From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #348 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 30 2002 Volume 11 : Number 348 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Wait til you see the new Pearl Jam cover! [DougMash@aol.com] Re: ROLL CALL for San Francisco! [Jeff Dwarf ] Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: WFMU [dances with virgos ] di$ney [drew ] Re: Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's ["Maximilian Lang" ] Canadian Distraction [Tom Clark ] Re: audience gendering etc. [rosso@videotron.ca] RE: Bush/Boys/Beatles/Baseball/Bush again... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey <] My sister, however, IS Ansel Adams ["FS Thomas" ] Re: Mouse Machine/distribution (0.91% RH content) ["The Real Mr. Feg" ] Re: di$ney [Michael R Godwin ] Re: di$ney ["matt sewell" ] Re: WFMU [dances with virgos ] Re: michael moore or less [The Great Quail ] Hear James the Brane ["Montauk Daisy" ] Hey New Yorkers [steve ] Re: The Largo ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Hear James the Brane ["matt sewell" ] Re: education - please ignore (off-topic 100%) [Michael R Godwin ] Ultima Nextdoorland [The Great Quail ] Re: Moore, morons, etc. [gSs ] Fwd: some thoughts on Double Door, Chicago show [dances with virgos ] Re: Another off-topic post [] RE: Another off-topic post ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: Re: ROLL CALL for San Francisco! "The Real Mr. Feg" wrote: > Stepping out of the shadows to take on my traditional role on these > occasions, I ask today's three questions: > > A) Who is going to the Slims show on the 2nd? Looking doubtful. No tengo dinero. :( ===== "If we don't allow journalists, politicians, and every two-bit Joe Schmo with a cause to grandstand by using 9-11 as a lame rhetorical device, then the terrorists have already won." -- "Shredder" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:04:19 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's Anyone interested in getting together for Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's Sat, 11/30/02? They seem to be playing there every night for a week solid. Max _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:10:05 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's >From: "Maximilian Lang" >> >Anyone interested in getting together for Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's Sat, >11/30/02? They seem to be playing there every night for a week solid. Strike that, 8 straight nights. Max _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:17:54 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: WFMU here's what they played (taken from my cuelist so pardon the underscores): I_Love_Lucy Pulse_of_My_Heart Mr_Kennedy Unprotected_Love My_Mind_Is_Connected_To_Your_Dreams Each_Of_Her_Silver_Wands Narcissus Hear_My_Brane The_Man_With_The_Lightbulb_Head Queen_Of_Eyes When_I_Was_A_Kid If_You_Know_Time i should have mp3s up later tonight for anyone who missed it. the program will also be archived on wfmu.org tomorrow (just got a pleasant note about that from brian turner, in fact) at in realaudio. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:52:52 -0800 From: drew Subject: di$ney >From: BLATZMAN@aol.com > >Anyway, Disney has a certain amount of art to it that you have to admire. >There are certain aspects of that art that are forced to appeal to a wider >audience, but lets be real, there are alternatives to Disney. If people keep >going back for more, it's not due to a lack of product in the marketplace!!!! Sure, lots more people are eating McDonalds than are eating my favorite local Italian restaurant, but that's not due to any superior or even detectable culinary skill on the part of McDonald's. It's a result of the fact that it's brought to people in a certain way (i.e., available on every street in every city, cheap, fast, predictable, kid-targeted) and is edible and engineered to be fairly tasty. On the other hand, if there are a lot of animated films that approach the level of excellence of _Spirited Away_, I haven't seen them. And that would include Miyazaki's previous output. >From: dances with virgos > >the session is *one hour* long (note how woj deftly avoids trying to >determine the correct indefinite article for "hour" which i can never >remember if it's "a" since "h" is a consonant or "an" since "hour" sounds >like it begins with a vowel sound). "An," without question. No one ever says "hower," though people say "historical" and "istorical". Drew n.p.: N.E.R.D., In Search Of..., believe it or not ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:54:55 -0500 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's >>From: "Maximilian Lang" >>> >>Anyone interested in getting together for Yo La Tengo @ Maxwell's Sat, >>11/30/02? They seem to be playing there every night for a week solid. > > >Strike that, 8 straight nights. > > Max Duh, Bad Jew Max, bad Jew! It's the 2nd Annual YLT Hannukah Series @ Maxwell's I think they spell it wrong. Max _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 17:12:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Canadian Distraction A takeoff on the infamous Nigerian Email Scam: http://www.thetoque.com/021029/plea.htm - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:18:28 -0500 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: audience gendering etc. On 29 Oct 2002 at 12:24, ross taylor wrote: > Some time > around this switch-over, in the very early 70s, > was when air guitar was invented. It was invented in 1969 by Joe Cocker. Or was that an air accordion? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:36:44 -0600 From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: RE: Bush/Boys/Beatles/Baseball/Bush again... Quoting Dr John Halewood : > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gSs [mailto:gshell@metronet.com] > > i'm starting to think most libertarians are just democrtas > > who own guns. > > huh? I thought libertarians were wannabe anarchists who rely on daddy's > private army to protect them when the proles start gathering around the > walls of their mansions.... Libertarians are just anarchists in nicer clothing who like businessmen. ..Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html :: it's not your meat :: --Mr. Toad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 23:50:25 -0500 From: "FS Thomas" Subject: My sister, however, IS Ansel Adams Snaps from the Mercury Lounge this past Sunday: http://www.ochremedia.com/photos/omPhoto.php4?pg=sbs-021027.php4 - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 00:28:05 -0800 From: "The Real Mr. Feg" Subject: Re: Mouse Machine/distribution (0.91% RH content) Blatzy blatzed: > I actually don't think this is fair. You haven't been short-changed > at all. This type of animation has been around for a long time, and > if pix like Kiki and Princess Mononke had faired better at the box > office, you'd see a wider distribution. Don't underestimate the power of marketing. Just because there are exceptions like Greek Wedding (and there are always exceptions) it doesn't mean that most under-promoted movies (and the same can be said for bands/albums, for that matter) don't dissapear into obscurity while over-hyped garbage rakes in the cash and is cited as "what the people want". When I take my kids to see a movie, niether of us is prepared to suffer through a one hour car ride there and back (the time it takes me to get to San Fransisco) and that means that the local multiplex is *it* - and there is usually not more than one family movie available at any one time, except for the big holidays. Basically, we get whatever the distributers push. Kids also have choice these days - they see the trailers on TV and hound parents into taking them to *that* - the average nine year old doesn't understand that a thrilling and hillarious trailer does not always mean a thrilling and hillarious movie. So what motivates Disney to promote the same old crap? (1) Predictability. If it's worked once it WILL work again - low risk. (2) Coverage. It has to be simple, and aimed at the lowest common denominator to work everywhere globally. The more places it can be sold, the more $ they make. (3) Leverage. ...all the money they make from related merchandise. Could they turn the same marketing machine on to a quality product like Spirited Away and build that up? Of course they could ...just like a major label with promotion dollars could make a huge star out of a quality artist like Robyn Hitchcock. ~N - -- Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. -Pablo Picasso ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:36:30 -0800 From: Subject: The Largo Hey, I have news. The Soft Boys will be playing the Largo, on Tuesday Night, after the in-store at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. Also, Robyn Hitchcock solo, will be at the Largo on Thursday. The Soft Boys at Amoeba Records - Tuesday 11/5/02 7:00 PM The Soft Boys at The Largo - Tuesday 11/5/02 9:00 PM Robyn Hitchcock at The Largo - Thursday 11/7/02 9:00 PM Cafe Largo, 432 N. Fairfax Ave, West Hollywood CA 323/852-1073 Amoeba Records, 6400 Sunset Blvd, Hollywood CA 323/245-6400 OK, I have a table reservation for both Largo Shows. I am full on Tuesday 11/5/02, but have space for one more person for Thursday 11/7/02. Email me privately, as I do not check the list too much these days. Also, I have one extra ticket to the House of Blues Show in Hollywood, Monday 11/4/02, again email me privately if interested. Greg kototh@sbcglobal.net "One more animal, no one thought would get away. Hear the crunching sound, of the Leopard and her prey." - Robyn Hitchcock, 1986 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:17:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: di$ney On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, drew wrote: > "An," without question. No one ever says "hower," though people say > "historical" and "istorical". Londoners like myself have been known to elide 'half an hour' into something more like 'ahfhnao'. But locals here in Bath definitely say 'a hour', pronouncing it something like you say "uh-oh", but changing the 'oh' to 'owh', thus: "I'll be ther' in aaf uh owh". I down't knuw wher' they're to, young 'un! - - MRG n.p. Lovin' Spoonful "Four Eyes" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:06:36 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: di$ney Perhaps it's the fact I'm a bit of an oik, but I say ahfnaaeh - in the urban bits of Oxfordshire, though, people tend to say ahfnow-er - I've noticed this same thing with pronunciation of girls (gu-rulls) and world (wu-ruld), which happily I appear to have escaped. I guess we're halfway between Bath and London... Cheers Matt "generic Estuary English" Sewell >From: Michael R Godwin >Reply-To: Michael R Godwin >To: FoamSpoonAlsatians >Subject: Re: di$ney >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 13:17:15 +0000 (GMT) > >On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, drew wrote: > > "An," without