From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V12 #8 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 11 2003 Volume 12 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- reap [Ken Ostrander ] Plants and Squids and Rocks and Things ["Rex.Broome" ] Another American journalist reap [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Jellyfish box set? ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] Get Back again [Tom Clark ] "we practice but we don't know" ["ross taylor" ] Say it Isn't Moe! ["FS Thomas" ] Backups on Daisy Bomb [Scott Hunter McCleary ] Re: Another American journalist reap ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Another American journalist reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Fun with bad formatting [Jeff Dwarf ] Hands Off, Pete: ["FS Thomas" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:15:19 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: reap sarah mcclendon at 92 http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/09/obituaries/09MCCL.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:26:41 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Plants and Squids and Rocks and Things Sabina: >>the whole "poisonous plant" thing is from the soft boy's song "my mind is >>connected" where robyn sings "and it's only a poisonous plant and it's calling >>your name". i happen to like that very much for a strange reason, and i always >>sign my letters like that. it's also fun because it confuses people. Robyn's stuff is great for that. For years, if I didn't have a legit subject line for any given e-mail, I would just title it "Victorian Squid". Nobody ever said a thing about it, which probably says more about me and what my friends consider normal for me than anything else. The poisonous plant, having germinated from a pod of rock and roll, calls your name and lures you into its acid-filled cup blossom where you circle listlessly in lazy circles before descending into its gullet... the organic equivalent of a rock and roll toilet, in fact. At least that's how I hear it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:33:15 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Jellyfish box set? Has anybody heard, seen, placed his/her tongue upon, or purchased the "Fan Club" Jellyfish box set? If so, do tell. Well, maybe not about the tongue part, but you get my drift. . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:37:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Another American journalist reap Will McDonough http://espn.go.com/classic/obit/s/2003/0110/1490265.html ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:47:09 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: Jellyfish box set? > Has anybody heard, seen, placed his/her tongue upon, or purchased the "Fan > Club" Jellyfish box set? If so, do tell. Well, maybe not about the > tongue part, but you get my drift. I bought it when it came out. It's a fun set but nothing mind-boggling. For completist dorks only. The Live discs are generally more interesting than the Demo discs. But the demos for the songs they offered up for Ringo's Time Takes Time Collection are pretty cool. And "Ignorance is Bliss" has to be the greatest song ever written about Super Mario Bros. If you are the type of person that thinks they would want it you probably will dig the hell out of it. I bought direct from the label at www.notlame.com I was very happy with their service. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:05:38 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Another American journalist reap Jeff "this is my feg name" Dwarf: > > Will McDonough sheesh, all these folks getting past the holiday rally, then dropping like flies early/mid January... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:10:59 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: real tech support message I'm the e-mail tech support rep for my work this week. We get some good ones. This one must be shared: There has been a terrible mistake. My son has used my credit card to open this account, and hes going to get his ass beat for it !! Please accept my apology, but I must ask that my account be terminated at once. And all information about us lost, preferably burned. Thanks alot. Now if you'll excuse me I have to go smack that boy around a bit. Have a great day. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 11:09:02 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Get Back again Police recover original Beatles tapes. http://apnews.myway.com//article/20030110/D7OFGU180.