From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #28 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 24 2003 Volume 12 : Number 028 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Other RH lists + flicksongs [Eb ] Re: Fuck ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Other RH lists + flicksongs ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy ha] songs in f/ f'in' songs [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: songs in f/ f'in' songs ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: now here's a bit of extreme database-trainspotting [Sabina Carlson ] Gong News Service PSA #56 [The Great Quail ] Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Bazonka! [Michael R Godwin ] Re: panto revisited [Aaron Mandel ] Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) [Christopher Gross ] single fucks the album [Ken Ostrander ] Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a] Re: single fucks the album [gSs ] Re: single fucks the album ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) [Tom Clark ] Re: singled out [gSs ] Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a] Re: single fucks the album [Eb ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:01:38 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Other RH lists + flicksongs >Ah, I was just ribbing you. I figured for "Time", there's Bowie, Pink Floyd, and Alan Parsons. And Cat Stevens, Tom Waits, Sly & the Family Stone, Richard Hell & the Voidoids, Luna, Supergrass, Wondermints, Tori Amos and the Minutemen. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:28:59 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Fuck Certainly impressive database work by all concerned. I would admit to being able to pick a few of those mentioned by having the f-bomb in the song name, but there's a goodly number too that leap to my mind because of their wildly gratuitous (and non-title) use of the word. My faves: "Big Dumb Sex" - Soundgarden ('Louder than Love'). Contains the seminal runup: "I / Know what to do / I'm gonna / fuck / FUCK / fuck / FUCK YOU / yaaa-aaay." Touching. "I Don't Care About You" - Fear ('The Record'). A sample: "I / I don't care about you / FUCK YOU." Repeat. "Trans Am" - Sammy Hagar ('Live 1980'). "Can't Kill Me" - Mojo Nixon (various releases). Actually this is more an honorary than specific as any Mojo song live has the potential to become an unending series of curse words. And I wouldn't admit to it being your birthday at one of his shows either. Michael "debbie gibson is pregnant with my two-headed love child" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 18:42:26 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Other RH lists + flicksongs At 6:01 PM -0800 1/23/03, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves "Eb" and whispered: >>Ah, I was just ribbing you. I figured for "Time", there's Bowie, Pink >Floyd, and Alan Parsons. > >And Cat Stevens And you've got me again. Forgot a song on *another* one of my favorite albums. Mike - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 20:35:53 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: songs in f/ f'in' songs I don't think anybody's mentioned Harry Nilsson yet. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:37:27 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: songs in f/ f'in' songs >From: rosso@videotron.ca >I don't think anybody's mentioned Harry Nilsson yet. I once made a Nilsson compilation for a friends son and absent mindedly put said title on the disc(Is it You're Breaking My Heart "so fuck you, yeah fuck you"). I'm not used to catering to children. Here son, how to drop the EFF bomb in one easy lesson. Excited to see Camper Van tomorrow, Max PS. Yes, upon realizing it I called my friend and told him. I made a new copy minus offending song. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:40:37 -0500 From: Sabina Carlson Subject: Re: now here's a bit of extreme database-trainspotting eb: > Here are some kick ass rock 'n' roll songs.... there's "do you remember rock 'n' roll radio?" but no "rock 'n' roll high school"! gasp... hehe. i admit that i like rock 'n' roll radio better though. i am not sure why, i just like it better :-) *sigh* and the cryptkeeper five did such a kickass cover of it too.... and it's only a poisonous plant, sabina SHEENA ! "we need change and we need it fast, before rock's just part of the past!" -ramones ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 23:52:59 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: songtitles and extinct animals >> Most popular rock words are popular poetry words(e.g., love, time, water, >> grace etc) except for Satellite, which seems to be the defining post modern >> rock word. Whats interesting is that I don't think it started showing up >> till the 80s? > >"Bing bong bong" > >Lou Reed, Transformer, 1972. ISTR it was mentioned in a Flanders & Swann song (Satellite Moon) back in about '61. Hardly rock, though. >Human Sexual Response "Butt Fuck" and an instrumental of the same title by Daddy Long Legs (technically, the track is called "Buttfuck" in DLL's case). Anyone mentioned... ? "Fucked Up Lullaby", (by the Julie Dolphin - another quieter one) "Fucking in Heaven" (Fatboy Slim) "Fucking Ada" (Ian Dury and the Blockheads) "Starfuckers, inc." (N.I.N.) "March of the fuckheads" (also N.I.N.) "Just a fuckin' idiot" (Future