From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #334 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, October 21 2002 Volume 11 : Number 334 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: BEEEEEG [Eb ] bass [crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com] Re: PU/CCR (33% Breastfeeding Content) [Matt Yudt ] rectify your existence [drew ] Science and magic, eh? [barbara soutar ] Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist ["Rob" ] Re: Uh Oh [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 01:26:40 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Re: BEEEEEG >mewrote: >I think 69 Love Songs benefits from *another* crutch -- the >double/triple record syndrome. Always seems to me like certain albums >get casually labeled a band's "masterpiece," just because it's extra >long. I've probably been guilty of this, myself. Some possible >examples might be Bitches Brew, Something/Anything?, The Wall, Songs >in the Key of Life, Zen Arcade, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, The >Pod, English Settlement, Trout Mask Replica, Lolita Nation, Tommy, >Exile on Main Street, either Olivia Tremor Control album....maybe >even The White Album. Good-to-great albums, but maybe overpraised >just because they're so imposingly BEEEEEG. Speaking of this...I finally heard the BEEEEEG, wildly acclaimed Bright Eyes album today, and was thoroughly underwhelmed. Another case in point. Terrible voice. Just *terrible*. Ranges from mediocre to utterly tuneless. And his phrasing can be equally tuneless, since he often packs so many syllables into one line that it loses all its sense of rhythm/pace. Meanwhile, he inserts all this pointless indie-rock shtick like bad tape edits, environmental noise, record static and the like. Just to be cooool. I ain't buying it. Miserable waif.... I thought "Nothing Gets Crossed Out" was a real nice song. Right purty, in fact. The rest of the tracks, I don't care if I ever hear them again. I just grumbled more and more, as the album proceeded. Speaking of amateurish indie-folk crud, please don't make the mistake of hearing the new solo albums from the two members of Moldy Peaches. Lovably yours, Ebby ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 13:13:00 +0100 (BST) From: crowbar.joe@btopenworld.com Subject: bass I wrote! >Soft Boys content: Yup, the Boys were superb >at the Mean Fiddler (feels weird >calling it that, for me, the MF will be >forever Harlesden...). Organic, >powerful, nay magical. You could actually >hear Matthew's bass properly! Bumped into Matthew S @ Fulham v Man United football match yesterday. I mentioned to him that I thought the bass sound was good at the MF gig, and he said it might have been because he played quite a few of the songs with a pick, as he was making sure his fingers didn't get totally fucked up over the duration of the tour. He had originally played a lot of the old songs with a pick, as it was a 'punk' thing to do, then had reverted to playing with his fingers, but now he's back to playing with a plectrum on some tracks. He also mentioned that they have a very good sound-man in England who they are not taking to US, so Yankees beware! Seeing Matthew with his Japanese wife made me wonder whether there's strange subconscious concatenation of elements contributing to Japanese Captain. The nationality of Seligman's wife, Seligman played with Bowie, Bowie starred in Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence, Bowie's erm, strange, relationship with commandant/'captain' Ryuichi Sakamoto in that film, the Bowie-esque inflections Robyn employs in the song... ...all right, I'll get me coat... Crowbar Joe Coming soon: Isaac Newton's studies vis a vis the music of the spheres, the Dorian mode in relation to the mass of Saturn, and the interconnections to Robyn Hitchcock's music and lyrics, and their mutual search for The Philosopher's Stone...or something... Fulham have also signed one of the Japanese stars of the World Cup, Inamoto, but I rather doubt that had anything to do with Jap Cap... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 10:38:41 -0400 From: Matt Yudt Subject: Re: PU/CCR (33% Breastfeeding Content) > "Rex.Broome" wrote: > >> I was trying to think of another >> song, particularly one of Robyn's, that could have its intent SO COMPLETELY >> REVERSED by the use of a single line. Any takers on that one? Its not RH, but I recall hearing a number of years ago that the makers of the Oliver North TV Movie wanted to use Elvis's "Olivers Army" for the theme song. Now thats gotta take the cake! I love Fortunate Son - I'm so glad I missed the ad in question. In fact, I told my wife I want it played at my funeral. Has anyone else started preparing a set list for their own funeral? (I'm sure this has been discussed here before, no?