From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #419 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, December 11 2002 Volume 11 : Number 419 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Shoegazing, nudity and food products ["Rex.Broome" ] Husker Shugazing / Jesus Mould ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: january soft boys gigs [dances with virgos ] ultra suede [drew ] Re: Husker Shugazing / Jesus Mould [Ken Weingold ] Re: Robyn's "Diary" [Tom Clark ] Re: Christmas in Feguary ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Hootsville, dude [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Christmas in Feguary [Ken Weingold ] RE: product re-placement ["da9ve stovall" ] Re: Christmas in Feguary ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" ] RE: product re-placement [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Singing Science Records ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Husker Shugazing / Jesus Mould [Mike Swedene ] Unicorn Jelly [steve ] "I'll cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs!" ["Asshole Muthafucka" <] Re: "I'll cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs!" [brian@lazerlove5.c] Shocking Reap ["matt sewell" ] january soft boys dates [dances with virgos ] Chameleons, Charlatans, Charmander... [Miles Goosens Subject: Shoegazing, nudity and food products Miles: >>Anyone who owns A CAN OF BEES has heard stuff that's far more "off" than >>YHF. And hearing these reactions from Eb and Rex only confirms my fears. But... I LIKE YHF! It was on my top 10. I was pretty much saying the same thing you are, just mentioning that the "IATTBYH" intro became tiresome on multiple listenings... please note that KCRW treated "IATTBYH" as the album's "single", so I've heard it more than any other tune on the record. I think the tunes are good. I think some of the arrangements are overworked due to the personnel changes, too much time in the studio, Jim O'Rourke, etc. But I agree that it's the hype that grates, not the record. On Interpol: >>But the Joy Division Joy Division Joy Division mantra from the press is >>misleading Ah, but my mantra is Chameleons Chameleons Chameleons. There you get the vocals, the dual wash of chorused-out guitars, and that kind of '80's propulsive rhythm. Joy Division was much more minimalist and brittle-sounding. The Chameleons were dense, guitar-wise, without much in the way of distortion or "noisiness"... I would place their guitar sound directly between that of postpunk beat bands like the Church (where you can still hear the '60's pop influence) and the flat-out chorus-happy soundscape bands like the Cocteau Twins or Felt. Any, Interpol feels far closer to that stuff than the "shoegazer" material. The characteristic straight 8th's rhythm relates to what the "VU beat" turned into in the '80's more than the later "wall of sound" dream-pop sound. To me, at least. But honestly, like y'all say, "shoegazer" has gotta be one of the dumbest genre classifcations in rock history. I saw a whole bunch of those bands live and I can only remember one that spent any quality time eyeballing their sneakers. Kitchens of Distinction I don't know well at all, but most of those bands *also* had a much heavier '60's Beatles/Byrds/Who psych-pop vibe than Interpol do. (When you think of them as ungodly loud '60's guitar pop, the Husker Du comparison makes sense in theory, but in practice it comes out completely differently.) Honestly, knowing that the Chameleons had reformed, the first time I heard "PDA", I thought it *was* the Chameleons. __ Kay says that I said: 5)Rex: >The question is whether you end up naked while surfing the web... ...but in fact it was not me who asked that. I b'lieve to was Tom. Just don't wanna get in trouble. Sure, Kay says she's an an overburdened, bridge-generation, tapped-out, working mom, but we all know she's on the young side of Greta Swan. Sure, that means she joined the list when she was eight, but stranger things have happened. ______ Tom C: >>Which gets confusing because out west also have Breyers out west which is >>known as Good Humor back East. I can confirm the existence of Breyers and Good Humor in my former corner of the East. Don't recognize the other names. Won't comment on mayonnaise as it is the Devil's Toejam. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:51:51 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Shoegazing, nudity and food products At 01:29 PM 12/10/2002 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >Miles: >>>Anyone who owns A CAN OF BEES has heard stuff that's far more "off" than >>>YHF. And hearing these reactions from Eb and Rex only confirms my fears. > >But... I LIKE YHF! It was on my top 10. I was pretty much saying the same >thing you are, just mentioning that the "IATTBYH" intro became tiresome on >multiple listenings... I think we're saying the same thing, except that we disagree about the "I Am Trying To Break Your Heart" intro. Which is what I was really saying. :-) >please note that KCRW treated "IATTBYH" as the >album's "single", so I've heard it more than any other tune on the record. "Heavy Metal Drummer" was the only track I ever heard around here. But I've played the record enough on my own to incur IATTBYH intro burnout were I susceptible to it. Which, apparently, I'm not! >I think the tunes are good. I think some of the arrangements are overworked >due to the personnel changes, too much time in the studio, Jim O'Rourke, >etc. BTW, O'Rourke actually *simplified* the arrangements and made things more direct. >But I agree that it's the hype that grates, not the record. On that you and I agree, whereas I think Eb would say "both grate." Or just plain "ehhhhhh." :-) >On Interpol: >>>But the Joy Division Joy Division Joy Division mantra from the press is >>>misleading > >Ah, but my mantra is Chameleons Chameleons Chameleons. There you get the >vocals, the dual wash of chorused-out guitars, and that kind of '80's >propulsive rhythm. Joy Division was much more minimalist and >brittle-sounding. The Chameleons were dense, guitar-wise, without much in >the way of distortion or "noisiness"... I would place their guitar sound >directly between that of postpunk beat bands like the Church (where you can >still hear the '60's pop influence) and the flat-out chorus-happy soundscape >bands like the Cocteau Twins or Felt. My original post originally said "the stuff I was listening to in 1988-92," and I probably shouldn't have introduced the "shoegazer" label at all, because then we'd be free to take in all the folks you just mentioned, as we should be. You've got something with the Chameleons' rhythm and guitar. But honestly, I hadn't thought "Chameleons" because the main thing I think with "Chameleons" is "organ." (Stop snickering, Beavis.) Of course, introducing the Chameleons to the discussion could lead to "they don't sound baggy-pants Madchestery!" just as quickly as KoD brings up "they don't sound shoegazery!" :-) Ah, the joy of labels. Actually, maybe the mid-'80s UK popsters needed a label or something for trendoid purposes -- the Jazz Butcher, Lloyd Cole, Robyn himself (though the SBs put him a bit further back in the timeline, it was his most active period) dominated my stereo for a broad swath of the '80s, but none of them really got much chart success on either side of the pond... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:33:47 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hootsville, dude on 12/10/02 11:57 AM, Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome at theyarenotlong@hotmail.com wrote: > I was wondering, what current comedians do Fegs like and why? With > pre-Christmas stress coming on I could use a few nice mean and raucus > jollies. Also any funny webpages? Or funny, smutty, angry webpages or just > plain wacked ones? You know, stuff to help an overburdened, > bridge-generation, tapped-out, working mom -really- get in the proper mood > for Christmas. > Here's one for you: http://www.origamiboulder.com/ - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:43:30 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Husker Shugazing / Jesus Mould The Husker Du / shoegazing comparison brought to mind the early '90's British band that most reminded me of HD-- and I know I'm gonna get bitchsmacked for this: Jesus Jones on their first album. Sounded like Bob Mould with the Bomb Squad for a rhythm section. Of course their second album sucked and thus they scored their massive international hit, but "Liquidizer" sounded pretty cool at the time. Plus it's worth mentioning that Bob Mould was in turn admittedly influenced by My Bloody Valentine. Sugar's "Favorite Thing" shared a title with a song by another Minneapolis band, but the verse melody and even some of the lyrics were lifted right off of "Loveless". - -Rex, who strongarmed his friend into buying "Loveless" for $4 last night since she was already paying the same amount for a Salt N Pepa album with two songs she wanted ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:41:34 -0800 From: Eb Subject: I saw a hobo in my room >Here's one for you: >http://www.origamiboulder.com/ I might have posted this before, but this made me giggle more than anything on the Web I've seen in ages. http://rexxo.sytes.net/animutations/hyakugo.swf Brilliantly moronic. Not easy to tell if the creator realizes this or