Sound of London) >>Another very common title which is missing from your list is "One". > >Not being a U2/Three Dog Night collector, the only "One's" I have are >by Cluster & Eno and Alanis M. Zip Campisi? The BeeGees? Formica? Johnny Cash? (admittedly, that's the U2 song). Extra points for the Cluster & Eno :) - --- >I also had my bike nicked last night. Bicycle thievery is the only crime >for which I'd endorse the death penalty... Bicycles are very important to this story. See how many you can spot. (and sorry about the loss) - --- >How huge? It ate dinosaurs, for one thing. Paleontologists have turned up >a fairly complete fossil of a crocodile 40 feet long, over 15 feet in >girth, weighing 18,000 pounds, with 4-foot jaws. After examining the >croc's meat-shredding teeth and calculating its nutrition requirements, >one scientist pronounced the species, Sarcosuchus imperator , ''amazingly >nasty animals.'' I'm sometimes thankful that New Zealand's Haast Eagle is extinct (it died out only about 500 years ago). Wing span was about 10 feet - its main food was the moa. has more info. James PS - welcome back Elizabeth! James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 04:57:27 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Satellite Songs Sometimes Let it be noted for the record that whenever I go a couple days without checking my e-mail, you people go fucking berzerk!!! :) Satellites not mentioned (I think): Depeche Mode, Aimee Mann Natually, Eb will be rushing out to add these to his collection. Also, I don't think I saw "Sometimes" on the single word songs lists, but I think I may have more of those than any other (not that I'm ever going to research it): Depeche Mode, Erasure, Midnight Oil, Psychedelic Furs, Jesus and Mary Chain, My Bloody Valentine, Ash, Camper Van Beethoven, and James just off the top of my head. ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:39:56 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Gong News Service PSA #56 GONG BACK CATALOGUE TO GET THE TREATMENT IT DESERVES Tue 21 Jan 2003 by The time has come...EMI (the owners of Virgin Records) are to re-release much of the Gong back catalogue this year. The CDs will be re-mastered from the original tapes, be expanded with previously unheard bonus tracks and have totally new, detailed and illustrated booklets. The Radio Gnome Trilogy of Flying Teapot, Angel's Egg and You are due at the end of May and Live Etc, expanded to a double CD, will be available in October. The You CD should also contain the 1974 Quad mix re-mastered for 5.1 surround sound and there is a strong possibility of Flying Teapot and Angel's Egg being similarly treated. This most exciting venture is being co-ordinated by Mark Powell who has overseen many other similar projects, such as a masterful job on the Caravan catalogue a couple of years back. We are in regular contact with him to help to make these releases the best ever - no contest. Also: REISSUES A GO-GO Wed 22 Jan 2003 by jonny Gong related back catalogues which have had, or are just about to have the 're mastered from master tapes, added unheard bonus tracks, new deluxe booklet treatment' are Kevin Ayers (almost completed and due first), Khan (all done awaiting a release date) and Steve Hillage (at the planning stage). Boy it's going to be an expensive year. I can feel the financial pain already. Rich W ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 08:19:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) James Dignan wrote: > As for albums, I have two called True Colo(u)rs (one of each > spelling), two called Legend, two called Love Songs, and used to have > two called A. I have a feeling there's another pair of identically > titled albums in my collection too, but what they are...? Let it Be? ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:30:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: panto revisited > Thomas Rodebaugh wrote: > > is "i told you i was ill" a stock panto line? On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > no, it's Spike Milligan's epitaph. And as so often with Milligna, it is also a venerable joke. - - Mike "on the whole I'd rather be in Philadelphia" Godwin PS Keep those feathered dromeosaurs and mega-crocodiles rolling in! n.p. 'Sleeping with the TV on', the Dictators ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:06:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Bazonka! On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome wrote: > Do Mullighan and panto intersect? Hmmm. That's an interesting question. I think the answer has to be 'no', because Milligna is too intellectual and too surreal. But having said that, his Second-World-War-Desert-Army-meets-nervous-breakdown humour does incorporate a lot of music hall humour in the form of puns and endless innuendo, much of it only intelligible to people failiar with Army slang (which is how he managed to get it past the BBC, I suspect). I saw an old film the other day which included a warder saying to a prisoner "Don't speak when you're talking to me", which Terence claims to have encountered during his army service. So either he lifted it from this film, or he used it earlier in the Goon Show and the film scriptwriters lifted it it from him. - - Mike "Trembling Knees" Godwin n.p. 