From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #356 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, November 5 2002 Volume 11 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- KCRW archives ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Hi All! [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] how to cope [drew ] Re: Hi All! ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Hi All! ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Hi All! [Ken Weingold ] Re: Hi All! ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" ] Re: Hi All! [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Hi All! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: Hi All! ["FS Thomas" ] Re: Hi All! [Ken Weingold ] Re: Hi All! ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Hi All! [Ken Weingold ] Re: Sick but still Soft in LA [dances with virgos ] Re: Hi All! [rosso@videotron.ca] More Maxwell's merriment! ["Maximilian Lang" ] There's more to cool than music (re: Hi All!) ["R. Edward Poole" ] Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Hi All! ["matt sewell" ] fanx [Jim Davies ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 16:59:36 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: KCRW archives woj: >>morning becomes eclectic is rebroadcast on kcrwmusic >> url:http://kcrwmusic.com/ > at 4:15pm pacific, >>so there is a second chance to hear it if you missed it. It'll be archived in pertuity thereafter, along with many other Robyn/SB's sessions. Not time to post my "Guidance for Greta"... off to give it to the Soft Boys! - -Rex PS-- "If You Know Time" is pretty damned fantastic, I gotta say. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 14:29:03 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Hi All! welcome Greta! It's good to see (I'm guessing) a few new younger list members! Not sure if anyone else has added the following albums. I know the rest of the list is expecting this from me, but I'd recommend hunting out many of the bands originally on the Flying Nun label. I know that as the list's resident antipodean I'm partisan (I know quite a few of these folk personally, and find it hard to resist plugging New Zealand music), but I'm sure much of the list would afgree that the following are definitely worth hunting for: The Chills, "Submarine Bells" Anything by the Clean (wait a few weeeks and there will be a compilation of their back catalogue coming out) The Verlaines, "Way out where" The Bats, "Daddy's Highway" David Kilgour "David Kilgour and the Heavy Eights" The 3Ds, "Hellzapoppin'" Straitjacket Fits, "Hail" Chris Knox, "Beat" I'd also add the following non-NZ music: Husker Du, "Candy Apple Grey" Rain Parade, "Emergency third rail power trip" XTC, "English settlement" Brian Eno, "Before and after science" The Byrds, "Notorious Byrd Brothers" Beck, "Odelay" John Cale, "Paris 1919" Velvet Underground, "The Velvet Underground and Nico" Talking heads, "Remain in light" Nick Drake, "Way to blue" Elvis Costello, "This year's model" PJ Harvey, "To bring you my love" The Triffids, "Born Sandy Devotional" The Church, "The blurred crusade" Billy Bragg, "Don't try this at home" King Crimson, "Thrak" plus a search through the best of British bands from the 60s - the Beatles (of course!), the Kinks, and the Who in particular. You won't like all of this lot probably, but there will be a LOT of stuff that you probably will like. And it's definitely a good place to start hunting. Kewn, above a stylishly arrayed list of albums, posited: >god forbid i end up on a desert island with no electricity; because then >these great albums would only be good for playing frisbie, shaving, or >signaling passing ships. is it true that george washington carver found a >way to play vinyl records using a peanut? No. You're getting confused with the story of how George Washington cut down a cherry tree with a peanut. There is, however, a way of playing CDs by focussing the rays of the sun on the discs with a magnifying glass. Unfortunately, though you can play CDs that way, you can't actually hear the music, as there is no way to attach an amplifier to the system. