From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #386 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 21 2002 Volume 11 : Number 386 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Old gigs; smashing the Pumpkins [Dr John Halewood ] Re: Oh yeah...THEM too ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: Let the geekery begin | Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 80s [Jeffrey with ] Re: RE: Let the geekery begin | Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 80s ["Stewart ] Re: Peake'd and blown away... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Oh yeah...THEM too [Miles Goosens ] RE: Oh yeah...THEM too ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: Oh yeah...THEM too [Miles Goosens ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #385 [Stefan Cooke ] Corgan, master of the universe [Miles Goosens ] ROBYN HITCHCOCK APPEARING ON "DUETS WITH DENI" FRI NOV 22 [duplanet@globa] Duran Duran, 80s [The Great Quail ] Re: Oh yeah...THEM (Kinks!) too [Miles Goosens ] Hitchcock news ["Reynolds, Russ" (by way of dances w] Re: Kiss my list... [John McIntyre ] Re: Cave/Waits; Out of Time (& Space); '80's list [Miles Goosens ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:30:31 -0000 From: Dr John Halewood Subject: RE: Old gigs; smashing the Pumpkins Eb scribbled: > Lamest inclusions on the Pitchfork list? > ESG/Come Away With ESG (I haven't even heard of this group, but...) > Manuel Gottsching/E2-E4 (ditto) Manuel Gottsching was one of the pioneers of what I suppose you call KrautRock back in the late 60's/early 70's with bands like Ashra Tempel. For some reason little of that genre ever seemed to make much impact in the US at the time, although 20 odd years later their influence seems to be everywhere. the thing i find particularly strange about the Pitchfork list is it's curious assessment of British acts, at least to UK ears. The Stone Roses album regularly gets voted top album of all time while it barely makes it into the Pitchfork top 40. And they managed to leave out the Waterboys, who summed up the 80s in many ways for me (getting increasingly epic and grandiose, then suddenly dropping it and going all folkish). cheers john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:43:26 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Oh yeah...THEM too >From: Eb >Then, I compiled a second list, which was more fun for me. I was >curious to know the most notable artists which I've seen "by >accident." Famous names which I don't collect or endorse, but have >seen anyway. I divided them into a few categories. > >The Boredoms (this show was a kick :)) I'm curious about this one as they are a band I intend to see if I ever get the chance. Was this before or after they "mellowed out" for Super Ae? Brian _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 07:48:09 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Let the geekery begin | Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 80s Quoting Jeff Dwarf : > And any band that names a song after > itself (the soft boys exempted, of course). I thought the band was named after the Chocolate Watchband song. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: This album is dedicated to anyone who started out as an animal and :: winds up as a processing unit. :: --Soft Boys, note, _Can of Bees_ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 9:11:45 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: RE: Let the geekery begin | Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 80s Terrence Marks wrote: > > Thomas Dolby's "The > Golden Age of Wireless" ... belongs there? yes, absolutely. It's the quintessential 80s album. Or was that "Cupid & Psyche 85" from Scritti Politti? ;-) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 9:44:19 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Peake'd and blown away... The Real Mr. Feg wrote: > > To: The Globe and Mail hey, don't diss our local rag. Even if it is owned by Bell. > O here it is! And there it is! > And no one knows who's share it is > ... there's a second verse, of which I can only remember the first line: "A thug it is, and smug it is". I also remember it has chilblains on its knees. > Nusrat Fatah Ali Kahn cool! Peake and NFAK in the same message!! I wonder if NFAK's family having been in the singing business for about 500 years had something to do with him being quite good? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:10:00 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Oh yeah...THEM too At 12:40 AM 11/21/2002 -0700, Eb wrote: >Firstly...two people now have told me the Pretenders' debut came out >in 1979. Can you offer any documentation? CDNow, my Trouser Press >guides and the biggest Pretenders website say the album came out in >January, 1980. I assume you're claiming it came out earlier, outside >the States? Eb, this is really disturbing me, since I would have sworn a stack of bibles that it was 1979, and a hit here in the U.S. at the same time as Rickie Lee Jones' indeciperable "Chuck E.'s in Love" (who would have ever guessed the title just from listening to it? "Chuz eels in love?" "Chud ekes a grub?" What year did C.H.U.D. come out, anyway?), Dylan's "Gotta Serve Somebody," the Doobie Brothers' "What a Fool Believes," i.e., very 1979. But you're right, all the discographies and references say "1980." I haven't been this disconcerted about when and where a piece of music belonged chronologically or physically since I discovered that my import of the Kinks' TO THE BONE didn't have the title track -- even though my wife and I clearly remember hearing the song "To the Bone" and commenting on specifics about it. I think someone is fucking with the space-time continuum again. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:13:45 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Oh yeah...THEM too At 12:40 AM 11/21/2002 -0700, Eb wrote: >Firstly...two people now have told me the Pretenders' debut came out >in 1979. Can you offer any documentation? CDNow, my Trouser Press >guides and the biggest Pretenders website say the album came out in >January, 1980. I assume you're claiming it came out earlier, outside >the States? And Miles wrote: >Eb, this is really disturbing me, since I would have sworn a stack of >bibles that it was 1979, and a hit here in the U.S. at the same time as >Rickie Lee Jones' indeciperable "Chuck E.'s in Love" (who would have ever >guessed the title just from listening to it? "Chuz eels in love?" "Chud >ekes a grub?" What year did C.H.U.D. come out, anyway?), Dylan's "Gotta >Serve Somebody," the Doobie Brothers' "What a Fool Believes," i.e., very >1979. But you're right, all the discographies and references say "1980." Wasn't London Calling released in December of 1979 as well, yet it is often refered to as a 1980 album? Maybe it has to do with a release date in England vs. a North American release date. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:20:39 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Let the geekery begin | Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 80s At 05:14 AM 11/21/2002 +0000, Jason S. Miller wrote: >Me: > >Pitchfork has compiled their list of the best records of the 80s. > > > > http://pitchforkmedia.com/top/80s/ > > > >I own a shameful 27% of the listed records. > >| Miles: >| >| Why shameful? Anyone who acts like the '80s were the decade of ultimate >| cheese (musically speaking) pretty much has his or her head up his or >| her ass. > >Apologies. Let me clarify: I _only_ own a shameful 27% of the listed >records. Gotcha now. >drew: > >> Love and Rockets Express (or Earth, Sun, Moon) > >| Seriously? Wow, those are the records I listen to the least. > >They've only produced 3 decent records. That makes 7th Dream of Teenage >Heaven your favorite? Not that I'm complaining - I love 7th Dream. Or did >you mean of all the records you own those are the 2 you listen to the >least? I'm hoping Drew is about to launch into a defense of the later Love and Rockets records -- like Jason, I don't think they're a patch on the first three, but I'd like to read an intelligent case for HOT TRIP TO HEAVEN, SWEET F.A., and LIFT as the best stuff. (Not to leave out LOVE AND ROCKETS, which I guess belongs with the first three since it's before that long hiatus, but it really should have just been an EP.) For what it's worth, I like a lot of SWEET F.A., especially "Natacha," which I think is the best song from the later albums. >Mike: > >| Also it looks like once again Thin White Rope are stuck holding the bag >| as the greatest friggin' band that nobody cares about. The song "Down In >| The Desert" alone puts them in the '80s top 10 in my book. Mike, Eb, Jeff, me, we'll all vouch for them. SACKFUL OF SILVER as a starting point? Or the live album? They're not on my yearly lists only because I started buying their records during the last five years, and really haven't sat down to figure out what year they belong in... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:22:32 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: Oh yeah...THEM too I would have said '79 as well. A possible explanation is that the Brass In Pocket single was released before the album: http://www.pretendersarchives.com/discography/BrassInPocket-Pretenders.h tml That might account for why some of us remember hearing the Pretenders in '79. +brian in New Orleans Miles: > Eb, this is really disturbing me, since I would have sworn a stack of > bibles that it was 1979, and a hit here in the U.S. at the > same time as > Rickie Lee Jones' indeciperable "Chuck E.'s in Love" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:32:56 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RE: Oh yeah...THEM too At 10:13 AM 11/21/2002 -0500, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Wasn't London Calling released in December of 1979 as well, yet it is >often refered to as a 1980 album? Maybe it has to do with a