'Watch out for little cycle Annie' by the Primitives, possibly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:15:58 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: panto revisited On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Michael R Godwin wrote: > And as so often with Milligna, it is also a venerable joke. I recall hearing that when Seacombe died, Milligan said, "Oh dear, I suppose I'm next." Now I can't find a reference to it on the web -- confirm or deny? a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:17:40 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > James Dignan wrote: > > As for albums, I have two called True Colo(u)rs (one of each > > spelling), two called Legend, two called Love Songs, and used to have > > two called A. I have a feeling there's another pair of identically > > titled albums in my collection too, but what they are...? > > Let it Be? But surely he has THREE albums by that title -- Beatles, Replacements, and Laibach.... A brief editorial memorializing Bill Mauldin: - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:46:01 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Doctorin' the guitarist Tom: >>finally, the more i watch tom baker as the doctor and hear his >>dvd commentaries on the same Baker does the commentaries?!?!?! Good lord, I might actually have to experience that. Back to casting the Rock and Roll Doctor Who: from what I'm hearing, Avril Lavigne would be better as Leela than Romana. Remember Leela, the wild girl? My dad always liked her-- I think because, despite the fact that she appeared to be wearing a thick leather garment, she always made it clear that it was a wee bit nipply in the TARDIS. I always held with Romana #2, forget the actress's name. And Sarah Jane was cute. Thus began my infatuation with British women. But the main thing upon which I insist: Mark E. Smith MUST play Davros. And then all the Daleks must speak with his voice. "Exterminate-uh! EXTERMINATE-UH!" Or they can change their catchphrase to "extricate", that would be good, too. ___________ Mike: >>a guy who inadvertenly broke one of the unspoken rules of comic book writing >>by naming a character "The Flicker"... I kept expecting that to be a gag in the film "Election" where Reese Witherspoon played a character named Tracy (?) Flick. In the course of her campaign she made cupcakes that had "PICK FLICK" written on them in frosting. Frosting, mind you, easily smeared. Didn't happen. Pretty good film, though. ________ Elizabeth: >>There's another song in the Eels catalog called "It's a Motherfucker," Being a custodian of the master tapes for the Eels label, I have some weird trivia. It may never have been released, because who buys Eels records at Walmart, but there was a "clean" version of this song recorded. The title? "It's a Monstertrucker". Best lame film dub for the above obscenity: in the TV version of "Presumed Innocent", the nickname "Judge Motherfucker" was changed to "Judge Sumthinorother". Goshdarn, that's funny. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:01:02 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: single fucks the album did anyone catch johnny marr and the healers the other night? i have to say i liked it; but i can't help wondering if the slick tune was a radio friendly single or more indicative of the entire album. sometimes it seems like the worst song on an album becomes the single. listening to the tracks available here http://www.jmarr.com/ i'm thinking that they sound a lot like the stone roses bred with oasis. it was weird to finally hear marr's voice after so many years. does this mean that morrissey will pick up the guitar? ah yes, that great friction that was the smiths. most people love the music but are turned off by the vocal stylings. it's true that the mozzer was clever enough to find a backing band that could approximate the sound of the smiths (though it took two guitarists) and milked (actually, that's the smiths' modus operandi as well - "reissue, repackage, repackage...") it for all that it was worth. i bought his last album (_maladjusted_, which was his worst) and saw that tour (the closest i got to seeing the smiths - he played two of their songs and ended the show early); but was turned off by both. i still listen to the smiths and solo morrissey more than the the or electronic. http://www.morrissey-solo.com/news/1999/images/morrissey-lightbulb.jpg sabina: > on a similar note, what do you think is a good song to introduce hitchcock > to a college ska kid? just wondering... here are a few ideas. i think a lot of them could be covered very well by ska bands. fucking oi! balloon man black snake diamond rock brenda's iron sledge the cars she used to drive the crawling devil's coachman do policemen sing? dwarfbeat elizabeth jade freeze give it to the soft boys goodnight i say grooving on an inner plane i got the hots (i wanna be an) anglepoise lamp if you were a priest innocent boy it's a mystic trip kingdom of love lady waters and the hooded one leppo and the jooves listening to the higsons the man who invented himself meat mellow together midnight fish nasa clapping nightride to trinidad oceanside old pervert only the stones remain the pigworker positive vibrations queen of eyes the rat's prayer the return of the sacred crab the shapes between us turn into animals skool dinner blues sleeping with your devil mask so you think you're in love somewhere apart star of hairs tell me about your drugs