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 17:34:03 -0800 From: drew Subject: how to cope >From: > >"Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" wrote: > > > > "Autogeddon" by Julian Cope > >not his best, and rather depressing. "20 Mothers" is much more accessible. I listened to 20 Mothers once and have never pulled it out again. If you want accessible, pure pop hedonism doesn't get any better than _Saint Julian_. I have to admit I also like _Peggy Suicide_ a lot. Those two albums are perhaps not as "cool" as the others, though. Desert island discs. Very difficult topic. My problem is that selecting artists is very easy but selecting individual albums is hard. Also I reserve the right to lump bands and solo artists together with impunity. Mine would therefore be: Tori Amos The Auteurs/Black Box Recorder The Autumns Kate Bush The Cure Robyn Hitchcock/& the Egyptians/The Soft Boys Aimee Mann Morrissey/The Smiths Siouxsie and the Banshees Suede And I would have to sneak along the Bangles' Different Light for nostalgia reasons, or better yet a custom mix of Different Light and All Over the Place. What's funny is that this doesn't really reflect critical judgements or even listening habits (I've run Kate Bush's catalog into the ground, for example) so much as the specific feeling of comfort each of these bands/artists gives me. There are other artists I listen to more, and in some cases admire more, but these are the ones that would make a desert island bearable. So it's a very personal list. On the subject of meeting musicians: it was a different story when I DJed at WRUR and my girlfriend was Music Director. Interviews and such are still a little weird, but they feel more conversational and less corny. I met Geneva, Bis, and Jill Sobule this way, as well as the one people are actually impressed by, David Byrne. It's nice meeting lesser-known bands as well, especially when they are extremely cute; Splashdown were really sweet and the Autumns spent the night in my apartment. I'm still kicking myself for going to bed early that night; I barely knew their music at the time. Oh well. - - Drew ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:47:34 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Hi All! >From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" >Subject: Re: Hi All! > >"Sympathy For The Devil"and "Opus Dei" by Laibach (scare your parents with >this one!) It's more fun to scare fans of Rammstein with those records. No Laibach, no Rammstein, if you ask me. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 19:52:50 -0600 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Hi All! >From: "Greta Swann" >Subject: Hi All! > >Hi All! Well, hello there Greta. Welcome! >You must all be really cool to like cult stuff like this so I bet I >can learn about all sorts of new cool stuff here. Oh, yeah, I forgot. We are a cult, right? So where's my free haircut? >What other stuff is there out there that the Brittanys at school >wouldn't know fuck- >all about? I betcha Brian has never heard of Tintern Abbey. >Anyway, I have a newbie question. How did the Soft Boys get >so cool? Ours is not to reason why. Ours is just to buy, buy, buy! >xs + ()s What's this, eh? Obsfucated Perl? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:59:25 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Hi All! On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, James Dignan wrote: > > Husker Du, "Candy Apple Grey" Hmm, I'd hardly call that representative Husker Du. I love all their stuff, but if I were to recommend one album, it would probably be New Day Rising. Zen Arcade is always the "classic", but I find NDR more listenable/accessable. And Flip Your Whig is another big one for me. I think the Warner Bros. ones would be me last recommended. Well maybe after Land Speed Record. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 17:55:26 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Hi All! At 2:29 PM +1300 11/5/02, James Dignan spake thus: >I know that as the list's >resident antipodean I'm partisan (I know quite a few of these folk >personally, and find it hard to resist plugging New Zealand music) Hey, man, I included Alastair Galbraith first thing! In fact, maybe you can say which other of his albums are worth hearing - to me it seems like some of them are delightfully close to being just noise, while some are just noise. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:08:34 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Hi All! At 7:47 PM -0600 11/4/02, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. spake thus: >>From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" >>Subject: Re: Hi All! >> >>"Sympathy For The Devil"and "Opus Dei" by Laibach (scare your parents with >>this one!) > >It's more fun to scare fans of Rammstein with those records. No >Laibach, no Rammstein, if you ask me. Gretchen, are you learning an interesting lesson about asking a group of music enthusiasts for their opinion? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 18:16:25 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Hi All! GretA, sorry. M ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:17:05 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Hi All! At 7:47 PM -0600 11/4/02, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. spake thus: >>From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" >>Subject: Re: Hi All! >> >>"Sympathy For The Devil"and "Opus Dei" by Laibach (scare your parents with >>this one!) > >It's more fun to scare fans of Rammstein with those records. No >Laibach, no Rammstein, if you ask me. Let's add some Carl Orff and we'd be ready to overthrow a country! - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 20:18:24 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Hi All! Quoting James Dignan : > No. You're getting confused with the story of how George Washington cut > down a cherry tree with a peanut. There is, however, a way of playing CDs > by focussing the rays of the sun on the discs with a magnifying glass. > Unfortunately, though you can play CDs that way, you can't actually hear > the music, as there is no way to attach an amplifier to the system. It works best if you train an island monkey to spin the CDs at a steady rate on its fingers. (Fingers work best - although they're not necessarily where the monkeys most like to place the CDs.) Furthermore, if you set up an array of carefully calibrated mirrors on wires that rotate according to the angle the light reflects off the tiny ones and zeroes etched in the CD's surface, and then amplify the wind-motion of those rotating mirrors such that air is forced through a complex series of intricately carved bamboo pipes, you could almost sorta hear the CDs too - although as rendered on the famous Mirror Bamboo Digital Pipe Organ. What's that? CDs do not actually have tiny little ones and zeroes etched on them? Another theory shot to shit... Oh: I feel compelled to add the following bands to the list: The Wrens, the Rock*a*Teens, Wire, The Fall, the Loud Family and its predecessor Game Theory, Nothing Painted Blue and Franklin Bruno... ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: I feel that all movies should have things that happen in them :: --TV's Frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 21:33:14 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Hi All! Ken Weingold wrote: > > Let's add some Carl Orff and we'd be ready to overthrow a country! don't forget that without Carl Orff and His Method, there wouldn't be the sublime Langley School Music Project ... Stewart (who thinks that he's inhaled to many Ilfotec DD-X fumes lately... kof!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:42:24 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: RE: Hi All! Flip Your Wig. Consistent. Listenable. Beyond (some) belief. Sans Baby Song, of course... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Ken Weingold Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:59 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Hi All! On Tue, Nov 5, 2002, James Dignan wrote: > > Husker Du, "Candy Apple Grey" Hmm, I'd hardly call that representative Husker Du. I love all their stuff, but if I were to recommend one album, it would probably be New Day Rising. Zen Arcade is always the "classic", but I find NDR more listenable/accessable. And Flip Your Whig is another big one for me. I think the Warner Bros. ones would be me last recommended. Well maybe after Land Speed Record. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:48:50 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Hi All! On Mon, Nov 4, 2002, FS Thomas wrote: > Flip Your Wig. Wig. Sorry. Had Afghan Whigs in my head. > Consistent. Listenable. Beyond (some) belief. Yeah, wonderful album, beginning to end, except for... > Sans Baby Song, of course... Yeah. I think the only thing it serves is to make you appreciate Flexible Flyer all that much more. :) I think the story behind it was that Greg Norton wrote it for new newly born child at the time, right? But either way, I think they pulled a Lance Hahn. You don't need to press ever fucking thing you write onto vinyl. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:49:25 -0600 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Hi All! Perry: > If you like the Soft Boys, it is not inconceivable > that you may enjoy some of the following albums: It is not inconceivable that you would have to move to a larger island as well, what with all those discs. > KRAFTWERK Autobahn > PINK FLOYD The Piper at the Gates of Dawn > PUBLIC IMAGE LTD. Metal Box > THE VELVET UNDERGROUND White Light/White Heat OK, respect. Though if you're gonna do PIL I'd recommend "Album." James: > Nick Drake, "Way to blue" As always, James strikes a chord. Maybe "Five Leaves Left" for me but still kudos for calling out ND. Ken: > marquee moon - TELEVISION > disintegration - THE CURE > abbey road - THE BEATLES That whole list rocks, but that's a home run right there. I tend not to create these sorts of lists if only because