From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #379 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 19 2002 Volume 11 : Number 379 Today's Subjects: ----------------- blown away by + beaks and eyes = banana yellow strat ["Michael E. Kupietz] Re: concerts + [Eb ] RE: All to [sic] Much ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" ] Sex and rock'n'roll (I won't bore you with drugs...) [crowbar.joe@btopenw] Re: Sex and rock'n'roll (I won't bore you with drugs...) ["matt sewell" <] Re: blown by Richard Thompson [Ken Weingold ] Re: Sex and rock'n'roll (I won't bore you with drugs...) [Michael R Godwi] Re: Best live bands [The Great Quail ] Found Morris's drums ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Fear no crab ["Montauk Daisy" ] Re: Found Morris's drums [Keith Hanlon ] Re: Found Morris's drums [steve ] Re: blown by Richard Thompson ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Cash [The Great Quail ] Re: Found Morris's drums [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Found Morris's drums ["Jason R. Thornton" ] repeat acts, and a confession [Christopher Gross ] Re: repeat acts, and a confession [Ken Weingold ] Re: repeat acts, and a confession [Christopher Gross ] more feg fan fiction? ["ross taylor" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:12:18 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: blown away by + beaks and eyes = banana yellow strat At 2:51 PM -0500 11/18/02, Ken Weingold spake thus: >So what are some of the bands that live completely blew you away? The >bands that have left you speechless, thinking "What the fuck did I >just experience?" Three-way tie for first: Richard Thompson solo acoustic, Buddy Guy, RH & Grant Lee Phillips at the Great American two years ago. Other peak shows: my first-ever time hearing RH's music, at Irving Plaza on the Element Of Light tour, Idiot Flesh at Transmission Theater here in SF (any other Bay Areans get to see them?) If I could cheat and add a live show I only saw on video, the first place tie would be four-way, with The Who @ Tanglewood in Oct. '68. Might even be the best live show I've ever seen, heard, in person, on record, on video, *anywhere*. How could four guys generate that much fury? Also on top of the list, but of short duration: a few minutes of John Hammond Jr. warming up while chatting with me backstage before a gig - man did I have a hard time focusing on what he was saying and not staring at his hands! And an unbelievable, soaring two minutes of bass solo in the middle of an otherwise lousy concert by John Entwhistle in '88 or so. Honorable mention: Zappa & Co. doing "I Am The Walrus" and "Stairway To Heaven", with Jimmy Page's solo orchestrated for four horns. At 12:11 PM +1300 11/19/02, James Dignan spake thus: >I've just realised there's a nice pun in "Lions and Tigers", my >least-favouite NDL track (made worse by the fact that it follows my >favourite). > >The world is run by keepers >With keeper beaks and keeper eyes > >IIRC, "Beaks" and "Eyes" are both slang terms for informers. Robyn, in a rare moment of plainspokenness: (from ) ...On the 2000 Underwater Moonlight tour, Hitchcock dedicated "I Wanna Destroy You" to then newly "elected" (or whatever) Commander in Chief George W. Bush. Similarly, "Lions and Tigers," the new LP's closing track, sounds like pure Hitchcock Dadaism at first, until you listen a bit closer to the lyrics. "I thought if I was too specific, it would spoil it," he says. "But 'the Keeper with the beak and eyes too close together' is obviously George W. Bush. I hate to interpret my songs too much--either they happen or they don't. I really wish I was able to write political songs in the way that Billy Bragg sometimes can or a lot of rappers do. But it's really not my gift to do that. I wish someone was writing songs right now like [Dylan's] 'Masters of War.' I don't think anybody is, but maybe that's because the truth is so bad that nobody wants to hear it. "Whenever I try to encapsulate the political situation, though, it comes out really dour: 'The world is run by greedy bastards who will be the death of us all.' Either you know that already, or you're never going to know. So the closest I get is oblique references like, 'Love me tender on the roof/Afterwards there'll be no proof,' which was inspired by those poor people jumping off the [World Trade Center] hand in hand. Or 'Lions and Tigers meet the same fate as each other.' Which is [about] Christian fundamentalism vs. Islamic fundamentalism." At 7:44 PM -0500 11/18/02, Jill Brand spake thus: >Michael wrote: > I have to put "We Built This City" as my number 1 >worse song of all time. Grace Slick really sold out >big time on that turd. I think the disappointment of >the sell out by Grace vaults Starship over the competition. Man, I've been spending too much time reading this list. Out of the corner of my eye I thought I just saw a woman get on the bus carrying a banana yellow strat. I looked up and it was a shopping bag. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:20:32 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: concerts + >Kay: >I wish I had seen the Spinners in their heyday Odd choice to single out for the short list.... >From: "Greta Swann" >Hi All AGAIN! HI! Please post incessantly. Thanks. >But I do have a question. I bought David Bowie's "Scary Monsters" >and I can tell its really cool >but what is it about? Or are lyrics geeky and I should just listen >to the cool music instead. In that particular case, I'd say the music is a lot more exciting than the words. Great album, though. >From: "Rex.Broome" > >Including parking, food & drinks, >that last Soft Boys show cost me damned near $100. Totally worth it, but >not something I can do on a weekly basis these days... My god...how did you manage to spend $100? Tickets were, what, $20? I'd say a significant chunk of that $100 was your own choice. I didn't pay to park at that show. I think I *did* buy one $3 cup of 7-Up, but that's a rarity. I had gone running just before leaving for the show, and was still feeling dehydrated. >Dignan: >Oddly, I've never seen Chris Knox >live. Not sure why. Wow...that's surprising. I was at a Wondermints show a month or so ago, and met an Australian man who had seen *Toy Love* live. I was agape! >From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" > >Hey, here's a brainteaster for you all: Who is the only act in the history >of the Billboard charts whose first album appeared on the charts at #1 on >the first week it was out? Great question! No idea about the answer. Some descendent of an established, wildly popular band? Or don't descendent bands/artists "count"? Maybe Men at Work? Boston? Christopher Cross? Meatloaf? Dunno. I bet the answer is one of those "Oh, THAT figures..." revelations, though. >From: Perry Amberson > >2 times: >Oh, OK (82, 83) 1 time: >Snakefinger (81) >Richard Hell and the Voidoids (82) Interesting! Envious of these experiences. Not to mention the big Swaggart gig. ;) I'm also envious of those folks who got to see the Kinks live. Even the mediocre, later version. I guess the time has passed altogether by now, huh? >From: "glen uber" > >James Coburn, 74. Aww, jeez. First I've heard of this. You'd think he would have lived to be about 130, given his hardy character. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:54:18 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: RE: All to [sic] Much At 12:42 AM -0500 11/19/02, Timothy Reed spake thus: >> >> Hey, here's a brainteaster for you all: Who is the only act in the >> >>history of the Billboard charts whose first album appeared on the >> >>charts at #1 on the first week it was out? >> >> >> Mike > >Leonard Nimoy! > >http://home.earthlink.net/~daveklop/baggins.mov > BWAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! ROFLMAO! Pardon me while I scrape what's left of my brains off the ceiling. Now THAT is a link worth forwarding. No, It's not Leonard Nimoy, but you're getting MUCH warmer. Look closely at that video. It may take you three or four times. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:58:50 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: RE: All to [sic] Much (2) At 12:42 AM -0500 11/19/02, Timothy Reed spake thus: >> >> Hey, here's a brainteaster for you all: Who is the only act in the >> >>history of the Billboard charts whose first album appeared on the >> >>charts at #1 on the first week it was out? >> >> >> Mike > >Leonard Nimoy! > >http://home.earthlink.net/~daveklop/baggins.mov > Hey, wait a minute - is that scene an out-take from the episode "Amok Time"? - -Mike, never thinking of the good lines until the email's already been sent. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:00:52 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: RE: All to [sic] Much (3) At 12:42 AM -0500 11/19/02, Timothy Reed spake thus: >> >> Hey, here's a brainteaster for you all: Who is the only act in the >> >>history of the Billboard charts whose first album appeared on the >> >>charts at #1 on the first week it was out? >> >> >> Mike > >Leonard Nimoy! > >http://home.earthlink.net/~daveklop/baggins.mov > Oh, man [chortle]. And just look at those sets and props - how much did they spend on this thing? It must've cost at least $1.82! (1967 dollars) - -Mike, Drying his eyes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:34:21 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Know this: it will end in arthropods. And as arthropods, they're out on their own - not arachnid, insect or crustacean - they are horseshoe crabs and there are 4 species... Cheers Matt >From: Christopher Gross > >Another cool thing about horseshoe crabs is that you can pick them up by >the spiky tail and menace Philadelphian tourists ("shoobies") with them! >Not that I ever did so, of course. > > >--Chris > >______________________________________________________________________ >Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. >chrisg@gwu.