From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #433 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 28 2002 Volume 11 : Number 433 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The name thing ["Stewart C. Russell" ] The Name of the Rex ["Rex.Broome" ] Congrats and such [Jill Brand ] Re: Congrats and such [tanter@tarleton.edu] Fwd: DUETS WITH DENI - NEW YEAR - NEW DAYS - NEW TIMES! [dances with virg] Re: Oh, and one more birth story... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Name a day ["Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" ] Welcomes of various sorts [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] yet another reap... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Name a day [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Welcomes of various sorts [Ken Weingold ] Re: Welcomes of various sorts ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: yet another reap... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] A Kind of Wrap-Up ["Michael Wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:59:29 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: The name thing Ken Weingold wrote: > > Alabama as well. Well, we did invent the modern world: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:29:55 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The Name of the Rex Eb: >>I really didn't start building a contemporary record collection until >>I was in fifth or sixth grade. Earlier than me by a long shot... I figure 8th Grade at the earliest, probably more like 9th Grade when I started into "college rock" and '60's bands, and bought a few records I still have (let's say 1986 or so; by '88 I was a serious alt-dork). Everything on the radio sounded like shit to me before that... although I now have CD's of a lot of the 8-tracks I was raised on (Outlaw Country stuff, for the most part). ____ Jeffrey FF: >>Congratulations! I'm sure the young lass will overcome her handicap of >>sharing a birthday with me. Hey, cool... happy belated birthday! Betcha I'll remember next year! ____ Brian on the lost Strummer Songs: >>Although I don't know the songs, apparently they are the holy grail for >>a lot of Strummer fans. They're great. Intimate and oddly touching, just Joe, an electric guitar, and some oddbal percussion and *flute* on "Afro-Cuban" (and a bicycle horn on "Burnin' Lights", I do believe). I have tapes of incomplete versions of both made on my shit radio off of French radio in 1991-- dunno where the station got their copies but they were in substantial rotation. A friend of mine just reminded me that he once met Strummer in LA, sometime well between "Earthquake Weather" and the Mescaleros, and he specifically talked about recording "Afro-Cuban". If I find 'em, I'll let you know. __________ Name Thing cont'd. I've heard that going by ones middle name is a sort of Southern phenomenon, but (say it with me) West Virginia ain't really the South, and I've rarely heard of someone using their middle name without have some kind of story as to *why*. Usually has to do with family pressure to use a name the parents don't really like. I never have used the "James" except for one weekend at some kinda high school seminar in Altoona, PA. Considered switching to it when I moved 3000 miles from home to go to college, but I realized I would would forever be failing to respond to my "own" name, so I stuck with Rex. I did do a few comic strips under the pen name "Jimmy B.", but that was basically to differentiate them from the other comic strips I did under my "real" name. Jimmy B. was a substantially shittier artist than Rex, but more subversive in his subject matter. Interestingly, with all the opportunities for anonymity and/or pseudonyms in the online world, I've never had an e-mail address that was anything other than an approximation of my "IRL" name. Too old for safety pins and spiked hair, I guess. - -Rex (pretty much just Rex) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 21:33:30 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Congrats and such Congrats to Rex on his Christmas bundle. My daughter was born on December 18th, but that was some 11 years ago. Let me recommend the celebration of half birthdays as Ridley gets older. It's a bit of a clobbering to get all the hoopla and presents at once, and then to have nothing for the rest of the year. So, Ferris, what are we to call you? My assumption is "Ferris," but if you are in a "Scott" mode, you could be obliged. LOTR s p o i l e r I went to see the Two Towers all by myself today (I love going to the movies by myself) while everyone else in the family went skiing. My daughter wisely has no desire to see it (she scares easily), and my son and husband have a date to go together, so I went to one of those gigantic new theaters with stadium seating and a HUGE screen, and managed to run to the bathroom only once (can't live without Diet Coke, and can't live with it). I rather enjoyed the movie, though there is a fair amount of posturing. Kay, you said that you thought of Hi Ho Silver when Gandalf appeared on his steed. Did you have any desire to sing "oh-ee-oh ee-ohhhhh um" (from the Wizard of Oz) during the last battle? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:55:47 -0600 (CST) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: Re: Congrats and such My Robyn is July 4, another awkward day because school is out and people go away to family reunions and things so few kids are around for parties. My husband is Dec. 24 and that's another tough one. On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Jill Brand wrote: > Congrats to Rex on his Christmas bundle. My daughter was born on December > 18th, but that was some 11 years ago. Let me recommend the celebration of > half birthdays as Ridley gets older. It's a bit of a clobbering to get > all the hoopla and presents at once, and then to have nothing for the rest > of the year. > > So, Ferris, what are we to call you? My assumption is "Ferris," but if > you are in a "Scott" mode, you could be obliged. > > LOTR > > s > p > o > i > l > e > r > > I went to see the Two Towers all by myself today (I love going to the > movies by myself) while everyone else in the family went skiing. My > daughter wisely has no desire to see it (she scares easily), and my son > and husband have a date to go together, so I went to one of those gigantic > new theaters with stadium seating and a HUGE screen, and managed to run to > the bathroom only once (can't live without Diet Coke, and can't live with > it). I rather enjoyed the movie, though there is a fair amount of > posturing. Kay, you said that you thought of Hi Ho Silver when Gandalf > appeared on his steed. Did you have any desire to sing "oh-ee-oh > ee-ohhhhh um" (from the Wizard of Oz) during the last battle? > > Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 00:47:39 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Fwd: DUETS WITH DENI - NEW YEAR - NEW DAYS - NEW TIMES! sorry for the short notice on this one! the episode of duets with deni with robyn as her guest will be reaired this weekend. broadcast times on new york city cable systems are listed below; the program is also streamed at www.mnn.org at 10 pm eastern time. woj >Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 08:47:54 -0800 >From: "Deni Bonet" >To: woj@smoe.org >Subject: DUETS WITH DENI - NEW YEAR - NEW DAYS - NEW TIMES! > >HAPPY NEW YEAR NEW from "DUETS WITH DENI" >Hosted by Deni Bonet > >Happy New Year EVERYBODY! I hope your holiday has been great so far... > >I wanted to inform you that DUETS WITH DENI is now on TV in Manhattan, >Queens, and Brooklyn. Here's the NEW TIMES and stations: > >* MANHATTAN * >Time Warner Cable * Channel 56 >RCN Cable * Channel 108 >SUNDAYS at 10 PM >Streamed live over the Internet at: www.mnn.org >Click on Channel 56 > >* BROOKLYN * >Time Warner Cable * Channel 35 >Cablevision * Channel 68 >TUESDAYS at 2:30 PM & 10:30 PM > >* QUEENS * >Time Warner Cable >THURSDAYS at 1 PM * Channel 35 >SATURDAYS at 7:30 PM * Channel 34 > >This Sunday, in Manhattan and STREAMED LIVE over the Internet at >www.mnn.org You can catch DUETS WITH DENI featuring my guest ROBYN >HITCHCOCK. This was a very special show, and one not to be missed this >time around. > >Schedule for Queens and Brooklyn are on my website at: www.denibonet.com > > >From now on, I won't be sending weekly e-mails, as it is too complicated > trying to keep all of the guest lists together for all of the different > stations. Please check out my website for updates, or feel free to email > me at: deni@denibonet.com > >Thanks so much for all of your support over the past year. I couldn't do >this without you! I wish all of you and yours a very happy, successful, >and entertaining New Year. >Love, >Deni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 00:58:15 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Oh, and one more birth story... Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > On an unrelated six-degrees-of-separation note, I just found out that > my > brother-in-law practices jin shin jyutsu (vaguely akin to acupressure > but > more cosmical) for Lucinda Williams' mom. Trippy. Oh, I can do better than that: one of my best friends used to do Lucinda's hair. So there. > -Rex, who also just found out that Ridley shares a birthday with Billy > Bragg, Mike Watt (for Eb) and Ed Kuepper (for James) Plus Patti Smith, Peter Criss, Kiefer Sutherland, and Dr. Mudd (of ministering to John Wilkes Booth fame). And Uri Geller. Uh, and Alan Parsons. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" np: Marmoset _Mishiwaka_ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:48:25 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Spoiled Two Towers Spoilers >From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" >Subject: Spoiled Two Towers Spoilers > >Saw "The Two Towers." Kay, that saved me a lot of typing :) Also add: The shoddy entmoot and lack of huorns and both books being about two chapters too short. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:50:20 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: Name a day Rex -- Congrats and best wishes. - ------------- Jill: My daughter was born on December 18th, but that was some 11 years ago. Let me recommend the celebration of half birthdays as Ridley gets older. It's a bit of a clobbering to get all the hoopla and presents at once, and then to have nothing for the rest of the year. I totally agree with the above(as a Dec 28th babe. Yup, today is my b-day.) Choose some date at least several months away and call it altra-bday and celebrate it as if it were the real thing. Otherway, her own day will get lost in the frenzy tween Thanksgiving and New Years. Its not just the presents, its the feeling that you have a special day, that you, in some small way, are special. More Jill: Did you have any desire to sing "oh-ee-oh ee-ohhhhh um" (from the Wizard of Oz) during the last battle? :-)When the troops were filing into the black gate of Mordor I sure did. Was it intentional? - ------------------- The name thing Let me once again throw into the name game that in the Northeastern US upper-middle and upper classes, using family names as middle(required, usually mom's maiden name) and first(encouraged but not manditory)names is a class marker. As examples of the latter(which is most common with boys,) I can attest to a Ridley Finch, Baird Standish, Stowe Walker, Carlyle Fraser, Ripley Lincoln, and am cousin to a Ramsey Moran. Female versions of this, while rarer, include Judson Bright and Hadley Steele. I like this cause it makes for unusual first names. I like unusual first names. And as for the Southern tradition--why isnt Bayard contributing to this thread, or has he and I missed it? He might have some funny stories--------- Brian Ho: >The shoddy entmoot Bastard. I was trying -not- to remember that;-) - ------------- Kay _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_smartspamprotection_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:15:08 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Welcomes of various sorts congrats to Rex and all the other new parents on the list! There seem to have been a few lately, no? >There are a couple things at play. First off, oddball family tradition. My >name is James Rex Broome, but I have always, always, been "Rex" to one and >all. So I'm used to having strangers call me "James"-- helps to peg >telemarketers right away, which is nice. Of course, I'm #3 in a line of >"James Mother's-Maiden-Name Broome"'s, and I was called by the middle name >because there were already a buncha Jim Broomes. heh. Sounds familiar. Around my family, I am called Jamie. There is also a Jim, a Jimmy, a Jay, a Hamish, and a Seamas among my relations. Like Ferris/Scott, I can often date people by their use of the names Jamie and James as pre- or during/post- university. Unfortunately, when some of my old school-friends joined the social group I was in at varsity, things started getting confused. >> You got a Scottish connection there, Rex? It's the sort of thing we do. it's also fairly common in New Zealand - but often for stage purposes rather than for other reasons. For example, Otago's best known actor is Nigel, erm, Sam Neill. And almost every member of Split Enz used their middle names (Brian Timothy Finn, for instance). I'm glad that neil Finn kept his first name though - Mullane Finn would have sounded weird. I do recall that my (former) PhD supervisor is called Robert by everyone except his family, who call him Paul. And welcome to Sabina! Sounds like you have wise parents - you got a kick-start into music that most people don't discover till they get to college (if at all). >>I got my first two Kiss albums (Kiss and Hotter Than Hell) when I was >>about three. :) As if Sabina didn't make me feel old, even Ken's getting in on the act. Still, according to my mum, my first words were 'yeah, yeah, yeah' - said while the Beatles were on TV. So that's something at least. >Eb, having the worst Christmas imaginable :( sory to hear that. Hope things pick up in the new year. And happy birthday to Jeff Fortissimo, too! James PS - hope that you NE US fegs aren't too snowed in - I hear it's been pretty bad up there. I won't depress you by mentioning what the weather's like here :) nf - Barbados (azure, a pale or, upon which a barbe sable. That is, vertically striped blue-yellow-blue, with a black trident on the yellow stripe) np - Lemon Jelly. Not particularly original, but very well done, for all that. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:52:43 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: yet another reap... from BBC-online: "Ian Macnaughton, who directed the groundbreaking TV comedy sketch show Monty Python's Flying Circus, has died at the age of 76, according to The Guardian. Macnaughton was asked to take charge of the series from 1969 to 1972 following his work directing Spike Milligan's Q5 shows. Born in Glasgow, he was also a producer and actor, appearing at the 1948 Edinburgh Festival and in TV shows including The Army Game and The Ballad of Peckham Rye. After his collaborations with the Python team he went on to work with comic actor Leonard Rossiter on the 1970s ITV sitcom Rising Damp." James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 17:16:40 