From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #422 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, December 14 2002 Volume 11 : Number 422 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Speaking of TV and Buffy... [Miles Goosens ] Was Eminem behind this? [Tom Clark ] Where Gilmore Girls Posts Retain Scott Miller References in Their Subject Lines ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Best Reunion??? [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Where They Post Antique E-Mails [Eb ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #421 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Speaking of TV and Buffy... [Christopher Gross ] Decreasing the number of clocks by approximately one [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: Where They Post Antique E-Mails ["Brian Huddell" ] Our subject lines haven't been very descriptive, lately [Eb ] Re: Speaking of TV and Buffy... [Aaron Mandel ] horse corpse exhumed, thrashed [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:02:37 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Speaking of TV and Buffy... I said: >I haven't actually heard this and don't see it on any of the usual outlets >(E!, CNN, Variety) yet. It wasn't one minute after I sent this that this popped up on a refresh of E!'s news page: http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,10975,00.html?tnews Here's hoping that FIREFLY finds a home somewhere. I don't have a lot of hope since cable ratings winners like WITCHBLADE and FARSCAPE have been cancelled and not picked up elsewhere. And what was with TNT and the Sci-Fi Network cancelling their shows with the biggest ratings and most acclaim, anyway? I know they went on about production costs (and in the former case, dropped ungracious "it's NOT because Yancey Butler is in rehab" um, "denials"), but I gotta think it's some sort of tax writeoff scheme or somethin'. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 18:15:49 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: Best Reunion??? In a message dated 12/13/02 2:57:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: << Anyone wanna come up with an example to counter his "first time in >history" claim? >> I'm beginning to think it's just me, but I so dearly love the newer Bunnymen material that I dare say it's better than the old stuff (ok, not as good as Ocean Rain, but really, what is???) And I've said this on this list before and been harrassed for it, but I adore the Eurythmics CD Peace and I think it kicks the poop out of their older material!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:08:17 -0800 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Fwd: Trilobite Cookies Begin forwarded message: > From: Hugh Caley > Date: Fri Dec 13, 2002 3:50:09 PM US/Pacific > To: Eleanore Adams > Subject: Trilobite Cookies > > Perfect for a fegmaniac! > > xxxoooo > > http://www.georgehart.com/trilobites/trilobite.html > > -- > Hugh Caley, Unix Systems Administrator > Affymetrix, Inc., Emeryville, CA > 510-428-8537 Hugh_Caley@affymetrix.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:28:30 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Was Eminem behind this? http://apnews.myway.com//article/20021213/D7NT1TH80.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 16:32:57 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Where Gilmore Girls Posts Retain Scott Miller References in Their Subject Lines Wow. Didn't expect so many folks to be into the Gilmore Girls. Weird. So I'm to gather it precedes Buffy, which explains why more people here have actually watched it while I've never run across it. I'd also heard but forgotten about GLP's participation, but I don't follow him all that closely. Me, I didn't especially perceive GG as a "kid's show", but one of those relatively sedate lifestyle-type shows which happened to relate to my own lifestyle (and hence interest me ) not one iota. Like "Providence meets Dawson's Creek". And the daughter's in high school, yeah? Can't watch that. Firefly, though, the wife and I liked quite a bit, although early on we were resigned to it being cancelled. It stayed really good, though, so I'll be sad to see it go. Especially since I just saw what must've been the absolute worst episode of any Star Trek show ever. Oh well... at least this year I'm less concerned about 24 getting canceled "mid-day", as it were. ______ Miles: >>I just thought everyone knew that Ben Orr sang many Cars songs (including big >>hits like "Drive," "Just What I Needed," and "Let's Go") Although I'm hardly a huge Cars fan myself, I totally know this based on videos-- "Drive" in particular. I guess you'd have to have watched MTV during that particular time period, though, since I can't imagine Cars videos get a lot of play these days. >>a thread about "singers in the same band who sound alike" Who else is being cited? I really can't think of very many, and none where you can't tell the difference by listening just a little more closely. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:31:24 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Where They Post Antique E-Mails Quoting Eb : > One criticism I've read which seemed quite valid to me is that the > show began with Rory being the shy mouse who sorta "derailed" her > mother's narcissistic chattering, and that their interaction has > become more tiresome now, because Rory pulls the same allusive-whimsy > stuff which Lorelei does. And thus, Lorelei has no one to keep her in > check anymore, and she just babbles babbles babbles. ;) That's a good point...although it also seems reasonable in terms of character development, that as Rory grows more independent, she'd more strongly realize the potential of the loss of her earlier relationship with Lorelai, and would sort of bend over backwards to accommodate, in the usual sort of post-adolescent dance of attraction and repulsion. It will be *very* interesting to see how they handle Rory going off to college: I hope they don't chicken out and have her go to Yale and live at home... > > GG is my second-favorite, current TV show (on network TV, anyway), > but I don't enjoy it as much as I used to. My brain kinda tunes out > whenever the setting switches to Chilton, whenever Dean enters.... > And Sookie is really underused, I think. Actually, I think Chilton is underused. Thank god, though, that they got rid of the "clumsy" shtick with Sookie that they'd used in the first few episodes - that would've gotten real old real fast. > Yeah, he really has overstayed his welcome. And his recent bullying > "C'mon...you wanna piece of me?" scene with Jess (or as a friend and > I like to call him, "Poochie") seemed totally out of character, and > way over-the-top as written. Well, yeah...except that at times he has been written as having been a bit of a troublemaker, and he did threaten Prince Obnoxious (can't remember his name: the snooty Chilton kid w/the crush on Rory who called her "Mary"). Then again, Dean also backed down from the confrontation...also in (part of) his character. But then, he's been written so inconsistently it's hard to tell *who* he's supposed to be. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:49:59 -0800 (PST) From: drew Subject: static & silence > From: Eb > > np: Belle & Sebastian/The Boy With the Arab Strap (don't like this > one as well as Feeling Sinister, sorry to say) I kinda drift back and forth between the two. Sinister is more consistent and the songs are stronger, but the variety of Arab Strap makes me listen to it more. You see the first hints on there that letting the other band members write some of the songs was a bad idea. If I were to sell my Belle & Sebastian CDs tomorrow (not out of the realm of possibility), these are the two I would keep. Though I might also hang on to Tigermilk, which has my favorite B&S song on it "The State I Am In" and is better than the EP that also has it. > From: Miles Goosens > > Right now it's about 20 in > favor of "the Cars had another singer?" to only one person who joins be in > being able to tell a difference. How about in Fegdom? I never liked the Cars enough to pay that much attention, but now that you mention it, I always wondered if Ocasek was just a remarkably versatile singer. I guess the answer should have been obvious. > From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > > upspeak has been common in Auckland since at least the 1950s. According to > linguists it shows that the speakers feel inferior (this is actually the > opposite problem that most Aucklanders I've met seem to have). Hmmm. I always read it as implying a request for confirmation that the speaker is following what you're saying, which in a sense implies a demotion of status but not a radical one. That fits your example, except for the "I do?" thing, which I have trouble hearing in my head. I've never heard anyone use that inflection on a phrase like that and not mean it as a question. > Q: "Can you tell me how to get to Aotea Square?" > A: "You go up that street there? Then turn third left on Parnell Road?" > Q: "You DO know how to get there, don't you?" > A: "I do?" > Q: "Never mind, I'll ask someone else." - -- drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:08:24 -0500 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Best Reunion??? On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 06:15 PM, BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > And I've said this on this list before and been harrassed for it, but > I adore > the Eurythmics CD Peace and I think it kicks the poop out of their > older > material!!!! Let 'em harass - this list is far from the arbiter of good taste... (I refuse to append the obligatory "smilie", but did succumb to placing said emoticon in double quotation marks *sigh*) I got to see the reunited Eurythmics TWICE in 2 weeks (first in NYC, second at Wembley Arena, London) during the PEACE tour and they were simply amazing - Annie's voice was incredible. I also caught Ani DiFranco a few weeks ago at The Beacon and never realized how adept a guitarist she is. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:02:54 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: Where They Post Antique E-Mails >Jeffrey (so where's *your* top 10?): >It will be *very* interesting to see how they handle Rory going off to >college: I hope they don't chicken out and have her go to Yale and live at >home... Sounds like they're gonna. Maybe when the whole Harvard fantasy was set into place, the writers didn't have much optimism that the show would stick around long enough for Rory's college years to become an issue. >Well, yeah...except that at times he has been written as having been a bit >of a troublemaker, and he did threaten Prince Obnoxious (can't remember his >name Tristan. ;) I believe that actor is on Dawson's Creek now? I don't know...haven't seen that show in ages. Eb PS Lawndart saw Lauren Graham at a secret Counting Crows/Viper Room show once...man, was I jealous. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 16:15:27 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #421 >>Huh! I wouldn't have necessarily expected a *second* reunion album. > >>(Anyone wanna come up with an example to counter his "first time in >>history" claim? I thought at least one of the reunited Buzzcocks >>albums, All Set, was about as good as the original stuff, but I guess >>most others didn't agree....) Thrak (King Crimson's second re-union), was pretty damn fine in my opinion. What was the URL for those RH diary entries again? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:45:25 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Speaking of TV and Buffy... On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > At 02:02 PM 12/13/2002 -0800, Eb wrote: > >...if you haven't heard, Firefly has been cancelled. I couldn't get > >into it myself, but.... > > The pilot was the weakest episode (probably because of it being cut down > from Joss' planned two-hour debut -- said two-hour original version to air > on Dec. 20th, last I heard), but it steadily improved, and seemed to be one > of those BABYLON 5-type growers, with a long-term story arc. I agree that it steadily improved. Well, actually my view is more like: it rapidly improved, then by episode 3 or so it stabilized at a fairly high level (by TV standards). BTW, the weak opening episode, "The Train Job," wasn't even a cut-down version of the original pilot. It was an entirely new episode that they wrote in a hurry after Fox rejected the original pilot. Fox wanted a first episode that was faster, less confusing, and more action-oriented, and that's what they got, and the critics panned it, and the series never recovered. It'll be interesting to see the original pilot. Would the series have gotten better ratings and survived (despite the kiss-of-death time slot) if Fox hadn't rejected the original pilot? We'll never know for sure ... so yeah, we may as well blame Fox and its foolish decision about the pilot. > And what was with TNT and the Sci-Fi Network cancelling their shows with > the biggest ratings and most acclaim, anyway? I'm not sure which shows you're referring to; but isn't the Sci-Fi Network switching to an all-UFO format? Since we're speaking of TV, I've never seen the Gilmore Girls. For that matter, I've never seen a single episode of Roswell, Smallville, John Doe, Alias, and many many others. And I very much doubt I'll watch this car chase show that's taking Firefly's timeslot. Did anyone here watch Birds of Prey? That one got cancelled even faster than Firefly, but I hear it was pretty good. Though I'm not sure why I used "but" in that previous sentence; "so of course" would fit better. - --Chris "The Fox Network has sunk to a new low." --Lisa Simpson ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:20:16 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Decreasing the number of clocks by approximately one http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?afl=mail1&nid=17204 ===== "If we don't allow journalists, politicians, and every two-bit Joe Schmo with a cause to grandstand by using 9-11 as a lame rhetorical device, then the terrorists have already won." -- "Shredder" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:27:36 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Where They Post Antique E-Mails At 2:54 PM -0600 12/13/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves Miles Goosens and whispered: I just thought everyone knew that Ben >Orr sang many Cars songs (including big hits like "Drive," "Just What I >Needed," and "Let's Go") Wow, "Drive" I knew wasn't Ric Ocasek, but my mental tape player's archived copies of JWIN and LG definitely sound just like him. Are you sure? At 4:54 PM -0600 12/13/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves Miles Goosens and whispered: > >...if you haven't heard, Firefly has been cancelled. I couldn't get > >into it myself, but.... > >The pilot was the weakest episode (probably because of it being cut down [etc.] All this TV talk - was anyone else as upset as I was about the cancellation of "Girls Club" after two episodes? We haven't had such a clear view of the enemy since 90210. At 4:32 PM -0800 12/13/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves Rex.Broome and whispered: >>>a thread about "singers in the same band who sound alike" > >Who else is being cited? I really can't think of very many, and none where >you can't tell the difference by listening just a little more closely. I had always assumed this was a common trick, at least with regard to backup singers. Off the top of my head, I can only think of Mick Ronson's uncanny Bowie impersonation during the live shows from that period, and to a lesser extent, Keith's Mick to Mick's own Mick, IMHO - listen to Sticky Fingers - although this was strictly when singing backup, there's no mistaking the vocals on songs like "Happy." (When I'm sick and have a stuffy nose, I can do an excellent Keith impersonation.) I also saw a Springsteen clip a few years back with Little Steven trading lead vocals with Bruce and sounding like they'd been hatched from the same egg. Interesting also, I have a tape of Bowie's informal demo reel for Space Oddity, recorded in his living room with acoustic guitars, and the unknown friend with him sounds as much like him as Ronson did. I've always wondered who that guy was. It's an entertaining tape, it's so early that Bowie at one point says, addressing the producer to whom the tape is going, "We're not just folk singers, we also do contemporary." They do a dynamite acoustic version of "Space Oddity". Sorry, free associating at this point. I