not. What's more, it has...JAPANESE ANIMATION!!!! ;) Eb ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:50:34 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: january soft boys gigs one time at band camp, Michael R Godwin said: >On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, dances with virgos wrote: > > UK: > > Sunday, Jan 26 - Brighton, Concorde 2 > > Monday, Jan 27 - Bristol, Fleece & Firkin > > Tuesday, Jan 28 - Oxford, The Zodiac > > Wednesday, Jan 29 - Cambridge, The Boat Race > > Thursday, Jan 30 - Manchester, Life > >Something inconsistent going on here. The Fleece and Firkin list the Soft >Boys for Sunday 26th: this note was added to thesoftboys.com today sometime: >Note: UK gigs have been undergoing some shifting around, and some of these >dates don't agree with venue website listings. This is supposedly the >official final schedule, but we shall see. Stay tuned and all that... hopefully the spanner in the works will be removed soon enough... woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: drew Subject: ultra suede I finally got two albums by Splashdown alumnus Kasson Crooker's new(ish) band Freezepop. Well, OK, an album (_Forever_) and an EP (_Fashion Impression Function_). I'm totally loving them. It's new-skool synthpop, which means emotionless vocals and repetitive-as-hell (and somewhat shallow, but cute) lyrics. The production is super-super-clean (to my ears, I have to always add) and the tunes are wicked catchy little things. The album, at least, reminds me of a cross between Tuscadero and Ladytron. And by the way, if you've never heard Splashdown (and now you really can't, because record-label motherfuckers have caused them to disband), you really should have. Top-notch fusion of goth, synth, and guitar, extremely melodic and pleasurable songwriting, slight sitary flavors in the music from time to time...brilliant stuff. The first album (_Stars and Garters_) is not as good as the EPs (_Redshift_ and _Halfworld_). Finding bootleg mp3s of the never-released second album _Blueshift_ would make your day. I wish it weren't too late for it to make the band's, too. While I'm on the subject, Cocteau Twins fans or anyone into shoegazer with a little oomph behind it should also keep an eye on the cut-out bins for the Autumns, an LA band who released two incredibly good albums several years ago called _The Angel Pool_ and (embarrassingly) _In the Russet Gold of this Vain Hour_. Heavenly male vocals and washes and washes of melodic guitar snow. Good stuff for Christmastime. Those recommendations out of the way, let's get to business. > From: Miles Goosens TOTALLY with you on that critthink problem. It's why I'm more likely to avoid a band hyped in the hip circles than one hyped in the popular media, ironically and sadly enough. > Drew on Suede: [flimsy, insidious] > I don't have the new Suede, but that statement is so totally apt. I > suspect that Drew and I might differ on particular favorite Suede tracks, > but this perfectly captures the band in a way that me saying "shallow but > hooky" just doesn't convey. Maybe that's why I like them at their most > out-and-out glam ("Animal Nitrate," HEAD MUSIC) vs. their most > wannabe-meaningful (most of DOG MAN STAR). I love both phases of Suede, myself. _Dog Man Star_ is a great album but it's _heavy_, and it's not sure what to do with itself... some pop that's a little too chunky to fly mixed in with some gorgeous, brooding ballads that are great in small doses or in the right mood but probably should have been spread out over several albums for maximum effectiveness. That may be what you're reacting to. One fun thing to do with the album is to start singing that song that opens Rocky Horror at the chorus ("Science fiction double feature / Dr. X will build a creature") when all the la la la's start at the end of "The Power." You'll find you have just enough measures to get through it, and the chords are close enough that it works. Post-Butler, Anderson was able to clear out all the cobwebs, but unfortunately he forgot how to write songs that sounded intelligent and used more than about 20 key words; like some kind of cross between Genet, Yeats, and a street hustler on smack he began to sing about not only the same things but the same nouns over and over again. So I react to every new album the same way: at first I'm amazed that Anderson's lyrics managed to become even more retarded than last time, then the annoying songs start to sound catchy, and then I'm playing the album over and over again in constant bliss. The new album was exactly the same way. It's actually slightly less vapid than _Head Music_ in some places (which wasn't too hard to accomplish), and