From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #347 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, October 29 2002 Volume 11 : Number 347 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Madonna Of The Phone Booths [Michael R Godwin ] Re: conversations with Matthew (1%RH, 99%MS) [Ken Ostrander ] slim's this saturday [drew ] Mouse Machine/distribution [BLATZMAN@aol.com] Chicks at Gigs; Mighty Quinn; Madonna Intro ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: conversations with Matthew (1%RH, 99%MS) [Gary Assassin ] Re: Madonna Of The Phone Booths ["purple pagoda" ] Time, time, time, see what's become of me [grutness@surf4nix.com (James D] politics - please ignore [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Clamps [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Re: Side Three ["Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Madonna Of The Phone Booths On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 MPys2626@aol.com wrote: > >>Hey..while we're on the subject of Robyn and video...I watched my copy of > 'Brenda With The Lightbulb Eyes' comp over the weekend. Is there a > cd/vinyl/import version of Madonna Of The Wasps that has that intro where > he's in the phone booth singing into the receiver? He performed it on the '89 > tour w/REM...been trying to track down a version since.<< If you mean the "Her service is perfect pain" bit, it appears on "The Kershaw Sessions" CD. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:25:48 -0500 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: conversations with Matthew (1%RH, 99%MS) >He was curious as to the fan's reaction to Robyn - does it differ >depending >on the type of show. Does our view of him change, is the >dynamic different? the solo gigs are warm and fuzzy. even during the _eye_ tour. i love to see robyn solo. his wit and personality shine through much more. he tends to invent songs or try out new ones with greater frequency and has more monologues and storytime. the dynamic is very different with a band. the sebadoh backing thing during mabd was a highlight of that show. the soft boys gig from last year was one of the best robyn shows i've ever seen! the energy and song selection was tops. the only show that rivals it for me would be from the _perspex island_ tour. i think that is because there was a mini-acoustic set in the middle of the show and some wonderful keyboards. before i saw the soft boys with matthew, i was a little disappointed that andy wasn't going to be there; but i have to say that he did a fantastic job. the playing on _nextdoorland_ is also very good. it hasn't blown me away like 'lady waters and the hooded one'; but not much has. ken "please come to boston" the kenster np can o' bees ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:33:22 EST From: MPys2626@aol.com Subject: Re: Madonna Of The Phone Booths > If you mean the "Her service is perfect pain" bit, it appears on "The > Kershaw Sessions" CD. Mike, Thanks, puts that issue to bed. Actually somebody I know just picked up that CD in Tunes the afternoon (last Friday) of the Maxwells show! So it's w/in reach. Mark Sleep Well ~ Don't Burst http://www.mitchworldusa.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:39:29 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: WFMU tony coulter (deejay on before brian turner) just mentioned that the soft boys set will be broadcast around 4pm est. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 10:54:47 -0800 From: drew Subject: slim's this saturday >From: "The Real Mr. Feg" > >A) Who is going to the Slims show on the 2nd? > >2) Are you interested in pre-show feggery in San Francisco? A) Yes. 2) I'm interested, but the real question is will I participate, and the answer is "probably not" -- I already have plans during the day. If they are cancelled I might be able to catch up with y'all. >From: "Rex.Broome" > >What I find a little less credible are statements about how the Republicans >or "the right" have been waiting for an opportunity to invade everyone and >set up puppet regimes everywhere, as has been alleged here and elsewhere >recently. Certainly not just the Republicans, and perhaps not "everyone" and "everywhere," but this sort of behavior is pretty well established in U.S. foreign policy during the last 50 years, isn't it? Why is it so difficult to believe that we'd try it in the Middle East when we seemed so happy to try it in Central America during the 70s and 80s? Why would the rest of the federal government be so eager to line up behind Bush if this were just or even mainly about beating up Saddam for Da-da? I don't think the world is so feudal anymore. The merchants are in charge. >Recall that before 9/11 this administration was happy to behave >as if the rest of the world didn't even exist. More precisely, this administration was happy to behave as if the _interests_ of the rest of the world were secondary to the interests of the U.S., which is not at all the same thing. I pretty much agree with your take on Michael Moore, though. I didn't like his book as much as I wanted to -- I'm a fan of facts, when I can get them -- but I'm glad he's doing what he's doing. At the very least he makes being left _seem_ like a populist thing again and not just for academics. And I have to love anyone who'd drive a big pink Sodomy Bus around and irritate Fred Phelps. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:00:51 EST From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Subject: Mouse Machine/distribution In a message dated 10/29/02 10:21:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org writes: << The detail - in both the backgrounds and the movement - and the sheer imagination of it - show just how much we've been short-changed by the formulaic Disney machine >> I actually don't think this is fair. You haven't been short-changed at all. This type of animation has been around for a long time, and if pix like Kiki and Princess Mononke had faired better at the box office, you'd see a wider distribution. After all, the studio wants to the film to do well. And maybe the release pattern might work out to the films ultimate benefit. Look at Greek Wedding for a stellar example of distribution roll-out. That was masterminded by the former boss at the place where good old Rex works. Hey Rex!!! Did you even know that former Preferred boss Mr Berney was the genius behind that??? Bitch Deanne thought he was an idiot! Ha! Anyway, Disney has a certain amount of art to it that you have to admire. There are certain aspects of that art that are forced to appeal to a wider audience, but lets be real, there are alternatives to Disney. If people keep going back for more, it's not due to a lack of product in the marketplace!!!! Blatzy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:03:33 -0800 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Chicks at Gigs; Mighty Quinn; Madonna Intro Ross O: >>The Television Factor--the two times I saw Tom Verlaine the audience was very >>male. I remember a point where the area before the stage was relatively empty & >>it was just me & about 12 guys nodding our heads & watching his fingers. And 8 of those guys were taping it. It's funny, innit? I know a few women who find Verlaine really sexy (unsurprisingly a few of them dated me back when I was way gaunt, so there's a caveat in their tastes) but you don't see them at his shows (solo. anyhow; Television brings out the ex-punk ladies). I dunno if guitar-nerdism really keeps women away from SB's shows, though. I don't think their style is that well known. When I say I'm going to see the Soft Boys, and someone, particularly a woman, asks "Who?", the answer that clears it up for them is "It's Robyn Hitchcock's old band"... so they're proabably thinking of it as more like his solo stuff. I could also list some female lead guitarists whose playing really turns me on in every possible way, but that's a different thread. ____________ I have an inexplicable fondness for Ian & Sylvia's version of "Quinn the Eskimo". But Manfredd Mann's is indeed the best. It's all in the pause before "...Come all without"... ___________ Mark: Robyn definitely performed the intro to "Madonna of the Wasps" when he was on the old Letterman show during that era. I remember distinctly that he broke a string early in the song, and he was using the Letterman band, not the Egyptians. Anyhow, I'm sure that's kicking around somewhere, if it will suffice. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:05:09 +0000 (GMT) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Live bands and live footballers Blimey Marc! You've recently seen 3 bands I'd rank in my personal top dozen live bands ever, and in the space of the week!!! Glad to hear The Cramps are on form. I'm a member of the Cramps yahoo group and there have been some ecstatic responses from members there, naturally enough. Apart from The Soft Boys they are the only band I've ever followed on a UK tour. Visceral and yet humorous at the same time. Fantastic stuff. Residents have been wonderful on their last couple of visits to the UK as well. Particularly liked the Wormwood tour. Haven't heard the new album. Will have to snap that up. American soccerball corner - I support Coventry City. We signed Cobi Jones a while back, and he really wasn't very good. He used to charge about like a souped-up clockwork toy, but didn't seem to understand the finer points of the game. I was very surprised to see him at the last World Cup. He did seem to have improved, though there was one moment when he came on as a sub and was practically mugged by the oppo!!! (Can't remember who they were). We almost signed Alexei Lalas as well. I saw an album by him in a bargain bin the other day, and almost bought it, but realised that that would have been rather silly... Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:29:03 -0600 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Chicago Review Through the remnants of my head cold I can still hear Kim's guitar blazing through my head today. Met up for some pre-game pizza with Doc, Dave and his ladyfriend, Brian Nupp and Venus, Michael Bachman, Dolph, Carrissa and Jen. Much time spent with toy dinosaurs and sundry art supplies. Some setlist suggestions hopefully put forth. Request ballons created. Beverages consumed. The Double Door was round the corner and is what Robyn called a 'pyschedelic pub for a psychelic pub rock band.' Small, dark, a few tables and a long bar on one side. Matthew roving about in the main room with a beer before the show, chatting with Nuppy and being nice enough to sign my copy of NDL. Ryan in the merch booth gave me the line of the night, for when he asked if this was my first show on the tour and I explained the shows were too close together and too far apart to trek for he simply replied 'tell me about it.' Met up with Chris (and sorry I missed you Daryl), picked up Side 3 for $10 and moved to the front. The real front, like I spent the night resting my arms on Kimberley's monitor. Room to stand and a smallish stage at one end. Light crowd early for 'The Lonesome Organist' who opened, basically a one man band on vocals, organ, mouth organ, drums, harmonica, xylophone, guitar, foot bells, tap shoes, and steel drum. At least three of these were in constant use at any given time. Insane, really. He mentioned that he had met RH in England and that "he was a kind drunk" or "he was kind to a drunk" not sure which, but it got a laugh. Opinions on his performance ranged from the curious to the incredulous, but it certainly kept your attention. To me sounded like exactly what the White Stripes would be if the heavily distorted guitar was removed for a heavily distorted organ instead. The boys came on just past 8:30 with "I Love Lucy," very tight and spot on from the get-go especially Kim, who looks happy to be there, is loud and is energized. Matthew on the other side can be heard this time around which is a very pleasant change. Morris had been sporting a flash blue blazer pre-show but has toned down for the set, leaving the sunglasses on. His timing is impeccable. Robyn in a white polka-dot-on-black shirt and struggling with his voice early as they punch into "Pulse" and then an especially tight "Kingdom of Love." RH's guitar down in the mix a bit which is fine with me as Kim is clearly on and really enjoying himself. The perfunctory "QOE" then "Mr. Kennedy" where they both really stretch out on the jam - and the results are spectacular. I don't think I've ever really seen RH enjoy playing guitar like this live, he's mugging with Kim and trying to read where he's going as they intertwine looping lines up and down the fretboard. The place is really warming up, crowd well filled in and appreciative. I really like the upbeat "Unprotected Love" now that I've heard it live, much better than on the album. RH vocals keep creeping up in the mix and Kim's guitar follows. They lurch into "Hear My Brane" which is explained to be 'an old Soft Boys tune, before even Underwater Moonlight.' I was thinking that if they played this it would be my highlight for the night, but RH follows with the only rant of the evening - a missive about fishing for pumpkins in a lake at sunset - with the beginnings of "Vegetable Man." And they crush it, right on the numbers, just mind-blowing. Never thought I would hear them do that one. All parts of the sound spectrum seem balanced now. "Bells of Rhymey" follows, them dreamy versions of "Airscape" and "La Cherite." I really do not ever tire of hearing "Airscape." They really put the hammer down to close the main set: "Strings" - with the Pistol's progression, kudos to whoever caught that one - which was just stunning loud and in your face live, "Anglepoise" which RH related 'it took us forever to work the bits out' or something like that, and finally "Underwater Moonlight." This was really where the force of them as a band really struck me, last year seemed like a loud stereo or just too well played, but this time they are electric and seem to really be feeding off of each other and playing at the boundries. And Kim is in glorious form. The rant during "UM" is my favorite ever: 'It's the six-o-clock news, you're at fifteen fathoms and sinking fast' and continues to describe learning to breath water, being attacked by the squid, finding decomposed bodies in the cabin of a rusted hull on the seafloor, and then been shaken awake out of what has apparently been a horrible dream (RH screaming) 'Wake up Capt. Borovski, Wake Up!' whilst wildly detuning his guitar and Kim creating deep-sea noises over the pickups. Glorious. Encores are all straightforward; "Narcissus," "Rock 'n Roll Toilet," "I Wanna Destroy You" ('dedicated to W, maybe Dick Cheney in the background, a side helping of Donald Rumsfeld, and how about that Condaleeza Rice'), and "Lions & Tigers." Surprise of the night comes when they're huddled around Morris trying to come up with something that hasn't been suggested, and I hear RH say 'Prawns - did anyone request that?' and they're off into it, trying to remember how it goes