From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #340 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 25 2002 Volume 11 : Number 340 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: a risky question... [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: a risky question...(Addendum) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: a risky question...(Addendum) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: a risky question...(Addendum) [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Re: a risky question...(Addendum) [] Re: Anyone taping Maxwell's? [dances with virgos ] Re: Anyone taping Maxwell's? ["Maximilian Lang" ] risky questions, long albums ["ross taylor" ] Soft Boys Radio shows. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Tonight's Opening Act? ["Maximilian Lang" ] Bush Baby & Beeegness cont'd ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Tonight's Opening Act? [Ken Weingold ] Re: Tonight's Opening Act? ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re:Ken the wise-acre;-) ["Montauk Daisy" ] reap [Ken Ostrander ] Re: reap [Randallriebe@aol.com] Re: Mpls 10/29 ["chain-wallet bitch" ] Re: Mpls 10/29 [Ken Weingold ] RE: Mpls 10/29 ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] Re: Mpls 10/29 [Ken Weingold ] Re: Bush Baby & Beeegness cont'd [Miles Goosens ] Speaking of the Pistols... [Tom Clark ] another reap [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:21:44 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: a risky question... On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, steve wrote: > So how about using the same shock-value tactics the administration uses > in the drug war to confront the public with the ultimate - and much > more linearly linked - consequences of their energy wastefulness? > Imagine a soccer mom in a Ford Excursion (11 mpg city, 15 mpg highway) > saying, "I'm building a nuclear bomb for Saddam Hussein." - Arianna > Huffington If she's referring to those ads like the one in which we move from some guy smoking pot, to his dealer, to increasingly Shady Criminal from Central Casting -looking International Nasites - when I saw the ad the first time, I thought, "well, obviously the answer is for the guy to grow his own - but given our government's draconian policies there, there's far less risk for him to buy from someone else - someone else whose larger profit margins, organization, and willingness to use lethal force insulates them from worrying about the cops confiscating his stereo system and collection of vintage porn videos." Okay, I didn't actually think *all* of that - but really, just another example of how absurdly counterproductive the US's drug policy is. Almost all the evils that arise from it come from the illegality of drugs, the market that illegality creates, the need to enforce and protect those illegal operations - and the rest comes from treating drug problems as moral issues rather than medical ones (when they're even that). Jeff: drugs used today include ibuprofen and a decongestant. Oh yeah: a beer with dinner. Ceci n'est pas une .sig ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 23:24:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: a risky question...(Addendum) On Thu, 24 Oct 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > Central Casting -looking International Nasites - when I saw the ad the That's "Nasties"... > Jeff: drugs used today include ibuprofen and a decongestant. Oh yeah: a > beer with dinner. Something evidently impaired my typing ability though... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 01:58:34 -0400 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: Maxwell's meeting plan? Hey Max, Ken, Everyone, We'll meet whoever shows up at the Gobi Grill at 6PM Friday. Ben and I are hooking up ahead of time for a beer at the White Horse Tavern (567 Hudson Street, NYC) at 4PM. Gotta get a head start. It's near the subway to Hoboken so Ken, anyone if you're feel like hooking up in the city we'll probably start heading to NJ at 5:15PM. Sounds like a 8-10 person table for dinner. See you all later... Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Maximilian Lang > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 6:13 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Maxwell's meeting plan? > > > Hi everyone, > > > http://www.hobokeni.com/gobi_grill.asp > > > The Gobi Grill's address is: 746 Park Ave. in Hoboken. The > consensus > seems to be a six'ish meeting time so we can rush back to > Maxwell's to > stargaze the Soft Boys(Robyn has always hung out before the shows). > > If I we have not met, I would be play the part of a graying > beer bellied > Keith Ohlberman in the Feg movie and my wife Kathy would be > the Shelly > Long'ish character. Our taper friend Frank would be playing > the accountant > because he is one and looks it. Does anyone have anything > other to add? > > Looking Forward to tomorrow! > > Max & Kathy > > _________________________________________________________________ > Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 06:47:20 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: a risky question...(Addendum) Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > Something evidently impaired my typing ability though... blame the ibuprofen. It can seriously mess up your coordination. When I was on huge doses for arthritis, it made me lurch around and drool -- well, more than usual, anyway. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:25:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: what James said James asked: Is a large part of Dubya's single-minded obsession with Iraq due to a feeling that he must right a family wrong? How much talk has their been of the Bushbaby (a) 'finishing the job for daddy' or (b) trying to prove that he's a better president than daddy by getting it right this time? I have felt this all along, but there is more to it than that at the moment. The economy and unemployment present a huge problem which GW doesn't want to have to discuss. And the timing of all this sudden Iraq focus coincides perfectly with the upcoming election. It's a flag-waving tactic - if you show any opposition to what he wants, you are clearly not patriotic, and if you are not a patriot, you shouldn't be elected. Jill 'regime changes begin at home' Brand ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 08:21:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: a risky question...(Addendum) On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > > > Something evidently impaired my typing ability though... > > blame the ibuprofen. It can seriously mess up your coordination. When I was on huge doses for arthritis, it made me lurch around and drool -- well, more than usual, anyway. By the way: are you one of those "Stew"s whom Robyn's never met in his life? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:24:38 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Re:Dubya James Dignan wrote: > Is a large part of Dubya's single-minded obsession with Iraq due to a > feeling that he must right a family wrong? How much talk has their > been of the Bushbaby (a) 'finishing the job for daddy' or b) My take is that he needs to prove to himself he can wear daddy's pants. Somewhere in the back of his unconsiousness, or maybe even consiousness, lies the suspician that maybe, just maybe, if he wasnt George Bush's son he wouldnt have been given the opportunities he has. So he needs to prove to himself--and all those smirkers out there, that not only is he as full of the right shit as daddy, he's even more full of it! Kay _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 9:33:07 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Re: a risky question...(Addendum) Jeffrey with not 1, but 2, Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > By the way: are you one of those "Stew"s whom Robyn's > never met in his life? no, I'm one of the Stews he has met (I carried his flight case in Edinburgh last year, woo). I like Side3. I haven't quite worked out what the one minute tape ripping interlude is all about; I think it's part of the SBs rejected demo for Elephant 6. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:33:06 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Anyone taping Maxwell's? when we last left our heroes, Maximilian Lang exclaimed: >I think a number of people are going to. I am, Frank M., Scott Scleentz >will be I don't know if Woj and Ferris will be but it is a possiblity that >they will. i was planning on it as well. like i told someone else yesterday, seems like everyone going tonight will be recording. well, that was the case until *kay* decided to attend anyway. ;) see y'all tonight! woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:58:09 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Anyone taping Maxwell's? >From: dances with virgos >i was planning on it as well. like i told someone else yesterday, seems >like everyone going tonight will be recording. woj LOL, I have the fear everyone will back out of recording except for me. Cross the fingers for a glitch free recording. Max A rare NP from Max- Luna Live @ Maxwell's_July 2002_Bewitched _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 11:11:55 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: risky questions, long albums Brian H.-- >My sense, fwiw, is that the real source of this obsession can be located >in the old joke about the man who loses his keys in a dark alley, but >looks for them under a streetlight because the light is better. I love that metaphore! And of course, Dubya has a very small set of keys. I think the "Saddam tried to kill my Dad" thing is a too-personal-appeal thing that other presidents in later years have made (including Clinton & Reagon), & it clashes grotesquely w/ the mind-boggling world power they have. It's something a not-to-likeable king in a Shakespear history play would do. I don't remember where the Saddam v. Dad recent speech was, I think at some university. Anyway, here's a link to the REGIME CHANGE BEGINS AT HOME graphic: www.moveon.org/PAC_regimechange2/ - --- It's nice to rant on politics since I can't go to the show. In a moment of frustration at no DC shows, no place/money to stay in NYC & no energy to drive up, rock, drive back & no foresight about things like Ed's offer, I arranged w/ a friend who'll get me in to see a local production of Ubu Roi. It will be a much smaller experience, but there may be similarities. - --- Loved the Caravaggio connection. Re. Strings & "Anarchy in the UK," I've thought that the main melody sounds a bit like some mid- late Zepplin song, maybe The Ocean? Can't remember, but can hear the tune, "nah-nah-nah, nah nahnahnah -- ooooooooohh bayyby bayyyby" - --- Long albums-- I for one am used to hunting thru lots of tracks for one pay off. Verse, chorus, skip. Verse, chorus, skip. Verse, sounds good, chorus, sounds great, play it through. Score! It's much harder w/ old tapes & still hard w/ vinyl. Lots of old 60s albums w/ 3 good songs: the hit starting side one, the hit starting side two, and one other that could be anywhere. Buy it used, pick the good tracks & add them to a compilation. I mostly live off compilation tapes & disks. I'm not too into Springsteen, but I could have liked The River as one disk. I like about one lp's worth of Sandinista, likewise Husker Du's Warehouse (but that wasn't supposed to be special). On the other hand, I think the 1st Manassas lp set is Steve Stills' All Things Must Pass, & can't be cut. With some bands I just want the greatest hits. With Robyn et al I'll collect all sorts of ephemera and enjoy the different cover art, different versions etc. I think it's cute that Nextdoorland is about an lp long, since it is partially aimed at older listeners. I've almost gotten up to flip the record after "Mind is Connected." - --- Looking forward to reviews, and the TREE. Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:15:58 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Soft Boys Radio shows. Hi, The Soft Boys have been kind enough to post all the dates for the radio sessions they will be doing on tour(including Live on Tape from The World Cafe...am I the only one who thinks David Dye is the James Lipton of Public Radio? He works at a college station in Philly and he'd fairly old...maybe 50...anyway). I think maybe this would be a good cd tree after the tour. Perhaps Fegs could record the sessions and then someone could put them together and have a nice full length disc documenting the tour. Here is the link to the schedule: http://www.thesoftboys.com/news.html Just an Idea, Max _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:44:32 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Tonight's Opening Act? Is anyone opening for The Soft Boy's tonight? Thanks, Max _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 10:38:42 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Bush Baby & Beeegness cont'd James: >>Is a large part of Dubya's single-minded obsession with Iraq due to a feeling that >>he must right a >>family wrong? How much talk has their been of the Bushbaby >>(a) 'finishing the job for daddy' or >>(b) trying to prove that he's a better >>president than daddy by getting it right this time? This is a given among the "US Left" (perhaps better known as the "US What's-Left-of-It"), and grist for late-night talk show monologues. So basically it makes for a good joke setup, but I'm not sure how many people seriously posit it. I pretty much do, myself. I think there would be more constructive debate about this whole inevitable war thing if it was couched honestly in the feudalistic terms it actually reflects. "He brought dishonor upon my house and we shall have vengeance!" But there you go. Ain't that America. _____________ Jeffrey FF: >>I will insist that an album with ten excellent songs is a much better album than an album with >>those ten excellent songs and ten more crappy ones. Yeah, eventually you can find those ten >>songs and program your player to ignore the crappy ones (---) it takes much more effort to find >>the words. Jeffrey's summed up my take on this subject as well as anyone. I'm always amazed when I hear people talk about an album and say "I always skip that track"... I haven't actively done that for years. Maybe most folks have more time and fewer albums than me, but I pretty much have to let it roll, out of a combination of imagined respect for the "artist's vision" and just-plain-can't-be-arsed-to-figure-out-where-baby-hid-the-remote. And thus if the good: crap ratio tilts too far, I probably won't listen to the whole thing that often. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:53:28 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: Chicago show moved from Metro to The Double Door >To: robynhitchcock@yahoogroups.com >From: "rgilroy_jr" >Delivered-To: mailing list robynhitchcock@yahoogroups.com >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:53:26 -0000 >Subject: [robynhitchcock] Chicago show moved from Metro >Reply-To: robynhitchcock@yahoogroups.com > > >Monday, October 28 >THE SOFT BOYS >THE LONESOME ORGANIST >This show has been moved to Double Door >Metro tickets will be honored at Double Door. >http://www.doubledoor.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:54:37 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Tonight's Opening Act? Max: >Is anyone opening for The Soft Boy's tonight? You are psyched up, arent you:-) I think its Departure Lounge? I hope we get to Hoboken in time for the Mongolian reastraunt. I have never been to a Mongolian reastraunt before. It just sounds so ... exotic. Has anyone eaten there or know what the cuisine tastes like? Kay, aka tapers worse nightmare! "I think it's nice when old things can still move around." Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:56:57 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Tonight's Opening Act? On Fri, Oct 25, 2002, Montauk Daisy wrote: > I hope we get to Hoboken in time for the Mongolian reastraunt. I have never > been to a Mongolian reastraunt before. It just sounds so ... exotic. Has > anyone eaten there or know what the cuisine tastes like? Mongolian food is great. It is definitely exotic. They have a sort of huge room / feaux jungle in the back. You eat whatever you can catch and kill. That is how Mongolian food is known for such freshness. Tonight I'm planning on diving into the pool and getting some shark. Hope to see you there! - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:04:23 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Tonight's Opening Act? >From: "Montauk Daisy" >Subject: Tonight's Opening Act? >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:54:37 +0000 > >Max: >>Is anyone opening for The Soft Boy's tonight? > >You are psyched up, arent you:-) I think its Departure Lounge? Yes I am very much so. It may be them but the D.L. website does not list this show: http://www.departureloungemusic.com/live.html Max _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 18:13:02 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Re:Ken the wise-acre;-) Ken: >Mongolian food is great. It is definitely exotic. They have a sort of >huge room / feaux jungle in the back. You eat whatever you can > catch and kill. That is how Mongolian food is known for such freshness. > Tonight I'm planning on diving into the pool and getting > some shark. Really, oh wow, super neato! I never knew there were jungles in Mongolia. I'll have to sharpen my fangs. Wheres Randi when we need her? Or Rubbershark? BTP-Is Departure Lounge the opening act? Kay "I think it's nice when old things can still move around." Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month. Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:35:13 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: reap senator paul wellstone, democrat from minnesota let the conspiracy theories begin... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:53:25 EDT From: Randallriebe@aol.com Subject: Re: reap Kind of liberal for my old bones, but was a great guy. I did some work for him back in Minnesota. His family are reap too. Major bummer. Vince (lets put Oliver Stone on the case) the Vincester. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 13:59:33 -0500 From: "chain-wallet bitch" Subject: Re: Mpls 10/29 Hi! Any Mpls fegs planning on recording the Mpls show 10/29? I'm hoping to do it myself, if I can get down there early enough, as it's an early show. It's my understanding that Robyn has no issues with this sort of thing, but if this has been covered here in the past, I missed it. Anything I need to know? ____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB of email storage with Lycos Mail Plus! Sign up today -- http://www.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:34:40 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Mpls 10/29 On Fri, Oct 25, 2002, chain-wallet bitch wrote: > Hi! Any Mpls fegs planning on recording the Mpls show 10/29? I'm > hoping to do it myself, if I can get down there early enough, as > it's an early show. It's my understanding that Robyn has no issues > with this sort of thing, but if this has been covered here in the > past, I missed it. Anything I need to know? Being from NY, I won't be there, but please give the opening band "The Standard" a chance. Gail, the guitarist, is a very good old friend of mine. I just heard them for the first time on Monday night (at the Mercury Lounge coincidentally), and here's the deal: they are actually pretty good as long as you don't look at the singer. Trust me on this one. Watch either Gail or the drummer or the bassist, but at all costs, do not look at the singer. Oh, and buy Gail a beer if you want. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 12:41:47 -0700 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: Mpls 10/29 Also if you have a chance, don't listen to the singer either! I have seen them open for a few bands out here and after the first time I always have to leave the building. The music isn't band but the lyrics and voice ouch! - -----Original Message----- From: Ken Weingold [mailto:hazmat@hellrot.org] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 12:35 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Mpls 10/29 On Fri, Oct 25, 2002, chain-wallet bitch wrote: > Hi! Any Mpls fegs planning on recording the Mpls show 10/29? I'm > hoping to do it myself, if I can get down there early enough, as > it's an early show. It's my understanding that Robyn has no issues > with this sort of thing, but if this has been covered here in the > past, I missed it. Anything I need to know? Being from NY, I won't be there, but please give the opening band "The Standard" a chance. Gail, the guitarist, is a very good old friend of mine. I just heard them for the first time on Monday night (at the Mercury Lounge coincidentally), and here's the deal: they are actually pretty good as long as you don't look at the singer. Trust me on this one. Watch either Gail or the drummer or the bassist, but at all costs, do not look at the singer. Oh, and buy Gail a beer if you want. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:00:15 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: risky business go out and see michael moore's new documentary 'bowling for columbine'. it is funny, sad, hopeful, and sobering. >Is a large part of Dubya's single-minded obsession with Iraq due to a >feeling that he must right a family wrong? How much talk has their been of >the Bushbaby (a) 'finishing the job for daddy' or (b) trying to prove that >he's a better president than daddy by getting it right this time? everyone asked "why?" way back when we didn't finish the job. why is it that the u.s. didn't support the uprising that occured in iraq immediately following the gulf war? i suspect that our administration feared that a populist islamic government like the one in iran might take over; but the fact remains that we left these people hanging and when saddam regained control, tens of thousands were massacred. yeah, we'll get it right this time. with general tommy running the show after we oust saddam. we can't trust those folks to govern themselves. they may want some of the benefit of their own natural resources. > So how about using the same shock-value tactics the administration uses > in the drug war to confront the public with the ultimate - and much > more linearly linked - consequences of