From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #432 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 27 2002 Volume 11 : Number 432 Today's Subjects: ----------------- REAP ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: REAP ["Michael Wells" ] Re: REAP ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: christmas presents [rosso@videotron.ca] Spoiled Two Towers Spoilers ["Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" ] The name thing ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: The name thing ["Stewart C. Russell" ] The Doctor, the Madrigal Boy, and the Strummer ["Rex.Broome" ] welcome ["Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" ] Re: new person: me! [Eb ] Re: new person: me! [Ken Weingold ] Re: new person: me! [Eb ] Re: Ridley Rocks [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Another REAP [Tom Clark ] Oh, and one more birth story... ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: The name thing [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:29:20 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: REAP Herb Ritts. Max _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_stopmorespam_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:27:16 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: REAP Max notes: > Herb Ritts. What a freaky year for photographers. First Yousuf Karsh, then Galen Rowell and now Ritts. If I was Walter Iooss I'd be a little uneasy right about now. Michael who with twins has had access to two brand new Lite-brites this Christmas :-p ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:06:07 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: REAP Michael Wells wrote: > > If I was Walter Iooss I'd be a little uneasy right about now. But HCB is still with us, still working, and actually -- eek! -- giving interviews ... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:33:55 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: christmas presents I got the new Kimberley Rew, "Great Central Revisited". It sure sounds like Nick Lowe to me! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:27:08 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: Spoiled Two Towers Spoilers Saw "The Two Towers." Spoilers follow: Ahhh shit Nooo! What ? Whats that ??? Thats not int he book, is it? Whats wrong with her mouth? And hers? Wait a second, thats ....? )^$#@@!!)($*%$%@$%@#$#$#$^%^&^&*^*(*()*((((((((((((((((((((((($%^$#%#@$!@$$%^%^&^%& Who was it that wrote to the list something along the line of --they will cut the movie alot(and btw, in this one, its alot alot alot) of breaks in deviating from the book, but when they fuck with Faramir...? That person was wise. I walked into this movie so psyched and walked out pretty dispirited. And part of the problem was that half of what dispirited me was that the ending wasn't despirited enough. There was something about the--oh--so--prettily--lit shot of all the heros, shoulder-to-shoulder on horseback that screamed Disneyfication even thou the words spoken were grimmer. Im all for going for the popular juglar but they did untrue to the heart of the books stuff with Elrond and Arawn, had Gandolf use magic/excorsicm(I was waiting for a Linda Blair imatation here)(especially since Wormtongue's been made up to look like a cross tween her and Ozzie Osbourne) to wake up King Theobold(Tolkein would have utterly hated this cop-out)had Aragon undergo a dead-obvious, totally unecissary, Hero with 1,000 Faces fall, baptism, rebirth thing--repleat with magically sent horse and wounded left shoulder and visions of a supernaturally magical Arawn, and yet they cut out the crucial scene when Aragorn pulls out the lost sword of kingship and halts(if only mementarily) the Orks ... and in general cutting out any presaging of the kingship theme which is part of the heart of the book, and then what they did to Faramir. Faramir the Noble, Faramir the Wise, Faramir now just some guerrilla captain who places expediency over principle till a quicky redemption at a final moment. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Well, I did like how the added to and handled the Gollum/Smeagol thing. That was very well done. But that was the only major change that I thought hightened the message of the book. Also--I didn't discover Tolkein thru Fanzetta, in fact, I was always struck by how different his visualations were from Tolkein's own. However I did love the battlescenes. And did I mention the Gandolf/Shadowflax(and I -love- ShawdowFlax) moment when my husband and I both muttered under our breath -- "Hi Ho Silver?"