From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #335 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 21 2002 Volume 11 : Number 335 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: if you believe they put a man on the moon (magic) [Michael R Godwin <] Re: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist [dances with virgos ] Re: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist [dances with virgos ] Re: Chicago Fegfest [Brian ] Re: Side 3 ["Kenneth Johnson" ] Re: Side 3 [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Friday's Hoboken show. [Ken Weingold ] Re: Fwd: The Soft Boys 10/27 moved! [Ken Weingold ] Re: magic [gSs ] Re: magic ["matt sewell" ] 18129 [] Really bad day: Robyn Hitchcock (mostly) destroyed ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Friday's Hoboken show. [Ken Weingold ] Galaxie 500 ["Rex.Broome" ] RE: Friday's Hoboken show. ["Timothy Reed" ] Re: Friday's Hoboken show. [Ken Weingold ] Re: Fwd: The Soft Boys 10/27 moved! [dances with virgos ] Re: magic ["Jonathan Fetter" ] it's like a plague [gSs ] Re: Friday's Hoboken show. ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: end up a wreck [Ken Ostrander ] Re: 18129 ["Maximilian Lang" ] NDL/Funeral music/Eh? [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] bowery ["melissa" ] Re: bowery [Christopher Gross ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:52:58 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: if you believe they put a man on the moon (magic) On Fri, 18 Oct 2002, ross taylor wrote: > I also vaguely remember that four-way graph Godwin mentioned -- it > might have come from "Magic, Science and Religion" by Malinowski, > where he says among other things that magic is to religion as > technology is to science. But that was back in the 1920s, long before > the structuralists. That's the one! Brilliant, Ross. I think anthropologists always had structuralist leanings even before it was invented - all those cross-cousin marriage diagrams and so forth. The last (indeed, only) structuralist book I read was 'Totemism' by Levi-Strauss, before he went into the rag trade :) . - - MRG n.p. Pilot "Ooh it's magic" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:50:33 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist when we last left our heroes, Rob exclaimed: >The following tracks were played on Andy Kershaw's show on 18th Oct >2002: damn, i spaced on this. anybody get a good recording? or capture the bbc's stream? woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:06:00 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist > when we last left our heroes, Rob exclaimed: > >The following tracks were played on Andy Kershaw's show on 18th Oct > >2002: On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, dances with virgos wrote: > damn, i spaced on this. anybody get a good recording? or capture the bbc's > stream? The whole show is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/andykershaw.shtml for the next few days. Does somebody have the technology to grab these songs? - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:30:33 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist when we last left our heroes, Michael R Godwin exclaimed: >The whole show is at >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/world/andykershaw.shtml >for the next few days. ah, cool! >Does somebody have the technology to grab these songs? yup, will do. though i hope someone has a better source than cruddy realaudio 8. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:38:01 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: Chicago Fegfest Paging Michael Bachman. Please contact me privately. Thanks, Brian Nupp At Sunday, 6 October 2002, M. Wells wrote: >They're coming...Robyn, Kimberley, Matthew and Morris: "The Four Horsemen of >the Apocryphal." > >And since it looks like we already have enough interested souls, I would like >to openly invite all who will be in town early for the SB's Chicago show to an >afternoon of light revelry, food grazing, and meeting of thy fellow feg at my >place on Sunday, October 28th at noon. Weather not gauranteed. Footballs >provided. And no costumes, unless it's a really good one. > >Thanks to those who have already made plans to come. I live about 40 miles WSW >of the city proper - write me offlist for directions. > >Michael "there'll be no nude Twister, sorry" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:34:32 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: Side 3 is anyone else perturbed, even a little, by Robyn and the boys and/or the record company for releasing side 3 and vinyl outtakes when all the material should make up one album, one release. charging $15 for a 10-track cd and a further $12 for 6 extras?? why not one cd with all the tracks for $15? At least with the vinyl outtakes on Mossy and the cd release Bram, you got a full 12 tracks in addition to the novelty for your extra money. With this last release though, it's like paying $27 or so for one full length cd. Isn't there a better way his loyal fanbase can keep Robyn instyling shirts and cartoon pants? Kenneth ************************************ "Reconsider your definitions. We are prone to judge success by the index of our salaries or the size of our automobiles rather than by the quality of our service and relationship to mankind." --Martin Luther King Jr. ************************************* >From: "Marc Holden" >Reply-To: "Marc Holden" >To: , "fegmaniax" >Subject: Side 3 >Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 00:39:33 -0700 > >Side 3 came in the mail today. I had a chance to listen to it a couple of >times in the car this evening. I really like the