question. No one ever says "hower," though people say > > "historical" and "istorical". > >Londoners like myself have been known to elide 'half an hour' into >something more like 'ahfhnao'. But locals here in Bath definitely say 'a >hour', pronouncing it something like you say "uh-oh", but changing the >'oh' to 'owh', thus: "I'll be ther' in aaf uh owh". > >I down't knuw wher' they're to, young 'un! > >- MRG > >n.p. Lovin' Spoonful "Four Eyes" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:19:58 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: WFMU when we last left our heroes, dances with virgos exclaimed: >i should have mp3s up later tonight for anyone who missed it. well, i lied. fell asleep on the couch while the mp3s were being made and then fell asleep again when they were being uploaded. doh. anyway, you can get 'em from http://www.smoe.org/woj/sb-wfmu.html i'll have the link up on fegmania.org shortly as well. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:24:45 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: michael moore or less Ken replies: >> Well, he claims to have joined the NRA because he wanted to launch a >> campaign from within the NRA to get enough people to join who will then >> disband the organization. > > hmmm...in the movie, he shows photos of himself as an award-winning marksman > in high school; so i dunno. I am taking the NRA bit directly from an interview with him I just read. Whether or not he likes to shoot targets is one thing, but he's ho friend of the NRA. On this, to be honest, I have to agree with him. Having grown up around guns, and possessing a love to shoot myself, I have no problems with the NRA in theory -- but their increasingly ridiculous and irrational political stances have totally alienated me. I am not sure they can even be "saved" from within. > as i've said, he uses a scattershot approach. i think this brings in a wide > variety of points and perspectives in an attempt to get around a large issue > like guns and violence. a lot of the connections that he makes are not > related to the issue directly; yet are shown to be related in a broader sense. That's just making an excuse for his lack of coherent thinking. There is nothing wrong with emotion, or using broad strokes. But it's not an excuse for a reasoned, rational, coherent argument, and it never will be. It allows you to *feel* good, but does far more in promoting self-righteousness and smugness than actual provocative thought. > well...it works. sometimes logic falls pretty flat in winning people over. > this seems to tie into number 2. the connections make sense on an emotional > level. Maybe it works for you; it makes me want to throw up. It cheapens the issue. It alienates people who might be more accessible. (Did you read his recent letter about the sniper? It was bloody awful.) I rank it right there with the Right's similar emotional hypocrisy. Connections might "feel right" on an emotional level, but that doesn't make it a substitute for actual thought. Prejudice, bigotry, nationalism -- all those things can "feel right" on an emotional level as well. In fact, much of your letter could read *exactly* as a defense of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk as well. >> 4. I cannot stand his smugness. > > i feel the same way about george w. Well, on that case, we can certainly both agree! - ---Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 14:38:44 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Hear James the Brane Me then James: >>does a general theme seem to be emerging here? What is >ressurection, return for? Do we have to wait for the next disc to find out > >or can someone else pry it out of the present songs? >to quote an earlier posted setlist: >I Wanna Be An Anglepoise Lamp >If You Know Time (new song -- wow!) >Underwater Moonlight >QED? Errrhhh. Yeah sure. I got it, of course. But for those poor punier intellects on list, would you care to, erhh, explicate? Especially since the set list includes a song most of us havent heard and UM has a whole new innerspace. ;-) - ---------- And Woj, thanks for being the best listmaster ever. You keep track of all the details I never could. Kay "I think it's nice when old things can still move around." Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:56:17 -0600 From: steve Subject: Hey New Yorkers The Polyphonic Spree is at the Bowery Ballroom tonight. www.polyphonicspree.com - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 08:25:40 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: The Largo This one sent twice, 9 hours apart. Does that mean it's doubly good news--I think so. Marc - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: "Marc W. Holden" ; "Julie Burton" ; "Peter Palmer" ; "Chris Franz" ; Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: The Largo > Hey, I have news. > The Soft Boys will be playing the Largo, on Tuesday Night, after the > in-store at Amoeba Records in Hollywood. Also, Robyn Hitchcock solo, will > be at the Largo on Thursday. > > The Soft Boys at Amoeba Records - Tuesday 11/5/02 7:00 PM > The Soft Boys at The Largo - Tuesday 11/5/02 9:00 PM > Robyn Hitchcock at The Largo - Thursday 11/7/02 9:00 PM > > Cafe Largo, 432 N. Fairfax Ave, West Hollywood CA 323/852-1073 > Amoeba Records, 6400 Sunset Blvd, Hollywood CA 323/245-6400 > > OK, I have a table reservation for both Largo Shows. I am full on Tuesday > 11/5/02, but have space for one more person for Thursday 11/7/02. Email me > privately, as I do not check