always knew drinking at work was going to get me in trouble. Man, my friend Amy is so cool. I'm in the back office grooving to an obscure Roxy Music live track, she's working the front desk, she just walked back here and immediately says, "Is that Roxy Music? I've never heard this one before." How often does THAT happen nowadays? At 5:49 PM -0800 12/13/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves drew and whispered: >Hmmm. I always read it as implying a request for confirmation >that the speaker is following what you're saying, which in a >sense implies a demotion of status but not a radical one. That >fits your example, except for the "I do?" thing, which I have >trouble hearing in my head. I've never heard anyone use that >inflection on a phrase like that and not mean it as a question. Working for Green Tortoise for lo these many years I've gotten exposed to a lot of accents. I always took it that that funny questioning inflection was strictly a regional thing; Northern British accents seem to do it, southern accents don't, for example. (Although there are exceptions to this. I had a friend from Manchester, I never realized how funny his accent was until another Mancunian (sp?) showed up and I heard their slow, drawl-y conversation. Impossible to reproduce over a text-based interface, but utterly hilarious to this New Yorker.) Mike - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 21:50:13 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Wow! I never knew this before http://de.share.geocities.com/camillo1971/MoveOn-reversed.mp3 A backwards version of Bowie's Lodger track "Move On"...sound familiar? It should.... Neat!! Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:25:30 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Where They Post Antique E-Mails MEK waph: > Wow, "Drive" I knew wasn't Ric Ocasek, but my mental tape > player's archived > copies of JWIN and LG definitely sound just like him. Are you sure? He is. Sure. Or if he isn't, I am. That was a potent source of high-school one-upmanship back in the day. It's an easy mistake to make. Clearly Ben emulated Ric's mannerisms. While Ben was the more traditionally competent singer, Ric was the (long) "face" of the band, so people naturally assumed Ric sang lead on the hits. Listen to JWIN (Ben) next to "Best Friend's Girl" (Ric) and that should clear it up. cheers, +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:28:18 -0800 From: Glen Uber Subject: Need a Dan Bern tune Can any of you help me out? I need the Dan Bern tune "Albuquerque Lullaby" from _New American Language_. NAL was one of the CDs that was taken in the burglary and I haven't gotten around to replacing it yet. I will send along any hard-to-find things that you need or, at the very least, mail a couple of mixed CDs your way. You can either e-mail it to me or upload it to my ftp server at ftp://ftp.sonic.net/pub/users/uberg/incoming/ Contact me off list for more info or your own request(s). Cheers! - -g- "Never waste a trip anywhere by coming home without beer." - --Russ Reynolds glen uber // apostrophe (at) crux of the biscuit dot com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:38:36 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Our subject lines haven't been very descriptive, lately > > Wow, "Drive" I knew wasn't Ric Ocasek, but my mental tape >> player's archived >> copies of JWIN and LG definitely sound just like him. Are you sure? > >He is. Sure. Or if he isn't, I am. That was a potent source of >high-school one-upmanship back in the day. It's an easy mistake to >make. Clearly Ben emulated Ric's mannerisms. While Ben was the more >traditionally competent singer, Ric was the (long) "face" of the band, >so people naturally assumed Ric sang lead on the hits. Listen to JWIN >(Ben) next to "Best Friend's Girl" (Ric) and that should clear it up. I always love how there's ONE line in Brian Eno's "Dead Finks Don't Talk" where he does a spot-on perfect impression of ex-bandmate Bryan Ferry. "'Til you find your way back here"...the lyric's something like that. Can't really cite any other examples of this phenomenon, at the moment. The Roches? ;) Oh no oh no oh no, Eb np: David Sylvian/Secrets of the Beehive (quite a bit better than I expected...the first Sylvian album I've heard which I'm not compelled to goof on!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:47:12 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: My chart shines high when the blue milk's upset (100% RH) At 10:38 PM -0800 12/13/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves Eb and whispered: >I always love how there's ONE line in Brian Eno's "Dead Finks Don't >Talk" where he does a spot-on perfect impression of ex-bandmate Bryan >Ferry. "'Til you find your way back here"...the lyric's something >like that. > >Can't really cite any other examples of this phenomenon, at the >moment. The Roches? ;) > Robyn's spot-on Johnny Rotten impression in Vegetable Man at Amoeba (and, I presume, other stops on the tour): "IT'S-a what I WEAR-a! IT'S-a what you SEE-a! IT-a must be ME-a!". Second place, his spot-on, breathless, incredibly theatrical Bowie, doing "Sound And Vision" on the GLH tour, 6/21/00: "BLUE, BLUE, ELECTRIC BLUE! THAT'S THE COLOUR OF MY ROOM!" Perfect. MK (w/a PH) - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 00:51:45 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Our subject lines haven't been very descriptive, lately Eb: > I always love how there's ONE line in Brian Eno's "Dead Finks Don't > Talk" where he does a spot-on