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 11:36:13 -0700 From: drew Subject: rectify your existence > From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > On Sat, 19 Oct 2002, drew wrote: > >> Funny you should say that. Take a look at this month's Onion >> AV Club "Justify Your Existence." Claudia Gonson is so eager >> to sell us on the wacky, whimsical subjects of Merritt's songs >> that she doesn't even answer the (stupid) questions. > > Uh, but expecting musicians to answer the questions in JYE is kind of > pointless Uh, I said they were stupid questions, mang. I was alarmed not by the fact that she didn't even attempt to pretend she was answering them (it's wittier when they take the questions and run with them), but by the press-release character of the answers she gave. That's always been the dumbest section of the AV Club to my mind. It's even dumber than Red Meat, which is quite an achievement. > Of course it's not *really* magical. But if you really want to distance > yourself, be reluctant, or tasteful, you omit it entirely - as in the > infamous (from the Watergate transcripts) "[expletive deleted]" or some > other means. But assuming you're correct: writing "f*ck" does the > things > you suggest it does only if you believe that "f*ck" somehow is > different > from "fuck" in anything but typography. Or to put it another way, that > that little "u" is somehow more offensive than the asterisk - even > though > everyone reads right through the asterisk. Of course they do, just as everyone knows you're going to the shitter when you say "I'm going to visit the restroom". "F*ck" is a euphemism, more specific than "[expletive]" and less direct than "fuck." Nothing is actually concealed by the asterisk, but that's not what it's there for. It's a social signal. It's a weak one, yes, especially when you consider that "f___" is also available, but it carries meaning. > You're familiar with the etymology of "cabal," no? Yes. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 06:19:54 -0700 From: barbara soutar Subject: Science and magic, eh? Hi all, I don't know how to do the quote thing, so that's why I write little essays! I must learn how to do this so I can respond to individual people. On the other hand, this technique seems to lead to arguments and I don't think I'd like that. I want to say to Stewart that the use of "eh" is indeed very infectious.Most Canadians wouldn't know what you mean by the term "taking the piss", though I happen to, but then I'm a bit of an Anglophile. It's sensible of you to point out that the asterisk which replaces the vowel in published obscenity is inserted primarily for legal reasons! Also wanted to add one more bit to the science/magic discussion. From what someone commented about Newton recently here, it seems that rather than being a calm scientist he was kind of a maniac desperately searching for magic... and that the logical scientific theories were just the outcome of all his work. Funny how these respected scientists look misguided from our perspective. A final thought: people like Newton and Kepler were amateurs in the correct sense of the word... they worked for love, not money. Scientific knowledge is just the rather useful side-benefit of all that blood, sweat, tears and romance. The tip of the iceberg, as it were. Not sure where I'm going with this. I just wonder if present-day scientists will seem equally misguided to future generations. Barbara Soutar ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:15:20 +0100 From: "Rob" Subject: Soft Boys BBC Radio 3 setlist I don't think anyone's posted about this yet. The following tracks were played on Andy Kershaw's show on 18th Oct 2002: I Wanna Destroy You Narcissus Pulse Of My Heart Sudden Town Mr Kennedy - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:49:56 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Uh Oh On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > Please, let me quote a great philosopher, and just get to the point: > "Uh Oh, it's Magic, when I'm with you... Uh Oh it's Magic YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE! > I gots a hold on you, gots a hold on you, GOT'S A HOLD ON YOUUUUUU!!!" "It's magic when the feeling is groovy It makes you feel better like an old-time movie" Welcom back, Blatzman! - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #334 ********************************