the list too much these days. > > Also, I have one extra ticket to the House of Blues Show in Hollywood, > Monday 11/4/02, again email me privately if interested. > > > Greg > kototh@sbcglobal.net > > "One more animal, no one thought would get away. Hear the crunching sound, > of the Leopard and her prey." > > - Robyn Hitchcock, 1986 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:26:47 +0000 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Hear James the Brane Loudly seconded! I know it's a me too post, but Woj pops up everywhere, offering only the freshest RH/SBs info - hooray for him, I say... Cheers Matt >From: "Montauk Daisy" >And Woj, thanks for being the best listmaster ever. You keep track >of all the details I never could. > >Kay >"I think it's nice when old things can still move around." > >Robyn Hitchcock > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 15:39:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: education - please ignore (off-topic 100%) Just seen results of a survey of 250,000 15-year-olds in 32 countries carried out in 2000. There are 3 categories: literacy, maths and science and I only have the placings for the top 10 in each. NZ comes top for literacy, 3rd for maths and 6th for science. Finland comes 2nd for literacy, 4th for maths and 3rd for science. Japan comes top for maths and second for science, while Korea comes top for science and second for maths, but neither is in the top 10 for literacy. Canada comes 4th for literacy, 6th for maths and 5th for science. Australia comes 3rd for literacy, 5th for maths and 7th for science. UK comes 5th for literacy, 8th for maths and 4th for science. US comes 7th for literacy but is not placed in the top 10 for maths or science(!) If we award 10 points for a top, down to 1 point for a 10th, we get: Finland 24 NZ 23 Japan 19 Korea 19 Canada 18 Australia 18 UK 16 Ireland 7 Belgium 5 USA 4 Switzerland 4 Austria 3 Norway 2 Sweden 2 France 1 Good result for NZ, not to mention Finland. Very fair for Canada and Australia, not quite so good for the UK. But not so good for some others. Obviously the fact that I don't have all 32 results means that there might be some 'bubbling under' rankings which don't appear in this table; but it does suggest that you don't have to be a big country to be educationally effective. - - Mike Godwin PS Another interesting point in the article is that a recent paper by Angrist and Lavy in the Economic Journal claims that computer-aided primary school teaching actually _reduced_ pupils' maths scores in Israel... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:11:33 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: politics - please ignore On Wed, 30 Oct 2002, James Dignan wrote: > >it does look like he has the overall support of the majority. > > my argument, if you take all three of my statements together, is obvious. > You directly contradicted yourself. all this for that? and only of course after you eliminated any possible misunderstanding or misrepresentation before reaching this conclusion. > okay: I think there are people on both sides who wouldn't look beyond the > obvious "they attacked us, let's get them. And they've got big bombs" > without thinking "*they* didn't attack us. And there's no proof that > they've got big bombs." or "if Al Qaeda is active in Yemen (very likely), > and in Chechnya (very likely), why are we thinking of attacking Iraq (where > it's far less likely)?" or "why is it that two of the countries on the Axis > of Evil are enemies of each other? Does this make for a strong axis?" or > "why aren't we going after Osama bin Laden rather than Saddam Hussein?" or > "will attacking Iraq lead to the US being faced with war against the entire > Middle East?" or "isn't this largely about oil?". who the hell are you quoting? you act as though my disagreement with you puts me in agreement with your nemesis. > And that means getting rid of the monolithic > (bilithic?) stupidity of a two party system. It's easier to apprixomate a > smooth curve with several straight lines than with just two. so all this was just so you could agree with me? > In the US, this will not happen. i disagree, but we will see. if the us was as small, isolated and insignificant as New Zealand, things could happen here much quicker. > ... so unless I'm reading the situation wrongly, more effort went into > getting votes for Nader than there will be for getting Greens into congress. for most people here, voting for president is like voting for a favorite pop star or music video and its probably not much different anywhere else. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:37:46 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: Ultima Nextdoorland Does anyone have a suggested track listing for a CD-R of Nextdoorland and Side Three? - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com Better hope deferred than none. Up to a point. Till the heart starts to sicken. Company too up to a point. Better a sick heart than none. Till it starts to break. So speaking of himself he concludes for the time being, For the time being leave it at that. --Samuel Beckett, "Company" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:43:08 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Moore, morons, etc. On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > Ah. Gotcha. The "Bush as Viking or Klingon" line was meant to be humorous, > and I shoulda put some distance between that and the Mellencamp line. I > didn't mean "America" as a whole. In