transformer as a period piece, really like Berlin, sorta like Sally Can't Dance as a period piece (must've been the times I heard it), maybe same for Rock'n'Roll Animal. Don't see what the fuss was about Coney Island (just Reed going 70s singer-songwriter), Rock'n'Roll Heart, or any of the others. Don't have American Poet, but will probably "check it out". Saw Nico once, in Edinburgh, a month or two before she died. She spent much of the show bitching at the devoted audience, but her songs are beautiful. People who'd seen her a bunch said "she's over-acting for sucha small venue." Enjoyed the film "Nico, Icon," which made her seem more personally appealing & gave a pretty good overview of her music. Closes w/ Cale performing a great version of her "The Borderline," just him & piano. Back to Cale, I think he's also a terrific interpreter of other people--I assume there's some connection between his killer version of "Allelulia" on "I'm Your Fan" & the weaker Wainwright version that made it to Shrek. And I think Wrong Way Up, with Eno, is pretty fun for a collaborative toss-off. Only know Wm. Alexander from one track on a Rhino comp. Don't know Moe. I should, fer sho'. - ---- Stewart-- You mean there are other kinds of jobs? Ross Taylor hanging onto my damn job by my damn cuticles Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:19:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: The Demise of the Sacred Crab Lou Reed content: 0% In a nutshell (or crabshell, as the case may be), here's the situation: "This is a video taken in 6000 feet of water. An undersea robot is sawing a 3mm wide slit (1/10th of an inch ... remember that width) in a pipeline. The pressure inside the pipeline is 0 psi, while the pressure outside is 2700 psi, or 1.3 tons per square inch. Then a crab comes along...." Pipe: 1, Crab, 0. . Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:33:38 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: Farewell for now Hello Fellow-Fegs, I'm going off-line for awhile. Stresses that I havent talked about here have mounted up, and I realize it behooves me to have some quiet time. Im working with the assumption that I will come back at a later date and I look forward to the day. You're a great list. Thanks for having me to the party and showing me a great time. I'll miss you. Love, Kay P.S Im going off line right way, so if you have the kind thought of writing me a goodbye or a dont go, thank you, but I wouldnt be checking my mailbox so I wouldnt get to read it. Also, if I owe you correspondence, I ask for a rain chaeck. Perhaps we can take it up again at a later date. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 11:50:39 -0800 (PST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: The Demise of the Sacred Crab On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > The video's giving me a 404. Do you still have it? J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:24:14 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching No bitching over here - ICE AGE was nominated for Best Animated Picture, along with LILO & STICH, SPIRITED AWAY, SPIRIT: STALLION OF THE CIMARRON and TREASURE PLANET. Now, lets see how much money Katzenberg throws around to sway the vote towards SPIRIT. - -Steve (Ice Age 3d animator/layout artist) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:31:18 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching >http://www.oscars.com/nominees/nomineelist.html > >1. I assume "The Two Towers" directed itself? Ack. You aren't one of those people who insists the Best Picture and Best Director nominations should always be in sync, are you?? I haven't seen Two Towers yet, but from what others have told me, the pacing is a little awkward because the main characters are all off on their own little adventures and don't intersect much. Maybe this is what cost PJ the nomination. It does seem strange that Minority Report was overlooked for effects. Did the Best Animated Feature category exist, last year? I didn't recall this one. Anyway, the bottom line is: Julianne Moore is such a friggin' goddess. ;) Speaking of film, I saw Monster's Ball and Signs in recent days. Monster's Ball: B+. Signs: B. Disappointed in both. The story of Monster's Ball could have fit into an hour. Signs...lame payoff. The Pazz & Jop is out! http://www.villagevoice.com/specials/pazznjop/02/album_winners1.php I'll post some Mandatory Pazz & Jop Bitching a bit later. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 21:33:09 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Lou's lows - -- ross taylor is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 14:10 Uhr -0500 regarding Lou's lows: > Back to Cale, I think he's also a terrific interpreter of other people--I > assume there's some connection between his killer version of "Allelulia" > on "I'm Your Fan" & the weaker Wainwright version that made it to Shrek. I thought so as well. But my favorite version is the one by Jeff Buckley ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 15:45:12 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Eb wrote: > Ack. You aren't one of those people who insists the Best Picture and > Best Director nominations should always be in sync, are you?? They nearly are this year: only Two Towers (BP) and Aldomovar (BD) are exceptions. Is that unusual? > Did the Best Animated Feature category exist, last year? I didn't recall > this one. It may have been the first year; I think the nominees were Shrek, Monsters Inc. and something else. a ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 