From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #357 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 5 2002 Volume 11 : Number 357 Today's Subjects: ----------------- image [Jim Davies ] Re: Hi All! [gSs ] Bitstream Capture with Zinf (0% RH, 0% SB, 33% DID) [Perry Amberson ] Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) [Ken Weingold ] Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Bitstream Capture with Zinf (0% RH, 0% SB, 33% DID) [dances with virg] Fwd: Winchester review [dances with virgos ] Re: Hi All! [Michael R Godwin ] rushless [drew ] Clean, Baby Song... ["Rex.Broome" ] TNT? Are you kidding? ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: TNT? Are you kidding? [Ken Weingold ] Hi All!2 ["Greta Swann" ] Re: Hi All! [Tom Clark ] Re: Hi All! [Ken Weingold ] Re: Hi All! ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" ] Hi all! (slight return) [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] SBs [Eb ] Re: Hi All!2 [Ken Ostrander ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:23:26 GMT From: Jim Davies Subject: image As usual, I didn't take any sensible pictures, but there are a couple of snaps of Nick at www.wholeworldwindow.com/0211sanfrancisco Viv, Jeme, and Eddie appeared earlier in the year, but I forgot to tell them - not that they are vain enough to care - at www.wholeworldwindow.com/0204seattle x Jim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 07:57:05 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Hi All! On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 rosso@videotron.ca wrote: > > What's this, eh? Obsfucated Perl? > > Man! If that's not a band name yet, I *want* it! damn, i tried to steal it but nobody else in the band got excited. i guess we'll remain, a soft pursuit. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 06:19:42 -0800 (PST) From: Perry Amberson Subject: Bitstream Capture with Zinf (0% RH, 0% SB, 33% DID) Hi, I've been trying to capture some of the recent Soft Boys radio appearances with Zinf, but can't figure out how to do it. I end up "taping" the streaming audio with Cool Edit, then deleting my file when one of you more capture-savvy folks uploads the whole program in easily digestable, never-converted-to-analog chunks. Anyone interested in enlightening me? Perry PS: I listed 77 albums, yet I still managed to leave out 'The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society' and 'Jerry Lee Lewis Live at the Star Club.' Serves me right for trying to make a list like that at work without my collection staring me in the face. HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:36:48 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > 5. Reset certain privileges. Note: This is an advanced step: > > a. Start up in Single-User Mode (press and hold > the Command-S key combination during startup until white text appears). > b. When the command line appears, type: fsck -y > c. Press Return. > d. Type: mount -uw / > e. Press Return. > f. Type: chmod 1775 / > g. Press Return. > h. Type: reboot > i. Press Return. Ummm.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but fsck doesn't touch permissions. Or did Apple modify it to do that? If you boot to the OS X CD, you can open Disk Utility from there and fix permissions, if that is indeed the problem. Never hurts anyway, I suppose, except for people like me who do change default permissions for their own use. So Mike, does OS X boot fine? If so, why can't you just do what Apple said about the Fonts folder from OS X? Otherwise, boot into single user mode as Sebastian said, and type the following (I never did it, but in theory it should work): mv /System\ Folder/Fonts / Then type 'reboot' or 'shutdown -r now' or ctrl-d or something like that. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:40:56 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, Ken Weingold wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > b. When the command line appears, type: fsck -y > > c. Press Return. > > d. Type: mount -uw / > > e. Press Return. > > f. Type: chmod 1775 / > > g. Press Return. > > h. Type: reboot > > i. Press Return. > > Ummm.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but fsck doesn't touch permissions. > Or did Apple modify it to do that? If you boot to the OS X CD, you > can open Disk Utility from there and fix permissions, if that is > indeed the problem. Never hurts anyway, I suppose, except for people > like me who do change default permissions for their own use. Okay, I need to read more carefully. Didn't see the chmod. :) Sorry, Sebastian. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 15:45:21 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) - --On Tuesday, November 05, 2002 09:36:48 -0500 Ken Weingold wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> 5. Reset certain privileges. Note: This is an advanced step: >> >> a. Start up in Single-User Mode (press and hold >> the Command-S key combination during startup until white text appears). >> b. When the command line appears, type: fsck -y >> c. Press Return. >> d. Type: mount -uw / >> e. Press Return. >> f. Type: chmod 1775 / >> g. Press Return. >> h. Type: reboot >> i. Press Return. > > Ummm.... Correct me if I'm wrong, but fsck doesn't touch permissions. It sure doesn't. That's just a safety measure. The important part is the chmod command. > If you boot to the OS X CD, you > can open Disk Utility from there and fix permissions, if that is > indeed the problem. Good point! > So Mike, does OS X boot fine? If so, why can't you just do what Apple > said about the Fonts folder from OS X? Otherwise, boot into single > user mode as Sebastian said, and type the following (I never did it, > but in theory it should work): > > mv /System\ Folder/Fonts / This assumes that both OSes live on the same partition ... If they don't it'd have to be something like: mv "/Volumes/INSERT_YOUR_OS9_VOLUMENAME_HERE/System Folder/Fonts" / Cheers, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:36:35 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Sick but still Soft in LA when we last left our heroes, dances with virgos exclaimed: >fortunately, the rebroadcast on kcrwmusic is sounding really good. i >should have mp3s from this ready by tomorrow morning sometime. finally looking at the mp3 capture from last night. something blipped during "unprotected love" so zinf restarted the stream and i ended up with two separate files. strangely, the first part of the capture is flagged as a mpeg 1.0 layer 1 (32kbit, 48khz) and the second part as mpeg 2.0 layer 2 (144kbit16khz). in both cases, when winamp plays the files, it thinks they are 128kbit 44khz. so, i guess the header is wrong. unfortunately, the tool i use to chop up mp3s (mp3 trackmaker) barfs on the files because it doesn't think the files are mpeg 1.0 layer 3. anyone know how to repair the header so the files are id'ed correctly? of course, if someone else got a clean capture of the kcrw appearance and wants to donate the mp3 to fegmania.org, i'd be happy to save myself the work and just host them. if you are that person, drop me a line. tom? rex? woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:38:41 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Bitstream Capture with Zinf (0% RH, 0% SB, 33% DID) when we last left our heroes, Perry Amberson exclaimed: >I've been trying to capture some of the recent Soft >Boys radio appearances with Zinf, but can't figure out >how to do it. all i do is go into zinf's options, pick the streaming tab, check the "save stream" box and select a directory to put the saved stream in. the next time you start listening to a stream, zinf should start saving the data in that directory in addition to playing it back. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:33:40 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Fwd: Winchester review this is going up on fegmania.org shortly... >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 23:51:14 +0000 >To: woj@fegmania.org >From: Oliver Gray >Subject: review > >Hello there, >I did this for the local paper after the Winchester show, but I think the >visitors to your site might enjoy it. >Hope so! > >Oliver > >Soft Bulletin >I wake up a worried man. I'm worrying about everything, but about one >thing more than others, namely: Will the venue be too full and will the >customers complain? No, hang on, there's a bigger worry than that: What if >the Soft Boys don't turn up? There's no reason even to consider this >eventuality, but people are travelling from all over the UK for this >"secret" warm-up show and won't like it if they're disappointed. >Now, have I thought of everything? That thing with the bass amp last night >was extraordinary. My friend Phil has agreed to lend us his amp, which >previously belonged to the Joe Jackson Band. We have to load it onto a >straw-covered trailer in the pouring rain in the car park of Fleming Park >Leisure Centre. Why? No idea. The speaker is the size of the Empire State >Building, housed in a flight case so gigantic that it barely scrapes >through the Railway's door. >The Soft Boys haven't played in Winchester since 1978 and I'm so excited. >They've re-formed and have made a great new album. Prior to their American >tour, they need a warm-up show and somehow or other I've booked them for >this tiny venue. The interest is high but the organisation is demanding. >We normally put on much "smaller" bands and it's all done on a handshake, >but here there is a contract involved and I have to be conscientious and >responsible. >This is my first experience of purchasing a "rider" and it entails >spending over two hours in Sainsburys. It's surprising how confusing your >local supermarket becomes when you're buying unfamiliar things. There's a >whopping great list of items such as soya milk, honey, olives and pitta >bread, not to mention copious amounts of alcohol, all specific brands. At >one stage, I'm fretting