the songs "Lost In TV" and "Lonely Girls" are worth $15 by themselves. I was skeptical of the slightly mellowed (but still glam) sound at first but I have no problem with it now. > From: "Rex.Broome" > > Drew: > >>8. Clinic, _Walking With Thee_ > > Drew, how would you describe this as a whole album? What you've heard is pretty much on target in my experience. At first its stripped-down weirdness is really invigorating and intense, and after about the fourth song I start to zone out a bit and think about folding laundry or whatever else I happen to be doing. That's why after my top five it's more of a catalog of the 2002 releases I bought and didn't totally hate. Try Before You Buy. Incidentally, the Tori Amos album is falling in my rankings, probably swapping places with Aimee Mann. I might as well stop trying to have an ordered list at all. I'm with you and Eb on the price of Amoeba. It's pretty ridiculous, and honestly for all the CDs they have the selection always seems subpar to me. I have better luck finding stuff at Rasputin usually. > From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" > > I have meant and meant to get "Lost in Space." From what your saying, sounds > like my have meant needs to become have got. My first reaction was that it was really low-key, samey, and pleasant but uninvolving. Turns out it just took a few spins. It's definitely low-key but in some ways I like it better than Bachelor No. 2. > From: Miles Goosens > > In fact, several of the tracks had me thinking of my favorite group from > that era, Kitchens of Distinction I've tried and tried to get into KoD but failed every time. They just don't register on my aural pleasure centers; the sound isn't unappealing (like, unfortunately, the Chameleons) but it's failed to involve me. > From: "Maurer Rose, Inverse Nome" > > I was wondering, what current comedians do Fegs like and why? My favorite comedian at the moment is Greg Proops by a mile. Hilarious *and* politically vicious. > From: Miles Goosens > The "stoner Steve Wright" Surely that's redundant? - -- drew at stormgreen dot com http://www.stormgreen.com/~drew/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:19:08 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Husker Shugazing / Jesus Mould On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > The Husker Du / shoegazing comparison brought to mind the early '90's > British band that most reminded me of HD-- and I know I'm gonna get > bitchsmacked for this: Jesus Jones on their first album. Sounded like Bob > Mould with the Bomb Squad for a rhythm section. Of course their second > album sucked and thus they scored their massive international hit, but > "Liquidizer" sounded pretty cool at the time. And Bob also got a lot of shit for Sugar's A Good Idea sounding like a Pixies rip-off. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:00:05 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Robyn's "Diary" on 12/9/02 12:37 PM, Brian Huddell at bhuddell@bellsouth.net wrote: > Robyn Hitchcock is doing this week's "Diary" feature for Slate: > > http://slate.msn.com/?id=2075161&entry=2075197 > This is the coolest. It must be at the same time fascinating and terrifying to be him. Huskies, - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:36:51 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Christmas in Feguary >Subject: Re: Christmas in Feguary >On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > > As an authentic fat guy, I can comment on this with regard to ice cream. > > Out east its Edy's brand and out west its Dreyer's brand. Which gets > > confusing because out west also have Breyers out west which is known as > > Good Humor back East. Ken wrote: >We have both here in the Northeast. > > >-Ken I am pretty darn certain Breyers is not the same as Good Humor here in Philly or NYC. Breyers does not make ice cream bars and Good Humor does not make boxed ice cream. Max _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:05:31 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Hootsville, dude Quoting Miles Goosens : > The "stoner Steve Wright" angle gets overworked, Okay, isn't that phrase redundant? - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: PLEASE! You are sending cheese information to me. I don't want it. :: I have no goats or cows or any other milk producing animal! :: --"raus" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:13:39 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Christmas in Feguary On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Maximilian Lang wrote: > >On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > >> As an authentic fat guy, I can comment on this with regard to ice cream. > >> Out east its Edy's brand and out west its Dreyer's brand. Which gets > >> confusing because out west also have Breyers out west which is known as > >> Good Humor back East. > > Ken wrote: > >We have both here in the Northeast. > > > > I am pretty darn certain Breyers is not the same as Good Humor here in > Philly or NYC. Breyers does not make ice cream bars and Good Humor does > not make boxed ice cream. Oh, sorry, I meant we have both Breyers and Edy's. There is almost nothing better than Breyers Natural Vanilla. It's like freshly dropped snow. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: 10 Dec 2002 19:01:13 -0800 From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: RE: product re-placement >> As an authentic white guy, I can comment on this with regard to >> mayonnaise. East of the Rockies: Hellman's, west of the Rockies: Best >> Foods. Same exact packaging, same ad jingle, just replace the words. >Do > you suppose west coasters would shiver at something named >Hellman's? I >> dunno. > >As an authentic fat guy, I can comment on this with regard to ice cream. >Out east its Edy's brand and out west its Dreyer's brand. Which gets >confusing because out west also have Breyers out west which is known as >Good Humor back East. As an authentic bored guy who works too late and spends too much of the rest of his time online, I can add that we've got Hellman's in Indiana, and it's the best. We've definitely got Edy's, but I think we've got Dreyer's as well; I may be wrong. We definitely have Breyer's, so I'm not getting them mixed up. We've also got Ding-Dongs here, and I remember them being called King Dons somewhere else in the country (deep south?), but that's been a long time ago. What possible bad connotation could a cream-filled Ding Dong have for anyone? d9 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:01:33 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Christmas in Feguary At 8:13 PM -0500 12/10/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves Ken Weingold and whispered: >On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Maximilian Lang wrote: >> >On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: >> >> As an authentic fat guy, I can comment on this with regard to ice >>cream. >> >> Out east its Edy's brand and out west its Dreyer's brand. Which gets >> >> confusing because out west also have Breyers out west which is known >>as >> >> Good Humor back East. >> >> Ken wrote: >> >We have both here in the Northeast. >> > >> >> I am pretty darn certain Breyers is not the same as Good Humor here in >> Philly or NYC. Breyers does not make ice cream bars and Good Humor does >> not make boxed ice cream. > >Oh, sorry, I meant we have both Breyers and Edy's. > >There is almost nothing better than Breyers Natural Vanilla. It's >like freshly dropped snow. :) If you are near SF, I strongly urge you to go to the Grubsteak on Pine and get a vanilla mailkshae. I mean, the Grubsteak is the Grubsteak, we all know that, but their vanilla milkshake is like the best shake I've ever had. And I've had a lot of shakes. Mike - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:25:07 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: RE: product re-placement At 7:01 PM -0800 12/10/02, those funny voices I hear when no one else is around called themselves da9ve stovall and whispered: >We've also got Ding-Dongs here, and I remember them being called >King Dons somewhere else in the country (deep south?), but that's >been a long time ago. What possible bad connotation could a >cream-filled Ding Dong have for anyone? I believe "Ding Dongs" is the Namco original, "King Dons" was a bootleg version available only in the USA. Wait, that's Pac Man. Sorry. Mike - -- ======== We need love, expression, and truth. We must not allow ourselves to believe that we can fill the round hole of our spirit with the square peg of objective rationale. - Paul Eppinger At non effugies meos iambos - Gaius Valerius Catallus ("...but you won't get away from my poems.") "Moderation in all things, except Wild Turkey." - Evel Knievel ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:41:52 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: I saw a hobo in my room Eb wrote: > > Brilliantly moronic. Not easy to tell if the creator realizes this or not. I think he does: See also animutations.com Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 21:56:36 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: product re-placement Quoting da9ve stovall : > >> As an authentic white guy... > > > >As an authentic fat guy... > > As an authentic bored guy... As an inauthentic guy, I can see pretty much whatever I want without meaning a word of it. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and :: winds up as a processing unit. :: --Soft Boys, note, _Can of Bees_ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:03:19 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Singing Science Records more cool stuff for bored people: - -- yes, it's the "Singing Science" albums from the early 60s. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:36:34 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: Husker Shugazing / Jesus Mould - --- Ken Weingold wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > > The Husker Du / shoegazing comparison brought to > mind the early '90's > > British band that most reminded me of HD-- and I > know I'm gonna get > > bitchsmacked for this: Jesus Jones on their first > album. Sounded like Bob > > Mould with the Bomb Squad for a rhythm section. > Of course their second > > album sucked and thus they scored their massive > international hit, but > > "Liquidizer" sounded pretty cool at the time. > > And Bob also got a lot of shit for Sugar's A Good > Idea sounding like a > Pixies rip-off. > > > -Ken I had read a review a while back that Bob had written it to sound like a pixies song. Not sure what that amounts to, Herbie np -> "mother nature's son" Beatles ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 00:16:13 -0600 From: steve Subject: Unicorn Jelly Where else but - http://www.unicornjelly.com/uni001.html - - Steve __________ I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years, either. - Trent Lott ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 22:53:01 -0800 From: "Asshole Muthafucka" Subject: "I'll cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs!" okay, i've put my website back online. . i'm not going to be updating it, with the exception that if bayard and/or woj would like to periodically send me new/revised gigs info, i'd be happy to keep the giglist up-to-date. you can check out the blog, too, if you'd like. . uh, would it be improper to at least *consider* sleater-kinney's place in the punk-rock pantheon? ONE BEAT is clearly their best record, and they get better every tour as a live unit. (indeed, robyn had better watch his ass, or janet weiss is going to pass him up as my favourite live performer of all times. did y'all see her playing *harmonica* on their cover of bruce's Promised Land during the recent tour? yeow!) and Funeral Song gets my vote for song-of-the-decade thus far. KEN "Can we only know half of the truth?" THE KENSTER ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 11:11:09 +0000 (GMT) From: brian@lazerlove5.com Subject: Re: "I'll cut off your dick and feed it to the pigs!" Quoting Asshole Muthafucka : > okay, > i've put my website back online. Thank God! Thanks, Ken er Eddie..., Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:16:59 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Shocking Reap Mary Hansen of Stereolab, in a road accident... 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Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:00:53 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: january soft boys dates that note in http://www.thesoftboys.com/news.html about the uncertainty for the uk gigs in january has been taken down so, presumably, the date confusion has been cleared up. here's what is listed there now: Italy: Thursday, Jan 16 - Sarzana, Jux Tap Friday, Jan 17 - Biella, Babylonia Saturday, Jan 18 - Chiari, Teatro Toscanini Monday, Jan 20 - Bologna, Ruvido Club Ireland: Wednesday, Jan 22 - Dublin, Music Centre Thursday, Jan 23 - Cork, Triskell Arts Centre UK: Sunday, Jan 26 - Bristol, Fleece & Firkin Monday, Jan 27 - Oxford, The Zodiac Tuesday, Jan 28 - Brighton, Concorde 2 Wednesday, Jan 29 - Cambridge, The Boat Race woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:10:33 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Chameleons, Charlatans, Charmander... OK, I realized when record shopping at lunch today that I had totally run together the Chameleons and the Charlatans, and my "Madchester/baggy pants" reference belongs with the latter band instead of the former, and the former is the band Rex was comparing to Interpol. So big "d'oh" on my part. I have several Charlatans records, but somehow the Chameleons were one of those bands I never investigated at all, maybe because of this confusion in my mind, even though I knew these were different bands and that one predated the other. Were both forced to take on a "U.K." suffix in the U.S.? Anyway, stupid me. later, Miles last played: Material Issue, FREAK CITY SOUNDTRACK ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #419 ********************************