fact I meant "ain't that modern > America, or Earth, where politicians in general are insultingly disingenuous > about their obvious motivations". i missed the humor part, but i agree except i don't see it as a new or modern problem. every leader needs a big strong collective hand around their testicles, constantly. figuratively speaking of course. that is the only way things could ever be right. > What I find a little less credible are statements about how the Republicans > or "the right" have been waiting for an opportunity to invade everyone and > set up puppet regimes everywhere, as has been alleged here and elsewhere > recently. Recall that before 9/11 this administration was happy to behave > as if the rest of the world didn't even exist. I credit some of the > allegations that these guys are worried about oil, and that there are *some* > big fans of war for war's sake on that side of the political spectrum, but I > feel they'd generally sooner ignore the world at large than take it over. > Especially at the cost of American lives, which has become next to > unthinkable. i mostly agree with that and maybe it's a good thing overall. but i'm not sure. i think a life is worth very little, but a person's right to that life is worth a great deal. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:46:00 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Fwd: some thoughts on Double Door, Chicago show >From: "James Francis" >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 12:29:25 -0600 >To: woj@smoe.org >Reply-To: spine@whale-mail.com >Subject: some thoughts on Double Door, Chicago show > > >Hello list. I just thought I'd add a few thoughts about my first >Robyn show in a while (since the Italy tour of a few years back). I >can't help myself because I'm still so excited about it. > >Robyn was in good spirits, in good voice, quite talkative, clearly >enjoying himself. I'd never seen Kimberley play before, and watching >him is a pure joy. What energy. The band was in amazing form, >hitting harmonies beautifully while playing intricate arrangements. >So nice to see a band actually taking care to reproduce the harmony >parts when playing live (and in some cases, add to them and rearrange >them). Matthew and Morris were terrific as well; I'm a guitarist, so >that's where my attention usually is, but they're an excellent rhythm >section. Morris is such a tasteful, musical drummer. In short, the >band reminded me of . . . no one else! And I think that just about >says it all. > >There was a stretch in the middle of the show, while they were >playing "Belles of Rhymney" and "Airscape" and "La Cherite," when I >thought that they where absolutely stunning. Stunning, beautiful >music. This was the more "delicate" portion of the set, but there >was absolutely no drop-off in intensity. If anything, it was the >highlight (for me). The more raucous parts of the set were amazing, >as well, but that didn't surprise me. > >All of the new songs sound great live, and I was especially glad they >played "Lions & Tigers," which, I think, was a surprise in the >encore. Kimberley looked amazed that it had come off so well. I >hope this tour spawns another record, because the band seems to bring >out some great things, surprising arrangements, in Robyn's songs. >And I'm glad to have Side Three, but I have to say that in this case >it seems to me that Robyn chose exactly the best ten tracks for the >real album (as opposed to the Mossy Liquor and Star for Bram >situations). > >My favorite incarnation of Robyn's live show was actually when he was >in the acoustic folk troubadour mode, touring with Deni and playing >songs like "Wide Open Star," "Surfer Ghost," and "Cheese You." But >in terms of seeing Robyn with a band, I'd say this ranks with the pre- >Respect Egyptians show here at the Park West as being the best I've >ever seen. Don't miss them! > >Jim > >P.S. Admire the shirts, write about the shirts, but don't spend the >entire show yelling about the shirts! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 18:33:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Another off-topic post Following the discussion of irritating vocab which took place some months ago, can I moan about the ridiculous '-tastic' suffix? In this week's Independent on Sunday a track on the Christina Aguilera CD was described as 'shagtastic' and a cultural history of the penis was reviewed as 'phallictastic'. A month or so ago an article in the Daily Telegraph(!) described a performance by Status Quo as (surprise surprise) 'Quo-tastic'. Presumably these all derive from Smashey and Nicey's 'poptastic', but why should it have suddenly caught on years after their demise? - - Miketastic Godwin n.p. Royal Teens "We wear short shorts" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 12:46:18 -0600 (CST) From: Subject: Re: Another off-topic post re -tastic -- I generally agree with Mr. Godwin, but I request an exemption for "craptastic," if only because as a word it is, well, craptastic! Tautologitastic! Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:51:25 -0800 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: Another off-topic post > re -tastic -- > > I generally agree with Mr. Godwin, but I request an exemption for >"craptastic," if only because as a word it is, well, craptastic! Nah, you could dump craptastic too. Especially when there is the far superior craptacular waiting in the wings. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #348 ********************************