about whether I'll get into trouble for >substituting Sainsbury's own-brand vodka for the specified Smirnoff. Like >I say, I'm a worrier. >The contract is full of all sorts of specific demands that we can't >possibly fulfil. I have penned an addendum and made the agent promise to >pass on all the details to the band, so they know what to expect. I've >also Emailed a reminder with a request to pass it on to the band members. >Principal among these is the vital information that there is no dressing room. >So Robyn Hitchcock arrives and his very first words are, "Hello, where's >the dressing room?" He looks genuinely hunted when I say there isn't one. >"I have to have somewhere to hide away. If I stay in the pub I'll be >hassled." It's true that he has a disturbingly large number of obsessive >fans, some of whom (inexplicably, really) are actually quite unruly. So I >have a brainwave and ask my friend Hector, who lives just down the road, >if they can use his house as a dressing room. "I'll have to tidy up >first", he replies. What a hero. >They sound check for ever (part of the point of a warm-up show). Ben, the >engineer at the Railway, displays the patience of Job as he assists the >meticulously professional sound man the Soft Boys have brought with them. >And then, would you believe it, apart from the drummer, they don't use the >dressing room at all. Instead, they watch football in the front bar while >Robyn disappears into town. He spent his teens in Winchester and wants to >explore (not to mention being tempted by the Gurkha Chef). >Support artist Mark Andrews is performing solo for the first time in his >life and is absolutely terrified. The audience receives his set of >carefully-chosen covers warmly, but before long I'm worrying again. I've >impressed on the Soft Boys that they MUST be on stage at 9.30, but Robyn >has disappeared. It appears that he's managed to get himself lost and the >rest of the band, while mildly concerned, can do no more than shrug their >shoulders as if to say, yup, that's Robyn. As the clock ticks ever onward >and the crowd starts to become restless, I'm almost on the verge of panic. >It's nearly ten when I run down to Hector's house, where Robyn has somehow >gained admission and is sitting in the kitchen. "Sorry, I haven't got a >watch", he says. >Still, I've had a beer by now and have decided that at least it's another >good Hitchcock story. A lifelong ambition is fulfilled as I push my way >through the crowd, making way for the star. He towers above me, which >rather spoils the effect. >All the effort has been worthwhile. The sound is perfect, the band >performs sublimely, but still it's impossible to relax. There are a couple >of annoying talkers in the audience, one of whom has sneaked in without >paying. I have to tell them to shut up, and you never know how people are >going to react. Worse, at the back of the hall is a group of extremely >drunk blokes. Who knows why they follow Robyn Hitchcock, merely to shout >out inappropriate remarks and stagger around, but they do. No wonder he's >desperate to have a dressing room. I am nice to these guys, who are >actually harmless music-lovers with a strange way of showing it. My >magnificent wife, who has been acting as bouncer, charms them and keeps >them relatively quiet. "I love you, door lady", announces one. "Is that >your wife? Bloody hell", gasps another. >The gig is over. I've had to interrupt the band in mid-flow because >there's a strict 11 pm curfew. Immediately, Robyn is at my shoulder. "I >need protection, get me out of here." I'm beginning to enjoy my new-found >"minder" role, so it's all back to Hector's house. It's all worked out, >but one thing has been missing: enjoying the show. So, the next evening, I >travel up to London to enjoy the Soft Boys as an untroubled audience >member. There they are, playing to a large audience in a big venue. I like >to think that the warm-up show has helped them. But, on the train back, >I'm still worrying: >What the hell are we going to do with that whopping great bass amp, still >cluttering up the Railway's back room? > >Oliver Gray > >Revilo / The Gray Family: PO Box 71, Winchester SO21 1ZE. Phone: 01962-714520 >Please note new web addresses: >New REVILO website: http://www.revilolang.com >Oliver's site: http://www.olivergray.