full band version of Each >of Her Silver Wands, but prefer how Om sounded when Robyn played it solo at >Amoeba Records earlier this year. All the tracks from Nextdoorland, >including the vinyl bonus tracks and Side 3 fit nicely onto one CDR--which >is kind of cool for convenience (of course, more music would have been >nice, >too). These should be some great shows coming up. Later, Marc > >"Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer. But imprisonment turns >the state into a gay dungeon-master." Emo Philips _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:55:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Side 3 On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Kenneth Johnson wrote: > is anyone else perturbed, even a little, by Robyn and the boys and/or the > record company for releasing side 3 and vinyl outtakes when all the material > should make up one album, one release. charging $15 for a 10-track cd and a > further $12 for 6 extras?? why not one cd with all the tracks for $15? At > least with the vinyl outtakes on Mossy and the cd release Bram, you got a > full 12 tracks in addition to the novelty for your extra money. With this > last release though, it's like paying $27 or so for one full length cd. I haven't heard Side 3 yet (for all I know, it's in my mailbox right now - but I'm not at home), but it could be that, for various musical reasons, the band (or the label - don't forget them) felt the ten tracks on NDL would make a stronger album than would all sixteen tracks. Although, yeah, I'm tempted to just burn a CDR putting them all together, I'm already a fanatic. Matador - and the band, probably - is also interested in presenting the best possible listening experience to people who might not be intimately familiar w/Hitchcock's catalog. For that matter, I think it's generally a good thing that everyone isn't releasing seventy-minute CDs anymore. Despite the economics, I'd generally rather have two 35-minute CDs than one seventy. (Best option, actually: release as a two-CD set and, since the cost of the discs themselves is minuscule, charge about the same price. That way, the band can avoid listener fatigue...particularly if the second disc is billed as a bonus, or is available co-packaged only with the first X,000 copies, etc.) So it doesn't bother me. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::In terms of the conjunctures of cultures, [LA is] less like a salad bowl ::and more like a TV dinner with those little aluminium barriers keeping ::all the vegetables in their places. __Catherine Ann Driscoll__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:18:23 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Friday's Hoboken show. On Fri, Oct 18, 2002, Maximilian Lang wrote: > Friday is fast approaching, is it time to plan a dinner or something for > before the show? Hoboken has a few good/affordable restaurants, including > Maxwell's itself. Anyone up for getting together? Absolutely. I don't know Hoboken very well, so I'll leave it up to someone who knows it better to choose something. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:19:48 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Fwd: The Soft Boys 10/27 moved! So anyone know how tickets are selling? Bowery Ballroom is a lot bigger than the Mercury Lounge. I'd be afraid to see how packed it will be if they have sold a lot already. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:01:21 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: magic On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, James Dignan wrote: > Jason, Jeffrey, Greg, and Aaron seems intent on carrying on this ridiculous > discussion, so I shall humour them, but this is definitely reducing my > interest in the list. and here you go again. ya just can't let a good thread drop, even as you complain. actually the point I believe was to humor you. > agreed. It's all very simple. I said something th Greg, who foamed at the > mouth at his usual way. so then why are you finding it so difficult? if that was foaming you better stand clear when I get excited, it might get on you. > It being 2am, I made a flippant one line reply and > forgot the smily. Everyone jumped on me and - since it was by then 2am > again and I was drunk, I decided to try to reply. Never a good idea. ok, was it everyone or was it Greg? the discussion was actually started when you said you were offended by kids dressed in costumes asking for candy, if you will remember. > However, it seems it is largely a question of terminology. Hell, even when > I tried to pin 'science' down to something it's supposed to be I was > shunted off to 'philosophy'! terminology? it went from you being offended by children dressed in costumes to you defending "magik" or what the hell ever with statements like 'Magic is an attempt via the studying of the natural world to make sense of it, and to apply those things learned to enable changes within the world.' and this is a question of terminology? > I stand by the idea that the debate itself was moronic, thouggh. some people think wiccan or for that matter any celebrations involving some "thinning of the veil" between the spirit world and this world deserves to be ridiculed along with any such beliefs in prayer, ritual, spiritual servitude between us here on earth and "godly" things not of this world which are as ridiculous but not any more so than the beliefs from some of those "new" religions like christianity, islam, etc... it's like you are trying to justify a misunderstanding or misclassification by saying it could be true, to which I disagree. the older the misunderstanding the more it deserves correction and the older the religion the more it deserves ridicule. misundertandings and ingnorance and their overwhelming support, insistance and finally protuberance from the "learned" is what has lead to all religions and you know where the religions have taken us. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:09:34 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: magic I had promised myself I wouldn't get involved in this thread, but must just say that Captain Beefheart says "Gimme that old-time religion", and I must say I'm inclined to agree... Matt "Samhain is my birthday" Sewell >From: gSs >some people think wiccan or for that matter any celebrations involving >some "thinning of the veil" between the spirit world and this world >deserves to be ridiculed along with any such beliefs in prayer, ritual, >spiritual servitude between us here on earth and "godly" things not of >this world which are as ridiculous but not any more so than the beliefs >from some of those "new" religions like christianity, islam, etc... it's >like you are trying to justify a misunderstanding or misclassification by >saying it could be true, to which I disagree. the older the >misunderstanding the more it deserves correction and the older the >religion the more it deserves ridicule. misundertandings and ingnorance >and their overwhelming support, insistance and finally protuberance from >the "learned" is what has lead to all religions and you know where the >religions have taken us. > > >gSs - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:19:44 -0400 From: Subject: 18129 Robyn is 18129 days old today. I think that calls for a celebration, don't you? By some strange coincidence, he was 18000 days old on my mum's birthday this year. I think that says something. How old are you? Find out here: http://www3.sympatico.ca/scruss/1000days.html Stewart [learning javascript to fend off boredom.] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:20:09 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Really bad day: Robyn Hitchcock (mostly) destroyed So... Woke up Saturday morning to discover that almost my whole "H" section of CD's had been inundated at some point in the recent past which what I hope was water. So far from what I've checked, the discs themselves seem to play (plus a lot of them reside permanently in the big carousel). The water seems to have leaked out very slowly and just seeped into the paper elements. But those paper elements (depending on their fibre types apparently) are messed up bigtime. Which means I've lost the artwork for, among others, all my Hendrix, all my Kristin Hersh, and, yes, PRETTY MUCH MY ENTIRE ROBYN HITCHCOCK COLLECTION, which just happens to contain more rare/out-of-print/practically nonexistent material than practically any other corner of my libary. PJ Harvey and "Ho" and up were spared. I'm pretty depressed. HOW: I think that either me or my wife perched a plastic tumbler of water on top of the discs (the H section being about shoulder height) while shuttling the baby from room to room, and it was one of these cheap tumblers we recently bought that rapidly develeps hairline cracks and begins to-- not so much leak as-- seep imperceptibly. That's my best guess. So there are some where I might be able to iron out the wrinkles, but the ones with the dense booklets full of text are screwed. Pages stuck together, tears, etc. Also the old stuff... like the A&M Robyn discs, where bits of the printing on the booklets adhered to the jewel case and stayed there when I tried to take them out. Damn damn damn. Plus I always though it was stupid that my Hendrix reissues came with adhesive postage stamps in the booklets, but I now find it downright evil. Thanks to recent correspondance with Brian Nupp, my Richard Hell stuff was not on the shelf at the time and was spared. Oh, except for the EP that was actually autographed by Hell. With a water-soluble marker. Damn damn damn damn damn! (But thanks, Brian!) ____________ SO: Did the rounds at local used record shops and replaced some of the worst-damaged discs for cheap. Drop in the bucket, really, but I scored: - - Eye (which I unknowingly upgraded from my Twin Tone version the the Rhino) - - Globe of Frogs (surprisingly) - - Perspex Island ($4.99) - - Storefront Hitchcock ($4.99) - - Jewels 4 Sophia ($5.99) plus Hindu Love Gods. Ah, what a pain. Some of this stuff I'll never find again so I gotta hope I can rehabilitate it. Anybody have extra copies of, like, the Rhino reissues that they'd trade me for my soggy copies and, like, something else? Blehh. On the upside, I carved a Jack O'Lantern with my daughter on Sunday and that was way fun. Sad Rex. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:21:19 -0400 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: Friday's Hoboken show. I'm in. I vaguely know Hoboken enough to know that Johnny Rockets is on the way to Maxwell's. Other than that I'm clueless. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Ken Weingold > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 11:18 AM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Friday's Hoboken show. > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2002, Maximilian Lang wrote: > > Friday is fast approaching, is it time to plan a dinner or > something > > for > > before the show? Hoboken has a few good/affordable > restaurants, including > > Maxwell's itself. Anyone up for getting together? > > Absolutely. I don't know Hoboken very well, so I'll leave it > up to someone who knows it better to choose something. > > > -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:24:55 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Friday's Hoboken show. On Mon, Oct 21, 2002, Timothy Reed wrote: > I'm in. I vaguely know Hoboken enough to know that Johnny Rockets is on > the way to Maxwell's. Other than that I'm clueless. Eeewww, they have a Johnny Rockets in Hoboken now? It really IS as yuppified as I had heard. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:29:18 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Galaxie 500 But on to other stuff. Michael B: >>The extra musicians in Luna really make them a better band than the Galaxie 500 >>trio. I dunno if I agree with that! It took me a while to warm up to Luna because I so missed that spooky Galaxie 500 sound. But I really liked Galaxie 500, so there's my prejudice. I love Luna more and more with each record these days. And... Hey, it's Blatzman! You sure about that "tird" you got there? Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:40:10 -0400 From: "Timothy Reed" Subject: RE: Friday's Hoboken show. Johnny Rockets has been in Hoboken for about 5 years, I think. Is Johnny Rockets the Eddie Bauer of cheeseburgers? It didn't seem so to me, though I've only been to the ones in Hoboken and Tokyo. Everyone looked like working stiffs to me: cops, fat guys, big-haired joisey girls. Someone should tell them. Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Ken Weingold > Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:25 PM > To: fegmaniax@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Friday's Hoboken show. > > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2002, Timothy Reed wrote: > > I'm in. I vaguely know Hoboken enough to know that Johnny > Rockets is > > on the way to Maxwell's. Other than that I'm clueless. > > Eeewww, they have a Johnny Rockets in Hoboken now? It really > IS as yuppified as I had heard. > > > -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:42:55 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Friday's Hoboken show. On Mon, Oct 21, 2002, Timothy Reed wrote: > Johnny Rockets has been in Hoboken for about 5 years, I think. Is > Johnny Rockets the Eddie Bauer of cheeseburgers? It didn't seem so to > me, though I've only been to the ones in Hoboken and Tokyo. Everyone > looked like working stiffs to me: cops, fat guys, big-haired joisey > girls. Someone should tell them. Shows the last time I was in Hoboken. I think it's been almost ten years. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 14:11:50 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: Re: Fwd: The Soft Boys 10/27 moved! when we last left our heroes, Ken Weingold exclaimed: >So anyone know how tickets are selling? Bowery Ballroom is a lot >bigger than the Mercury Lounge. which means that ticket sales must be slow for them to move the sunday to the merc. no hard data to prove that though. one wonders if they would have been better off booking a boston show on sunday...especially with the maxwell's gigs happening just across the hudson. >I'd be afraid to see how packed it will be if they have sold a lot already. well, they can't pack it anymore than it was for the "secret" queen elvis show back in 1998. that was pretty full-up. woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 16:11:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: magic Does that go "We will dance llike those old druids, they drank fermented fluids dancing naked in the wo-ods and that's good enough for me"? On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:09:34 +0100, "matt sewell" wrote : > I had promised myself I wouldn't get involved in this thread, but must > just say that Captain Beefheart says "Gimme that old-time religion", and > I must say I'm inclined to agree... > > Matt "Samhain is my birthday" Sewell ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 15:43:55 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: it's like a plague Dumb Britons fail leaders' test LONDON, England -- One in 10 Britons cannot name a world leader, including their own, pointing to a nation "dumbing down," a survey says. Britons proved to be more switched on to television soap stars than politics, forcing Whitaker's, who commissioned the survey, to call for a new look at the way current affairs is presented in the UK. Eleven percent of Britons questioned could not name a single world leader, but nearly half can list five characters in the BBC soap hit EastEnders. http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/21/uk.dumbing/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:49:53 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Friday's Hoboken show. >From: Ken Weingold >Absolutely. I don't know Hoboken very well, so I'll leave it up to >someone who knows it better to choose something. > > >-Ken Well, aside from the establishment already mentioned I know of the following: Ali Ba Ba's which is middle eastern and Vegan friendly(about 2 blocks from Maxwell's), The Gobi Grille which is a Mongolian BBQ and also Vegan friendly(Better type of meal than BBQ makes it sound and is about 5 blocks away) and lastly Maxwell's itself which not suprisingly very close to Maxwell's and has very large portions. I am unsure of how Vegan friendly Maxwell's is. Perhaps Maxwell's would be the place to meet and then we could hammer it out from there as to where to eat or we can figure it out this week...the list is slow anyway why not fill it with food chat. Kathy and I will be getting there fairly early. We will pbobably leave Pennsauken aroung 3:30 or 4:00, it should take us about 2 1/4 hours to get there so 6ish is a safe bet for us(and our friend Frank...be nice to Frank, he is not a Feg but he makes good recordings). Max _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:04:37 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: end up a wreck >> > [Tori sounding like Kate] > >Besides which, when whoever it was heard that Tori Amos track, it had not >been an entire decade since the preceding Kate Bush album. Therefore, it >couldn't possibly have been a new Kate Bush song. um...didn't _red shoes_ come out the year before _under the pink_? anyhow, i'm a fan of both and i have to say that i understand completely why many people are confused. >>Good-to-great albums, but maybe overpraised >>just because they're so imposingly BEEEEEG. you forgot _sandanista!