From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #328 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 16 2002 Volume 11 : Number 328 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Misappropriated songs [Ken Weingold ] Re: Misappropriated songs [Jeff Dwarf ] Kurt, Kristmas and Kash ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: Misappropriated songs ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Misappropriated songs [Tom Clark ] Re: Kurt, Kristmas and Kash [gSs ] superstition [drew ] Re: Misappropriated songs [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] the holy trouser press [Ken Ostrander ] Re: the holy trouser press [Ken Weingold ] Re: the holy trouser press ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Kurt, Kristmas and Kash [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] OT: not a desirable address [] Re: the holy trouser press [Ken Ostrander ] one line reverses song's meaning [Eb ] Re: one line reverses song's meaning [] village voice [Thomas Rodebaugh ] Re: one line reverses song's meaning [Ken Weingold ] Re: one line reverses song's meaning [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: One Small Rant [Ken Ostrander ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #327 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Rock n roll spellcheck ["Montauk Daisy" ] Re: sci-magic ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: One Small Tab ["Michael Wells" ] Re: one line reverses song's meaning [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:50:00 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Misappropriated songs On Wed, Oct 16, 2002, Dolph Chaney wrote: > I'm a little surprised no one's mentioned a non-hypothetical example of a > U.S. President misappropriating a song -- Reagan's co-opting of > Springsteen's "Born In The U.S.A." What's even funnier than that was Ron Reagan JR's comments on his father's picking Born In The U.S.A. Ron's a really funny guy. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:11:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Misappropriated songs Dolph Chaney wrote: > I'm a little surprised no one's mentioned a non-hypothetical example > of a U.S. President misappropriating a song -- Reagan's co-opting of > Springsteen's "Born In The U.S.A." Or, less importantly, John Hughes's of "Pretty in Pink." Or various happy couples' of "Every Breath You Take," "The One I Love," "Wicked Game," or "Don't Dream It's Over." ===== "If we don't allow journalists, politicians, and every two-bit Joe Schmo with a cause to grandstand by using 9-11 as a lame rhetorical device, then the terrorists have already won." -- "Shredder" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 10:16:35 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Kurt, Kristmas and Kash Ken: >>I remember when Smells Like Teen Spirit came out. I thought it was a pretty >>cool song. I checked out the album. I thought it was pretty cool. Nothing more. >>Amazes me how huge they got. Weird, innit, and kinda cool to be old enough to have once been indifferent to stuff which is now enshrined as ultimately classic. First time I heard Nirvana was "Sliver" on French radio, and I thought it was Dinosaur Jr; "Nevermind" was one of a bunch of albums in its class when it came out, and I clearly remember preferring the contemporaneous Dinosaur, Buffalo Tom and Pixies records. It was way better than a lot of other bands I heard and actively disliked long before they became huge, though-- Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against the Machine, No Doubt... that's an endless list. >>Same for Nine Inch Nails I think. Head Like A Hole was being played in clubs a >>lot in '89. Cool song. Man, I thought those guys were flat-out lame from the get-go. "Let's go dancing on the backs of the bruised"??? You go on, Trent; I'll catch up later. I also remember early reviews-- lots of 'em-- of "Appetite for Destruction" which dismissed it as a straight-up piece of crap. Now it's a classic or something. A similar thing is happening with the film "My Big Fat Greek Wedding", many early reviews of which were lukewarm at best. Haven't seen it, but it's an interesting phenomenon. ________________ On Halloween: I honestly have no problem with formerly religious/spiritual celebrations evolving into secular ones. That's what happens. I know people who want to eliminate the Christmas Holidays in public schools/federal jobs because it violates separation of Church & State. Now... look... I wouldn't be the only non-religious person who would be deeply pissed off by that. It's what happens at the end of the year. We get a break from our crappy responsibilities and reconnect with our families and try to make 'em happy. The decorations, drawn from all the various religious traditions that have claimed the holiday... are pretty. They mark your place in the year, especially if you live in a climate where winter is cold and bleak and more or less unbroken for a few months. Look, Halloween & Christmas started with whoever, passed on the the Pagans, were appropriated by the Christians, and now pretty much belong to the modern "religion" of mass marketing . I don't think a thorough understanding of all the various historical meaning of these feasts should be a prerequisite for partying, dressing up, or otherwise making merry during those rare times of the year when it's more or less socially acceptable. Personally, I plan on discussing all that stuff with my daughters, because I want them to learn to look beyond the surface of things, and I think history is cool. But I wouldn't call someone who *doesn't* do that a "bad parent". As long as they help the kids with the costumes. But, gSs, why would you go out of your way to act Christian in order to bag a Christian chick, when you have so little respect for her core beliefs? It doesn't make you hypocritical; just seems like a waste of time. __________ Oh god... I do believe I'm hearing Johnny Cash doing a cover of "Personal Jesus". That right there is a step or two down from the Nick Cave song on his last album. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:52:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Misappropriated songs > My deaf-translator, a born-again Christian, told me that her church's > organist loved playing that. I laughed and asked her if she knew what the > piece celebrated -- Nietzsche's anti-religious magnum opus -- and she > *insisted* I must be wrong, because surely such a "moving" piece of > classical music couldn't be about the |bermensch, nor would her sweet > organist play it.... > > --Quail This reminds me...just yesterday I was listening to Garrison Keillor's daily Writer's Almanac, and he noted that it was Nietzche's birthday. He read a pointedly anti-Christianity quote (below). I thought it was odd that Keillor chose this quote--I don't know anything really about his attitude towards religion, but it seemed to me that his voice lost a neutral tone at the end of this section. 'It's the birthday of Friedrich Nietzsche, born in Saxony (1844). He wrote Beyond Good and Evil (1886), and Ecce Homo (1888). He wrote that the German words for "good" and "evil" had come into use when society was still divided into masters, who were aggressive and wilful, and slaves, who could survive only by being humble and subservient. He accused religion-all religions, it didn't make any difference which-of rooking slaves into believing that self-seeking behavior like their masters' would be punished in the next world, and submissive behavior like theirs would be rewarded. He wrote, "I regard Christianity as the most fatal and seductive lie that has ever yet existed - as the greatest and most impious lie ... I decline to enter into any compromise or false position in reference to it - I urge people to declare open war with it."' It was also Italo Calvino's birthday too. Jonzche ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:00:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Misappropriated songs on 10/16/02 10:11 AM, Jeff Dwarf at munki1972@yahoo.com wrote: > Dolph Chaney wrote: >> I'm a little surprised no one's mentioned a non-hypothetical example >> of a U.S. President misappropriating a song -- Reagan's co-opting of >> Springsteen's "Born In The U.S.A." > > Or, less importantly, John Hughes's of "Pretty in Pink." > > Or various happy couples' of "Every Breath You Take," "The One I Love," > "Wicked Game," or "Don't Dream It's Over." I've related this story before, but this brings to mind my cousin's wedding. For the song that the bride and groom dance to alone, they chose "Paradise By The Dashboard Light." - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:11:06 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Kurt, Kristmas and Kash On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > But, gSs, why would you go out of your way to act Christian in order to bag > a Christian chick, when you have so little respect for her core beliefs? > It doesn't make you hypocritical; just seems like a waste of time. when is sex a waste of time? i think you could actually be wasting time by not having sex, sometimes. in a semi-convoluted but appropriate scenario, there is a girl to which you are very much attracted and you have an opportunity to play out your attraction, say at an office party in which mixed liquid drugs from a bar are freely served, with an understanding by both that yer going to the park simply to have sex. a remark is made that requires a direct response and could expose a religious counter-belief that might or might not keep this intimate encounter from being played out. a lie of almost any kind at that point is acceptable, normally. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 11:33:19 -0700 From: drew Subject: superstition >From: Ken Weingold >[...] >thought Nine Inch Nails was merely cool. Never even bought the album. >Then before I knew it, they were playing arenas. Huh? To each his >own I suppose. Yep, that was pretty much my feeling about NIN too. >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >Similarly, I don't mind kids dressing as ghosts as long as they have some >faint idea of why - even if it's something very boiled down and simplistic. >"people used to think that ghosts came back to haunt people at this time of >the year, but that the ghosts would go away if people them food, or if they >did something to scare them away". It might just teach kids something, too. Well...I have mixed feelings about this one. On the one hand, I find it aesthetically and intellectually appealing to give kids a sense of history and roots when it comes to tradition. On the other hand, I don't believe in ghosts, and I'm not sure that every kid is going to be able to easily distinguish between the explanation of such a tradition and an endorsement of it. I have just enough distaste for the Hallmark holiday industry to prefer teaching kids about the moronic superstitions of their forebears, but it's a slim margin. I hate Halloween, by the way. I love the aesthetics of it but I've hated trick-or-treating since I was a little kid. When I was too young to go out, the trick-or-treaters who appeared at our door would scare me witless. When I was old enough to go out, going up to strangers' doorbells and ringing them, always fearing that some mischievous adults would try to give me a fright -- all in fun! -- in return, would scare me witless. When I was too old to go trick- or-treating, it seemed other kids thought they weren't, and I gave them candy with mistrust. And then finally I was old enough for Halloween parties, and every year the chore of putting together some kind of costume seemed more onerous. I dressed up for Halloween in the Castro two years ago, and for my birthday party last year (Oct. 26), but this year I may just skip it. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:41:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Misappropriated songs On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Or various happy couples' of "Every Breath You Take," "The One I Love," > "Wicked Game," or "Don't Dream It's Over." A few weeks back, we were talking about (misplaced) commas in song titles: I think "Don't Dream It's Over" quite skillfully finesses the question of whether there should be a comma between "dream" and "it's." That is, the title can be taken (by those happy couples) as "it's okay, don't worry, it's not over" - but with an invisible comma, as "stop dreaming: it's over." Nice work! - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::the sea is the night asleep in the daytime:: __Robert Desnos__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:45:11 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: the holy trouser press >>In fact, that's were I first read about >>the SB's was from a TP record guide. > >Me too -- in fact, I could say that about lots of the bands I like. I love >the Trouser Press record guides. i've learned a lot about music from trouser press. we call it the bible. they've relaunched the site by the way: http://www.trouserpress.com/ >> > Choosing to vehemently believe in and preach the non-existence of >> > God is also choosing an aspect. >> >> Wasn't it here that we discussed whether atheism amounted to a >> religion? I never really bought that line myself. actually, i remember saying that everyone believes in god; it's just a matter of how they define god. if you believe that "god is nothing", then you believe in nothing. if you believe that "god is love", then you believe in love. if you believe that god is hitchcock, then... ken "holy shit" the kenster np downtown don lennon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:50:33 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: the holy trouser press On Wed, Oct 16, 2002, Ken Ostrander wrote: > actually, i remember saying that everyone believes in god; it's just a matter of how they define god. if you believe that "god is nothing", then you believe in nothing. if you believe that "god is love", then you believe in love. if you believe that god is hitchcock, then... Cool. Then I also believe in adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks. Because I believe that adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks is nothing. ;-) - -Ken ken@adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:56:06 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: the holy trouser press Ken: > Cool. Then I also believe in adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks. Because I > believe that adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks is nothing. I believe it's the title to the latest Aphex Twin release. Which is totally crazy. Michael "I believe in naps" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 13:56:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Kurt, Kristmas and Kash On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > > Oh god... I do believe I'm hearing Johnny Cash doing a cover of "Personal > Jesus". That right there is a step or two down from the Nick Cave song on > his last album. It pains me to imagine that there's a song I *wouldn't* want to hear Johnny Cash sing - but that's one. - --Jeff J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::playing around with the decentered self is all fun and games ::until somebody loses an I. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:04:00 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: the holy trouser press On Wed, Oct 16, 2002, Mike Wells wrote: > Ken: > > Cool. Then I also believe in adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks. Because I > > believe that adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks is nothing. > > I believe it's the title to the latest Aphex Twin release. Which is totally > crazy. Which was taken from Prince beteen the times he was Prince and Prince? :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:10:02 -0400 From: Subject: OT: not a desirable address Mike Myers Drive, Scarborough, ON (about a mile from my house): http://www.cbc.ca/artsCanada/stories/myers161002 Stewart (still deaf from The Apples in Stereo last night. They opened for Clinic, who looked like they might suck because their fans were committing major fashion crimes. We didn't stay to find out if they did.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:12:44 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: the holy trouser press >> > Cool. Then I also believe in adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks. Because I >> > believe that adlfhslkjrfzsldkhfalks is nothing. >> >> I believe it's the title to the latest Aphex Twin release. Which is totally >> crazy. > >Which was taken from Prince beteen the times he was Prince and Prince? >:) during the time he thought that god was money, but he soon converted back to his belief that god is sex... ken "superfunkycalifragisexy" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 12:26:04 -0700 From: Eb Subject: one line reverses song's meaning I find those car ads which steal "I'd call that a bargain/The best I ever had" from the Who especially offensive and misleading. And James, I would say it's wholly accurate to call Guadalcanal Diary a Paisley Underground band. I'd align them firmly with the highly populated "We just wanna be R.E.M." school of the era. Eb, listening to the recent Future Bible Heroes album and wondering how Stephen Merritt can be such an inventive, clever lyricist and yet record the worst goddamn music on Earth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:44:23 -0400 From: Subject: Re: one line reverses song's meaning Eb wrote: > > I find those car ads which steal "I'd call that a bargain/The best I > ever had" from the Who especially offensive and misleading. at least no automaker has used Jonathan Richman's "Dodge Vegomatic" -- yet. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:14:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Rodebaugh Subject: village voice please forgive if this has already been seen--haven't had time to check all the digests lately. a friend send: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0242/gross.php (being a village voice review of nextdoorland) cheers, tom *************************** *Tom Rodebaugh * *Graduate Student, UNC-CH * *tlr3@email.unc.edu * *************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:28:45 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: one line reverses song's meaning On Wed, Oct 16, 2002, Eb wrote: > And James, I would say it's wholly accurate to call Guadalcanal Diary > a Paisley Underground band. I'd align them firmly with the highly > populated "We just wanna be R.E.M." school of the era. Ooh, I would totally agree there. I have the record 2x4 that I got when it came out because I liked the song Litany. A few years ago I guess I pulled it to and decided to listen to it. All I could think was that it sounded just like REM. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:30:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: one line reverses song's meaning On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Eb wrote: > Eb, listening to the recent Future Bible Heroes album and wondering > how Stephen Merritt can be such an inventive, clever lyricist and yet > record the worst goddamn music on Earth In the case of FBH, isn't it Christopher Ewen's music & Merritt's lyrics? It was on the first FBH record. I liked it well enough, and I like a lot of the records Merritt does write music on, so maybe I'm not the best person to answer your question about the worst goddamn music on Earth. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:41:18 -0400 From: dances with virgos Subject: Fwd: Matador News Update October 15, 2002 >Date: 15 Oct 2002 20:30:04 -0000 >To: matthew@matadorrecords.com >From: mailing-list@matadorrecords.com >Reply-To: matthew@matadorrecords.com >Subject: Matador News Update October 15, 2002 > >October 15, 2002 > >The Soft Boys - 'Nextdoorland' US tour about to start / WFMU webcast > >For once our snappy advertising slogans don't work --- 'Nextdoorland' is >no longer "closer then [sic Robyn] you think", it is genuinely right here, >right now and available on CD and 150 gram LP. The latter version comes >with a bonus 7" featuring live versions of "Only The Stones Remain" and >"Underwater Moonlight", recorded in LA during the Soft Boys' 2001 tour. > >though the new US tour is about to start, we are aware that some of you >suffer from that "I-can't-go-out-of-the-house" disease (or in my >case, I've lost the keys again). Since we're always catering to >shut-ins, misanthropes and agoraphobes, the Soft Boys will be playing >live on WFMU (http://www.wfmu.org), Tuesday, October 29 between 3 and 6pm >(EST) on Brian Turner's program. > >Soft Boys guitarist Kimberley Rew has a new solo album, 'Grand Central >Revisited'. available from Bongo Beat >(http://www.bongobeat.com). Kimberley will be making a rare solo >appearance supporting Matador alumni Spoon at London's Spitz on 29 November. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:44:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: one line reverses song's meaning On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > In the case of FBH, isn't it Christopher Ewen's music & Merritt's lyrics? Yes, though I think on the new FBH, Merritt's lyrics have gotten a little lazier, perhaps to match the incredibly lame music. Graaah. Though honestly, his solo soundtrack thing earlier this year wasn't too exciting either. But at least his music is good *sometimes*, while Ewen's has never appealled to me. a ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:48:28 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: one line reverses song's meaning On Wed, Oct 16, 2002, Eb wrote: >>And James, I would say it's wholly accurate to call Guadalcanal Diary >>a Paisley Underground band. I'd align them firmly with the highly >>populated "We just wanna be R.E.M." school of the era. And Ken countered: >oh, I would totally agree there. I have the record 2x4 that I got >hen it came out because I liked the song Litany. A few years ago I >uess I pulled it to and decided to listen to it. All I could think >as that it sounded just like REM. I have 2x4 and their last one, Flip-Flop. REM wannabees all the way, but I used to listen to both of them a lot circa 1988/1991. If we are going to add to the REM wannabee list, I'll toss in Let's Active. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:09:55 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: one line reverses song's meaning on 10/16/02 1:48 PM, Bachman, Michael at Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com wrote: > If we are > going to add to the REM wannabee list, I'll toss in Let's Active. Well that's not exactly fair considering Mitch Easter produced & engineered both Murmur and Reckoning. It might even be more accurate to say REM were Let's Active wannabes. - -tc, who used to have a crush on Sara Romweber. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:22:09 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: One Small Rant >Perhaps a touch contrary to opinions I may have previously expressed in this >forum, I really don't have THAT much of an issue with popular songs being used in commercials. Well, generally I don't, unless John Lennon songs are being used to flog tennis shoes. can anyone confirm the rumor that john lennon penned the catchy jingle for lowenbrau? "here's to good friends, tonight is kinda special, the beer we'll pour, must say something more, so tonight, let it be lowenbrau." >Content perceived as threatening disappears. Disneyfication of the world >continues. Aaarrrghh. fucking dizzknee! they have done a lot to make the concept of fair use disappear as well; which is just a bit ironic since most of their features are based on stories in the public domain. >np. Nextdoorland (if anyone else is working out I Love Lucy on geetar, let's >talk) if anyone's worked out any tabs, i would say that you should let all of us know. ken "hey diddledy dee" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 10:40:49 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #327 >Kiwi Symphony's Errant Scat Music By Kim Griggs heh., yup - that was reasonably big news here. It's been great publicity for the NZSO though. Most people didn't even know they had a website. oh, and Greg - do you seriously NOT believe in magic? If you are so insistent that God is not responsible for creating the universe, it must have been that ratiocinated magic that people call science. You should read about it sometime. I understand that it's got quite a big following. dammit, someone beat me to the "oh thank you Herr Hitler" line. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 21:39:29 +0000 From: "Montauk Daisy" Subject: Rock n roll spellcheck James on holidays: Thanks for the advice --Ive done that with Christmass and Easter already, so bringing in Holloween will be seamless. - --------------------------- Shell, yo've certianly got this time of year right. I do feel like Im loosing leaves. - ---------------------------- >G Diary I never really heard them, bu I agree I associated what I did hear with REM. One of the people from that band , Murry Attaway(?) made a solo albumn that I liked and Ive always wanted to hear more from him, but havent. For one thing-Ive never been sure how to spell Guadalupalacanel;-) Moral of sad story - Bands should have easy to spell/search names. - ----------------------------------- Bachman: >If we are going to add to the REM wannabee list, I'll toss in Let's Active. I love "Big News for Everybody" but I hear too much 70s stuff in there, especially synth, to think of it as early REMish. Kay _________________________________________________________________ Surf the Web without missing calls! Get MSN Broadband. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 16:05:20 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: sci-magic At 10:40 AM 10/17/2002 +1300, James Dignan doubleplusungooded: >oh, and Greg - do you seriously NOT believe in magic? If you are so >insistent that God is not responsible for creating the universe, it must >have been that ratiocinated magic that people call science. You should read >about it sometime. I understand that it's got quite a big following. Science isn't magic, any more so than a tomato is a person or a goldfish is an automobile. That's like calling nose-picking a sexual position. Animal crackers don't meow. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 18:58:41 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: One Small Tab Me > >np. Nextdoorland (if anyone else is working out I Love Lucy on geetar, let's > >talk) Ken > if anyone's worked out any tabs, i would say that you should let all of us know. Well, I haven't written anything down but the other night I picked out a some of the lines in "Lucy" and "Mind...", and fooled around with "Sudden Town" for a few minutes. "Lucy" has some great little bits but it's a bit harder for me as I don't hear things in G very well. For these new songs I suppose we should get some sort of tab circle going offlist for interested parties, so as not to bore everyone else to tears. I'm willing to do some work tabbing out, anyone else? Michael "it's a lot funnier to say 'Lerxst' when you're stoned" Wells np: Manu Chao 'Clandestino' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 19:19:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: one line reverses song's meaning On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > > If we are > > going to add to the REM wannabee list, I'll toss in Let's Active. > > Well that's not exactly fair considering Mitch Easter produced & engineered > both Murmur and Reckoning. It might even be more accurate to say REM were > Let's Active wannabes. 'sides which, Easter has a very distinctive chordal and melodic palette. Mitch Easter fans should know that he plays on, and writes or cowrites a handful of songs on, Shalini's 2000 release _We Want Jelly Donuts_. (I think it's on Parasol.) The opening track is recognizable as a Mitch tune within two or three notes. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::As long as I don't sleep, he decided, I won't shave. ::That must mean...as soon as I fall asleep, I'll start shaving! __Thomas Pynchon, VINELAND__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 17:26:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: R.E.M.-nabes Speaking of > the REM wannabe list Is there really going to be Toad the Wet Sprocket reunion tour? Not because I wanna go, I'm just wondering if I'm going insane or if I did actually read that at the bottom of CNN-Headline News scroll a couple days back. ===== "If we don't allow journalists, politicians, and every two-bit Joe Schmo with a cause to grandstand by using 9-11 as a lame rhetorical device, then the terrorists have already won." -- "Shredder" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #328 ********************************