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 7:42:25 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Know this: it will end in arthropods. Michael E. Kupietz wrote: > > Let's not forget chocolates filled with Pear William but isn't that just a kind of pear? Peake mentions a fairy "like a William Pear" in one of his poems. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:20:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Know this: it will end in arthropods (Class Merostomata) On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, matt sewell wrote: > And as arthropods, they're out on their own - not arachnid, insect or > crustacean - they are horseshoe crabs and there are 4 species... Not according to which backs the arachnid classification (but can't spell horseshoe). However, the more authoritative-looking agrees with you, stating that the arthropods consist of insects, arachnids, crustaceans and merostomata (which are horseshoe crabs and [presumably] trilobites). OTOH, they spell trilobites wrongly on one page ... Anyway, I've always called them King Crabs whenever they came up in conversation - which is not that often. But the fearsome-looking creature at looks like a real crab to me. So I'm puzzled. - - Mike "knackered after lecturing on T-tests and F-tests" Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 8:37:11 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: If anyone remembers the urinal cakes thread.... I give you this: (when was that thread? 97? 98?) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:09:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Cock-a-doodle-doo! This fab site has just come on line, featuring newsreels up to 1970: http://www.britishpathe.com/index.cfm Being a Syd obseessive, I immediately ran a Floyd search: http://www.britishpathe.com/product_display.cfm?Search.x=14&Search.y=32&searchfilm=Pink+Floyd# 2 items appeared, both apparently a promo for 'Scarecrow'. But I got an "Error processing request" message when I tried to play it, and also when I tried to view pictures of the zeppelin 'Hindenburg'. Any of you computer people know why I can't make it work? Maybe my university link just isn't fast enough? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:21:02 +0000 (GMT) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Sex and rock'n'roll (I won't bore you with drugs...) "Why did I miss out on the whole 'Girls dress like hookers and act like them, too' era? Wha'? You mean you like women you have to pay for sex, and then they don't even really enjoy it?! (Insert your own cheap joke about current relationship/ ex-wife etc.) Best live performers in my experience - Cramps Screaming Blue Messiahs Pirates (Johnny Kidd's erstwhile backing band) Soft Boys Stella Chiweshe (Zimbabwean mbira player) Chuck Berry (once crap, once genius) Butthole Surfers Jacks/Cadets ('50s doo-wop band[s]) Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (not this year tho'....) Gilad Atzmon (jazz sax) Wilko Johnson Ian Dury & The Blockheads (they're pretty good without Dury an' all). Faust Gary Lucas (ex-Beefheart guitarist) Wondermints Elvis Costello Justin Adams & The Wayward Sheiks PJ Harvey Petit Vodo (French, one-man-punk-blues-band!!!) Pere Ubu Buddy Guy & Junior Wells (Clapton got up and Buddy blew him away...) Jerry Lee Lewis Asleep At The Wheel k.d.lang RL Burnside I'm well impressed that Perry has seen Jerry Lee *and* his cousin Jimmy Swaggart! Seen Robyn 20-ish times solo. Twice with the Egyptians (I was bored, I'm ashamed to admit). 