From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #338 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 24 2002 Volume 11 : Number 338 Today's Subjects: ----------------- publish & bedazzled [dances with virgos ] bowery meetup ["melissa" ] Re: bowery meetup [Ken Weingold ] Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. ["Jason Brown (Echo Services In] Re: bowery meetup [Ken Weingold ] Maxwell's 10/25 ["Poole, R. Edward" ] Re: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. [Brian ] cashing in [drew ] Re: cashing in [Aaron Mandel ] Re: cashing in [drew ] Re: Big [Eb ] Re: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Wanna destroy Replacements.... [Mike Swedene ] RIP [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: RIP [] Side 3 / Strings [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:36:55 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: publish & bedazzled new news from robynhitchcock.com: Publish & Bedazzled, the fagazine of The Peter Cook Appreciation Society has recently published their 29th issue which contains a lengthy interview with Robyn about Cook. The interview covers a range of topics from British social history to the laws of comedy physics to the long term effects on Peter Cook of being raised by insects. Issue 29 of Publish & Bedazzled is available from The Peter Cook Appreciation Society, 64 Pitchford Street, London E14 6RX for three UK pounds (a four-issue subscription is eight UK pounds for UK residents or ten UK pounds for those in the rest of the world). For further information visit www.stabbers.org or email clinty@stabbers.org. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:02:59 -0000 From: "melissa" Subject: bowery meetup I'd be interested if folks are meeting up beforehand. I'm not exactly sure when i'll hit nyc because i'm going to be taking the train in from trenton or somewhere around there. not sure if i'll have access to email after thurs evening but please email me anyway if there are plans to meet. also nyc fegs do any of you all know if the subway is still a pain near the bowery ballroom? thanks Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:09:03 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: bowery meetup On Wed, Oct 23, 2002, melissa wrote: > also nyc fegs do any of you all know if the subway is still a pain > near the bowery ballroom? It's fine. Take the F to Delancey St., which drops you out pretty much right in front of it. Also, you can take the J, M, and/or Z to Essex St., which is the same station. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:11:00 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. Village Voice NDL review: Actually, it was also nice to read something about the Primal Scream record, although I myself would never in a million years have drawn any parallels between Hitchcock & Gillespie. Hmmm. Didn't know about the new Banshees comp, but I've been confused by this "another, lamer best-of" practice since that superfluous yellow Joy Division comp came into existence in the early '90's. Who are these records for? Speaking of Best of's, though, while rooting around for replacements to my soggy discs, I found the A&M "Best of Robyn" selling for about $40 and listed as "ultra-rare"... is it really? Was it just underprinted or what? Guess I'll just have to count on steam-pressing the artwork for that one and hope it works... _____________ Oh, also, waiting around for in a grocery store for a prescription to be filled, I ended up leafing through the "Women in Rock" issue of Rolling Stone and saw that, in their review of the new Negro Problem album, they referred to it as pyschedelic pop (or something) "in the tradition of Robyn Hitchcock and XTC". Not sure I agree, particularly on this album, but hey, at least they meant it as a compliment, and I feel a little more justified in recommending TNP to the list. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:17:46 -0400 From: Mary Subject: Re: bowery meetup At 03:09 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, Ken Weingold wrote: >On Wed, Oct 23, 2002, melissa wrote: > > also nyc fegs do any of you all know if the subway is still a pain > > near the bowery ballroom? > >It's fine. Take the F to Delancey St., which drops you out pretty >much right in front of it. Also, you can take the J, M, and/or Z to >Essex St., which is the same station. Actually, it's the Bowery St. J M Z stop that's right in front of the venue. If you take the F train, stop at either 2nd Avenue (at Houston) and walk south to Delancey, or stop at Delancey and walk west to Bowery. Both F stops seem to be about the same distance from the venue, although I think the 2nd Avenue might be a bit closer. s.Mary np - Boards of Canada "Music Has the Right to Children" >-Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:21:35 -0700 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: RE: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. Rex wrote: > Speaking of Best of's, though, while rooting around for replacements to my > soggy discs, I found the A&M "Best of Robyn" selling for about $40 and > listed as "ultra-rare"... is it really? Was it just underprinted or what? > Guess I'll just have to count on steam-pressing the artwork for that one > and hope it works... This whole water damaged discs things has me puzzled. The discs themselves play fine. But the CD inserts and booklets are fucked up? And you are replacing them? Why? For collector reasons? I've had similar accidents with smaller portions of my collection but I have just lefty the packaging in a messed up condition. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 15:34:58 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: bowery meetup On Wed, Oct 23, 2002, Mary wrote: > >It's fine. Take the F to Delancey St., which drops you out pretty > >much right in front of it. Also, you can take the J, M, and/or Z to > >Essex St., which is the same station. > > Actually, it's the Bowery St. J M Z stop that's right in front of the > venue. If you take the F train, stop at either 2nd Avenue (at Houston) and > walk south to Delancey, or stop at Delancey and walk west to Bowery. Both F > stops seem to be about the same distance from the venue, although I think > the 2nd Avenue might be a bit closer. Oh, you're right about the Bowery St. station being in front. But the Delancey St. and Essex St. stations are the same. So yeah, I guess the 2nd Ave. station is a bit closer to the venue. Thanks. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:07:08 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: Maxwell's 10/25 As (bad) luck would have it, my wife won't be able to go to the 10/25 Maxwell's show with me, so I have an extra ticket. Anyone need one? Also, anyone from the DC area planning on the roadtrip? I haven't decided on my preferred transportation, though I'll probably end up driving (the train coming home at that hour doesn't sound too appealing, but I don't want to stay over Friday night either). So, if you want a ticket & want a ride from the DC area, let me know (pretty soon though). Suggestions for the best way to get to Maxwell's from here -- and the time I'd need to leave in order to get there in time -- would be a plus. - -ed ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. If you are not the intended recipient or person responsible for delivering this confidential communication to the intended recipient, you have received this communication in error, and any review, use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, copying, or other distribution of this e-mail message and any attached files is strictly prohibited. If you have received this confidential communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail message and permanently delete the original message. To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 16:22:02 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. At Wednesday, 23 October 2002, Rex wrote: >Oh, also, waiting around for in a grocery store for a prescription to be >filled, I ended up leafing through the "Women in Rock" issue of Rolling >Stone and saw that, in their review of the new Negro Problem album, they >referred to it as pyschedelic pop (or something) "in the tradition of Robyn >Hitchcock and XTC". Not sure I agree, particularly on this album, but hey, >at least they meant it as a compliment, and I feel a little more justified >in recommending TNP to the list. > >-Rex Why was the Negro Problem in the "Women in Rock" issue? Anyway, I had a chance to listen to some of the Negro Problem I recently aquired (thanks, Rex!), and let me tell you: I like it! I'm not sure how to describe them. I was thinking more a mix between XTC and Pere Ubu (although I know little of Pere Ubu). This guy Stew has a great voice and comes up with some great lyrics. Not to mention some great female/harmonies in the background -which I'm a total sucker for. Good stuff. I'll probably pick up their 2nd album. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:10:10 -0700 From: drew Subject: cashing in >From: Ken Weingold >[new Siouxsie Best of] >I didn't even know there was yet another compilation out. As much as >I love the Banshees, I don't think I need this. I have the albums, >and was never a big fan of the remixes. Any other reason I should >have it? I'm not planning to buy it. There appears to be one new song, "Dizzy," which I seem to recall being the only song on the CD booklet they were selling on the last tour, and which was nice but nothing essential. I forget what's on the second disc, but I think it's just remixes. As far as the rest of the tracks go, I think less than half of them would go on MY best of Siouxsie compilation. It's kind of a sad cash-in, I think, though I do like the packaging. Speaking of non-goth goth bands, I saw Rasputina last night. It was a lot of fun. She played some of my least favorite songs from the mixed-bag new album, but she also played some terrific covers, including "Brand New Key" from the first album but also "Rock 'n' Roll" (Led Zep), "Wish You Were Here" (Floyd), "Fire and Ice" (Pat Benatar?!) and, of all things, "Bad Moon Rising." How she managed to make all of those songs sound not only not like a joke but even rockin'-out using only two cellos and a drummer is beyond me. Oh, and apparently the "My Fever Broke" EP has a Belle and Sebastian cover ("Fox in the Snow") on it. I didn't buy it because the rest is remixes and album tracks, but I sure do wanna hear that cover. >From: Jeff Dwarf > >I'm just annoyed that -- again, just like TUAT -- they aren't including >"Song From the Edge of the World." Which I've never even heard! > I know that it would have put TUAT >over 80 minutes, but how about cutting one of the tracks that was >already available on an album rather than a stand-apart single? Yeah, no kidding. Nice to see "Israel" on there, though, which has always been perhaps my favorite Siouxsie song for some reason. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:38:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: cashing in On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, drew wrote: > She played some of my least > favorite songs from the mixed-bag new album, but she > also played some terrific covers, including "Brand New Key" > from the first album but also "Rock 'n' Roll" (Led Zep), "Wish > You Were Here" (Floyd), "Fire and Ice" (Pat Benatar?!) and, > of all things, "Bad Moon Rising." Yeah, the Rasputina covers EP is my favorite thing by them -- made me actually go out and buy Cabin Fever instead of waiting for a $4 promo copy to turn up 'used', which is how I had acquired all my Rasputina until that point. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:49:48 -0700 From: drew Subject: Re: cashing in At 05:38 PM 10/23/2002 -0400, you wrote: > Yeah, the Rasputina covers EP is my favorite thing by them -- made me > actually go out and buy Cabin Fever instead of waiting for a $4 promo copy > to turn up 'used', which is how I had acquired all my Rasputina until that > point. Oops -- and of course Cabin Fever is the only full-length without any covers on it! I actually love Rasputina out of proportion to the quality of their albums, I think. All of them have tracks I consistently skip, but the best tracks are so incredible I forget about the bad ones. It's a little harder to do with Cabin Fever, on which I still only like about half the tracks. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 14:50:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: Big >From: "Bachman, Michael" > >Nobody has mentioned my favorite dual album yet, or >my second favorite. So here goes, #1 Layla and other >Assorted Love Songs by Derek and the Dominoes. And >#2 Live at the Fillmore East by The Allman Brothers. But...the issue wasn't "favorite" long albums, but long albums which get overpraised based on their imposing size. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:10:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Mysterious, extraneous best-of's etc. On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Brian wrote: > Why was the Negro Problem in the "Women in Rock" issue? Errrr, Heidi Rodewald? Another "women in rock" issue?!? I wish those old farts at RS would up and die - what a non-idea. Music's music...that sort of ghettoization is exactly why Stew calls his band "The Negro Problem"... > Anyway, I had a chance to listen to some of the Negro Problem I recently > aquired (thanks, Rex!), and let me tell you: I like it! I'm not sure > how to describe them. I was thinking more a mix between XTC and Pere > Ubu (although I know little of Pere Ubu). This guy Stew has a great > voice and comes up with some great lyrics. Not to mention some great > female/harmonies in the background -which I'm a total sucker for. I can sorta see the XTC thing - very clever both lyrically & musically - but the big influence not mentioned yet is '60s sophisto-pop: Jimmy Webb, Burt Bacharach, etc. I kinda like _Post-Minstrel Syndrome_ better than _Joys & Concerns_, but I haven't heard the new one yet. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::I feel that all movies should have things that happen in them:: __TV's Frank__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:12:35 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: book smart, street stupid >but hey, I'm not, so I've gotta buy >most records, which means someone's gotta decide, hmmm, will this thing >sell if there's a twenty-minute track of echo-chambered snoring midway >through, or not? it didn't. And it still han't been release on CD. James (it's an ill omen when your goldfish commits suicide) np - "Don't try this at home" - probably my favourite "underrated big album". James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 21:12:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: never once thought otherwise and soccer Michael wrote: Okay, immensely enjoying the 10-18-02 BBC songs (thx to woj, et al who got them put up!) when I hear, clear as day: "cottages full of eternal men / all seeking a dream in the old erection." There's not even a little pretense, like it's "ol' direction" or something. The only time that I get to listen to anything these days is while I'm huffing and puffing on my treadmill, and for that I wear headphones. Recently I've been listening to Nextdoor Land a lot, and there is no question that he is singing 'old erection.' Oh, but we (the family) did listen to it on the way to one of our countless weekend soccer games, and when Robyn sings "Looking for the holy grail," my 10-year-old daughter chimed in, "Yeah, aren't we all." Speaking of soccer (this is for Sebastian and Michael Wells, I think), we went to the MLS championship game on Sunday and had FIRST ROW SEATS! And, this is definitely for Sebastian, we got to me Landon Donovan (he was there representing the World Cup Team) - my kids were over the moon. Even though the NE Revolution lost, it was a thrilling game, my kids were apparently on TV twice (as many schoolmates have told them), and we got to eat junk food ALL DAY LONG. Jill, all doritoed out and bloated like a pufferfish ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 23:21:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Wanna destroy Replacements.... For those of you who may have not heard it, or were looking for it: I came across the Replacements "cover" of the Soft Boys 'classic' (shudder to use that term) "I wanna destroy you" Live Soft Boys cover at the 7th Street Entry - 7/1/85 http://www.wwwebworld.com/mp3/mats.htm For those looking for more... Herbie np -> "rabbit Train" Robyn ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 08:06:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RIP Elephant 6 Is Dead-- Long Live Elephant 6 Schneider jersey retired; Mangum bong shipped to Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/02-10/22.shtml ===== "If we don't allow journalists, politicians, and every two-bit Joe Schmo with a cause to grandstand by using 9-11 as a lame rhetorical device, then the terrorists have already won." -- "Shredder" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:29:56 -0400 From: Subject: Re: RIP Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Elephant 6 Is Dead-- Long Live Elephant 6 > http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/news/02-10/22.shtml I actually read that story while we were waiting for The Apples In Stereo to open in Toronto. If you read the source of much of this, it's just basically that the E6 logo isn't going to be used any more: http://www.amnesiaent.com/e6townhall/viewthread.php?tid=1311 Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 11:38:21 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Side 3 / Strings Finally listened to _Side 3_ last night. I like "Narcissus" (what's a "long boy"? Or am I getting the lyric wrong...). "Disconnection of the Ruling Class" sounds great, especially the vocal arrangement on the chorus. What I found odd was how much "Om" sounds like "Strings". The arrangement isn't as sinister, but it moves along in the same pattern. And speaking of "Strings", I don't think anyone has mentioned that the "I wish that I was just paranoid" line is sung over the riff from "Anarchy in The U.K." Coincidence? Homage? Plea? Really psyched about this tour, - -tc ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #338 ********************************