From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #13 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, January 16 2003 Volume 12 : Number 013 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Yes Reissues ["Stewart C. Russell" ] who's to blame ["ross taylor" ] Top tennery againery ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Top tennery againery ["Stewart C. Russell" ] was that? [Jill Brand ] plunkity plunk / failed attempt at namedropping ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Top tennery againery [Miles Goosens ] Re: Top tennery againery [Tom Clark ] Re: Top tennery againery [Aaron Mandel ] talk talk [drew ] Re: c'mon ugly Norah [Tom Clark ] Re: talk talk ["Jason R. Thornton" ] PT [Eb ] Re: Top tennery againery [Eb ] Re: Top tennery againery [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: SNL [Miles Goosens ] Re: Top tennery againery [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: SNL [Eb ] Re: SNL ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Top tennery againery [Aaron Mandel ] The usual dribs n drabs ["Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" ] Re: The usual dribs n drabs [The Great Quail ] Re: the child issue [gSs ] RE: The usual dribs n drabs ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: The usual dribs n drabs ["Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: Re: Yes Reissues Jeffrey wrote: > > I haven't yet bought _The Yes Album_ or > _Fragile_ yet. I have the digitally remastered _The Yes Album_. The channel mixing is a little clunky; it doesn't pan smoothly, but is noticeably stepped. It's still a good album, but I'll bet anyone who is likely to buy it knows it off by heart anyway. Yes, I was a Teenage Prog-Boy ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:49:40 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: who's to blame GQ-- >The problem here is that the image itself is not a >neutral object, nor is it an objective record. It is a deliberate end >product of a process that is illegal and harmful. To willingly purchase this >image-product for pornographic reasons is to support the process by which it >is made. Granted, & Pete T. using his credit card intensifies the stupid factor. But my point was there's a "hard cases make bad law" weirdness to child porn on the internet. Once people get habituated to point & click, & particularly if they think of computers as appliances, clicking on something is just like turning & looking at something. There's a side of very good human natures that desperately needs to see the worst, no matter what (I think of Robt. Louis Stevenson's "The Bottle Imp"). I lot of Townsend's life work has been about honesty. My impression is the English & American law says you are guilty even if you just look. He says he had already stumbled onto some. Maybe he felt he might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb. The *new* nature of internet child porn has been coupled with newly poplular "zero tolerence." I don't think PT deserves prison, but if he escapes it, I will be surprised. Incidentally PT claims he only gave credit card info to a "free" top level of the site, but didn't download. The Village Voice, in its current article about Pee Wee Herman, rather flipply refers to a "smoking gun" on Townsend's PC. Anybody else know more about that? - ---- Randi, on intestinal blockages-- >Twice I was in a coma - once for three days and once for a eleven days. I hope you can join me in saying "life is sweet despite all the shit." :) Glad to see you back. Ross Taylor Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:11:12 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Top tennery againery Stewart: >>(worried that his current favourite CD set came out more than 50 years >>ago: Harry Smith's "American Music Anthology".) Hey, I see no reason to worry about that. Although I *think* the original issue was on vinyl... I just got the conjectural "Volume Four" for Christmas. Really a beautiful little package and quite true to the spirit of the Anthology. It hasn't gotten as much press as I would have expected, so I figure it's worth mentioning in this context. - ----- Jeffrey FF: >>Scott Miller & Aimee Mann Don't Hate Us Too Bad (on Superego)*? >>* title, label, and 2003 release date speculative, i.e., entirely my >>imagination...but it is being recorded, so I'm optimistic Rilly? That's a good title, but I bet there'll bet when it comes out it will have an even better one. And I bet the song titles will be ace! I can't wait to get ahold of the liner notes! So, um, Jeff, did you prefer the Negro Problem lp to the Stew one? I kinda went the other way, but I thought it added up to a pretty good year for the guy ________ From the Sound & Vision list: >>10. (TIE) The Hives "Veni Vidi Vicious", The Vines "Highly Evolved" >>The punks! Garage rock lives. Okay, the Hives I can see. But is it just me or are the Vines (A) way too polished to fit into the "garage" mold, and (B) more or less shit? Man, Nextdoorland is landing on a *lot* of these lists. Must have been a very word-of-mouth, viral-type thing... people discussing their potential top tens and having NDL recommended as something worth considering. Something I aways do with my obscure favorites, anyway. Cool to see. Anyhow... Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:21:42 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Top tennery againery Rex.Broome wrote: > > Hey, I see no reason to worry about that. > Although I *think* the original > issue was on vinyl... as the HSA, yes. But the real originals were pure shellac. > I just got the conjectural "Volume Four" for > Christmas. I must look out for that. Some obscure branch of net.wisdom had it that it sucked, so I must be mistaken. Still, some of the original HSA tracks were bad. I mean, can you keep a straight face through the mutant Cajun version of "Home Sweet Home"? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:22:09 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: was that? Miles wrote: "So on Monday, I got a small, light package from Rhino." Miles, was that a Small Light-Package or a Small-Light Package? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:29:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: plunkity plunk / failed attempt at namedropping Always keen to be at the vanguard of unpopularity, I've taken up oldstyle banjo. It's a very pleasing instrument. Are there any other frailing fegs? On mentioning this on the have_moicy group, holiest of the Holy Modal Rounders Peter Stampfel offered to phone me with some playing tips. He was on the phone for more than 20 minutes, an international call too! Banjo players are the nicest people ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:43:50 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: was that? At 02:22 PM 1/15/2003 -0500, Jill Brand wrote: >Miles wrote: > >"So on Monday, I got a small, light package from Rhino." > >Miles, was that a Small Light-Package or a Small-Light Package? Jill! I'm not discussing that in public! However, you could enter your credit card number at my website... Actually, I would like to get a light-package, unless it would shoot the light out in a laser beam and put my eye out. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:48:16 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Top tennery againery At 11:11 AM 1/15/2003 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >Jeffrey FF: > >>>Scott Miller & Aimee Mann Don't Hate Us Too Bad (on Superego)*? >>>* title, label, and 2003 release date speculative, i.e., entirely my >>>imagination...but it is being recorded, so I'm optimistic > >Rilly? That's a good title, but I bet there'll bet when it comes out it >will have an even better one. And I bet the song titles will be ace! I >can't wait to get ahold of the liner notes! Heh. :-) Seriously, as of the last time I heard, it was going to be all previously-released Miller songs, so you'd have to get your sterile insular wordplay jones from just the liner notes. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 11:44:12 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Top tennery againery on 1/15/03 11:11 AM, Rex.Broome at Rex.Broome@preferredmedia.com wrote: > From the Sound & Vision list: >>> 10. (TIE) The Hives "Veni Vidi Vicious", The Vines "Highly Evolved" >>> The punks! Garage rock lives. > > Okay, the Hives I can see. But is it just me or are the Vines (A) way too > polished to fit into the "garage" mold, and (B) more or less shit? I haven't heard as much of The Vines as I have The Hives, but I can agree based in the simple fact that after hearing a Hives song, I bought and devoured their CD. After hearing about half of a Vines song, I turned them off. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 15:32:25 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Top tennery againery On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Rex.Broome wrote: > So, um, Jeff, did you prefer the Negro Problem lp to the Stew one? I > kinda went the other way, but I thought it added up to a pretty good > year for the guy Yeah, you could compile parts of the two full albums and Sweetboot 2 into a good album, but I feel sort of ripped off about having had to do so myself. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:12:12 -0800 (PST) From: drew Subject: talk talk On the basis of hearing so much about The Spirit of Eden (most recently in that best of the 80s list from Pitchfork we talked so much about) I asked for it for Christmas. I was pretty impressed and have been picking up the other albums. Laughing Stock is pretty much like The Spirit of Eden but hasn't registered on me as much yet. The Colour of Spring is on the way from bn.com, so we'll see how that turns out. > From: "Rex.Broome" [Reverberation] > it kicks the ass out of Bunnymen's 5th record and Electafixion, a pair of > fashion-victim records nonpareil. By their 5th record, you mean the self-titled album with "Bedbugs and Ballyhoo" and "Lips Like Sugar" on it, right? That's got some slight songs on it, I'll grant you, but this is a surprising claim nonetheless. Then again, I was never a huge Bunnymen fan and still am not. I sure wanted to like them -- McCulloch was always gorgeous (or photographed extremely skillfully), and I love his later mellow voice (all the yelping from the early years can be grating) and some of the songs were fantastic -- but I still reach for the skip button even on the compilations. And even though I've played out McCulloch's solo albums for the most part, I still don't think I could get excited about the Bunnymen minus Ian. > okayish but "off" records by some of the > rest (Bossanova/Gold Afternoon Fix Two of my favorite records by the respective artists, of course. I can see objectively why Pixies fans aren't big on Bossanova, but (maybe just because it was my first Pixies record) it's the one I find most enjoyable by a large margin. Go figure. > But the fake Bunnymen record sounds a > lot better 13 years later than any number of Inspiral Carpets albums... It probably did at the time, too, but I still can't remember how the single went. > I am THIS CLOSE to finally naming my latest musical project/band-like thing. > Please select from the following: > > ( ) Rainland > ( ) Challenging Stage I'd be curious to hear what Rainland sounded like, but I think I would probably forget the name Challenging Stage halfway through the first song. > From: Tom Clark > > As promised: > Sound & Vision Magazine's Top Ten CD's of 2002 > > 1. Sleater-Kinney "One Beat" > If their last one was London Calling, this one is The Clash. Rock is saved, again. > > 2. Peter Gabriel "Up" > Ten years after growing Us, he returns to the danger of his youth. Jesus Christ. > 3. Bryan Ferry "Frantic" > We haven't heard music this "Roxy" since Siren. Most unexpected comeback of the year. I still have not gotten around to hearing this, but I'd really like to. > 8. Norah Jones "Come Away with Me" > Jazz? Pop? It's _music_, pure and simple. No wonder so many have gone away with her. Is there really any music there? I thought she only got attention because she's hot. Drew - -- drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:21:33 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: c'mon ugly Norah on 1/15/03 1:12 PM, drew at drew@stormgreen.com wrote: >> 8. Norah Jones "Come Away with Me" >> Jazz? Pop? It's _music_, pure and simple. No wonder so many have gone away >> with her. > > Is there really any music there? I thought she only got attention > because she's hot. She's hot? She's not ugly, but I would hardly classify her as hot. I saw her on SNL recently and I was impressed with her performance. She seems very sincere about her music. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:21:25 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: talk talk At 01:12 PM 1/15/2003 -0800, drew wrote: > > 8. Norah Jones "Come Away with Me" > > Jazz? Pop? It's _music_, pure and simple. No wonder so many have gone > away with her. > >Is there really any music there? I thought she only got attention >because she's hot. Having a famous daddy doesn't hurt, either. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 13:37:53 -0800 From: Eb Subject: PT I've been mostly deleting the Pete Townshend posts, but if no one has posted a link to this material before...it's definitely mandatory reading. http://www.hecktow.com/pete.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 12:56:41 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Top tennery againery > >>Scott Miller & Aimee Mann Don't Hate Us Too Bad (on Superego)*? >>>* title, label, and 2003 release date speculative, i.e., entirely my >>>imagination...but it is being recorded, so I'm optimistic > >Rilly? That's a good title, but I bet there'll bet when it comes out it >will have an even better one. And I bet the song titles will be ace! I >can't wait to get ahold of the liner notes! The thank-you list alone should be worth the purchase price! It's just too bad we have left the vinyl age, when you could inscribe arcane little drolleries in the record's run-out band. I feel like Miller's creative canvas has been tragically reduced. :( Eb np, on endless loop: All Clockwork and No Bodily Fluids Makes Hal A Dull Metal Humbert/In Heaven Every Elephant Baby Wants To Be So Full Of Sting/Paul Simon In The Park With Canticle/But You Can't Pick Your