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:06:57 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: "we practice but we don't know" Drew & Sabina-- I've been listening to Star for Bram a lot myself recently, spurred by how much I like Side 3. When it came out I had my typical reaction -- not enuf rock, not enuf references to Noddy Holder or TSB Rock School. I should probably just get some Slade & Offspring records & after getting my rocks off on them settle down to good music. Anyway, Bram has sure grown on me. The songwriting is superb. He even does a good job w/ the blues in "I Wish I Liked You" -- I bet Time Out of Mind is responsible for that. Even as for rock, "The Underneath" is a great track. He makes the split between ironic grumble and passionate cry meaningful. I also like that on casual listening it sounds like a straightforward political/class complaint, but it really has some odd twists & turns. The electric 1974 (one of my fav songs) is not just a knock off, but a good version, chugging in a "Box of Rain" kind of way. Aside from "Antwoman Dub," the weakest spot for me is "Jesus & Me," which has interesting lyrics but sounds too much like another fav of mine, "Serpent at the Gates of Wisdom." This reinforces my feeling that on much of Nextdoorland Robyn sort of pulled back. The lyrics are more narrative, the vocals broadcast emotion more conventionally. As I've said before, this makes sense for a (*slightly*) more commercial record & group effort -- a cooperative feeling of "I don't want to saddle the band w/ my weirdest lyrics." I also feel that when he tries to be more conventionally emotional/personal he risks sounding more like a "poplular performer" persona & that often his weirdest is his most truly personal. So, as much as I've loved the band sound the last 3-4 albums, I look forward to the songs on the upcoming one. Ross Taylor belated xmas present: Criterion Monterey Pop box! Tiny Tim, illuminated only by a bic lighter! Need a new email address that people can remember Check out the new EudoraMail at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 16:36:00 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Say it Isn't Moe! http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/01/10/bee.gee.hospitalized.ap/index.ht ml F S Thomas ferris@ochremedia.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 19:21:23 -0500 From: Scott Hunter McCleary Subject: Backups on Daisy Bomb Ah the Dear Janes. Even see what they look like: http://www.thedearjanes.com/biog.html - -- ========= SH McCleary Prodigal Dog Communications PO Box 6163 Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@prodigaldog.com www.prodigaldog.com www.1480kHz.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:54:37 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Another American journalist reap Stewart reaps... > > Will McDonough > > sheesh, all these folks getting past the holiday rally, then dropping like flies early/mid January... "He died late Thursday at his home in Hingham while watching sports news on television," said Don Skwar, the Globe's sports editor. Kudos to Will for hitting one of the seven "great ways to go:" 7) od'ing on extract from the pineal gland of the adult male iguana; 6) being mauled by a circus lion in a convenience store in Petaluma, CA; 5) watching sports news on television; 4) parachuting into helicopter blades at an air show; 3) with three hookers and 6oz of Brazilian cocaine in a Las Vegas hotel room; 2) under the wheels of your scorned mistress' Bentley 1) Like the King, baby! That being said, the airwaves will be smoother and less interesting without Will's always accurate and occasionally venemous sideline reports. Not a good thing. Michael "couldn't they have taken Thiesmann instead?" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 22:00:40 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Another voice of reason... (fwd) My husband forwarded this to me from work. I liked it; you can't get much more candid than this. Jill http://www.sunspot.net/news/sns-othernews-poet-ct,0,7598846.story?coll=bal-features-specials From the Chicago Tribune British foe of Bush takes poetic license By Tom Hundley Chicago Tribune staff reporter January 10, 2003 LONDON -- With a terse 31-word verse attacking President Bush, British poet laureate Andrew Motion added his voice to the growing chorus of opposition to a war against Iraq. They read good books, and quote, but never learn a language other than the scream of rocket-burn. Our straighter talk is drowned but ironclad: elections, money, empire, oil and Dad. Normally, the poet laureate is expected to stick to verses celebrating Britain's royal births or weddings, but Motion, who was tapped by Queen Elizabeth in 1999 to fill the vacancy created by the death of Ted Hughes, indicated from the outset that he would break the mold. "I want to honor the traditional responsibility to write poems about royal occasions and so on," he told the BBC. "But I am also very keen to diversify the job, or at least make those poems part of the wider national issues that I also want to write about." The poem, titled "Causa Belli," a Latin phrase for "cause or pretext for war," was first published Thursday on the front page of the Guardian newspaper. It reflects a widely held European view about Bush's motives in his confrontation with Saddam Hussein. "It's as much to do with oil, imperialism and a sort of strange