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 17:07:21 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Hi All! On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Michael Wells wrote: Michael, what's it like there in the future? Are there any good horses I should back between 5th and 18th Nov? - - Mike Godwin n.p. Gene Vincent "She she she little Sheila" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:21:49 -0800 From: drew Subject: rushless It seems to be my way to contradict. I apologize in advance. > From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > > The Church, "The blurred crusade" I don't like any of those supposedly amazing Church singles prior to _Heyday_ or so, and the Church I like didn't develop fully until _Priest=Aura_. Go figure. > From: Ken Weingold > if I were to recommend one album, it would probably be New > Day Rising. That's the one I bought and had to sell it. Maybe it's just that Husker Du isn't for me, but I do like "Ice Cold Ice" a lot (thanks to a certain mix tape) and I've been known to enjoy Bob Mould solo. > From: "R. Edward Poole" > 2. "So, independent film is just a bunch of shaky hand-held camera > work,documenting nasty stuff like incest and torture, right?" (well, > not ONLY!) > > - -- "Rushmore," dir. Wes Anderson (1998). essentially perfect film. > funny, smart, killer soundtrack. go here: > http://us.imdb.com/Title?0128445 Yeah, sometimes independent film is yet another creepy stalker "romantic comedy" dressed up in pretentious "quirky" clothing. If _Rushmore_ is "essentially perfect" give me massively flawed every time. _The Royal Tenenbaums_ was a little more bearable but no less shallow and contrived when you scratch the surface. What both films do have going for them are lovely visuals (art, costumes, photography) and top-notch casting and performances. As scripts, though, I thought they left a lot to be desired. > From: "matt sewell" > > Tell me this is Eddie Tews in disguise... I was pretty sure it was _someone_ in disguise, myself. Fun discussion resulted, though, so all's well that ends well. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 09:38:59 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Clean, Baby Song... James: >>Anything by the Clean (wait a few weeeks and there will be a compilation of >>their back catalogue coming out) Really? That's good news for the old folks on the list, too... ________________________ >> Sans Baby Song, of course... But that record would sound really weird without it. Maybe I've listened to it too many times? You gotta forgive them, considering that they were slamming out LP's twice a year or in double-doses during that period... and only one "Baby Song". _____________________ One presumes Greta has run screaming from the list by now, but I liked Ed's non-musical list of coolness. But nobody covered literature; this list is a pretty good book club in its own right. Great show last night... review/comments later... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 10:06:38 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: TNT? Are you kidding? > From: Ken Weingold > Subject: Re: Hi All! > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, Michael Wells wrote: > > AC DC - Highway to Hell > > Ack. Are you kidding? TNT. Beginning to end pure energy. Highway > To Hell as an album just doesn't do it for me. Sorry, but I'm gonna have to go with "Let There Be Rock" on this one. There is no better heavy metal pummelling. It starts with Mal's dirty, raspy, screeching guitar in "Go Down" and ends with "Problem Child." And just when you think they'd get tired out at the end of side one, they assault us with the title cut. And then side two starts with "Overdose," which is just plain mean. It's a loud, ugly, noisy, drunk, mean record, and I like it. The Australian release of the LP substitutes "Crabsody in Blue" for "Overdose" which I think lessens the impact of the music order. But it does sound slightly better. . HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 13:29:39 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: TNT? Are you kidding? On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, Eugene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > Sorry, but I'm gonna have to go with "Let There Be Rock" on this one. There is > no better heavy metal pummelling. It starts with Mal's dirty, raspy, screeching > guitar in "Go Down" and ends with "Problem Child." And just when you think > they'd get tired out at the end of side one, they assault us with the title > cut. And then side two starts with "Overdose," which is just plain mean. It's > a loud, ugly, noisy, drunk, mean record, and I like it. AC/DC drunk? Noooo. ;-) As Malcolm put it in an interview when asked why he never plays lead guitar, "Because it would intefere with my drinking." But I'll admit that I don't have Let There Be Rock. What is the US equiv of TNT, Gene? My TNT is Australian. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:33:34 -0500 From: "Greta Swann" Subject: Hi All!2 You all are so fantastic. I don't know what to say, but I'll say it anyway, LOL. Like, I can't believe cool people like you will tell me what the really cool stuff is you listen to . Its like you are all cool dudes but don't care that I'm not cool yet. THATS SO TOTALLY COOLIO! The cool kids at school are all snotty and laugh at my hair and stuff, and wouldn't talk to me because I don't own enough Alien Ant Farm. Now I can show them! I LOVE you guys. You're like so cooler than cool. I've never heard of most of the people you're talking about except for David Bowie. Brian has some of his stuff but says I wouldn't get it. HAH! He asked me to come over and listen to Creed but I told him I have so much better things to do now. Besides, one of his friends, WHOSE A SENIOR wants me to hang out with him Friday night. Like Dylan and the Beatles my parents listen to so I'll totally pass on them, but I'm totally charged to find out more about some of the other stuff. A lot of websites have like a few free downloads so that way I can listen to cool stuff. And maybe Ill tell Brian about them. IF HE'S NICE, LOL xs & ()s (kissies and huggies) Peace out, Greta, its like a totally cooler name than Gretchen. And I am NOT a boy in disguise. Whoever you are Matt, you are a MEANIE! Care2 make the world greener! Keep Air Smoke Free - Deadline: Nov 5th http://www.care2.com/go/z/cleanair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 11:54:46 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Hi All! on 11/5/02 1:45 AM, matt sewell at matt_sewell@hotmail.com wrote: > Tell me this is Eddie Tews in disguise... My money's on Quail... - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 15:09:33 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Hi All! On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > on 11/5/02 1:45 AM, matt sewell at matt_sewell@hotmail.com wrote: > > > Tell me this is Eddie Tews in disguise... > > My money's on Quail... Maybe it's Robyn... :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 12:51:59 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Hi All! What a total pain that Prontomail doesn't put Originating IP in their headers. At 11:54 AM -0800 11/5/02, Tom Clark spake thus: >on 11/5/02 1:45 AM, matt sewell at matt_sewell@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Tell me this is Eddie Tews in disguise... > >My money's on Quail... > >-tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 20:59:48 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Jumping the Hi All Ken: >one relates to the fonz loosing it whilst jumping a shark on >waterskiis. >fonzy got away with his life but the shark took his >coolness to the land >of underwater moonlight. >another has to do with robyn meeting a homeless syd barrett in the >late >sixty's and having the coolness transferred through a farcical >aquatic >ceremony. the real question is how can they maintain their cool when >they've got >the hots? Now I see it -- the Fonz on waterskis jumping Syd Barret in an octopus suit. Hey, is there a porn movie there? Bad Ken. Good bad Ken:-) - ------------ Welcome Greta. Its good to hear another female voice. Have you considered The Goo Goo Dolls? They're a definite step up from Brittany. I probobly should not be polled on cool music, cause Im definatly more in the high geek section than the cool circle. In fact, my geek theory is that cool was invented by geeks for protection. Dig much under any epitome of cool and Ill wager you come up with a geeky freak or a freaky geek  or a poser. Your choice. This may actually tie in with Robyn's remark from one of the interviews or show reports -- that most songs are about the singer's prowness at love or protection. Cool makes great protection. Since Ive seen recs for Nick Drake's "Five Leaves Layter" and "Pink Moon," Ive got to stand up for "Bryter Layter." It was the first one I owned, it may be the most accessible one, and its still my sentimental favorite. Kay, who would place her bet on Eb or reality _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:07:47 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Hi all! (slight return) >>I know that as the list's >>resident antipodean I'm partisan (I know quite a few of these folk >>personally, and find it hard to resist plugging New Zealand music) > >Hey, man, I included Alastair Galbraith first thing! In fact, maybe you can >say which other of his albums are worth hearing - to me it seems like some >of them are delightfully close to being just noise, while some are just >noise. hm. I missed that - which one did you recommend? "Seely Girn" is, IMHO, his best, but almost impossible to get hold of. >Mirror Bamboo Digital Pipe Organ Wasn't someone looking for band names a while back? >for the Eno (nobody mentioned Eno yet, did they?). I was the second to do so, I think. Oh, and I forgot to add Hunters & Collectors "Human Frailty" to the list. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:04:56 -0700 From: Eb Subject: SBs Saw the Soft Boys show at Hollywood's House of Blues, last night.... I was in a pretty grim mood to see *any* show, because yesterday afternoon, I had to put my longtime-companion dog to sleep. Not a happy day. Nor this one, for that matter. The show cheered me up a bit...I don't have too much to say, otherwise. I thought the lads performed the songs very well with plenty of spark, except for "Queen of Eyes." Seems like this one let me down in the previous Knitting Factory concert, too. Just doesn't seem wound tight enough in the current reading...not enough whirling momentum to attain that "Perfect Pop Song" status. I was also disappointed not to hear "Vegetable Man" as an encore, which was doubly frustrating because the song was listed on the sound guy's set list! That's life. I *might* be going to the Amoeba Records show (or even Largo), tonight...maybe they'll sing it there. My plans depend somewhat on what's up with Eyes Adrift, who's playing locally tonight as well. I can't provide a SBs setlist, but I'm sure someone else will. (Since I only get the list's digest version, maybe someone already has.) Three songs from Side 3 ("Narcissus," "Om," "Disconnection"), five (?) from Nextdoorland (I liked "Unprotected Love" the best), five (?) from Underwater Moonlight. "Chinese Bones." "When I Was a Kid." One song was billed as "new." "Stuck Inside of Mobile" was amongst the encores. Nothing from A Can of Bees, I don't think? Especially enjoyed "The Man With a Lightbulb Head," though I can't even remember which album contains this at the moment. (I'll look it up...don't bother telling me.) Does the introduction to "Pulse of My Heart" remind anyone else a lot of the introduction to the Eurythmics' "Would I Lie to You"? Hitchcock wore an unusually stylish, burnt-orange-print shirt for most of the show, but before the encore, he switched to a more typical black-with-white-polka-dots motif. A grungified Midge Ure opened with an acoustic set, looking more like a member of the Minutemen than Ultravox. It was...OK. Note to Ure: Trying to play "Vienna" as a solo acoustic tune just...does...not...work. Later, someone in the crowd mistook Jason Thornton for a post-performance Ure, which delighted JT no end. The notorious "Lawndart" and I talked to Matthew Seligman for awhile upstairs, after the show. That was fun. We were up on the private third floor -- wow, the decor of the bar up there is absolutely gorgeous...part Camelot, part King Tut -- but no notable namedrop-faces were around. Matthew claimed that the band Free was his impetus for taking up the bass, which I thought was an interesting revelation. Lawndart and Seligman were bonding over shared hard-rock interests, and I was relieved that Lawndart found a more receptive audience than me. ;) Matthew is thrilled about his upcoming Bass Player feature, btw. Bought Side 3 at the show...haven't played it yet. I was disappointed Robyn Sings wasn't on sale, because I had been planning to buy that too. Neither was Underwater Moonlight, for that matter...c'mon boys, push those units! This report should have more vim and vigor than it does, but between doggyless solitude and an all-day headache, I'm not feeling real talkative. This rocks my world: http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/exclusives/record_collection/pop_up_areas/daves_archive_moog.shtml Eb, hearing the drummer strike the sky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 17:15:04 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Hi All!2 i believe it's real. >Its like you are all cool dudes but don't >care that I'm not cool yet. THATS SO TOTALLY COOLIO! The cool kids >at school are all snotty and laugh at my hair and stuff, >and wouldn't talk to me because I don't own enough Alien Ant Farm. >Now I can show them! the only alien ant farm i own i downloaded from morpheus. it didn't make me want to buy an album, though their version of michael jackson's 'smooth criminal' is pretty funny. just remember that the cool kids are the ones that are cool. snotty people don't qualify. ignore them if you can. check out 'heathers' and 'pump up the volume' on video; but please don't shoot anybody! if you want to shoot someone, watch 'bowling for columbine' first. >I've never heard of most of the people you're talking about >except for David Bowie. Brian has some of his stuff but >says I wouldn't get it. HAH! He asked me to come over and >listen to Creed but I told him I have so much better things >to do now. Besides, one of his friends, WHOSE A SENIOR >wants me to hang out with him Friday night. sometimes upper classmen are cool. sometimes they just wanna get laid. jeez! i sound like a parent. get your hands on some bowie! or better yet, make sure this senior has some. for some reason i think of that guy in 'gas food lodging' who worships olivia newton john when i picture your man brian. >Like Dylan and the Beatles my parents listen to so I'll >totally pass on them, but I'm totally charged to find out >more about some of the other stuff just because your parents listen to the beatles and dylan doesn't mean that they suck. i assure you that they're very cool. you'll get into them someday. >xs & ()s (kissies and huggies) chocolate and diapers? sorry. >And I am NOT a boy in disguise. Whoever you are Matt, you >are a MEANIE! hoo boy! off come the gloves. ken "pepperland is a tickle of joy on the blue belly of the universe" the kenster np standing still in the usa the damn personals ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #357 ********************************