I'm horrible at the whittling-down process; before long you're looking at most of my CD collection. I do know that if left only with the Szell/Cleveland Orchestra recording of Mozart's 40/41 Symphony I would be awfully happy. A few other select recommendations... HAWKWIND - Space Ritual RUSH - Hemispheres TRIUMPH - Allied Forces JUDAS PRIEST - British Steel TED NUGENT - Double Live Gonzo AC DC - Highway to Hell METALLICA - Ride the Lightning DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head METAL CHURCH - Metal Church* OZZY OSBOURNE - Blizzard of Ozz KING DIAMOND - The Dark Sides ACCEPT - Balls to the Wall IRON MAIDEN - Powerslave HEART - Dreamboat Annie Oh yeah, and SIR MIX-A-LOT - Mack Daddy Michael "baby's got ribs" Wells * a great starting point ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:58:34 -0500 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Hi All! On Tue, Nov 19, 2002, Michael Wells wrote: > AC DC - Highway to Hell Ack. Are you kidding? TNT. Beginning to end pure energy. Highway To Hell as an album just doesn't do it for me. > IRON MAIDEN - Powerslave Ack again. Great album, but can you really say it's better than Killers? Or Number of the Beast? Or Piece of Mind? I think all three are phenomenal albums, but I tend to be partial to Di'Anno Maiden over Dickinson. Same way I prefer (more strongly) Bon Scott over Brian Johnson. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:25:38 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Sick but still Soft in LA when we last left our heroes, Maximilian Lang exclaimed: >I have always found the G2 archive stream to be really good sounding. I >usually wait for that and record it from there. right, but the 128k mp3 stream, if it's working, sounds even better. fortunately, the rebroadcast on kcrwmusic is sounding really good. i should have mp3s from this ready by tomorrow morning sometime. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 23:41:16 +0000 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Hi All! On 4 Nov 2002 at 19:52, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > >xs + ()s > > What's this, eh? Obsfucated Perl? Man! If that's not a band name yet, I *want* it! As for band recs, how about a one-line description to help our new friend sort them out. I'll admit none of them are going to be on Britney's list of faves, but a few of them would send me for the Eno (nobody mentioned Eno yet, did they?). Eno: sometimes quirky but still poppy tunes, sometimes ambient, sometimes experimental electronic stuff. Intellectual stoner music? Also an antacid. We could play it this way: each feg gets no more than 3 recommendations. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 22:49:15 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: More Maxwell's merriment! More merriment @ Maxwell's and it's secular too! Luna will be playing Maxwell's on New Years Eve, $30.00 gets you a buffet(not Jimmy)a glass of what is most likely cheesy champagne and Luna live. Sounds like fun, no? Kathy and I are feverishly looking to book a hotel room, hopefully some Fegs can join in. Max _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 23:07:08 -0500 From: "R. Edward Poole" Subject: There's more to cool than music (re: Hi All!) On Monday, November 4, 2002, at 01:28 PM, Greta Swann wrote: > You must all be really cool to like > cult stuff like this so I bet I can learn about all > sorts of new cool stuff here. gracious me, flattery will get you everywhere around here (I for one will admit that I already was patting myself on the back in this fashion -- there's something about really, genuinely adoring something that only a tiny fraction of the universe has even heard of -- it's part "hey lookie what I found!" and part "I know a secret!" and part "if it appeals to everybody, it must be so bland as to be uninteresting.") There are, indeed, a whole lot of very knowledgeable people here, with widely varied tastes (although some overlap -- Robyn Hitchcock & the Soft Boys, obviously -- plus a few others that probably 75% of us agree on -- actually, I take that back: I don't think that 75% of this list agrees that it's Monday (hi James!). Anyway, since a lot of people have tackled the "what's cool in the music scene" question, I'll put in some plugs for my faves in other areas. 