and Kim goofs it in one spot. I was in heaven, "Where are the Prawns" one of my favorite songs and I didn't even have a bag of frozen shrimp to throw either. They're called back for "Man with the Lightbulb Head" and then a couple hours after it started, it goes quiet. Said a couple of quick goodbyes and them off home a bit after 11pm. What show indeed. Michael (sorry that got a bit long) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:02:11 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assassin Subject: Re: conversations with Matthew (1%RH, 99%MS) Actually Mary, your calculation was wrong. There was 7.19% Robyn content in this message by my calculation. On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, mary wrote: > I'll preface this with any apologies for inaccuracies - I'm writing this > from memory, memory that has been addled with a bit too much drink over the > weekend and not enough sleep. > > After the show at the Bowery Ballroom, I hung out with some friend > (non-feggies) in the 1st floor bar having a last drink of the evening. > > All the boys came out and were hanging around too. I took the opportunity > to have them all autograph my copy of "Side 3." I spoke with Robyn for a > few minutes but didn't want to keep him long from the brandy that he just > got from the bartender. > > While Kimberly and Morris were signing my cd, I spoke with Matthew. I told > him I was on the feg list. He said that he reads the posts from time to > time and had conversed at length with Eb. He said that he was a bit upset > about some criticism that Eb posted - something about his 1 note bass playing. > > I asked him if he had seen the paper dolls page that I had done a while > ago. He said he had. He also told me that I needed to update the Fulham > football jersey because they had a new sponsor. Then he asked me if I could > add Daisy, his daughter, to the page. So he broke out some pictures from > his wallet and gave me one to use. I commented that I liked the orange > striped shirt he was wearing and he said his wife made it. I told him he > was lucky to have such a talented wife. I went back to my friends - didn't > want to usurp Matthew from his fans and plus I didn't want my friends to > think I deserted them. > > A bit later, Matthew joined us until the lights came up and we were all > forced to leave. At one point he asked if I could scan more pictures of > Daisy for him. He had some that were starting to get a bit worn - the proud > papa must be showing her off to everyone! Matthew asked if it was possible > to get the pictures back to him the next day because he didn't want to be > away from her for too long. I told him sure so he gave me his hotel info > and we planned to meet up the next afternoon. > > So I scanned the photos and went to meet Matthew on Sunday. I rang his room > and he met me in the lobby. He said he had some time before meeting with > Laura - the Softboys.com person and did I want to go for a drink. So we > headed for a bar where he had been interviewed the other day for a bass > player magazine. I asked him if he was going to be on the cover and he said > they didn't take even one picture. While walking to the bar he said > something about not always drinking all the time but when touring with a > band, you have to live that rock and roll lifestyle. > > Some topics that we talked about - the music industry, leaving law to live > the life of a rock and roll superstar, working at home, Charles Dickens, > the new song that the Soft Boys played on Sunday night, a live SB record, > creating websites, the overwhelming success of Snail in Shanghai and China, > moving to Japan, foreign language versions of their recordings, > softboys.com vs. thesoftboys.com, and he asked me my opinion about Robyn > solo vs. Robyn with the band. He was curious as to the fan's reaction to > Robyn - does it differ depending on the type of show. Does our view of him > change, is the dynamic different? So, I'm now passing the question on to > all of you. And Matthew, if you happen to be reading this, I'm sure I'm not > doing a good job of explaining your question, so please restate it if possible. > > Anyway, this tale all come back around to Daisy. She's now with Matthew on > the paper dolls page and yes, the football jersey has been updated too. For > your enjoyment... > > http://www.loona.net/sb > > Enjoy. > > Mary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:16:01 -0500 From: Mary Subject: Re: (1%RH, 99%MS) (50%Spock) At 03:02 PM 10/29/2002 -0500, Gary Assassin wrote: >Actually Mary, your calculation was wrong. There was 7.19% Robyn content >in this message by my calculation. Are you endeavoring to be accurate? Mary np The Soft Boys, Side 3 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 11:30:35 -0800 From: "purple pagoda" Subject: Re: Madonna Of The Phone Booths >Beats turning to alcohol I spose. 'Fraid that ship sailed long ago, matey. hmmm...'the wreck of the bill'.....nah, bad rhythm...forget it. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:18:39 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: conversations with Matthew (1%RH, 99%MS) when we last left our heroes, Gary Assassin exclaimed: >Actually Mary, your calculation was wrong. There was 7.19% Robyn content >in this message by my calculation. of course, you diluted the message somewhat by reposting the entire message. so, let's round down to 7% and call it even. ;) brian turner just confirmed the wfmu session starts at 4 and is an hours long. he opened his show with two tracks from underwater moonlight and "nightmare" from the bible of bop. gotta love that! woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:28:06 -0500 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: conversations with Matthew (1%RH, 99%MS) when we last left our heroes, dances with virgos exclaimed: >brian turner just confirmed the wfmu session starts at 4 and is an hours >long. "an hours"? geez. remind me not go out five nights in a row again (kristeen young last thursday, soft boys friday through sunday and sleater-kinney last night). the session is *one hour* long (note how woj deftly avoids trying to determine the correct indefinite article for "hour" which i can never remember if it's "a" since "h" is a consonant or "an" since "hour" sounds like it begins with a vowel sound). woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:03:22 -0500 From: Brian Subject: Re: Side Three Exactly. I second this, Quail. Nuppy. PS Chicago rocked! At Saturday, 26 October 2002, you wrote: >Just a note on the "Side Three" question. I think one of the reasons the >Soft Boys released "Side Three" might be partly financial. Let's face it -- >"Nextdoorland" is not going to sell a million copies. (Obviously this is not >because it's not good enough -- I think it's fantastic -- but because people >are idiots who have been ignoring the shining light of Hitchcock for some >twenty-five years.) So why not make a second CD of songs for "fans only?" >Especially considering the fact a follow-up to "Nextdoorland" is no sure >thing? Like we're really going to resent spending a few extra bucks to keep >Robyn and the lads solvent! It's the least I can do for them, what, after >helping define my life since 1986? I'll gladly fork over a little cash for a >few more Soft Boys tunes! > >--The Great "Spirit of Radio" Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:20 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Time, time, time, see what's become of me >"Chapter 24," The Carravagio mimic, "in my end is my beginning," time >everywhere -- hmmmm, does a general theme seem to be emerging here? What is >ressurection, return for? Do we have to wait for the next disc to find out >or can someone else pry it out of the present songs? to quote an earlier posted setlist: >I Wanna Be An Anglepoise Lamp >If You Know Time (new song -- wow!) >Underwater Moonlight QED? James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 11:21:53 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: politics - please ignore >> >actually an accurate resentment would be 'ain't that earth'. but how soon >> >we forget. do you really think the sorry dems and reps who follow the >> >president are doing so to help restore the good name his father lost for >> >the family? jeez louise that is fucking ridiculous. the left are the right >> >and are now nearly impossible to distinguish. the similarity is beyond >>creepy. >> >it is no longer and probably has never been what's better or worse >> >overall, it's whatever one side supports, the other side opposes blinding. >> >> so - both dems and reps are supporting Bush, > >it does look like he has the overall support of the majority. > >what is your arguement? are you saying no democrat supports bush on the >iraqi issue? or are you saying that the iraqi issue is actually a vendetta >to restore honor to the bush family name? my argument, if you take all three of my statements together, is obvious. You directly contradicted yourself. >> As Big Bird used to say, one of these things is not like the others. > >and if you can remember, there was always at least three items. the three items were, in this case, your three statements. >re-read the sentence. it says 'the sorry dems and reps who follow the >president....'. in fact, the sentence was a question so why don't you >answer it? okay: I think there are people on both sides who wouldn't look beyond the obvious "they attacked us, let's get them. And they've got big bombs" without thinking "*they* didn't attack us. And there's no proof that they've got big bombs." or "if Al Qaeda is active in Yemen (very likely), and in Chechnya (very likely), why are we thinking of attacking Iraq (where it's far less likely)?" or "why is it that two of the countries on the Axis of Evil are enemies of each other? Does this make for a strong axis?" or "why aren't we going after Osama bin Laden rather than Saddam Hussein?" or "will attacking Iraq lead to the US being faced with war against the entire Middle East?" or "isn't this largely about