6 times with Soft Boys. If I'd shown a bit more gumption as a teenager, 20 odd miles down the road from Cambridge, I would have been able to see the original incarnation. At least I bought UM in its month of release though ;-) Thanks to anyone off or on-list who has given me Memphis/N'awlins tips. And apols for suggesting that Memphis was an ancient Greek city, when it was obviously (and appropriately) Egyptian. Though in my defence the Ptolemaic influence was strong, and wasn't Cleo a Greek?....I was also drunk... Crowbar Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:28:10 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Sex and rock'n'roll (I won't bore you with drugs...) Surely you mean "Wha'? You mean women with no front teeth, built like brick shithouses trying constantly to get the ball out from under your scrum"? Yes, that's right, I really do have nothing better to do... Cheers Matt >From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com >"Why did I miss out on the whole 'Girls dress like hookers and act like >them, too' era? > >Wha'? You mean you like women you have to pay for sex, and then they don't even really enjoy it?! (Insert your own cheap joke about current relationship/ ex-wife etc.) > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:36:26 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: blown by Richard Thompson God dammit. How could I forget to mention Richard Thompson. Yeah, I could just watch him play guitar for hours. So incredible, such a character, such a musician. I love heard comments from guitarists who see Thompson for the first time make comments like, "You can't do that!" - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:36:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Sex and rock'n'roll (I won't bore you with drugs...) On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com wrote: > Gary Lucas (ex-Beefheart guitarist) I expect you're aware that Gary, along with John French(!!!), Mark "Rockette Morton" Boston (!!!!), and Denny Walley are playing as the Magic Band at the Shepherd's Bush Empire on 7th April. Presumably it will be all instrumentals, as Don is definitely not up for it. I hope that one or two more alumni will join the bill, but that may just be wishful thinking. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:46:56 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Best live bands Ken asks, > So what are some of the bands that live completely blew you away? The > bands that have left you speechless, thinking "What the fuck did I > just experience?" 1. Hawkwind at the Limelight, NYC, 1995. 2. Frank Zappa in Allentown the year before his death. 3. Bowie at the Colden Auditorium, Queens, 2002, third row seat! 4. Einsturzende Neubauten, Bowery Ballroom, NYC, 2000. 5. Sonic Youth, Hershey Arena, on tour with Neil Young. Phish also blew me away at the Clifford Ball, but that was a cumulative weekend sort of blow-away experience. - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 06:54:36 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Found Morris's drums Morris is playing a Yamaha Rick Marotta Signature Hipgig drum set: . Neat drum kit. Who the hell is Rick Marotta? . Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:55:33 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Fear no crab James on beaks and eyes. Good call, beaks isnt that common a usage so I didn't catch it. Is it jail slang? - ------------------ Got Side 3 last night. Damn this is a complex work, every song, either thru images or wording, can relate to at least a few other songs. Love it. The elephant in" Narcissus"--le phant(am)? Or am I barking up the wrong goulish tree trunk and it justs phallic symbol time again coming thru? Cause it seems almost discordant to me --all the rest of the symbology flows naturally then you run smack into an elephant. Memory? The elephant the three blind men think is totally different? Lots more of diachotomy. I think "Disconnection of the Ruling Classes" ties in with "Lions and Tigers" that way, they're both about who has the power and who dosnt. Then there is "Coming Thru" which mentions power. I like the slightly vaudville sound of "Om" and "Coming Thru," I hadn't realized it, but Ive missed that part of Robyn's arsenal. Glad its back, it works well. - ------------------------- Pointy: >Oh, sure, Rex "Trying hard not to get busted for crossing state lines with >intent to engage in criminal acts with a minor" Broome So that means ... Rex is Chuck Berry! Hmmm, probobly not, but to be on the safe side, never go to the bathroom in his house. - ---------------- Are sand flies no-see-ems? I hate no-see-ems. They're as bad as eyes and beaks. - ---------------- Add Roxy Music to my wishlist. - ---------------- Tom. with all the LI beach time Ive put in on, I have never been pronged by a crab. Bathe in peace. Kay,who has some dried, gutted horsehoe crab shells she plans - someday- to make into -something-. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:03:55 -0500 From: Keith Hanlon Subject: Re: Found Morris's drums Rick is a great drummer who's played on countless albums... Yoko Ono, Carly Simon, Peter Gabriel, and hundreds of others. The Hip Gig kits are pretty cool. I like Manu Katche's model the best. Keith - ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Here are some websites: http://www.orchestraville.com http://www.citizenkeith.com http://www.zapruderred.net - ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> For some reason, on Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 9:54:36 AM, you wrote: EHJ> Morris is playing a Yamaha Rick Marotta Signature Hipgig drum set: EHJ> . EHJ> Neat drum kit. Who the hell is Rick Marotta? EHJ> . EHJ> Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site EHJ> http://webhosting.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:05:47 -0600 From: steve Subject: Re: Found Morris's drums On Tuesday, November 19, 2002, at 08:54 AM, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Neat drum kit. Who the hell is Rick Marotta? http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers7/RickMarotta.html - - Steve, who saw the Kinks with Cheap Trick opening __________ The Bushies hail pre-emption as a brilliant innovation by The Man, except when they're downplaying it as nothing new to worry about. - Michael Kinsley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:10:25 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: blown by Richard Thompson Ken Weingold wrote: > > I could just watch him play guitar for hours. he's very amusing when he forgets how a song goes, and everything crashes to a halt. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:35:08 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Cash Rex writes, > First time I saw Johnny Cash (1990 I think) I expected a slightly > embarassing nostalgia trip and was delighted to be proven wrong. (I am > truly worried that, after holding his own for three albums, Cash has > finally been steered wrong by Rick Rubin on the new one... Depeche Mode and > NIN covers??? Yecchhh.) Man, no way! I love both those covers, He really turns "Hurt" into his own song, and "Personal Jesus" sounds rather seedy in his baritone growl.... One reviewer I read remarked that he sounded more like a huckster traveling preacher out to lay the ladies of his flock rather than save souls, and I think that pegs it nicely! I am a big fan of the Cash/Rubin "American" recordings, and I think Cash can totally take a cover song and make it his own. He Old Testament voice recontextualizes everything it sings..... - --Quail, a die-hard Johnny Cash fan since the age of 7. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:44:05 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Found Morris's drums On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Morris is playing a Yamaha Rick Marotta Signature Hipgig drum set: > . > Neat drum kit. Who the hell is Rick Marotta? Someone answered this. Also elder brother of the more famous Jerry http://www.jerrymarotta.com/ who has played with everybody (Gabriel, Levin, Fripp, Costello, Cher, Macca, Bonnie Tyler(!!!), Robbie Robertson ect ect). I also thought he had done sessions with Brian Ferry, but he doesn't mention it... - - MRG PS I tried to compile a list of fave rave gigs, but it got out of hand. For starters: Pink Floyd, Games for May, Queen Elizabeth Hall, 1967 Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, Middle Earth 1968 Farewell Cream, Albert Hall 1969 The Who at Bath Pavilion, 1969 (I wore my socks out at this one) Rolling Stones, Bristol Colston Hall 1971 Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band, Bristol Colston Hall 1972 Little Feat supporting the Doobie Brothers, Rainbow 1974 Television and the Only Ones, Hammersmith Odeon 1978(?) Live Stiffs, Bath University 1978 (Nick and Dave, Wreckless Eric, Ian Dury and the Blockheads, Elvis Costello and the Attractions) Soft White Underbelly, Dunstable Civic Hall 1981 (they played Joan Crawford has risen from the grave, Veteran of the Psychic Wars, Heavy metal the black and silver, as well as the usual stuff) King Crimson did a couple of hot gigs at Bath Moles club in the 80s under the pseudonym 'Discipline' Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians, Glastonbury 1986 Velvet Underground, Wembley Arena 1988 Those crazy Hitchcock outings to the Isle of Wight, 1995-7. I must try to get all this stuff codified... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 08:32:08 -0800 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Found Morris's drums At 03:44 PM 11/19/2002 +0000, Michael R Godwin wrote: >On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > > Morris is playing a Yamaha Rick Marotta Signature Hipgig drum set: > > . > > Neat drum kit. Who the hell is Rick Marotta? > >Someone answered this. Also elder brother of the more famous Jerry >http://www.jerrymarotta.com/ >who has played with everybody (Gabriel, Levin, Fripp, Costello, Cher, >Macca, Bonnie Tyler(!!!), Robbie Robertson ect ect). I also thought he had >done sessions with Brian Ferry, but he doesn't mention it... I believe it was Rick that worked with Ferry. Rick now writes music for TV - - the most famous probably being for theme music for the show "Everybody Loves Raymond." My good friend, and proggy Stick player, Tom Griesgraber just got back from Woodstock Sunday, where he was out recording an album and touring with Jerry: http://www.jerrymarotta.com/tomgriesgraber.html http://www.jerrymarotta.com/news.html http://www.thossounds.com (if you search around here long enough, you can find a few photos of Tom taken by me - and more importantly a few of me) - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:39:53 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: repeat acts, and a confession Okay, I already posted briefly on this subject, but I can't resist making a list. (This doesn't count strictly local acts, except for a few favorites.) Robyn Hitchcock (solo or with a non-Soft Boys, non-Egyptians band): 9 Phish: 9 Neo Pseudo: not sure, but somewhere around 9 Bet Williams: also estimate about 9 (note: she was "Beth" back then) Switchblade Symphony: 7 Soft Boys: 5 Come: 5 Uz Jsme Doma: 5 Secular Mechanism: 5 Feckless Beast: 4 Gibb Droll Band: 4 Sunshine Blind: 3 Neutral Milk Hotel: 3 Electric Hellfire Club: 3 Sister Machine Gun: 3 Young Fresh Fellows: 3 Nik Turner's Hawkwind: 2 U2: 2 L7: 2 Bauhaus: 2 Tim Keegan's Departure Lounge: 2 Porcupine Tree: 2 Front Line Assembly: 2 My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult: 2 Die Krupps: 2 King Crimson: 2 Moby: 2 Orbital: 2 Cosmicity: 2 The Creatures: 2 Covenant: 2 Elf Power: 2 Faith and the Muse: 2 Nashville Pussy: 2 Blues Traveller: 2 Apocalypse Theater: 2 that band that opened for the Soft Boys in NYC this year: 2 selected acts that I've only seen once: Pink Floyd, Sisters of Mercy, Ramones, Bowie, PJ Harvey, Bjork, REM, Sleater-Kinney, The Cure. selected acts that I've *never* seen, but want to/wish I had: Tori Amos, Einsturzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, a full Hawkwind, Rush, RH with the Egyptians, The Pogues, Nick Cave, many others. Going back to the filing thread, I use alphabetical by artist, chronological within artist, RH solo and Egyptians together but Soft Boys separate, classical and popular together, compilations at the end alphabetical by title. One deeply shameful confession: I have Die Kreuzen and Die Krupps under D, not K. Man, if one of my shelvers at work did that, I'd tie him down and pelt him with Ulrich's Periodical Directory! But then, I've always been the "do as I say, not as I do" sort of manager. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:44:02 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: repeat acts, and a confession On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > selected acts that I've *never* seen, but want to/wish I had: Tori Amos, > Einsturzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, a full Hawkwind, Rush, RH with the > Egyptians, The Pogues, Nick Cave, many others. "A full Hawkwind"? Does that mean with Lemmy? - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:54:24 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: repeat acts, and a confession On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > > selected acts that I've *never* seen, but want to/wish I had: Tori Amos, > > Einsturzende Neubauten, Skinny Puppy, a full Hawkwind, Rush, RH with the > > Egyptians, The Pogues, Nick Cave, many others. > > "A full Hawkwind"? Does that mean with Lemmy? Not necessarily, but it *would* be neat! I was mainly thinking of seeing Dave Brock and Nik Turner in the same Hawkwind at the same time, plus as many of the others as possible. I know I can never really see a full Hawkwind, since Bob Calvert is dead. - --Chris np: DC's state song: car horns outside my window ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:11:27 -0500 From: "ross taylor" Subject: more feg fan fiction? This is my 3rd self-promo this fall & I promise not to do it again for a long time. I have a story in the current issue of Gargoyle that was inspired by the '01 SBs tour & features a Brit indie-pop singer who has connections to the US & is also a 60s person w/ connections to punk. It is NOT supposed to be a portrait of Robyn. I don't know much about Robyn. It's a guy w/ the above characteristics who I then put a personality onto that fits w/ the story. But I did steal one tiny