release date >in England vs. a North American release date. I dunno - going by the discographies, there were Pretenders singles in 1979, so maybe people other than me who say "1979" actually heard and/or bought those singles. I'm not making that case at all, as I'm pretty sure I never heard a thing by 'em until "Brass in Pocket" made its climb on the U.S. charts. Which apparently happened in 1980. And as Eb said, the discographies have the UK and US releases as January 1980. This'll be the third list on which I've said this, but I have no problem with LONDON CALLING being on 1980 lists -- I mean, it came out in the U.K. on 12/14/79, which barely gave anyone there time to play and evaluate it, and it didn't come out until January 1980 in the U.S. I wouldn't quibble with a U.K. person who put it in 1980, and as for this side of the pond -- well, I'll invoke the Stewart Mason "this is where I live" rule, with healthy sides of "it was a lot harder in 1979 to get import records if you lived outside major cities or college towns" and "if it was coming out in the U.S. just a few weeks later, why would I spend the extra money to get an import copy, especially since in those days international mail was so slow that an import would have been lucky to have gotten to my P.O. box before the U.S. release date?" altering the space/time continuum to have the Internet and http://www.action-records.co.uk in 1979, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:55:07 +0000 (UTC) From: Stefan Cooke Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #385 > From: "matt sewell" > > Poor Steve Hanley and Craig Scanlon... Chrissy & I went to see their new > band, after they were unceremoniously sacked from The Fall... the name > was Ark, and SH and CS played rather like they had done in The Fall. > However, their singer was somewhere between a shit Ian Astbury and an > embarrassing Jim Morrison... unsurprisingly they split soon after. Lots of Fall-related discussion on the list lately. For the record, Craig was never in Ark. The original Ark lineup was Steve Hanley, Karl Burns and Tommy Crooks, all of whom left the Fall at the infamous Brownies, NYC gig in 1998, backing the absolutely appalling Pete Nakamura, who had formely played with Marc Riley and the Creepers. Ark are still struggling along and released a crap CD a month or two ago - Brainsold. Steve is still in the band on bass, the drummer is his brother Paul Hanley (also ex-Fall), Pete Nakamura is still the "singer," can't remember offhand who's on guitar. Steve and Paul are also playing in Tom Hingley's (Inspiral Carpets singer) new band, the Lovers. If you're at all curious about the Fall, check out my website, particularly the Fall News section. http://www.visi.com/fall If you want to review tonight's gig, Matt, I'd be happy to post it on the site. Stefan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:42:23 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Corgan, master of the universe Add me to the "can't stand Billy Corgan's voice" brigade -- for all I know, Smashing Pumpkins could have been the most formidable songwriting and playing force of the 1990s, but I'll never know since Corgan's bleat forces me to turn off their stuff in 20 seconds or less. Nice Sonic Youth imitation on "1979," though. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:55:22 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #385 At 08:55 AM 11/21/2002 +0000, Stefan Cooke wrote: >If you're at all curious about the Fall, check out my >website, particularly the Fall News section. > >http://www.visi.com/fall I had never associated our Stefan with this site - d'oh! Stefan, I've used this site extensively ever since I finally converted to Fall fandom, and it's one of the best resources for an artist that's out there. I'm glad to have the opportunity to thank you for your work! later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:58:47 -0500 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: Oh yeah...THEM (Kinks!) too At 09:10 AM 11/21/2002 -0600, Miles wrote: > >I haven't been this disconcerted about when and where a piece of music >belonged chronologically or physically since I discovered that my import of >the Kinks' TO THE BONE didn't have the title track -- even though my wife >and I clearly remember hearing the song "To the Bone" and commenting on >specifics about it. I think someone is fucking with the space-time >continuum again. The import album To the Bone came out first (don't ask me for the date -- my sense of time is way too impressionistic to remember stuff like that); I think that Ray just liked the title (in something I read -- maybe the liner notes -- he claims to have written at least three songs with that title) and wrote the song to be included on the later-released U.S. double CD, which is an expanded version of the live-in-studio stuff along with two new songs (To the Bone, and Animal). The space-time continuum is, of course, fucked, but I think it left this one alone. Eric, whose top-frequency concert band is probably the Kinks (14 times?), starting with the Preservation Tour in '74(?) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:08:37 -0500 From: duplanet@global2000.net (by way of dances with virgos ) Subject: ROBYN HITCHCOCK APPEARING ON "DUETS WITH DENI" FRI NOV 22 Robyn Hitchcock will be appearing on DUETS WITH DENI, this Friday, November 22 at half past midnight. It was taped when in NYC on the recent Soft Boys tour. (Deni is the violinist who has recorded with Robyn and is seen playing with him in the STOREFRONT HITCHCOCK film.) Says Deni: "The format of the show is that we play 3 songs of the guest, one of mine, and a cover tune. In between we chat and have a great time hanging out in my apartment in the West Village. It was great to play with Robyn again as it's been a while, and the cover tune will surprise fans of his, I'm sure! And the following week, Friday, November 29th, we will broadcast the episode with Kimberely Rew. This one was also lots of fun for me, and I think it will be really entertaining for his fans to see Kim doing his own thing!" "DUETS WITH DENI" Hosted by DENI BONET EVERY FRIDAY NIGHT at 12:30 - HALF PAST MIDNIGHT Time Warner Cable - Channel 56 RCN Cable - Channel 108 Streamed over the Internet at: www.mnn.org Click channel 56 New live performance & chat show, showcasing contemporary musician-types from New York & beyond... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:21:19 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Duran Duran, 80s Rex writes, > I'm always surprised when I run into people who defend > Duran Duran. I never think of them as a real band. Well, count me as a defender! In fact, before I discovered art rock and prog, Duran Duran were my favorite group, from 9-10th grade. I still think their first three albums are pretty damn good, with "Rio" being the height of their career, and quite deservedly one of the best albums of the 80s. In fact, I still listen to it, and I am always thinking, "Hey, this really was good." I agree with Eb -- the Pitchfork list is skewed, and I can't imagine that they omitted "If I Should Fall from Grace with God" and "Lifes Rich Pageant," two of my Top Ten 80s albums. Though "Remain in Light," "Joshua Tree," "Discipline," and "Scary Monsters" are all on my Top Ten Goddamn Best Albums of All Time, so I have no complaints! - --Quail, an ardent Smashing Pumpkins fan PS: And, yeah Eb -- I did have to sit through some bad opening acts! Though I saw Blues Traveler voluntarily, and used to like them tolerably well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com If I have said anything to the contrary I was mistaken. If I say anything to the contrary again I shall be mistaken again. Unless I am mistaken now. Into the dossier with it in any case, in support of whatever thesis you fancy. --Samuel Beckett, "The Unnamable" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:30:54 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Oh yeah...THEM (Kinks!) too At 10:58 AM 11/21/2002 -0500, Eric Loehr wrote: >At 09:10 AM 11/21/2002 -0600, Miles wrote: >> >>I haven't been this disconcerted about when and where a piece of music >>belonged chronologically or physically since I discovered that my import of >>the Kinks' TO THE BONE didn't have the title track -- even though my wife >>and I clearly remember hearing the song "To the Bone" and commenting on >>specifics about it. I think someone is fucking with the space-time >>continuum again. > >The import album To the Bone came out first (don't ask me for the date -- >my sense of time is way too impressionistic to remember stuff like that); I >think that Ray just liked the title (in something I read -- maybe the liner >notes -- he claims to have written at least three songs with that title) >and wrote the song to be included on the later-released U.S. double CD, >which is an expanded version of the live-in-studio stuff along with two new >songs (To the Bone, and Animal). Well, yeah, and I have the later double-disc U.S. version, of course. But I know I heard the song "To the Bone" well before the U.S. version came out, and can even picture the circumstances (location, activity at the time, etc.). In fact, what prompted me to make the jarring discovery that "To the Bone" wasn't on the import was when I picked up the U.S. version and read the sticker blurb about how "To the Bone" was a new song just on the U.S. release. I thought "no way! I've had it on the import forever!" Got back home, pulled out the import, and (cue PSYCHO soundtrack)... IT WASN'T THERE ANYMORE. This was actually pretty scary to experience. Then I took the U.S. release out of the shrinkwrap, cued up "To the Bone"... and it was the same song I was remembering. It's just one of those moments that I have no explanation for, like the three or four big deja vu moments I've had in my 35 years -- stuff I wouldn't believe if it hadn't happened to me. I'm not going to be so adamant about the