perfect impression of ex-bandmate Bryan > Ferry. "'Til you find your way back here"...the lyric's something > like that. > > Can't really cite any other examples of this phenomenon, at the > moment. The Roches? ;) Bowie doing Bolan in "Black Country Rock". Doesn't meet the "bandmate" test, I guess. More of a "scene" reference. +brian in New Orleans ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:09:48 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: My chart shines high when the blue milk's upset (100% RH) >Hatted Michael: > >I always love how there's ONE line in Brian Eno's "Dead Finks Don't > >Talk" where he does a spot-on perfect impression of ex-bandmate Bryan >>Ferry. "'Til you find your way back here"...the lyric's something >>like that. >> >>Can't really cite any other examples of this phenomenon, at the > >moment. The Roches? ;) > >Robyn's spot-on Johnny Rotten impression in Vegetable Man at Amoeba Uh, except the topic was vocal similarities between *bandmates*.... Brian: >Bowie doing Bolan in "Black Country Rock". Hey, not bad. That one didn't occur to me before. Anyone have anything interesting to say about The Streets? I haven't heard this disc, but I've been feeling like maybe I should. Random note: Saw a sneak preview of a local, alt-rock magazine's Best Albums of 2002 consensus poll today, and boy, the Beck album just *slaughtered* the competition. Almost 50% more points than the second-place finisher (Interpol). Eb PS "Band-reject filter"? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:22:02 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: My chart shines high when the blue milk's upset (100% RH) At 11:09 PM -0800 12/13/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves Eb and whispered: >>Hatted Michael: >>Robyn's spot-on Johnny Rotten impression in Vegetable Man at Amoeba > >Uh, except the topic was vocal similarities between *bandmates*.... What? You've never heard any of the tapes from Robyn's short stint with PIL? Mike - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 23:48:04 -0800 From: Eb Subject: Re: My chart shines high when the blue milk's upset (100% RH) >What? You've never heard any of the tapes from Robyn's short stint with PIL? Nope, I was left out of that tape tree. I did get the "Hitchcock Plays Monk" boot, however. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 01:52:41 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Wow! I never knew this before Wow is right. As intimate as I've been with both songs for what, 23 years, I never made the connection. The question is why this wasn't in the press circa '79? Or was it? Back then I read everything I could get my hands on, but maybe I missed it. Anyone else know about this? Fucking eerie and wonderful. Thanks Eb. > A backwards version of Bowie's Lodger track "Move On"...sound > familiar? It should.... > > Neat!! > > Eb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:36:04 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: My chart shines high when the blue milk's upset (100% RH) Eb wrote: > > I did get the "Hitchcock Plays Monk" boot, however. I've always preferred the "Monk Plays Hitchcock" session. Stewart np: Lemon Jelly -- Lost Horizons ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 08:39:05 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: static & silence drew wrote: > > I always read it as implying a request for confirmation > that the speaker is following what you're saying or they could just be influenced by east-coast Scots, where everything is a question. And I wish they'd stop calling me Ken, it's not my name. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:11:23 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Speaking of TV and Buffy... On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > Did anyone here watch Birds of Prey? That one got cancelled even faster > than Firefly, but I hear it was pretty good. Though I'm not sure why I > used "but" in that previous sentence; "so of course" would fit better. I suspect you heard wrong. It was excruciating, the time I watched it. a ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 10:43:13 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: horse corpse exhumed, thrashed Quoting Eb : > I always love how there's ONE line in Brian Eno's "Dead Finks Don't > Talk" where he does a spot-on perfect impression of ex-bandmate Bryan > Ferry. "'Til you find your way back here"...the lyric's something > like that. > > Can't really cite any other examples of this phenomenon, at the > moment. The Roches? ;) There's a cover of "Beauty and the Beast" recorded (if I recall) live in studio by the L*ud F*mily, which features two dead-on impersonations. One: before the tune proper, Sc*tt M*ller does Eno singing "My my my..." from "The Paw-Paw Negro Blowtorch" (he does the next line also, but not as well...). When the tune itself starts, Paul Wieneke's keyboard sound is pretty much exactly like the original's. (Miller also did a pretty good Black Francis in a live cover of "Debaser.") And to bring this vaguely back on-topic, on a KCRW appearance with our man Robyn, Grant Lee Phillips did an amusing bit in which he imitated William S. Burroughs...reciting the lyrics to Bob Seger's "Night Moves"... Oh - and I remember having known that "Move On" was written around the chords and melody to "All the Young Dudes" backwards, but I'd never thought to actually listen to "Move On" backwards - thanks for posting that link! - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #422 ********************************