From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #34 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, January 29 2003 Volume 12 : Number 034 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: ps ["Brian Huddell" ] Hello again (+ off-topic question) [Perry Amberson ] Re: numbers with wings [Michael R Godwin ] Re: ps [gSs ] RE: ps [gSs ] Re: ps [gSs ] A Better Way to View the State of the Union ["FS Thomas" ] death and taxes [Ken Ostrander ] Re: ps [Marcy Tanter ] RE: yer lucky it don't take it all. [gSs ] Re: ps [gSs ] Re: ps [Marcy Tanter ] Re: numbers with wings [Ken Ostrander ] Re: ps [gSs ] Re: the Fucking Idiot ["Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" ] Re: Shrub, "Christianity," and the moral sewer (delete now!) [Tom Clark <] Re: Shrub, "Christianity," and the moral sewer (delete now!) [Christopher] blotto [Jill Brand ] Re: blotto ["FS Thomas" ] war and taxes ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] RE: blotto ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] Re: blotto ["FS Thomas" ] On the Lighter Side: ["FS Thomas" ] Re: Hello again (+ off-topic question) [Ken Ostrander ] Re: blotto ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: A Better Way to View the State of the Union [Eb Subject: RE: ps > J. Wow! Eb's deepest fears realized. Welcome back! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 05:47:36 -0800 (PST) From: Perry Amberson Subject: Hello again (+ off-topic question) Sincere thanks to Kay, Tim, Max, Jeffrey, and Stewart (in inverse chronological order of e-mails) for the kind words and for inviting me back after I left in a huff (or was it a minute-and-a-huff). Ive blocked a particular address, and should quite enjoy the list again. Until later, Perry PS: Has anybody on the list seen the DVD of "Mean Streets" yet? I love the movie and its score composed of well-chosen found music (the scene in which Harvey Keitel passes out to the sound of The Chips' "Rubber Biscuit" is still the best filmed depiction of drunkenness I've ever seen), but on my old VHS copy, it sounds as if all the source material was from medium-quality vinyl. Has the sound quality of the music been upgraded on the DVD? _____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 07:59:10 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: Shrub, "Christianity," and the moral sewer (delete now!) Hey, welcome back - and, to quote Brian Huddell, re your post: "word." ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 9:23:59 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: numbers with wings Michael Wells wrote > > No contest my way... > "2112" easy Canadian mind-reading trick: If you work with a Canadian guy >30 years old, amaze him by knowing his voicemail password. I think it's a legal requirement for it to be 2112 ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:31:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: numbers with wings On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Eb wrote: > I might go with the Who's "1921" or the Stooges' "1969"? I think? I've always been a big fan of John Mayall's '2401', which used to be on one of my favourite juke boxes, along with 'Mixed up confusion' and 'My Sweet Lord'. I heard public-school educated Tony Blair say Nukular the other day. I fear he's been talking to crazed G W Bush too much. - - Mike "don't get me started on tax theory" Godwin PS to jmbc: How come you got 2 sets of encores in Oxford with fewer than 100 people? We had more people than that in Bristowe, but only one tranche of encores. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:42:56 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: ps On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, steve wrote: > But you've got your Apocalypse a bit wrong, there's got to be the > antichrist and the tribulation and all that. well, sharon is the anti-christ, most of the world has been in tribulation for as long as i can remember. let's party like it is the apocolypse. that's a great excuse. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:52:44 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: RE: ps On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, FS Thomas wrote: > All too often people are penalized for doing well in exchange for > carrying those who don't. Flat taxes work, people. Plain and simple. agreed, but it should have a slight curve or at least two sections. somewhere between 15 and 20 percent for the top 10 percent and 10 percent for everyone else. no deductions or special 403b or whatever the fuck forms and would include eliminating any deductions for children. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:02:00 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: ps On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Marcy Tanter wrote: > Actually, isn't he from Maine..? like there would be a difference? a yankee is a yankee. there is no seperation or advantage to being born in cherry hill, nj as opposed to chicago or maine for instance. > And he's not a Christian. True Christians don't advocate dropping bombs on people for no good reason. so christians only drop bombs on people when there is a good reason? i would love to see a list of christian bomb droppers. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:05:08 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: A Better Way to View the State of the Union Play the State of the Union Drinking Game: http://www.marcmelzer.net/sotudg/ (Note: death by alcohol poisoning is a definite possibility under the current rules/administration) F S Thomas ferris@ochremedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:18:32 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: ps On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Capuchin wrote: > > it's alive!