chronology of the Pretenders album, though -- I'll chalk that one up to a faulty memory that might have run together the singles I heard and liked as a 12 and 13 year-old kid. Our local top 40 stations tended to keep things on playlists for a while, so on any day in April 1980 you were probably as likely to hear a song from FLEETWOOD MAC or HOTEL CALIFORNIA as you were "Brass in Pocket." >Eric, whose top-frequency concert band is probably the Kinks (14 times?), >starting with the Preservation Tour in '74(?) Oh, how I wish... The Kinks played Charleston, WV, a lot in their stadium act days of the late '70s and early '80s, but attending rock shows wasn't a realistic option until I was 18 and out of the house. Which wasn't until 1985, which was just about the same time that the Kinks quit coming to Charleston. Dammit. Moved to Nashville in '88 and they didn't come anywhere close. We finally got to see Ray Davies a few years back, travelling three hours to Knoxville to do so (the show was in the Tennessee Theatre, a beautiful vintage moviehouse). Earlier this year, a friend spotted Ray in Grimey's, a cool local bar, but Ray couldn't be persuaded to take the stage. Don't know why he was here -- maybe doing some recording or mastering or such. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:47:18 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Duran Duran, 80s On Thu, Nov 21, 2002, The Great Quail wrote: > Well, count me as a defender! In fact, before I discovered art rock and > prog, Duran Duran were my favorite group, from 9-10th grade. I still think > their first three albums are pretty damn good, with "Rio" being the height > of their career, and quite deservedly one of the best albums of the 80s. In > fact, I still listen to it, and I am always thinking, "Hey, this really was > good." I'm with you on Duran Duran. I was in 6th grade at the time, so it was probably about the same time. 1984 I think. I remember being in Florida visiting my relatives and my cousin and I sat in front of MTV waiting for the "world premier" of The Reflex video. We were so excited. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:55:25 -0500 From: "Reynolds, Russ" (by way of dances with virgos ) Subject: Hitchcock news Apparently the story Robyn submitted to Greg Kihn for his forthcoming compilation of short stories by musicians is titled "Narcissus". Don't know how he's been introducing the song live but I would suspect that might offer some clue as to what the story is about. Greg has revealed only that it's about a rock star named Narcissus and it's "kinda weird" (I would expect no less from our boy). The book is targeted to hit the shelves in the fall of 2003. Russ Reynolds ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:01:51 -0500 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: Kiss my list... Timothy Reed wrote: > Putting together my list of live shows was fun. Do I need a database > for this too? Maybe I'm reading these lists too fast, but it looks like > nobody's seen Kiss live. I'd always wanted to see them - I had vowed to > buy every record until the 3rd live album, and in hindsight am glad I > did - Kiss Unmasked for instance is an unheard pop classic and Rock and > Roll Over is still good. I'll raise my paw as someone who has seen Kiss live. Alas, it was during their no make-up period. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:03:16 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Cave/Waits; Out of Time (& Space); '80's list At 10:28 AM 11/20/2002 -0800, Rex.Broome wrote: >Miles: >>>Are you sure we're talking about 10/87? 10,000 Maniacs opened this show > >Oh hell, you're right-- it was the '89 tour. Seeing as how they opened with >a song called "Pop Song 89". Duh. Actually, they played "Pop Song 89" at several stops in 1987. (Not at the Charleston show, though we did get "Orange Crush" -- in those pre-Internet days, I had to wait until GREEN came out over a year later to put a title with it.) I guess it wouldn't have had "89" in the title at that point, but it's the same song. >It's so funny how, out of >context, I see all locations in WV as the same, since they come up so rarely >in my life these days. And to think I was a Knight of the Golden Horseshoe! I got totally screwed out of that. 8th Grade was the last year of eligibility for the Spelling Bee, and when the original county-level Spelling Bee date got snowed out, it was rescheduled for the same day as the Golden Horseshoe. I had to choose which one of these "no other chance to do this, ever" events to go to, and picked the Spelling Bee. I've regretted this ever since. I didn't get out of the county in the Spelling Bee -- I was in the final ten, but got tripped up on "hummocky." I would have been a lock for the Horseshoe, though. Grafton! Lake Tygart! Dimwiddie! 