1. "Comics are just a bunch of overly testoteroned men in tights" (not true!) - -- The works of Daniel Clowes --> "Eightball," "Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron," "David Boring," "Ghost World" (now a semi-major motion picture starring Thora Birch & Steve Buscemi). Sometimes surreal, always graphically excellent (in a 50's retro kitchy midwestern americana sorta way). I can't describe his stuff, but it's amazing. Go here: http://www.fantagraphics.com/artist/clowes/clowes.html - -- "Maus," by Art Spiegelman. Perhaps the most "important" of the "serious" comics. As far as I know, the only comic book to win the Pulitzer Prize. A holocaust survivor's son tells the story of his jewish father's life in pre-WWII Poland, the coming of the Nazis, and survival in Auschwitz. More powerful than "Schindler's List" -- not for the faint of heart. Go here: http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/holocaust/spiegelman.html - -- "The Book of Leviathan," by Peter Blegvad: indescribable & indescribably wonderful. I could throw around words like existential, metaphysical, wise, funny, hilarious, absurd, dark... but that wouldn't really give you much to go on. just imagine a faceless baby & his toy bunny adrift in the cosmos -- and commenting on it. hmmm, that's not very good either. ooo, boy, this book is good. really. go here: http://www.leviathan.co.uk/ 2. "So, independent film is just a bunch of shaky hand-held camera work,documenting nasty stuff like incest and torture, right?" (well, not ONLY!) - -- "Rushmore," dir. Wes Anderson (1998). essentially perfect film. funny, smart, killer soundtrack. go here: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0128445 - -- "Brazil," dir. Terry Gilliam (1985). a classic. not really "independent," as it was financed by Universal, but the REAL film (as opposed to what Universal wanted to see) is definitely an independent work of Gilliam's. Go here: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0088846 and here: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0780022181/ qid=1036467295/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2234600-1026242?v=glance (for what the film SHOULD have been & now, thankfully, shall always be). - -- "Down by Law," dir. Jim Jarmusch. Gritty, bleak, B&W character study of quite a group of characters: (musician) Tom waits, (musician) John Lurie, and (freaky, funny, still a decade away from becoming Oscar-night clown in celebration of "Life is Beautiful"'s success) Roberto Begnini as Louisiana convicts on the lam. go here: http://us.imdb.com/Title?0090967 (also see: Jarmusch's "Stranger Than Paradise" and "Mystery Train." See "Night on Earth" -- but only if it's on cable.) 3. "The Internet is just a lotta porn porn porn, with a few neo nazis & shopping sites thrown in for good measure." (Mostly true.) Exceptions include: - -- The Onion (www.theonion.com) -- hardly breaking news here, but if you haven't read it (hard to avoid if you have email), it's only the best satirical current events mock newspaper on the web. hands down. the story that got me hooked: "Study Reveals: Babies Are Stupid." (note: my son was 18 months old when i first read this -- I'm not a monster.) go here: http://www.theonion.com/onion3119/stupidbabies.html - -- The Institute of Official Cheer (http://www.lileks.com/institute/instsplash/index.html) -- I cannot improve on the official description: "where old pop culture is subjected to our patented Re-Ironization Process, and converted into chipper, spiffy, feather-light postmodern commentary on commercial culture. Or, to put it another way: theres enough here to kill two, maybe three lunch hours." Funny stuff with disgusting 50's cookbooks, horrid '60's interior decorating, and much much more! Be sure to check out the bizarre art of Art Frahm. - -- Memepool (http://www.memepool.com/) -- daily links to the best (and worst) of the Web, in such categories as "culture," "sex," "humor," and "wackos." - -- Television Without Pity (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/) -- snide, snarky recaps of your favorite (and most despised) TV programming. Huzzah! Hope you enjoy your immersion in the wacky underground scenes, wherever you may venture. Just remember: if it's popular, it sucks. but, just because it's obscure, it isn't necessarily great. but there's at least a fighting chance. - -ed ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 21:55:23 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Swedene Subject: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) Hi All Apple heads! I decided to install OS X last evening and ran into an issue. As per the Apple page I have a damaged MAC OS 9 file. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106464#symp1 It says to start from your Mac OS 9 System Folder or a Mac OS 9 CD-ROM disc. Drag the Fonts folder in the Mac OS 9 System Folder (not the Mac OS X System folder) out of the System Folder into the root level of the hard disk, or to the desktop. Restart the computer from your Mac OS X volume. But damned if I know where my OS 9 disc is. Any suggestions or help? I have a blue screen with a spinning "rainbow-esque" icon on the screen and I do see a split second of my desktop before it goes all to blue. Any and all help is appreciated. Herbie np -> NOTHING, Mac down :( ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 10:27:44 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: OS X HELP (0% RH 0% SB) - --On Monday, November 04, 2002 21:55:23 -0800 Mike Swedene wrote: Hi Mike, > I decided to install OS X last evening good for you! > and ran into an > issue. As per the Apple page I have a damaged MAC OS > 9 file. > > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106464#symp1 I'm not so sure. I've had that problem myself and the permissions were messed up. If you can't find a boot CD at all I'd recommend going with step 5 ... 5. Reset certain privileges. Note: This is an advanced step: a. Start up in Single-User Mode (press and hold the Command-S key combination during startup until white text appears). b. When the command line appears, type: fsck -y c. Press Return. d. Type: mount -uw / e. Press Return. f. Type: chmod 1775 / g. Press Return. h. Type: reboot i. Press Return. > It says to start from your Mac OS 9 System Folder or a > Mac OS 9 CD-ROM disc. Drag the Fonts folder in the Mac > OS 9 System Folder (not the Mac OS X System folder) > out of the System Folder into the root level of the > hard disk, or to the desktop. Restart the computer > from your Mac OS X volume. > > But damned if I know where my OS 9 disc is. Any > suggestions or help? Well, depending on your Mac and your type of installation (same partition for both OSes or separate partitions) you could try booting with the option key pressed. YOu may be able to boot OS 9 that way. If that doesn't work I don't see any way around trying to find a bootable CD. It doesn't have to be OS 9, you know, it just needs to be one your Mac is able to boot from. Good luck, Sebastian - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:45:53 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Hi All! Tell me this is Eddie Tews in disguise... Do I win a fiver? Cheers Matt >From: "Greta Swann" >Reply-To: "Greta Swann" >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Hi All! >Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:28:58 -0500 > >Hi All! > >My name is Greta Swann and I'm new. My now ex-boyfriend >took me to see the Soft Boys in New York and I had a GREAT >time. They are a really cool band. The day after the >concert I realized the only reason I hung out with my >boyfriend was because he knew about cool stuff. But I >figured, hey, I can know about cool stuff too LOL. I don't >need to put up with him, and he can be REALLY aweful, just >because I like going into the city and seeing bands. So I >looked up Robyn and the Soft Boys on the Internet and found >this list. You must all be really cool to like >cult stuff like this so I bet I can learn about all >sorts of new cool stuff here. I already miss Brian's(that >was the jerk idiot's name)CDs. What other stuff is there >out there that the Brittanys at school wouldn't know fuck- >all about? I want to learn all the really cool stuff. I >want to learn stuff even Brian dosnt know about but that >people who are really cool know is really hot. > >Anyway, I have a newbie question. How did the Soft Boys get >so cool? > >xs + ()s > >Gretchen > > > > > > > > > >Care2 make the world greener! >Keep Air Smoke Free - Deadline: Nov 5th >http://www.care2.com/go/z/cleanair - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2002 09:53:57 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Hi All! As any fule kno, Copey's magnum opus is, without a shadow of a doubt, Jehovahkill... Of course, that's IMHO! Cheers Matt >From: >Reply-To: >To: >Subject: Re: Hi All! >Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2002 15:33:03 -0500 > >"Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" wrote: > > > > "Autogeddon" by Julian Cope > >not his best, and rather depressing. "20 Mothers" is much more accessible. > >welcome to the list. > >I'd add anything by The Apples in Stereo, Neutral Milk Hotel, or Of Montreal. > > Stewart - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 11:20:40 GMT From: Jim Davies Subject: fanx It is raining in England. Judging by the rusted cables on my bike, this isn't news. I've been back less than 24 hours, and I already have a cold. The blue sky over Seattle and San Francisco is nothing more than a screensaver now. Wonderful music(ians) apart, it was great to meet such lovely people out there on the West Coast. You know who you are. Particular thanks to: Viv, for all of Seattle; Nick, for his plans for food, and the lift out of there; Cynthia, for the taxi to the Haight. x Jim ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #356 ********************************