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:33:12 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: death and taxes FS Thomas wrote: >> Brian wrote: >> ...I'm convinced that any move toward a "flat" >> federal income tax would necessarily benefit the >> rich > >When people say, "you should pay your fair share," what's more fair than >everyone paying the same percentage? Get entirely rid of deductions of >all kinds--wipe the board. Take the federal budget and divide it by the >number of taxable-income earning people in the country in proportion to >their salary. I would love to see what individual responsibility would >be, percentage-wise. the fact is that lower income folk pay more taxes as a percentage of personal income than rich folk. all of those little taxes add up, especially when your wages barely cover food and rent. this new tax cut will be weighted toward the rich. does anyone understand this "double-taxation" scam? as i see it, the company makes money and it gets (somewhat) taxed; then, the stock dividends get paid out to the shareholders and they get taxed. i do see a double taxation on most people in that we get taxed on our gross income before medicaid and social security are taken out. http://www.ufenet.org/research/BushStimulus.html >Regarding business taxes: It is frustrating when you see businesses not >paying tax. However, what would be more frustrating: giving them a ride >on property taxes and the like, or seeing them move off-shore? If it >takes tax cuts to keep large industry and respectable (read: non-service >industry) jobs in the area, I give them a break. i say fuck that. if businesses want to make money in this country then they need to pay taxes. pure and simple. what really needs to happen is for the bullshit about corporations having the same rights as actual people to change. http://www.thomhartmann.com/unequalprotection.shtml >As far as death taxes go, they should be abolished. Where does it say >that just because I die, I should be forced to fork over half of what I >managed to make in my lifetime to the government as opposed to passing >it onto my children or spouse? more rationale for hiding your cash somewhere like your mattress or in the walls of your house. of course, most people don't have to worry about this; but rather how they are going to decide who gets the piss pot when they die. these people don't have offshore accounts. i do think that this is the only way that some of this wealth will get taxed. there are more loopholes and tax breaks available to the wealthy. as we have seen, more and more wealth is being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands. this is the modern aristocracy. our boy georgie is the perfect example. he's gotten where he is because of his family's wealth and connections. he wouldn't have gotten into yale without them; thus making sure that someone more qualified didn't get in. he, more than anyone else, has a vested interest in keeping this network going by paying back those that got him where he is today. powerful people will never educate powerless people on what it means to take the power away. ken "take from the rich and give to the poor" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:41:58 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: ps At 09:02 AM 1/29/2003 -0500, gSs wrote: >On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Marcy Tanter wrote: > > Actually, isn't he from Maine..? > >like there would be a difference? a yankee is a yankee. there is no >seperation or advantage to being born in cherry hill, nj as opposed to >chicago or maine for instance. um, no. A Yankee is someone from New England. People from NJ are not Yankees. They may be Northerners, but Yankees they're not. > > And he's not a Christian. True Christians don't advocate dropping >bombs on people for no good reason. > >so christians only drop bombs on people when there is a good reason? i >would love to see a list of christian bomb droppers. Of course not! I don't think any Christian would advocate killing, but there are lots of people who consider themselves to be Christians who have joined the armed forces as a means of protecting their country who might see that there is a good reason. I see Bush as much worse than that. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:49:47 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: RE: yer lucky it don't take it all. On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, gSs wrote: > agreed, but it should have a slight curve or at least two sections. i said at least two tax brackets, but three would probably be more workable. the bottom 10-20% would pay 0%. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:56:52 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: ps On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Marcy Tanter wrote: > um, no. A Yankee is someone from New England. People from NJ are not > Yankees. They may be Northerners, but Yankees they're not. yah know, most of europe calls us all yankees, some in a good way and some not so good, but i've informed them that texans are much more like mexicans than yankees. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:05:36 -0600 From: Marcy Tanter Subject: Re: ps At 10:56 AM 1/29/2003 -0500, gSs wrote: >On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Marcy Tanter wrote: > > um, no. A Yankee is someone from New England. People from NJ are not > > Yankees. They may be Northerners, but Yankees they're not. > >yah know, most of europe calls us all yankees, some in a good way and some >not so good, but i've informed them that texans are much more like >mexicans than yankees. I've lived in Texas for almost 5 yrs now and I feel fairly safe in saying that Texans aren't like Yankees or Mexicans--they're unlike anyone else in the world. Marcy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:18:40 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: numbers with wings >> > but my all time favorite numberish song, though a little >>> impure in terms of numbers, would be from "154" by Wire >> >>I