their energy wastefulness? that hits a little too close to home. nothing is more symbolic of this problem than the suburban utility vehicle. why is it that these gas guzzling behemoths are advertised more than anything else on television? why is it that they are exempt from federal guidlines requiring fuel efficiency standards? and why does the idea of drilling in the artic national wildlife refuge keep getting touted as the answer to all of our oil problems? regime change does begin at home. if neighborhoods could band together and setup their own sustainable power plants; that could change the world one neigborhood at a time. god forbid we put any tax money toward this. oh yeah, and did anyone notice how quickly we were able to get money out to d.c. area schools for security; yet we cannot seem to fund them properly otherwise? >I mostly live off compilation >tapes & disks. i used to do a lot of this because it was the only way to get my songs played among my friends. you had to throw in 'so you think you're in love' between a couple of songs that people knew. i think i'll be getting back into this to expose my wife to new music. >I think it's cute that Nextdoorland is about an >lp long, since it is partially aimed at older >listeners. I've almost gotten up to flip the >record after "Mind is Connected." now that makes sense. ken "you know you're right" the kenster np mellow gold beck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 16:02:19 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Mpls 10/29 Well I was gonna mention that too, but his voice got slightly better (and I mean slightly) when I stopped looking at him. I think he wishes he were Ian Curtis or something. - -Ken On Fri, Oct 25, 2002, Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc) wrote: > Also if you have a chance, don't listen to the singer either! I have > seen them open for a few bands out here and after the first time I > always have to leave the building. The music isn't band but the lyrics > and voice ouch! > > -----Original Message----- >From: Ken Weingold [mailto:hazmat@hellrot.org] > Being from NY, I won't be there, but please give the opening band > "The Standard" a chance. Gail, the guitarist, is a very good old > friend of mine. I just heard them for the first time on Monday night > (at the Mercury Lounge coincidentally), and here's the deal: they are > actually pretty good as long as you don't look at the singer. Trust > me on this one. Watch either Gail or the drummer or the bassist, but > at all costs, do not look at the singer. Oh, and buy Gail a beer if > you want. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:21:00 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Bush Baby & Beeegness cont'd At 10:38 AM 10/25/2002 -0700, Rex.Broome wrote: >James: >>>Is a large part of Dubya's single-minded obsession with Iraq due to a >feeling that >>he must right a >>family wrong? How much talk has their been >of the Bushbaby >>(a) 'finishing the job for daddy' or >>(b) trying to prove >that he's a better >>>president than daddy by getting it right this time? > >This is a given among the "US Left" (perhaps better known as the "US >What's-Left-of-It"), and grist for late-night talk show monologues. So >basically it makes for a good joke setup, but I'm not sure how many people >seriously posit it. Or to take the flip side, and to address what James was, I think, really asking: if your media diet consists of the American media mainstream (network news & news-oriented talk shows, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News, chain-owned papers), you're not hearing this angle much at all. Or you can't hear the 1 out of 25 stories that even consider it, because of the war drums beating so hard in the other 24. >I'm always >amazed when I hear people talk about an album and say "I always skip that >track"... I haven't actively done that for years. Maybe most folks have >more time and fewer albums than me, but I pretty much have to let it roll, >out of a combination of imagined respect for the "artist's vision" and >just-plain-can't-be-arsed-to-figure-out-where-baby-hid-the-remote. And thus >if the good: crap ratio tilts too far, I probably won't listen to the whole >thing that often. Me too. Also, my CD players might as well not have a "random" button. It's always the whole album with me. We've had discussion of it here before, but it still amazes me that folks often consider the bonus tracks on CD reissues as part of the album. Granted that some of the Hitchcock and pre-2001-remaster XTC ones confusingly put some bonus tracks smack in the middle, but even then, I really can't think of "Winter Love," "Bones in the Ground," "Mellow Together," "I Used To Say I Love You," and "My Favourite Buildings" as part of I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS, much less the tracks tacked on at the end. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 15:50:05 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Mpls 10/29 chain-wallet bitch? ooh wow, i'm getting an erection. and don't say anything about your CB750, at least not right now. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 14:03:31 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Speaking of the Pistols... Monday marks the 25th Anniversary of "Never Mind The Bollocks" http://reuters.com/news_article.jhtml?type=entertainmentnews&StoryID=1632627 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 17:13:42 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: another reap Richard Harris at age 72. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #340 ********************************