detail from Matthew's tour diary. It was written in the summer of '01 & the jokes about the Stones were just fortuitus. I only hoped it would get published while the Stones were still in existance. Mostly the "action" concerns the Americans & the British singer just observes & comments. And I'm afraid it's a pretty conventional story. Info on the issue is here: www.atticusbooks.com/gargoyle/gargoyle.html Also in the issue is a Jonathan Vaile. If he is also the feg Jonathan Vail(?), great poem, & I'll see you at DCAC Dec. 7th. If not, please excuse my confusion. I'll be brazen enuf to say that even if you don't like my story excerpt below or miss this issue, Gargoyle is worth checking out. It has featured folks like Richard Hell & Ray Bradbury & the editor, Rick Peabody is rock-knowing & a Robyn fan. In fact, I can't speak for him, but I bet he'd like to get something from Robyn ... The story is called "A Memorable Fancy" and here's an excerpt: - --- Mr. Waye looked across the empty hall and caught the eye of his drummer, who was tall and seemed to be made of fashionable black pipe-cleaners bent roughly into the shape of arms and legs. The drummer's eye was full of humor and this was good for Mr. Waye, who wasn't really nervous yet and might not be. The fellows in the opening band seemed to find things amusing too. The manager turned around and found himself getting a quiet how-do-you-do from Clark Waye, but Mr. Waye was also still monitoring the openers. There was a short fat one who seemed to be making most of the jokes, but he seemed fairly sophisticated about it. His words were not audible, but his imitation of W.C. Fields' voice was. There was a tall one with sunken eyes and a wide grin who gestured at a permanently surprised looking tall one and said "Good thing you let the hippie do our negotiating for us." Good vibes. When the manager was done with, Mr. Waye and his drummer, who had teleported himself to this side of the hall, greetd the young American openers. They were called Buyer Beware. The dark eyes with grin conjured up a wispy blonde wife and a somewhow perfect looking blonde little girl. She could stay up long enough for the sound check. There was a relaxed looking black man in glasses and a polo shirt, short but fit. He was their drummer. Time to let the drummers sniff each other and understand that they could share the same equipment if and if and if. Also my bass player is out right now looking for a certain kind of routing switch but on the odd chance he doesn't stumble onto a top-of-the-line electronics store in this lovely part of town, any idea where ... Short fatso, who was wearing a baseball cap with bills in front *and* back, knew a lot about electronics and told a bit more than he needed to, but knew a store that would be open and gave very clear directions -- plus elaboration. "The city is basically two grids, one here," he indicated on the tiles with his disproportionate- ly large sneakers, "and another grid at about a thirty degree angle here. And then down in the angle is a big industrial park by the river, and ritzy suburbs in the hills and freeways all over," now pirouetting like the dancing hippos in Fantasia. "The collision of two small towns complicated by industry and a nation of automobile nuts." Places meeting other places. "I noticed the town squares. Yep, we were befuddled for about half an hour. Some of these Southern towns remind me of English villages, with the squares, only some- where in the middle of our town there'd be some huge piece of ancient stonework. Instead, here, you've got strips, sometimes incubating a shopping center -- people always say 'Oh that's on the strip west of town.'" This last in a passable North Carolina accent. "You sound like you've lived here." The wispy wife of the dark-eyed grin. But not wispy when she talked. "Er, no. Er, I've spent time with people from your State." Oh lordy lord I done did my time. "You have a sweet little girl. I've got one of those too." About three times the age. And was accompanied by a broken heart. But I've eliminated the broken heart and retained the daughter. Sound check. Buyer Beware were not half bad. Bluesy, with some very rough, interesting edges. A touch of Captain Beefheart's outer space swamp in Fatso's voice. A touch of Gram Parsons' country sorrow in Dark-Eyed Grin. More of him than Fatso, which was just as well. And on the sidelines, the little girl, loving it, just going crazy. She did a five-year-old's wacky dance, jumping up and coming down with her feet planted wide apart, in very different places each time. Like Wispy Wife, she was fire and mercury when she moved, but soft and hazy when still between jumps. *Little lamb, who made thee? Dost thou know who made thee?