might go with the Who's "1921" or the Stooges' "1969"? I think? there are a couple of '1969's on releases from 2002: from joey ramone and the vines. mcmanus has a song called '45' from 2002 my favorite number songs: 5:15 who 867-5309 tommy tutone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:26:23 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: ps On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Marcy Tanter wrote: > I've lived in Texas for almost 5 yrs now and I feel fairly safe in saying > that Texans aren't like Yankees or Mexicans--they're unlike anyone else in > the world. yeah but yer sheltered, aren't you? don't you live in the center? after you've been here 25 years more or so, you'll come around and start visiting places like zacatecas, durango, michoacan and chihuahua twice a year and listening to narco music and wishing you played tuba. that music does have a really groovey swing. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:23:18 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: Re: the Fucking Idiot The Fucking Idiot: I didn't watch the speech but I did try to read the paper this morning. Unfortunetly they started of by quoting Bush's statement that if we are "forced" into war. So much for my reading the paper. FORCED? Has the whole world gone mad? Even people who support the war know we are the ones forcing, not being forced. I dont know why I am so old-fashioned but even after a whole lifetime bathed in Doublespeak I still hate this fucking crud like the devile. It makes me apoleptic. Words matter. If you fuck with them you fuck with meaning, truth, communication, intelligence, life. Im a lousy postmodern, I just can't get apathetic or cynical about this. If you'll blow up words, it seems to me your on that rockslide that can lead to blowing up people and calling it pacification. Robyn is right, the man is a fucking idiot. Pointy Michael: >He sure acts like a >guy who thinks there's a deity on his side, doesn't he? Most fucking idiots do, and that includes the ones who say they dont believe in a deity. Cause basicially(being fucking idiots to start with) they then just consider themselves their own diety. On their own side. And to be fair I also have to add that the amount of religious fucking idiots who hijack God so they can worship themselves in good consious is also pretty staggering. Marcy: >True Christians don't advocate dropping bombs on people for no good > >reason. Thank you Marcy. And some Chrsitians would add -- for any reason. In fact, while Im not yet a complete pacifist, my respect for being a true Christian goes to the Martin Luther Kings of this world, not the droves of fucking idiots. Or myself. If I was stronger in faith I would be strong enough to be able to be a pacifist. Pacisfism takes a level of moral/ethical streangth that I can not yet summon up. Pointy Mike: >(Note: I am savaging a simplistic, brain-dead >version of Christianity here - not all versions thereof.) I have noted and thank you for saying that. Oh, and the fucking idiot spent his teen years, I believe, in Massachusetts, boarding at Andover. Add summers in Maine and college in Conneticutt and you have the sort of only slightly southern-fried fucking idiot I enjoyed dumping my drink on back in my prepette days. - --------------------- Jeme, Peace. - ------------------ Perry, thanks for giving us another chance. I really, really hope we can live up to it. And remember --you can always block -more- than one addy:-) - ----------------- Since it looks like one way or other, this world is going downhill, may I only say I could really use another Soft Boys gig before it all gets too bad. Kay, who has never understood how the flat tax could be realistically touted as fair. I just assume people are trolling or flim-flamming. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:55:28 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Between the Oak Ridge Boys and the Mistress of the Dark... Eclipse: >>my name isn't as unfortunate as something like "Roxanne" (which, i think, is >>actually a great name, aside from the song), but close: Barbara Anne. and if i >>ever hear that song again, i'll cry. really, i will. :) Oh. Damn. Sorry. But hey... there IS a worse option now that I think about it: Elvira. ___ Eb: >>Will Dubya *ever* master saying the word "nuclear"? He wouldn't even if he could, which *he* may not be able to do. (Doubtless his handlers have pointed it out to him.) I know that a lot of politicians are perfectly capable of pronouncing it correctly but don't. It's a disgusting affectation that's supposed to make them seem like "regyulerr guys". And I think the fact that it makes Americans look defiant (or something) on the world stage is supposed to be defiant. Really it makes us look retarded, but they obviously either don't care or relish that possibility as well. _______ Ex-Anglepoise: >>No, it happened. There was a final ang-ul-poiiise, other than that it was a >>seven winged bit. Uh oh, now it's a "bit". Okay, last I heard consensus was that it was a *severed*-wing bat, but recently it's been heard as "seven" again. Can we get a consensus on this one, or are we back to Mucky/Bucky? Then again, that would be a welcome point of debate at this point, wouldn't it? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:55:19 -0700 From: hamish_simpson@agilent.com Subject: RE: Names and Numbers Eb sed > the Stooges' "1969"? I think? "1970" is much better. What about artist and song that are both numbers. 311 with "1,2,3" and "Six" (OK they write it in letters). Do I win a coconut? As to my name in a song title all I get is a bunch of teuchter pish! 'course if I translate it I get a whole band but since they suck donkey balls I'm probably better off. H np - Divine Comedy "Liberation" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:07:08 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: numbers with wings 6060842 by The B-52's has probably the highest concentration of numbers (69%) in a song/artist. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:55:46 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Shrub, "Christianity," and the moral sewer (delete now!) on 1/28/03 9:26 PM, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey at jenor@uwm.edu wrote: > While I think Bush's delusions of a divine role to fill combine with his > avenging-dad fantasies, it's clear that the brains in the administration are > conveniently utilizing those urges to further policies they were proposing > well before Bush was "elected." "Regime change" in Iraq has been in the > works in the minds of Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al. for quite some time...even > if Saddam were to step down or back down. My conspiracy-theory coworker claims just this. Apparently we didn't topple Saddam ten years ago because we had already kicked his ass enough for one decade, and we could always use him later on when the oil ran low and we needed to seize some fields under the guise of "liberation". I'm not so much a conspiracy-theorist, but it makes pretty good sense to me. Here's some interesting reading: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/01.23.03/conspiracies-0304.html - -t "Can I move to another planet?" c ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Shrub, "Christianity," and the moral sewer (delete now!) On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tom Clark wrote: > My conspiracy-theory coworker claims just this. Apparently we didn't topple > Saddam ten years ago because we had already kicked his ass enough for one > decade, and we could always use him later on when the oil ran low and we > needed to seize some fields under the guise of "liberation". I'm not so > much a conspiracy-theorist, but it makes pretty good sense to me. Two obvious problems with this theory: First, it doesn't explain why the war is coming now: oil isn't "running lower" any more appreciably than it was, say, three years ago. Second, and perhaps more telling, is that if the Bush regime just wanted to grab more oil, they wouldn't have to start a war. A much cheaper and less risky strategy would have been to simply end the sanctions against Iraq in return for their pumping up the production. (ISTR that Dick Cheney lobbied for precisely this a few years ago, back when he was in private life.) If you want an oil-based explanation for Bush's war mania, I'll offer you a more plausible one free of charge: Bush and co. believe that if Saddam regains too much military power (through weapons o' mass destruction or conventional means), then he will be able to dominate his oil-rich neighbors like Kuwait, Saudi Arabia et al. This would put him in direct or indirect control of a healthy chunk of the world's oil, thus giving him an unpleasant degree of control over us oil-importing nations and the world economy as a whole. Whereas previous administrations countered this danger with sanctions, deterrance and weapons inspections, the Bushies want to try something more radical and decisive. Admittedly this theory won't satisfy conspiracy-theory afficianados: it's neither evil nor implausible enough. But I personally suspect it's the single biggest element in the Bush push for war. Personally, I think this war is a very very bad idea, both morally and practically; but I still don't buy most conspiracy theories about it. Like pornography, conspiracy theory should be regarded strictly as entertainment, not a guide to real life. - ---Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:27:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: blotto My husband heard something on NPR which he related to me and which I only half caught. If anyone knows the details, chime in. Anyway, some guy came up with a way for people to listen to Mr. Sincere give the State of the Union without damaging the TV set or running around looking for rusty razor blades. For every time that Baby Bush said either "nucular" or "weapons of mass distruction" you were to drink a shot of grain alcohol. We pretended for a while that we were doing just that, and realized that we would have been hospitalized for alcohol poisoning if we had truly followed through with the suggestion. I also believe that Jimmy Carter said "nucular" even though it was in his sphere of engineering, I believe. Jill, nursing an imaginary hangover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:37:19 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Re: blotto From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary (http://www.m-w.com): Nuclear: 'n|-klE-&r, 'ny|-, w-ky&-l&r If I'm deciphering that correctly, then his pronounciation has hit the mainstream. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Brand" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 14:27 Subject: blotto > My husband heard something on NPR which he related to me and which I only > half caught. If anyone knows the details, chime in. Anyway, some guy > came up with a way for people to listen to Mr. Sincere give the State of > the Union without damaging the TV set or running around looking for rusty > razor blades. For every time that Baby Bush said either "nucular" or > "weapons of mass distruction" you were to drink a shot of grain alcohol. > We pretended for a while that we were doing just that, and realized that > we would have been hospitalized for alcohol poisoning if we had truly > followed through with the suggestion. > > I also believe that Jimmy Carter said "nucular" even though it was in his > sphere of engineering, I believe. > > Jill, nursing an imaginary hangover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:37:35 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: war and taxes I didn't watch this State of the Union last night because Bush makes me queasy and Gary Locke makes me even queasier. =20 =20 I did read the speech and I have to say I found bush's argument