tonight tropical flesh mandala ugly nora ultra unbelievable love unsettled viva! sea-tac wading through a ventilator wey wey hep uh hole the yip song you'll have to go sideways young people scream or maybe just have the kid listen to _a can of bees_. that seems like the most consistantly skankin' robyn. eb: >Incidentally, does anyone know how Ralph Nader feels about young boys? i hear he keeps his distance, like he does with young girls; but i would guess that he would feel about them with much trepidation. http://www.mediajihad.com/haqq8.html gss: >greetings father, i was ordained by the church of spiritual humanism and i >am leading a rebellion to kill any higher-power by means of dry, >protected, anal copulation. if i ever meet god, i will fuck him up the ass >until he is dead. see, i'm not all that bad. i did not mean slacker in a >good way. more like a really really bad lover, he smells and farts during >oral sex purposefully because he knows it annoys his lover. i wonder if >jesus gets the child porn channel in heaven? as the song goes, "jesus loves the little children". you should not confuse religion with god. hearing your homocidal plans, i can't help thinking of the line from _saturday night fever_: "you don't fuck the future tony, the future fucks you!" or from _heathers_: "fuck me gently with a chainsaw." kay: >So what measures do Fegs who didn't like mine, advocate? I mentioned perhaps someway of getting the ISPs or credit card companies to do something. No one picked up on that. Or is there some other stradegy that would be more effective. I'm open to ideas here. My ego is smaller than my interest in finding and advocating a workable and effective solutuion. So if anyone has one, I'd love to hear. any real solution would involve completely reworking our educational models. if we separate "problem children" they still need to be given attention. a lot times, these kids fall behind because they just don't learn like others. we need to get away from the repressive compare/compete bullshit that our school systems encourage. we should incorporate respect for diversity and sex education at a young age with consideration for children with different learning styles. the cultural taboo of even discussing these things is an underlying problem that contributes to the larger issue. another major necessity is addressing the mental health needs of everyone. we have a tendency of avoiding preventive care and having to deal with these issues when they reach 'crisis mode'. this applies to troubled kids and adults. at the same time, we would have to work on decreasing our complete trust in authority figures (preists, psychiatrists, police, teachers...) who are as human as anyone else. we need to watch our children much more closely than we do. perhaps more can be done to make sure that opportunites for them to fall into the hands of these predators do not occur: multiple teachers, neighborhood watches, etc; but the fact is that we don't know who's a danger until it happens. legislation only works to punish, not prevent; but heavy penalties for owning this filth seem to already be in place. there should be very stiff penalties for hiding information about potential rapists. of course, sometimes people get falsely acccused; but given the choice between that and another child becoming a victim, i think i'd err on the side of the former. people who are in these positions should be making every effort to avoid any hint of impropriety. anyone who has been convicted of this crime should still be considered a danger. that doesn't mean that they should be castrated; but it does mean that they should be watched. credit card companies probably aren't going to be able to do much of anything since a lot of these insidious production companies can use different distibutors as fronts. still, there should be a blacklist or some kind. of course, in order to track this sort of thing, you need to be ordering it. what's that line from _8 mm_? "dance with the devil and the devil don't change; the devil changes you." rex: >When Kay recently asked about casting Robyn in a TV show, I think she added >"other than the obvious Doctor Who, etc." so I didn't think about it much. >But suddenly Robyn as the Doctor sounds so great to me... the costume would >be the Nextdoorland getup; he'd have the old brown TARDIS interior with the >small console, with, like, Telecasters and lutes and stuff mounted on the >wall. Occasionally his companion-- Romana as portrayed by, oh, let's say, >Sarah Cracknell maybe-- would walk into the cloister room and find him >plucking away at something along the lines of "Fiend Before the Shrine". >Just because that cloister room set alway reminded me of, like, a >quickly-built background that would be the setting for a Mason Williams >segment on the Smothers Brothers show or something. beyond the obvious underwater adventures with ghosts, i envision him visiting figures from television of the past. alternative reality using vintage footage of alfred hitchcock or featuring aged stars like william shatner would be very entertaining. he could get lost on different channels like spice or perhaps vh1 featuring a soft boys ska cover band. maybe each episode could be based on a song. some of the episode titles already sound like hitchcock tunes. ken "the man don't give a fuck" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:12:52 