_. that was the first such album that i ever heard; and my first clash experience. our town library had a copy; so why not? sure, there's a bunch of songs (some of them just instrumental rubbish) just that don't quite measure up; but there was more than enough to create a fan. >Speaking of this...I finally heard the BEEEEEG, wildly acclaimed Bright Eyes album today, and was thoroughly underwhelmed. Another case in point. > >Terrible voice. Just *terrible*. Ranges from mediocre to utterly tuneless. And his phrasing can be equally tuneless, since he often packs so many syllables into one line that it loses all its sense of rhythm/pace. Meanwhile, he inserts all this pointless indie-rock shtick like bad tape edits, environmental noise, record static and the like. Just to be cooool. I ain't buying it. Miserable waif.... i'll admit that the first song with just him and his guitar is a pretty painful start; but it grows on you. there is an emotional warmth in his voice that reminds me of zimmerman. i think the rest of the album has much more to offer than "indie rock shtick". there are a lot of different textures and styles that work very well. 'bowl of oranges' (which i think is quite lovely) is my current favorite. >Speaking of amateurish indie-folk crud, please don't make the mistake of hearing the new solo albums from the two members of Moldy Peaches. the moldy peaches album makes me laugh and cringe, sometimes simultaneously. i wonder if things can get better or worse. i'm sure your reaction is what they're going for anyhow. ken "let's not shit ourselves" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 18:14:20 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: 18129 >From: >How old are you? Find out here: >http://www3.sympatico.ca/scruss/1000days.html > > Stewart >[learning javascript to fend off boredom.] 12568 today. I don't feel a day over 12550. Max _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:45:41 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: NDL/Funeral music/Eh? >Seeing Matthew with his Japanese wife made me wonder whether there's >strange subconscious concatenation of elements contributing to Japanese >Captain. The nationality of Seligman's wife, Seligman played with Bowie, >Bowie starred in Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence, Bowie's erm, strange, >relationship with commandant/'captain' Ryuichi Sakamoto in that film, the >Bowie-esque inflections Robyn employs in the song... hm. a peculiar theory. Remember that Robyn has contributed lyrics and vocals for the Captain - Sensible, that is. I don't think that's the reason for the title though. I love the double entendre of the lyric "I will kiss you somewhere that it's dark". As to NDL: "Sudden Town" is about the only song on it which sounds like 'old' Soft Boys to me - almost certainly because of that great guitar motif throughout the verse - although "I love Lucy" does sound a little to me like '...Sideways' forced into straight 4/4. The first half of the instrumental break in 'Strings' and the way the rhythm works against the vocals are also very SB touches. I love the lyrics of 'Sudden Town', too. My mind fills with images of de Chirico's paintings, and Dylan Thomas's images from 'Under Milk Wood'. And I don't think I've had 'La Cheriti' out of my brain for the last three days. The lyric "in my end is my beginning" is T S Eliot, BTW - although Monty Python's drama critic Mr Millarrrrrrr assigned it to F W Jack, ISTR. One song I don't recall anyone talking about is 'Lions and Tigers' (possibly th weakest song on the album). I wonder whether the inspiration for that came from the fact that Lions and Tigers, skeletally at least, are the same animal. If we were presented with fossilised remains of lions and tigers, they would be considered to be the same species. It is the surface markings and behaviour that makes them different. oh, and I don't recall anyone posting this mainly positive review (apologies if they did and I missed it): >I love Fortunate Son - I'm so glad I missed the ad in question. In fact, I >told my wife I want it played at my funeral. Has anyone else started >preparing a set list for their own funeral? (I'm sure this has been >discussed here before, no?) Eno's "Here he comes" is on the list for me. >I want to say to Stewart that the use of "eh" is indeed very >infectious. Most Canadians wouldn't know what you mean by the term >"taking the piss", though I happen to, but then I'm a bit of an >Anglophile. oddly, here in New Zealand 'eh?' is used to almost same extent by the Maori population (and the population of such parts of the North Island in particular that have been influenced by Maori linguistic patterns. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 22:59:54 -0000 From: "melissa" Subject: bowery anyone going to the satruday show at the bowery ballroom? melissa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 19:27:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: bowery On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, melissa wrote: > anyone going to the satruday show at the bowery ballroom? Me! I'll be there. (And probably other people will be too.) - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #335 ********************************