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Name a day Quoting "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" : > Let me once again throw into the name game that in the Northeastern US > upper-middle and upper classes, using family names as middle(required, > usually mom's maiden name) and first(encouraged but not manditory)names > is a > class marker. As examples of the latter(which is most common with boys,) > I can attest to a Ridley Finch, Baird Standish, Stowe Walker, Carlyle > Fraser, > Ripley Lincoln, and am cousin to a Ramsey Moran. Female versions of > this, > while rarer, include Judson Bright and Hadley Steele. > > I like this cause it makes for unusual first names. I like unusual first > names. True enough...see also Parker Posey. But you'll note that this works best, to my ears, with family names originating in the British Isles. Skoraczewski Jackson, Vitelloni Schmidt, or Kleindienst Swenson sound more like advertising agencies than people's names... ..Jeff, all three of whose names (Jeffrey James Norman) are relatively common as given and surnames J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: we make everything you need, and you need everything we make ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 18:52:48 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Welcomes of various sorts On Sun, Dec 29, 2002, James Dignan wrote: > >>I got my first two Kiss albums (Kiss and Hotter Than Hell) when I was > >>about three. :) > > As if Sabina didn't make me feel old, even Ken's getting in on the act. > Still, according to my mum, my first words were 'yeah, yeah, yeah' - said > while the Beatles were on TV. So that's something at least. Does it help if this was around 1975 or 1976? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:53:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Welcomes of various sorts James Dignan wrote: > > np - Lemon Jelly. Not particularly original, but very well done, for all that. which one? lemonjelly.ky, or Lost Horizons? I got the latter for a whole C$10 used, and love it. "Nice Weather for Ducks" was clearly influenced by the song I had to audition for primary school choir ("Every Duck Loves Swimming in the Sunshine"). I really wish it didn't have "Experiment No 6", which creeps me out every time. I really wish I knew what that experiment was meant to achieve. They shoulda put "The Staunton Lick" again in its place. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 20:58:41 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: yet another reap... James Dignan wrote: > from BBC-online: > > "Ian Macnaughton, ... After his collaborations with the Python team > he went on to > work with comic actor Leonard Rossiter on the 1970s ITV sitcom Rising > Damp." hey, don't forget the comic classic, "Le Petomane", directed by Macnaughton and starring Rossiter. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:55:36 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: A Kind of Wrap-Up Congratulations Rex! You are truly blessed. Now you can dress Ridley up as a baby lion and do that bit at the beginning of "The Lion King" with 'The Circle of Life' blasting on the stereo. At least that's what I would do. === I'll second Quail's recommendation for the longer director's cut of 'Fellowship' - major complaints weren't really addressed but lots of little finishing touches were added...the whole thing feels smoother, much less herky-jerky. And Hobbiton is even more miraculous. === I've heard a number of shows now from the last tour and the songs that keep jumping out at me are "Vegetable Man" and "Narcissus" - they really seem to have that punch, that SB's sound but in different ways. I think they'll both make my year-end "best of" compiliation. === Didn't go to enough live shows this year to make a top-ten list, but if quantity was lacking there was quality in spades. Robyn (twice), Rush (thrice), Grant-Lee, Dave Alvin w/ Peter Case and Chris Smither...really, for me that's about as good as it gets. === Strangest Christmas gifts this year (tie): a Sri Lanka cricket jersey, given to me by my father for no clear reason...and the "I Believe In Father Christmas" ep by Emerson, Lake & Palmer given to my wife. I had no idea this thing even existed on CD, but her sister found it and, in a touching display of holiday spirit, pimped her mercilessly over it before we opened presents xmas eve. We also received Simon Schama's "History of Britain" set on DVD, which after some initial viewing has produced a number of things that I need to speak to Mr. Godwin about :-) === Nevertheless I do so love the holidays...I've spent like the last forty-three consecutive hours playing Tiger Woods PGA Tour on PS2 and listening to exclusively to The Apples in Stereo, Hal Ketchum, and UFO. A few minutes ago my right eyeball excused itself politely, popped out and went upstairs to bed...my left thumb squeeks and I damn near lit a fire in the hearth without opening the flue. Cripes. A happy holiday season to all. Be safe. Michael ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #433 ********************************