(The lighting again. Must they use that cliched lighting effect?) I may be off-base. I hope I am. I hope after I see the third movie all my reservations will fall away and I love this filmed trilogy. I hope I eat every one of these words. Kay, why can't more men wear their hair like this was MiddleEarth? PS--My daughter and I did, however, get into a heated debate bout who was hotter -- Legelas or Aragorn. And the Legalos/Gimli thing was prime. "For in Calormen, story-telling (whether the stories are true or made up)is a thing you're taught, just as English boys and girls are taught essay writing. The difference is that people want to hear the stories, whereas I never heard of anyone wanting to read the essays." CS Lewis -- "A Horse and His Boy" _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_addphotos_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 09:41:28 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Ridley Rocks For those who have been wondering... Our daughter Katherine Ridley Broome (hereafter "Ridley") was born on Dec. 20 at 12:26AM in something so brief it could hardly be called "labor" but for the intensity. Completely natural birth as with Miranda. Ridley's very healthy and Megan (hereafter "Mommy") is doing incredibly well, too. Ridley checked in at 8 lb 11 oz and has already regained all the birth weight... she's a good little nursin' machine. "Big" sister Miranda is really into the new arrival... she calls her "ba-baybeee" and is usually quite gentle with her. No sibling rivalry in evidence yet. We're happy to have our little family of four complete. It was a helluva Christmas. Happy New Year to all Fegs far and near! - -Rex & Family ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:34:57 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The name thing Me, then Jeff: >>We've got a Katherine on the > way, although we're gonna call her Ridley. >>Huh? If you're going to call her whatever, why not name her that? Oh, we're already catchin' shit for that, from our pediatrician, no less. Health care these days, I swear. Anyway, also in answer to the questions from Marcy and Kay, here's the story on the name: There are a couple things at play. First off, oddball family tradition. My name is James Rex Broome, but I have always, always, been "Rex" to one and all. So I'm used to having strangers call me "James"-- helps to peg telemarketers right away, which is nice. Of course, I'm #3 in a line of "James Mother's-Maiden-Name Broome"'s, and I was called by the middle name because there were already a buncha Jim Broomes. Second thing is that I totally named Miranda myself-- had it in mind before I met my wife-- so Megan got to name this one. Sorta like Kay's arrangement. We actually had a girl name and a boy name picked out, but had to go back to the drawing board once we found out that boys aren't our thing. We have Katherines on both sides of the family, two of whom recently passed away, so she wanted Katherine, but we would have felt odd about actually calling her that-- seems a little bit ghoulish to bear a "replacement" for the recently departed. Megan also wanted Ridley, which also a family (last) name from her side, and would have probably also been the name for a boy if we'd had one. She decided, and I totally agreed, that Katherine Ridley Broome flowed better than Ridley Katherine Broome. She also made the executive decision on the "K" over the "C", and thus Katherine. The family's pretty cool with the whole thing, although my 96-year old grandmother keeps confusing everyone by referring to her as "Katie". And oddly in the week since the birth I've been called "Mr. Broo-may" twice after not hearing that one for years-- for the record, the "e" in Broome is indeed silent. Whereas Broomes themselves are anything but, as Fegs well know. Thanks for the warm wishes, y'all! - -Rex "James Son of James" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:59:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: The name thing Rex Broome wrote: > > First off, oddball family tradition. You got a Scottish connection there, Rex? It's the sort of thing we do. Caldwell. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 11:26:29 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: The Doctor, the Madrigal Boy, and the Strummer Aaron: >>("Image Of The Fendahl") Much creepier monster than usual. I cribbed the name "Fendahl" for a lame horror movie I made in summer school, 7th grade... Doctor Who was a wellspring of names and concepts easily ripped off because nobody would ever recognize them. "Mawdryn Undead"... that's a pretty great title. Drew: >>The other was the much-loved "Talons of Weng-Chiang," which had me >>checking cabinets and under beds for homicidal homunculi for weeks. Oh yeah. If I recall correctly the Doctor talked about the Peking Humunculi (-lus?) as this evil little imp-creature who had been around forever, involved in many historical events like an immortal mini-Rasputin, but never really explained how it came to be kicking around in ancient China to begin with... for some reason that made it even creepier. Suddenly I actually want to see some of these again! ____________ Kay modifies "Madrigal Boy!": >>Robyn plays a truely scary alternative version of a himself. Washed-up, >>freeeze-dried, broke, coked-out, speeded-out, smacked-out or whatever drug of >>trendy choice is current, rock personage who sold out his true >>talent(becoming Robyn Hitchcock) for a mess of pottage and short-lived >>popularity. Now he endlessly tours crappy, creepy venues(touches of Spinal >>Tap,) picking up young idealistic pick-up bands as he goes(Leglos plays one >>of these young fellas (my daughter made me say that))who are overly >>impressed by his obvious talent and early, really good work and also more >>than disgusted by his waste of all of the above, not to mentioned any tinges >>of humanity he might have started off with. Sounds vaguely like Bowie meets Bob Pollard, except that Pollard's already kinda