* More sound check. The little girl went home with the baby sitter and the doors opened. Mr. Clark Waye was able to go to the bar for a drink, wander about, chat with the other musicians and eat dinner completely unrecognized. As the place filled up, Buyer Beware got lots of attention. Young men clustered around Fatso and laughed, young women hung on Dark-Eyed Grin. But despite an intelligent young local gent with an "Intel Inside" tattoo on his temple, Clark Waye was steadfast in his resolve to keep things uncomplicated. He watched Buyer Beware from the side, approvingly. This was a do-it-yourself, no-frills tour, but certainly there were some good shows. Then, more than halfway through, something went very wrong for the band on stage. It was like the sound went bad. Only it wasn't the sound, it was the people. They had all gone sour. Particularly Dark-Eyed Grin, he was pale and screwing up all over the place. * * * "Well, you've sent your pretty young thing home and now you're dancing up a storm." "Oh, and I'm so glad we got a baby sitter because I'm in love with you." Her knee touching his thigh. "I'm afraid I've forgotten your name." "It's just Melly." "Your husband's," slight pause, "band did a stunning job of warming things up for us." Her eyes were red. Tears? Dark-Eyed Grin, his surprise and upset on stage, like he'd heard bad news. Maybe he'd heard that she'd heard bad news. "You know I'm in an open marriage." I'm in a ... You're in it, baby. We're all in something. "And this has just come as a surprise to you, eh?" She was silent for a minute as she took in what he'd figured out. That she'd seen or been told or felt the vibrations of something her old man did. Something like that. Madam, my powers of deduction are supernatural. "That sucks, Melly. Totally sucks. Now I've got to go on stage and do my thing. Excuse me." * * * Bass to the left, me to the right, drummer in the middle, let's go. "Hello, we're the Jefferson Airplane," slight laughter, "and this is going to be psychobable in A minor." But it's going to be *pretty* psychobable in A minor. Don't want to start out of the gate too fast and compete with a good opening band. Build in our own time. There's a moon out there, and beyond the moon are planets and galaxies and childhood memories of sailing boats on the Round Pond. Let them hear my guitar. Let *me* hear my guitar. "More monitor please." There was now a lot of the crowd who could recognize Clark Waye, were here to see him, had seen him before. "Alright, this next song is for someone I used to know who was from North Carolina." Lemme hear those choirboy backup vocals. (Ba-by, not now) One hundred chimes upon the bells of nothing tell us that it's time to begin (Ba-by, not now) I've got a map but I can't read it except by the light from your skin (Ba-by, not now) I've got some wings and you've got some tentacles but things aren't evenly matched (Ba-by, not now) you broke your promise when the moon went down and that's when my fears hatched (Ba-by, not now) you tell me Baby come back when the time is right not today and -- and-oh-no-not-tonight (Ba-by not now) For a dance song it had some weird rhythms, but the room was hopping. Thanks again, Dark-Eyed Grin and company. Dark-Eyed Grin was not with his Company, but Melly was. Fatso was away too, oh, over there, by himself at the bar. Not enjoying. Lemme hear those choirboy backup vocals! (Ba-by, not now) When, Baby, when? (Ba-by, now now) Oh, I fe-ee-el like I'm dying (Ba-by, not now) I feel, oh god baby I feel like I'm dying "There, that was our attempt to be Steve Marriott and the Small Faces. If you're older and have heard of them. Now we'll go back to being ourselves, or something like. No, wait, now we're going to become the Rolling Stones." General laughter. "Are any of you planning to see The Rolling Stones on this next tour they've announced? Excellent! OK, now all of you copyright attorneys, patent attorneys, libel and slander attorneys, folks who sue people for pretending to be something else, please take note. One, two, three!" This was sort of like punk rock, and Fatso and Dark-Eyed Grin, who had rematerialised, were taking the music in its original spirit, rolling around on the floor, kicking and punching and knocking over chairs, but really not getting as much attention as you'd think. chorus! We're the Rolling Stones! we're the Rolling Stones! The Rolling Stones are a fearsome band, we like them very much we also like ourselves as well, but we're a little out of touch! - --- Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #379 ********************************