Friends/Vacuum/Genesis/DEFMACROS/HOWSOMETH/INGDOTIME/SALENGTHS/OMETHINGL/ETBFOLLOW/AAFTERNOO/NGETPRESE/NTMOMENTI/FTHINGSWO/NTALWAYSB/ETHISWAYT/BCACAUSEA/BWASTEAFT/ERNOONWHE/NEQBMERET/URNFROMSH/OWLITTLEG/REENPLACE/27 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:31:50 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Top tennery againery Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > Jeffrey FF: > > >>Scott Miller & Aimee Mann Don't Hate Us Too Bad (on Superego)*? > >>* title, label, and 2003 release date speculative, i.e., entirely my > >>imagination...but it is being recorded, so I'm optimistic > > Rilly? That's a good title, but I bet there'll bet when it comes out > it > will have an even better one. And I bet the song titles will be ace! > I > can't wait to get ahold of the liner notes! The song titles, alas, will not be new: the project involves rerecording, with Aimee, existing songs from the Miller catalog. He's apparently in the midst of a big writer's block, with his retirement brought on by (to my mind) ridiculous worries that "the marketplace" is sick of being subjected to his odd little songs. ("The marketplace" doesn't know he exists.) Plus, he and his wife Kristine had a daughter a few months back, so even if he starts writing again, I wouldn't anticipate he would do much touring... > So, um, Jeff, did you prefer the Negro Problem lp to the Stew one? So far, yeah. I should listen to the Stew CD more, though. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: When the only tool you have is an interociter, you tend to treat :: everything as if it were a fourth-order nanodimensional sub-quantum :: temporo-spatial anomaly. :: --Crow T. Maslow ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:46:51 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: SNL At 12:39 AM 1/12/2003 -0500, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Worst season since the Robert Downey/Anthony Michael Hall season, >IMHO...if not worse. I think I've said that about every season beginning with 1992-93. And thinking of that wretched Quaid/Downey/AMH/Joan Cusack season, Terry Sweeney as Nancy Reagan and "The Limits of the Imagination" would cut through the current stuff like... hm, a lukewarm knife through sour cream? But to every generation, a time must come when one says "Gee, Saturday Night Live sucks these days." later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 16:43:27 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Top tennery againery Quoting Eb : > It's just too bad we have left the vinyl age, when you could inscribe > arcane little drolleries in the record's run-out band. I feel like > Miller's creative canvas has been tragically reduced. :( Yes - but he can always encode secret little messages on stray bits of the CD such that, say, if a track is opened as a text file, every Xth character taken together spells out a cute li'l message. Y'know, like the Bible Code. > np, on endless loop: All Clockwork and No Bodily Fluids Makes Hal A > Dull Metal Humbert/In Heaven Every Elephant Baby Wants To Be So Full > Of Sting/Paul Simon In The Park With Canticle/But You Can't Pick Your Friends/Vacuum/Genesis/DEFMACROS/HOWSOMETH/INGDOTIME/SALENGTHS/OMETHINGL/ETBFOLLOW/AAFTERNOO/NGETPRESE/NTMOMENTI/FTHINGSWO/NTALWAYSB/ETHISWAYT/BCACAUSEA/BWASTEAFT/ERNOONWHE/NEQBMERET/URNFROMSH/OWLITTLEG/REENPLACE/27 For those who don't know, Eb's joking only about the "endless loop" part: these are/this is (an) actual song title(s)...if you can call it a title. Or a song. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: sex, drugs, revolt, Eskimos, atheism ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 14:52:29 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: SNL I always tape/watch SNL, but feel pretty sheepish about it. In truth, I think the show pretty much died for good when Phil Hartman left. Or maybe the crucial jump-the-shark moment was the success of the "Wayne's World" films, which forever changed the show into a testing ground for godawful "skit films." Enjoy your points, Lorne.... Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 17:58:05 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: SNL Miles Goosens wrote: > > But to every generation, a time must come when > one says "Gee, Saturday > Night Live sucks these days." like Viz Comic's eternal strapline: "Not As Funny As It Used To Be" ... ? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2003 18:03:59 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Top tennery againery On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > For those who don't know, Eb's joking only about the "endless loop" > part: these are/this is (an) actual song title(s)...if you can call it a > title. Or a song. Definitely plural. On the vinyl, there's no indication that those tracks are all grouped together, and as I recall there's actually a gap (or at least, a section too quiet for me to hear) somewhere in the middle. When I first got LN, I mentally filed everything after "Mammoth Gardens" and before "Saint Michael" as a sequence of six or seven experimental tracks. But then it was all tracked as one thing on the CD. And I guess "Little Ivory" is a real song in a way the others aren't but it didn't seem that way at the time. It seems to me like, to the extent that this matters at all, the vinyl way was better -- the list of names was actually overwhelming and it wasn't clear which part was what. It's like including a lyric sheet with your album: nobody's going to sit down and read the whole lyric sheet, but many people will check it if they're curious about a particular line. Tracking several of the noisy bits together on the CD makes it ostentatious in the wrong way. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:06:55 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: The usual dribs n drabs Townshend I just got a pop up ad saying "Is Pornography saved on your PC? Stop wondering and clean your computer now." Jeez Mareez, the vultures circle. Call me egocentrically naive but I still hope Townshend's innocent in the way that really matters(I gather he's technically guilty.) I'm probobly too liberal about this in general, but I don't like the idea of prison for anyone who isn't actively harmful to others. Its just a waste. Fine him huge for being stupid and to make a point. Then court-mandate the breakup of the Who and sentence him to 200 solo acoustic shows a year in small halls for 3 years;-). If however, he really is an active perv -- then jail is just. Plus theres always chemical castration... Drew--the point you made about repulsion/fascination and compulsion went thru my mind too, especially cause there can be different degrees of it. Also, well, artists are notorious for not being pin-downable in the usual ways. There may well be some of it present, but why call it the main motive(and assume more fascination than repulsion) without more evidential back-up? Why grab for the lowest possible motive at this point where we're still mostly just speculating? Unless you know something I don't. And of course the great irony of all this is that the publicity from this will probobly discourage child porn from slipping in towards the mainstream as it has been doing. If it pushes it back into ghettodom, where Townshend said he thought it would be in his essay, then some good will have come from this. If more people feel its dangerous to pay for it, cutting demand will cut supply. For awhile. - --------------------- Drew: >8. Norah Jones "Come Away with Me" >Jazz? Pop? It's _music_, pure and simple. No wonder so many have gone away with her. >Is there really any music there? I thought she only got attention >because she's hot. Ill stand up for her. I like her stuff, her voice has a melencholy, pleasing burr to it. Its light, but its nuanced light. She's hot? Who's her daddy?(Can this phrase ever be used again without echos of Donald Duck sounding in one's ears;-?) Famous black guy last-named Jones? If its Quincy that would explain the rampant good taste of the arragements. Especially piano, she tends to have really nice piano going. I stumbled onto her stuff doing a genre search on Morpheus, liked her phrasing on "The Nearness of You" and downloaded more. Now I gather shes popular. She's jazz-pop-folk and the pop folkly stuff becomes more interesting cause she brings non-pop folky phrasing to it. And can you really -not- like "Come Away With Me?" Yeah its sentimental, but bitterweet and slightly sophisticated sentimental. And "Dont Know Why" is downright elegent. - ------------- Rex So, if we knock you down and start pulling your ears and pushing your nose, what sounds -do- you make? "Rainland" sounds unremittingly depressing to me, I'd be more likely to go hear a band called "Challanging Stage" since that sounds more varied and ... challanging. Kay _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 15:15:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: The usual dribs n drabs On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome wrote: > Who's her daddy?(Can this phrase ever be used again without echos of Donald > Duck sounding in one's ears;-?) Famous black guy last-named Jones? If its > Quincy that would explain the rampant good taste of the arragements. > Especially piano, she tends to have really nice piano going. Ravi "I played Monterey AND the concert for Bangladesh, which is more than George Harrison did" Shankar. He's good, but I always liked Alla Rakha best. He once played here at Bath Univ, but he was obviously past his best, and just plinking along. - - Mike "let's have another drum solo" Godwin PS I'm back I'm back I'm on the right track as a matter of fact I'm ... whoops! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:24:52 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: The usual dribs n drabs Kay writes, > If however, he really is an active perv -- then jail is > just. Plus theres always chemical castration... Jeeeeeezus, Kay! I hope this was just off-the-cuff. First of all, your statement implies that the British government has some sort of way of determining both (a) whether or not Pete is a "pervert" and (b) his degree of pervert activity, essentially based on what Internet sites he has visited. And then, you recommend chemical castration? According to sources, the guy paid for one site, of which he previously notified the authorities. I mean, castration for a serial rapist, ok; but I think you are being a bit cavalier, if not draconian..... - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:28:47 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: the child issue jeez, this is almost as difficult to talk about as my parent's sexuality, but in a different way. the whole idea of exploiting children can turn me violent, but exploiting them on a sexual level deserves the most severe punishment. pete has been a musical idol for me since i was about 12 and this really puts a git in my gander or whatever the hell the saying is. once the evidence gathered at his home has been made public, then we will get a good look at his true intentions. gSs np - the drunken politician leaps upon the street where mothers weep and the saviors who are fast asleep they wait for you and I wait for them to interupt me drinking from my broken cup and ask me to open up the gate for you. bd ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 10:50:54 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: The usual dribs n drabs On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome wrote: > Who's her daddy?(Can this phrase ever be used again without echos of Donald > Duck sounding in one's ears;-?) Famous black guy last-named Jones? If its > Quincy that would explain the rampant good taste of the arragements. > Especially piano, she tends to have really nice piano going. Does that mean that Peggy Lipton is her mom? Michael NP The Flaming Lips The Soft Bulletin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:58:21 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: the drab and the desperate On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, The Great Quail wrote: > Jeeeeeezus, Kay! I hope this was just off-the-cuff. First of all, your > statement implies that the British government has some sort of way of > determining both (a) whether or not Pete is a "pervert" and (b) his degree > of pervert activity, essentially based on what Internet sites he has > visited. i believe the british know we are all perverts. these guys are light years beyond perv. and i believe should be publicly executed through torturous means. surgical castration without anesthetic would be kind compared to what i have in mind. is a prostitute ever really a prostitute by choice? ......................................................... "When police raided the house suspected of being the ring's base of operations late Monday night, they found seven girls and women, ranging in age from 13 to 21. At least two were juveniles, Simon said..... "She just broke loose from the crowd and ran cover to me... and was asking for help," McConnell said, adding that she was yelling, "Don't let me leave with them." http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Midwest/01/15/prostitution.ring/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 16:29:06 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: Re: The usual dribs n drabs I wrote, God answered- > > Who's her daddy?(Can this phrase ever be used again without echos of >Donald > > Duck sounding in one's ears;-?) Famous black guy last-named Jones? If >its > > Quincy that would explain the rampant good taste of the arragements. > > Especially piano, she tends to have really nice piano going. > >Ravi "I played Monterey AND the concert for Bangladesh, which is more than >George Harrison did" Shankar. Really? Are you joshing me? Cause thats darn interesting. Especially since, from her voice, I just assumed she was black. Ive been relistening to her stuff since I posted. One more thing I like are her sparse lyrics. And its funny, she does jazz so well but its the folky stuff that wins my heart, the ones I mentioned plus --"Shoot the Moon", "7 years", Something is calling You" --subtle folky stuff, sweet but not too sweet, therefore all the more sweet. Hmmm--and now I realize there is a faintly Indian drum thing going on in the background of "Something is Calling You." What an unusual medley of influences she must have grown up with. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #13 *******************************