13:07:53 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: Mandatory Oscar Bitching > No bitching over here - ICE AGE was nominated for Best Animated > Picture, along with LILO & STICH, SPIRITED AWAY, SPIRIT: STALLION OF > THE CIMARRON and TREASURE PLANET. No offense Steve, but I hope to fucking god that Ice Age, Spirit, or Treasure planet don't win. Ice Age looked great but the story was totally lame. The other two sucked majorly in many ways. That said none of this years nominees were as bad as that lame ass nickelodeon Jimmy Neutron thing that was nominated last year over good stuff like Waking Life. It's a toss up between, Lilo and Stitch and Spirited Away. Both were beautifully animated with great stories that moved me emotionally. Regarding the rest of the nominations, I just don't get why Chicago got so many nominations and I love musicals. John C. Reilly and Catherine Zeta Jones both deserve the nominations they got and should win in my book but everything else? The movie really fails as a film for me. Watching it only made want to see the musical on stage again. Renee Zelwegger's performance straddled the line between competent and awful. The direction and cinematography were horrid. It was like one of those PBS productions of a musical they never opened up the film and let it be cinematic in anyway. And don't get me started about the choreography. Regarding Peter Jackson's lack of a best director nomination I think its fair because there were some flaws in the pacing of the Two Towers and its nice to Almodovar get some recognition for a fine film that was ineligible for best foreign film because the Spanish submitted the Javier Bardem film instead. Plus its not like PJ was gonna win. I expect the LOTR franchise best shot at major Oscar wins will be Return of the King because it will have all the good stuff of the first two plus a satisfying resolution that the first two lack. Far from Heaven should win everything its up for truly the best film of the year. If Julianne more doesn't win Best actress there will be hell to pay especially if Zelwegger wins instead. And I hope that horrid U2 song doesn't win either. The Eminem tune is the best of the bunch but anything over that U2 song would make me happy. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 16:23:10 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Mandatory Oscar Bitching > And I hope that horrid U2 song doesn't win either. The Eminem tune is > the best of the bunch but anything over that U2 song would make me > happy. The actual song is a lot more palatable than the version used in the movie, which is bombasted to cheesiness with some really bad instrumentation.... But even still, it is not going to win a place in my heart as my favorite U2 song.... - --Q ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 17:05:03 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digested when i was putting together some robyn for my old college roomate (who became a fan from all of the hours i spent playing his music and taught me to play some of the tunes) i eventually decided to make three separate mixes: one of the soft boys, one of the egyptians, and one of robyn solo. i enjoyed making them very much and was able to include all the songs that i wanted. when i start listing songs i'd include in a mix, i tend to get carried away: insanely jealous airscape unprotected love uncorrected personality traits 52 stations brenda's iron sledge the wreck of the arthur lee nasa clapping flesh number one human music sometimes i wish i was a pretty girl so you think you're in love i wanna destroy you autumn is your last chance tell me about your drugs my wife and my dead wife sinister but happy i got a message for you i got the hots anglepoise lamp oceanside linctus house serpent at the gates of wisdom he's a reptile filthy bird acid bird globe of frogs madonna of the wasps queen of eyes beautiful queen queen elvis mexican god mr kennedy raymond chandler evening we are the underneath >>Fire up the databases, here's another one for you. What single composition >>do you own the most copies of? from robyn: old pervert, freeze, filthy bird, when i was a kid, leppo other artists: femme fatale little wing don't think twice, it's alright heartbreak hotel >I wonder what would have happened if Batt had claimed that he'd just >sampled four bars of silence from Cage's work and used it as part of his >'composition'. IIRC you're allowed to sample up to eight bars before you >get into problems with copyright. is batt the one who copyrighted his own "silence" as 59 seconds and 1 minute and 1 second to capitalize if anyone went over or under on a performance of the original 1 minute cage piece? >>Back to Cale, I think he's also a terrific interpreter of other people--I >>assume there's some connection between his killer version of "Allelulia" >>on "I'm Your Fan" & the weaker Wainwright version that made it to Shrek. > >I thought so as well. But my favorite version is the one by Jeff Buckley ... agreed. buckley's is tops. wasn't it cale's version in the _shrek_ flick? i've gotta say, though i thoroughly enjoy the cale and tucker albums i have, i'm still quite partial to reed. apart from his work in the velvets, i really love transformer, street hassle, the blue mask, new sensations, new york, songs for drella, and ecstacy. i like other albums; but these are the most consistantly good. ken "people look well in the dark" the kenster ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #49 *******************************