for war fairly convincing. For the most of last year I was very opposed to an Iraq war until I realized that most of objections were not based on the facts but on my distaste for Bush. WI realized that on the facts of it I was for it and that if it had been Clinton or Gore proposing it I wouldn't have full supported it. To me there are real national security issues and regional security issues involved and while a war will harm the populace of Iraq it will ultimately be less harmful that the last 12 years of sanctions that did nothing to Saddam and just hurt the people. It should be done with UN cooperation though. =20 =20 Bushes proposed tax cuts won't do anything to help the economy its just a bunch of supply side bullshit. A payroll tax holiday for everyone would have a more demonstrable effect on the economy as would a rapid expansion in Federal spending for public works and stuff. =20 Regarding the inheritance tax, it certainly should be reformed and have the floor of the tax moved up a little higher. But the upper echelons of the tax should remain in place. For a great defense of the inheritance tax read Wealth and Our Commonwealth: Why America Should Tax Accumulated Fortunes by William H. Gates and Chuck Collins. Bill Gates' dad writes about why this tax is a good thing. Amazon Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/080704718X/002-6751356-218 5655?v=3Dglance&s=3Dbooks&n=3D507846=20 =20 =20 =20 Jason Brown MSWeb Best Bets http://msw/=20 =20 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:41:06 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: blotto > My husband heard something on NPR which he related to me and which I only > half caught. If anyone knows the details, chime in. Anyway, some guy > came up with a way for people to listen to Mr. Sincere give the State of > the Union without damaging the TV set or running around looking for rusty > razor blades. For every time that Baby Bush said either "nucular" or > "weapons of mass distruction" you were to drink a shot of grain alcohol. > We pretended for a while that we were doing just that, and realized that > we would have been hospitalized for alcohol poisoning if we had truly > followed through with the suggestion. Don't forget his one syllable version of terrorist. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:43:45 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Re: blotto Ugh. The characters didn't come through right on the below message. DAMN YOU, ASCII! - -f. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "FS Thomas" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 14:37 Subject: Re: blotto > From the Merriam-Webster Dictionary (http://www.m-w.com): > > Nuclear: 'n|-klE-&r, 'ny|-, w-ky&-l&r > > If I'm deciphering that correctly, then his pronounciation has hit the > mainstream. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jill Brand" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 14:27 > Subject: blotto > > > > My husband heard something on NPR which he related to me and which I only > > half caught. If anyone knows the details, chime in. Anyway, some guy > > came up with a way for people to listen to Mr. Sincere give the State of > > the Union without damaging the TV set or running around looking for rusty > > razor blades. For every time that Baby Bush said either "nucular" or > > "weapons of mass distruction" you were to drink a shot of grain alcohol. > > We pretended for a while that we were doing just that, and realized that > > we would have been hospitalized for alcohol poisoning if we had truly > > followed through with the suggestion. > > > > I also believe that Jimmy Carter said "nucular" even though it was in his > > sphere of engineering, I believe. > > > > Jill, nursing an imaginary hangover ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:59:01 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: On the Lighter Side: http://www.idleworm.com/nws/2002/11/iraq2.shtml F S Thomas ferris@ochremedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:03:25 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Hello again (+ off-topic question) At 05:47 AM 1/29/2003 -0800, Perry Amberson wrote: >Sincere thanks to Kay, Tim, Max, Jeffrey, and Stewart >(in inverse chronological order of e-mails) for the >kind words and for inviting me back after I left in a >huff (or was it a minute-and-a-huff). Ive blocked a >particular address, and should quite enjoy the list >again. welcome back perry! >PS: Has anybody on the list seen the DVD of "Mean >Streets" yet? I love the movie and its score composed >of well-chosen found music (the scene in which Harvey >Keitel passes out to the sound of The Chips' "Rubber >Biscuit" is still the best filmed depiction of >drunkenness I've ever seen), but on my old VHS copy, >it sounds as if all the source material was from >medium-quality vinyl. Has the sound quality of the >music been upgraded on the DVD? i still haven't bought into the dvd revolution; but i'm wondering if the music would be better all blurry and bleary to underscore the drunkeness. weren't they just playing the jukebox in the bar? keno ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:35:14 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: blotto Jason Brown wrote: > > Don't forget his one syllable version of > terrorist. No, he really does want to eliminate tourism. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:46:28 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: A Better Way to View the State of the Union >Play the State of the Union Drinking Game: > >http://www.marcmelzer.net/sotudg/ > >(Note: death by alcohol poisoning is a definite possibility under the >current rules/administration) I can't believe this game didn't include the Bushlet's use of "resolve" and "prevail." Those are the two recurrent punchwords which I always snigger about. Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #34 *******************************