father fixation," he told the Guardian. "This is not a poem about whether we should go to war. We can't decide that because we don't yet know [if Iraq has prohibited weapons]. It's a poem about wishing to be more candid," said the 50-year-old poet, who teaches at the University of East Anglia. Britain is the only European ally that has offered the U.S. military support against Iraq, but Prime Minister Tony Blair is coming under increasing pressure not only from poets but also from his own Labor Party to distance himself from the Bush administration's timetable for war. Members of Parliament are demanding to see hard proof that the Iraqi regime is concealing weapons before committing Britain to an attack. Thus far the inspectors have come up empty-handed. Blair, meanwhile, is walking a fine line, trying to help the U.S. put pressure on Iraq by contributing to the military buildup in the Persian Gulf but assuring his political base that he is not blindly jumping into a war. According to one report, quoting an unnamed senior Whitehall source, Blair has been urging the U.S. to hold off on its war plans until late autumn. "The prime minister has made it clear that unless there is a smoking gun, the inspectors have to be given time to keep searching," the source said. "There is an assumption that there will be a campaign before the summer because of the heat [in Iraq]. The autumn would be just as sensible a time and in the meanwhile Saddam would be thoroughly constrained by the inspectors," he said. But others, including Defense Minister Geoff Hoon, dismiss these reports. In some ways, Blair's Cabinet reflects Bush's, with hawkish voices from the Defense Ministry tempered by more moderate ones from the Foreign Ministry. On Thursday, a spokesman for Blair said people had to "be patient" but denied the report that Britain wanted to postpone the war until the autumn. The poetic protest is not without precedent. Alfred Lord Tennyson was the poet laureate when, in 1864, he wrote "The Charge of the Light Brigade" about a battle in the Crimean war in which brave soldiers ("Theirs not to reason why/Theirs but to do and die") follow the foolish orders of their commanders. Copyright ) 2003, The Chicago Tribune - -- Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:34:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Another American journalist reap Michael Wells wrote: > Stewart notes: > > Jeff Dwarf reaps... > > > Will McDonough > > sheesh, all these folks getting past the holiday rally, then > > dropping like flies early/mid January... > > "He died late Thursday at his home in Hingham while watching sports > news on television," said Don Skwar, the Globe's sports editor. SportsCenter, according to Mike Barnacle on the Imus show this morning (I was producing the local broadcast, I wasn't actually listening to the fatuous of whiner). > Kudos to Will for hitting one of the seven "great ways to go:" > > 7) od'ing on extract from the pineal gland of the adult male iguana; > 6) being mauled by a circus lion in a convenience store in Petaluma, > CA; I thought this was changed to Novato a few years back. > 5) watching sports news on television; > 4) parachuting into helicopter blades at an air show; > 3) with three hookers and 6oz of Brazilian cocaine in a Las Vegas > hotel room; > 2) under the wheels of your scorned mistress' Bentley > 1) Like the King, baby! > > That being said, the airwaves will be smoother and less interesting > without Will's always accurate and occasionally venemous sideline > reports. Not a good thing. Indeed. In the past 13 months, we've lost him and Dick Schaap, not to mention Jack Buck and the retirements of Ernie Harwell and Lon Simmons. The Rome-ification of the sports media is becoming far too complete. > Michael "couldn't they have taken Thiesmann instead?" Wells The sad thing is, as annoying as Thiesmann is, I could probably come up with around 70 I'd want taken out first. ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 20:51:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Fun with bad formatting http://www.oregonlive.com/living/oregonian/index.ssf?/xml/story.ssf/html_standard.xsl?/base/living/104108024446620.xml ===== "Propaganda is that branch of the art of lying which consists in very nearly deceiving your friends without quite deceiving your enemies." -- F.M. Cornford "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 15:52:11 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: Hands Off, Pete: LONDON (Reuters) - British rock star Pete Townshend (news), guitarist with legendary band The Who, on Saturday admitted paying to view Internet child pornography but denied he was a pedophile and said it was for research purposes. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=638&ncid=762&e=1&u=/nm/200301 11/en_nm/people_townshend_dc and again at http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/01/11/uk.townshend/index.html ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V12 #8 ******************************