oil?". >and so here we are. i am starting to think to you actually like things the >way they are. heh. As I stated a while back, my vote in the recent New Zealand elections went to a party finishing seventh (actually, that was the candidate vote. The party vote went elsewhere). Since the choice in the US is between the far-right Republicans, the nearly-as-far-right Democrats, and the slightly-to-the- left-of-centre Greens, I'd say the US needs a little balance politically. And that means getting rid of the monolithic (bilithic?) stupidity of a two party system. It's easier to apprixomate a smooth curve with several straight lines than with just two. New Zealand used to have a two party system - National (about level with the Democrats, but officially our Republican equivalent) and Labour (somewhat to the left of the Democrats, but officially our Democrat equivalent). The situation was, on a small scale, very similar to the US's two-party system. It took a hung parliament, with seats approximately 50-49-2 for that all to change. Now there's a full range of parties, thankfully, and our current government is a three-way coalition. Seats in the current parliament are approximately 50-30-12-9-9-8-2. The Libertarian party got about 100 votes nationwide. In the US, this will not happen. The reason is simple - with the 'all-or-nothing' voting system that states use in the presidential elections, it would need a third party to win over an entire state even to get points on the board. There is no leverage at that level for third parties. Any leverage that can be gained must be done at congressional level. Yet that has, in the public perception, less import, so unless I'm reading the situation wrongly, more effort went into getting votes for Nader than there will be for getting Greens into congress. James (catching up after three days with an ISP down 90% of the time) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:25:28 +0000 (GMT) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: Clamps Ken quipped >Is there ever any talk of Fur on the Craps >list? She's a friend of >mine. Yeah, there has been. Kind of 'currently residing in the where-is-she-now file'-style enquiries. Someone said she was doing more singer-songwriter-ecto stuff, which is, of course, complete anathema to the Lux'n'Ivy-philes. Is that correct? I'm sure they'd be interested in what she's up to over there. I met her briefly on a British tour once when some friends of mine were the Cramps support band. She seemed nice, and didn't wear much onstage... Joe Six degrees of separation, Soft Boys to Cramps. Matthew and Morris played with Alex Chilton. Chilton produced Songs The Lord Taught Us. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:55:25 -0800 From: "Michael E. Kupietz, wearing a pointy hat" Subject: Re: Side Three Hi, guys, Mike here, I used to be on the list a few years ago but got so far behind that I gave up, just re-subscribed, and this time I've got my mail filters set to highlight any messages that actually contain "Robyn" or "Soft Boys" so no worries ;-) I haven't heard "Side Three" yet, but to me it's right in keeping with Robyn's last few releases - "Mossy Liquor" and "Star For Bram" as slightly harder-to-acquire companions to "Moss Elixir" and "Jewels For Sophia". I love it that he/they do that, it always feels like a nice nod to the fans to me, like "If you're into it enough to do a few minutes extra work, here's a few more gems for you." Especially if you consider that - at least to my ears - "Liquor" and "Bram" are as good or even better albums than the widespread releases. I don't get into the "Bonus track" thing, where you've got to buy one substantially similar album in 3 different formats to get all the music (sometimes an extra song or two) but releasing a whole second fan-oriented album is really great. I think Robyn probably knew what he was doing when some of the songs on "Bram" didn't make it onto "Jewels". Mike At 4:03 PM -0500 10/29/02, Brian spake thus: >Exactly. I second this, Quail. > >Nuppy. > >PS Chicago rocked! > >At Saturday, 26 October 2002, you wrote: > >>Just a note on the "Side Three" question. I think one of the reasons >the >>Soft Boys released "Side Three" might be partly financial. Let's >face it -- >>"Nextdoorland" is not going to sell a million copies. (Obviously >this is not >>because it's not good enough -- I think it's fantastic -- but because >people >>are idiots who have been ignoring the shining light of Hitchcock >for some >>twenty-five years.) So why not make a second CD of songs for "fans >only?" >>Especially considering the fact a follow-up to "Nextdoorland" is >no sure >>thing? Like we're really going to resent spending a few extra bucks >to keep >>Robyn and the lads solvent! It's the least I can do for them, what, >after >>helping define my life since 1986? I'll gladly fork over a little >cash for a >>few more Soft Boys tunes! >> >>--The Great "Spirit of Radio" Quail ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #347 ********************************