1863! Heck, I should see if they'd reinstate my eligibility. Do other states make you take a year of state history if you're in public school? Just curious. I've never heard people from other states talk about winning an Obsidian Manacle or Splendid Order of the Rock Chalk Jayhawk for knowledge of state history, but maybe I just didn't know what they were talking about. >"Best of the '80's" list: >I heartily approve) but I can't quite suss the multiple entries for Talk >Talk (??). It was at that moment that I expected to see glenn mcdonald's byline. (OK, maybe this was just for the Loud-Fans in the audience, though I daresay some of the rest of you have probably read http://www.furia.com/twas at some point.) Like with Duran Duran, I like Talk Talk, particularly SPIRIT OF EDEN, but there's no way they'd touch my top 100 of the '80s. I second everything Jeffrey said in defense of the Durannies' RIO, but there's so much stuff that's so much better that I'd want to take ahead of it. I might have developed a real contempt for Duran Duran were I a few years younger, but I was in high school by the time they became teen idols in the U.S. By then, my Contemptuous Teenybopper Fluff slots had long ago been filled by Leif Garrett and Shaun Cassidy, the favorites of girls in my class back when they were in that annoying pre-teen giggly phase. One girl in my 3rd grade class wore her powder-blue Shaun Cassidy shirt to school at least every other day, and I suspect that her mom had to forcibly separate it from her body on the days when she didn't wear it. Anyway, come 1981-85, I was left free to appreciate (RIO) or denigrate (SEVEN AND THE RAGGED TIGER, except for the mighty remix of "The Reflex") the Durannies on their own merits... later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:40:51 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Let the geekery begin | Pitchfork's Top 100 of the 80s on 11/21/02 6:11 AM, Stewart C. Russell at scruss@sympatico.ca wrote: > Terrence Marks wrote: >> >> Thomas Dolby's "The >> Golden Age of Wireless" ... belongs there? > > yes, absolutely. It's the quintessential 80s album. > Or was that "Cupid & Psyche 85" from Scritti Politti? Oh my god, I have that on vinyl too. I've got to dig out my lp's some day to see what kind of weird shit I used to buy... On a more redeeming note, the first RH I bought was the Armegeddon pressing of BSDR, sometime around '84 - '85. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 12:58:59 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Cave/Waits; Out of Time (& Space); '80's list On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > Do other states make you take a year of state history if you're in > public school? Just curious. I've never heard people from other states > talk about winning an Obsidian Manacle or Splendid Order of the Rock > Chalk Jayhawk for knowledge of state history, but maybe I just didn't > know what they were talking about. We had more than a year of state history, but without any Masonic trappings. a ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 13:06:18 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Cave/Waits; Out of Time (& Space); '80's list On Thu, 21 Nov 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > Do other states make you take a year of state history if you're in > public school? Just curious. I've never heard people from other states > talk about winning an Obsidian Manacle or Splendid Order of the Rock > Chalk Jayhawk for knowledge of state history, but maybe I just didn't > know what they were talking about. There are other states besides NYC? ;-) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:12:02 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Geekerie 100 Jason Brown on the Spinners: > Their hits included: Could It Be >I'm Falling in Love, It's a Shame, I'll Be Around, One of a Kind Love >Affair, Living a Little Laughing a Little, Then Came You (w/ Dionne >Warwick), Ghetto Child, and The Rubberband Man. Really great stuff all >around. Hear. Hear. As for hits, also "Mighty Love" and "Games People Play." Its funny how you can hate music at a certain time cause you dont like the person who introduces you to it(and they play it at full volume all the time without asking anyone else around if they mind,) and then realize later that its great music. - ----------- I probobly own about 30% of the Pitchfork list. The following are my, (even living under a rock, I must ask-- how could they leave these out?) discs: Robyn Hitchcock, I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS Element of Light - Robyn Hitchcock Richard & Linda Thompson--Shoot Out the Lights - Prince - 1999 - Dire Straits --Brothers in Arms - Lloyd Cole & The Commotions -- Rattlesnakes - Billy Bragg/Talking with the Taxman about Poetry Empty Glass - Pete Townshend Crowded House - Crowded House Wire, A BELL IS A CUP UNTIL IT IS STRUCK Crowded House/Temple of Low Men Julian Cope, WORLD SHUT YOUR MOUTH Copperhead Road - Steve Earle Also the probobly mucho uncool, unpitchforky choice of one of my all time favorites: Ossian's Dove Across the Water. 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