like that. Maybe Arthur Lee would be a good model, too... there's your suspected Moor for you. Since we're talking a whole band now, maybe we have two oldster burnouts who were in a band together way back when, both fallen on hard times with pickup bands, finally so desperate as to try touring together after years of acrimony, right before the big time-shift. Plenty of rock 'n' role models for that dynamic. >>And you realize in the Middle Ages Robyn would have been seen >>as almost a giant(wasn't average male height just a bit over 5 feet?) and >>perhaps collected by some decadent evil noble as part of his human menage. Great point. Also he looks vaguely sinister... mix in a little Neil Young for the somewhat simian factor and you have someone who for many reasons might be percieved as demonic. Cool. _________ So I just now am hearing about Joe Strummer. That's just miserable. I've truly loved the Mescaleros albums... there's just a real joy to them that you don't get often these days, much less from a veteran punk with little previous solo material to speak of. Very sad. Can anyone point me in the direction of two lost Strummer songs I heard and loved on French radio-- "Burnin' Lights" and "Afro-Cuban Be-Bop"? I believe they were tracks for the soundtrack to a film whose soundtrack was never released. Lovely little pieces that haunt me to this day. - -Rex, who has always been jealous of his wife for sharing a birthday with Joe Strummer ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:52:39 -0500 From: Sabina Carlson Subject: new person: me! hello fegmaniax... in case you haven't guessed yet i am a new person here. ummm upon the advice from kay i am writing a little letter thing to introduce myself. i am sabina sheena carlson. i am a freshman in high school in new jersey, and i have the best little 11 year old brother. i have fishies. umm, i was born and raised on rock n roll, cuz my dad didn't know any nursery rhymes when i was born the first song he sang to me was "thunder road". my parents got sick of rafi (a children singer person) really quickly so they made me tapes to listen to. as a result, i have been listening to the ramones, nirvana, the temptations, louis armstrong, gang of four, robyn hitchcock and others since i was about a year old. music is my life, and i listen to everything from jazz to punk to celtic to ska, etc. yeah i have fun being eclectic. as you can see i have been listening to robyn since i was very very little and my dad recently discovered the fegmaniax list so here i am! since music is my life that's all you need to know about me, so thank you for reading my boring little rant thing! i hope to see all of you later and become accepted into the ranks of the great fegmaniax! err something like that, hehe. signed, the new fegmaniac, sabina sheena ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:48:05 +0000 From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" Subject: welcome Welcome Sabina Sheena, You are most welcome to be Feg's resident punk rocker. Where in NJ do you go to school? And who are In U2ro;-? Kay "For in Calormen, story-telling (whether the stories are true or made up)is a thing you're taught, just as English boys and girls are taught essay writing. The difference is that people want to hear the stories, whereas I never heard of anyone wanting to read the essays." CS Lewis -- "A Horse and His Boy" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_newmsn8ishere_3mf ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:58:08 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: new person: me! >umm, i was born and raised on rock n roll, cuz my dad didn't know >any nursery rhymes when i was born the first song he sang to me was >"thunder road". my parents got sick of rafi (a children singer >person) really quickly so they made me tapes to listen to. as a >result, i have been listening to the ramones, nirvana, the >temptations, louis armstrong, gang of four, robyn hitchcock and >others since i was about a year old. Well, you certainly started much younger than me...congrats. I bought my first Hitchcock album at 21, and my first Gang of Four album at 25. ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:01:36 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: new person: me! On Fri, Dec 27, 2002, Eb wrote: > Well, you certainly started much younger than me...congrats. I bought > my first Hitchcock album at 21, and my first Gang of Four album at > 25. ;) I got my first two Kiss albums (Kiss and Hotter Than Hell) when I was about three. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:14:05 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: new person: me! >On Fri, Dec 27, 2002, Eb wrote: >> Well, you certainly started much younger than me...congrats. I bought >> my first Hitchcock album at 21, and my first Gang of Four album at >> 25. ;) > >I got my first two Kiss albums (Kiss and Hotter Than Hell) when I was >about three. :) I was bred on classical music. If anything, I was probably listening to something like "A Child's Introduction to Beethoven" back then. ;) I really didn't start building a contemporary record collection until I was in fifth or sixth grade. I remember when I entered college, my album collection had just 90something items. And that included quite a few albums on homemade tapes. Eb, having the worst Christmas imaginable ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 15:52:57 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Ridley Rocks Quoting "Rex.Broome" : > For those who have been wondering... > > Our daughter Katherine Ridley Broome (hereafter "Ridley") was born on > Dec. > 20 at 12:26AM in something so brief it could hardly be called "labor" > but > for the intensity. Congratulations! I'm sure the young lass will overcome her handicap of sharing a birthday with me. And on the subject of newness, welcome also to Sabina - who I suspect is this list's youngest member, no? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" np: The Negro Problem _Welcome Black_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:01:44 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Clark Subject: Another REAP "Slap Shot" director George Roy Hill. He also directed less important films like Butch Cassidy and The Sting. http://apnews.myway.com//article/20021227/D7O69LE81.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 14:53:27 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Oh, and one more birth story... One of the first doctors to give Ridley the once-over was, in fact, a Dr. Hitchcock. Megan ascertained that she was indeed related to Alfred, which (if I remember correctly) rules out any relationship to Robyn, but it still seemed cool to me. On an unrelated six-degrees-of-separation note, I just found out that my brother-in-law practices jin shin jyutsu (vaguely akin to acupressure but more cosmical) for Lucinda Williams' mom. Trippy. - -Rex, who also just found out that Ridley shares a birthday with Billy Bragg, Mike Watt (for Eb) and Ed Kuepper (for James) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:56:57 -0600 (CST) From: tanter@tarleton.edu Subject: Re: The name thing It's also incredibly Texan. I kid you not--last year I had an entire class in which every man went by his middle name! Marcy On Fri, 27 Dec 2002, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Rex Broome wrote: > > > > First off, oddball family tradition. > > You got a Scottish connection there, Rex? It's the sort of thing we do. > > Caldwell. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 17:08:38 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: The Doctor, the Madrigal Boy, and the Strummer > Can anyone point me in the direction of two lost Strummer > songs I heard and > loved on French radio-- "Burnin' Lights" and "Afro-Cuban > Be-Bop"? I believe > they were tracks for the soundtrack to a film whose > soundtrack was never > released. Lovely little pieces that haunt me to this day. First, hearty congratulations on the new baby! The holiday season will never be the same for you folks. My bit of research on Joe's songs from "I Hired A Contract Killer" doesn't help much, but does reveal that the bootlegs exist, and have been posted to various newsgroups in the past. I've made some requests, and will let you know if anyone fills them. Please do the same. Although I don't know the songs, apparently they are the holy grail for a lot of Strummer fans. cheers, +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 18:59:34 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: The name thing - -----Original Message----- From: tanter@tarleton.edu Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 5:57 PM To: Stewart C. Russell Cc: 'fegmaniax@smoe.org' Subject: Re: The name thing > It's also incredibly Texan. I kid you not--last year I had an entire > class in which every man went by his middle name! I've held off posting on the topic, but what the Hell. An integral part of my schizophrenia is that I went by my middle name straight up through the end of high school. It seemed the college was prone to using people's first names and what with my Permanent Record being listed under Ferris, I swapped. My parents never seriously considered calling me Ferris. My father's father was Ferris, and my father went by a nickname. Why the actual use of the name didn't just skip a generation and land on me is anyone's guess. Until recently it was a simple way to carbon date when people met me. If it was Scott, then it was pre-September of 1988. Anything afterwards and there was a solid chance they were from college. When I changed jobs back in June, however, I switched to using Scott. It wasn't going to work that way, but when I came to interview I was met by a guy I worked with years ago who referred to me as Scott. Again, it stuck. Oh well. Not terribly interesting stuff, but it's an excuse to post. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 20:43:25 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: The name thing On Fri, Dec 27, 2002, tanter@tarleton.edu wrote: > It's also incredibly Texan. I kid you not--last year I had an entire > class in which every man went by his middle name! Alabama as well. I went down to a friend's wedding there and the brides brother and father both went by their middle names, and then later on all of a sudden I think her brother switched to his first name. Some people called him one, and some the other. We were very confused. What the hell did we know, coming from NY. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #432 ********************************