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) At 8:19 AM -0800 1/24/03, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves "Jeff Dwarf" and whispered: >James Dignan wrote: >> As for albums, I have two called True Colo(u)rs (one of each >> spelling), two called Legend, two called Love Songs, and used to have >> two called A. I have a feeling there's another pair of identically >> titled albums in my collection too, but what they are...? > >Let it Be? > Led Zeppelin IV? - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:34:46 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: single fucks the album On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Ken Ostrander wrote: > as the song goes, "jesus loves the little children". man, i hope this wouldn't actually make it mad. > hearing your homocidal plans, i can't help > thinking of the line from _saturday night fever_: ............. homocide? i'll swear it was in self-defense. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:39:17 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: single fucks the album At 01:01 PM 1/24/2003 -0500, Ken Ostrander wrote: >it's true that the mozzer was clever enough to find a backing band that >could approximate the sound of the smiths (though it took two guitarists) Marr couldn't even approximate that "sound" by himself. In the second half of their existence, the Smiths decided they needed a second guitarist to reproduce the sound of the Smiths in the studio, and Craig Gannon was hired to play rhythm guitar for their live shows. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:54:05 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) on 1/24/03 9:17 AM, Christopher Gross at chrisg@gwu.edu wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > >> James Dignan wrote: >>> As for albums, I have two called True Colo(u)rs (one of each >>> spelling), two called Legend, two called Love Songs, and used to have >>> two called A. I have a feeling there's another pair of identically >>> titled albums in my collection too, but what they are...? >> >> Let it Be? > > But surely he has THREE albums by that title -- Beatles, Replacements, and > Laibach.... And most definitely Voice of The Beehive's "Let It Bee". - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:59:56 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: singled out On Fri, 24 Jan 2003, Ken Ostrander wrote: > any real solution would involve completely reworking our educational models. the parenting models are by far the ones that need the most reworking. the real solution comes right back to the real problem, parenting. far too many of today's parents are incompetent twits who have no idea or desire to give the effort proper child rearing requires. no system, civic or otherwise will ever help that correctly. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:21:12 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: How to tune an okapi (various titles) At 12:17 PM -0500 1/24/03, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves "Christopher Gross" and whispered: >Laibach.... I found Laibach's Let It Be at Amoeba last year. That album is an offense against god and nature. I don't even like touching the case. Although I do keep it around as a curiousity, and respect reducing "The Long And Winding Road" to a couple of tinkling notes during a fadeout and nothing more. But that version of "Get Back"... god, I was afraid one of my roommates would come home and overhear me listening to it. Now, Laibach's album of "Sympathy For The Devil" covers... now that's something else entirely. - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 13:00:04 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: single fucks the album >did anyone catch johnny marr and the healers the other night? i >have to say i liked it; but i can't help wondering if the slick tune >was a radio friendly single or more indicative of the entire album. >sometimes it seems like the worst song on an album becomes the >single. I've heard the album...it sounds seven or eight years behind the times. Pure "Britpop," dependent on a drone-groove feel over actual melody. Think Oasis' "Go Let It Out." The prodigal Brion: >The song you're talking about here is actually just called "Fucker." >There's another song in the Eels catalog called "It's a >Motherfucker," which is arguably even prettier. Once I saw E play >them back-to-back live... it doesn't get any better than that, >people. Well, the Eels probably juxtaposed those two songs on the whole tour, because they're also back-to-back on the live album which came out a year or so ago. re Let It Be x 3: Beyond obviously repeated titles like "Greatest Hits," "Live," "MTV Unplugged," "BBC Sessions" and "Larry Hagman," I have three albums called Blow (Foetus, Swallow, SJFs), three albums called Forever (Cracker, Cranes, Simon Bonney) and the aforementioned Let It Be's. Then there's the Peter Gabriel thing, of course. This reminds me of the new movie trailers for "The Guru," which inevitably make me think of that not-so-great Rita "Whatever Happened To?" Tushingham film from 1969. (Strange...the IMDB says she has been acting continually since the early '60s, but there's only one film she has made since 1969's The Bedsitting Room which I've even *heard of*.) Eb ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #28 *******************************