From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #323 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, October 11 2002 Volume 11 : Number 323 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: mac observation [Caroline Smith ] Re: Pretty Ballerina [Aaron Mandel ] cd/lp ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: Fine Art of Surfacing ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: Saltire ire [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Saltire ire [Michael R Godwin ] Little Black Egg ["Brian Hoare" ] Re: Saltire ire [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] You got Tori, you got Goths, you got Heaven [grutness@surf4nix.com (James] end up a wreck [drew ] Re: Saltire ire [Stewart Russell ] Re: Little Black Egg [The Great Quail ] Re: Little Black Egg [Stewart Russell ] Re: You got Tori, you got Goths, you got Heaven [Stewart Russell ] Re: heaven, the only place besides malls of america which is not actually over-rated. [gSs ] Nextdoorland eventually [barbara soutar ] Buffyvangelism: It is... too late for me. Plus Goths! ["Rex.Broome" ] Abandon dope all ye ["Golden Hind" ] Re: Abandon all ye dope [gSs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:56:05 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: mac observation > - -- "Rex.Broome" is rumored to have > mumbled > on Donnerstag, 10. Oktober 2002 9:47 Uhr -0700 regarding Bush (not W), > Tori, etc.: > >> And although they "look good" as they are, I'm surprised Apple hasn't >> created a "silver screen powerbook" with the logo on the lid >> upside-down, >> so that it appears rightside up when the powerbook is open and shot >> from >> behind. > > But they have! All recent iBooks and PowerBooks are that way ... Yes, Apple seems to have caught on and models now have an "upside down" apple when the laptop is closed. ;) tomato/tomahto i guess ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Pretty Ballerina On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, Eb wrote: > PS Jurassic 5 was a lot of fun, last night.:) I didn't much like the EP or first album, and even so I was tempted to get the new one on the basis of how much everyone else who cares at all seems to love them. What am I missing? Chali 2na sounds good guesting on other people's records, and the DJs are fine, but if I'm going to listen to a hot West Coast rap crew with stiff-sounding MCs and slick turntable work, I'd much rather hear Babu anchoring Dilated Peoples. Though speaking of that crowd, I finally got into the recent Blackalicious record, which for some reason has all the less exciting tracks in the first half. Anyway, you keep mentioning J5 so I'm hoping you have something keen to say in their favor. a ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:20:04 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: cd/lp CD - -- Rex: >but I am curious as to whether anyone can >outright recommend/discourage the use of one of those >resurfacing/scratch-repairing gizmos. I have had some success with a cd polish, applied with finger and cloth rather than spinning contraption. I tried it first on a dvd that my daughter had gouged and it sorted that out. Recently I sent a couple of scratched but normally playable disks through a copier. The copier was misreading bits of the disks resulting in noise on the copy. The originals played ok, but the player was probably compensating for bad reads. An application of the polish on the offending originals produced perfect copies. So as yet I'm in favour of the stuff. LP kinda geeky - -- Looking at the back of NDL today I noticed the LP next to Kim. I guess, from from colour of the label and the pattern of the light grey/white on it that it is the 1986 Moist Records pressing of Underwater Moonlight. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 07:59:50 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Fine Art of Surfacing James wrote: >Next up, Boomtown Rats - The fine art of surfacing. In never grew to like this one. I had high hopes for it as it loved the two excellent singles but other than these there is nothing on it that I can get into. I still treasure the first two albums. I find it a little creepy that the first 3 albums all contain songs about suicide. Brian np Captain Sensible : Power of Love. Pretty bad but it has a few good moments. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:52:52 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Saltire ire On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, James Dignan wrote: > nf - Sweden. well why not? Have you heard about this argument? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2307795.stm Do other countries have specified luminescence values (if that's the correct measure) for flag colours? It seems a bit obsessive to me. - - Mike PS Philip Pullman was on Desert Island Discs today and he chose a piano piece by Nikolai Mettner. Very attractive - I hadn't heard of him before. Are there any fans out there? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:00:17 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Saltire ire On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Michael R Godwin wrote: > PS Philip Pullman was on Desert Island Discs today and he chose a piano > piece by Nikolai Mettner. Very attractive - I hadn't heard of him before. > Are there any fans out there? More correctly spelt Nikolai Medtner; apologies - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:08:20 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Little Black Egg A week ago Rex wrote: >Favorites throughout that time have included "The Little Black Egg" by the >Nightcrawlers. This is a song that I've been wanting to hear for years. The only version I know is by Nik Turner's Inner City Unit and I don't know how close to original that is, it's quite odd. The version of Red Crayola's Hurricane Fighter Plane on the same ep is very similar in feel to the original so maybe the original LBE sounds like this. In which case singing it to your children is doing them good. The reason this comes to mind now is that I've found that all the ICU material is on the ICU website so if you're curious try http://www.doremi.co.uk/icu/singles.html and check out the cover. In face the whole of that EP is well worth having as are bits (Stonehenge, World of LSD, Fungus Among Us and Bigfoot) of the President's Tapes album and the first half of Punkadelic. Space rock legend enters the punk world much more effectively than Daevid Allen's Here and Now. Stewart: >Ultimate UK time waster and nostalgia trip: ZX Spectrum games in your >browser, f'rinstance Chuckie Egg, ICU's otherwise uninteresting LP NewAnatomy featured a spectrum program on the end of side two - I tried it and it worked (LP->tape->Spectrum), not very exciting just some discography/biography. Strangely this program is not available from the website. Brian np ICU Paint Your Windows White. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 01:08:52 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Saltire ire >On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, James Dignan wrote: >> nf - Sweden. well why not? > >Have you heard about this argument? >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2307795.stm yup - I knew that was happening. Scotland's flag is usually a very dark blue - more like that on the US flag than that on the French or Dutch flags, for instance. I'm surprised the Lord Lyon says that it's entirely up to Scottish legislation, though - the St. Andrew's Cross is a component part of the Union Flag, and as such surely should have the same blue as that (although I don't know whether that is standard, either). >Do other countries have specified luminescence values (if that's the >correct measure) for flag colours? It seems a bit obsessive to me. It varies from country to country. Some countries have very specific details about the exact shades (usually specified in terms of the Pantone system), others don't mind. Others use ambiguous descriptions, like The Bahamas, whose flag has a blue which is 'the colour of the waters off the coral coast'. But sometimes having specific colours only makes matters worse. Sweden, Finland, and Anguilla are all examples of this, but for completely different reasons. Sweden's official shade is a very strange greyish blue, but most people in Sweden hate it, so for that reason most flag manufacturers use a different, brighter blue. Finland used to have a specifically named pale shade of blue on its flag. But it faded too easily, so they changed the specifications. The new shade was unpopular, so they changed it again. For that reason, you can readily find three distinct types of Finnish flag with different shades of blue. Anguilla briefly declared itself independent - a story and a half in itself of which some details are on my website. It's delightful "Dolphin flag" hasd a specified light blue. Unfortunately, that particular shade was very costly - too costly for an island of 8,000 people. So they altered the shade to a similar, but cheaper, colour. It's often blue that's the problem. There are only a couple of reds and a standard black and white used on flags. Greens and yellows vary a bit more, but not as much as blues, and other colours are unusual enough to be specified exactly. James (waffling on about flags again) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 01:30:45 +1300 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: You got Tori, you got Goths, you got Heaven >>>I guess I'm lucky, because I don't really hear one. I doubt >>>it would be a drawback if I did, because I love Kate Bush. > >Not on the piano stuff, but there was a time when Tori still got played on >the radio and started having ryhthm sections, and I mistook two of her >releases in a row for new Kate Bush songs ("God" and "Cornflake Girl", I >think), so that's what I'm going on. I like KB a good deal but sometimes a >whole album of hers can be rough going for me. there is a track off the first This Mortal Coil album that I have repeatedly mistaken for Kate Bush. I think it's called "Another Day". Even though it's Elizabeth Fraser's voice, the sound, structure and flow are VERY like early Kate Bush albums. >> > Goth is not just being sad and wearing black. >> >> There's also white makeup, taking oneself way too seriously given the >> shtick's intrinsic silliness, and the key of E minor. > >You know, I'm thinking of all the hardcore goths I've known over the >years, and not one of them could possibly be described as taking >themselves very seriously. No doubt they are all rare exceptions, >though. if so, the ones I know are exceptions too. And the idea about sad isn't alwaystrue either. I don't think you can explain it as simply as that. Then again, I also think that whoever said that Leonard Cohen's music was sad hasn't listened to much of it, either. Incredibly dark sense of humour, yes. Sad, no. >> This guy wants to bury Moslems in pigskin bags, so that they can't go > >> to heaven and get the virgins. > >But wouldn't a Christian already believe Muslims aren't going to heaven >since they never accepted Jesus Christ as their savior? So by bother to >put them in pigskin bags, wouldn't they be conceding that Islam is >actually the only true faith, and that Christianity is false? anyway, all those virgins are in the Moslem Heaven, so they wouldn't be waiting for you when you got there. Not that they're virgins, anyway. They're kumpquats or some other tropical fruit, IIRC - but have been deliberately mistranslated by people wanting others to blow themselves up. >ok, ok that might not seem very nice but then people shouldn't be anymore >offended by that than burning a cross or defiling, mocking etc.. anything >with any religious affiliation. the negative association is a shame >because a big wooden cross looks real neat when it is on fire. does that include being offended by kids trick or treating at All Hallows Eve? I don't go around door-knocking dressed as a funky crucifix at Eastertime (then again, that might be fun) James (no... not the comfy chair!) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:19:52 -0700 From: drew Subject: end up a wreck > From: "Rex.Broome" > > [Tori sounding like Kate] > Not on the piano stuff, but there was a time when Tori still got > played on > the radio and started having ryhthm sections, and I mistook two of her > releases in a row for new Kate Bush songs ("God" and "Cornflake Girl", > I > think), so that's what I'm going on. I like KB a good deal but > sometimes a > whole album of hers can be rough going for me. Crazy. Kate's albums are all so different I feel sure that one of them would work for you. But yeah, this seems to be how it works -- I first heard about Tori when a friend of mine who knew I liked Kate told me she'd seen Kate on TV. Turned out it was Tori doing "Silent All These Years." I think it's casual or non-fans of both who get them confused, for the most part; vocally I can see how those songs sound like Kate but the styles are so very different otherwise. > Stewart: >>> radiohead moment at the start of "My Mind Is Connected ..." -- anyone > else? > > No, thankfully. My gosh, is there anything we both like? :) > From: Christopher Gross > > You know, I'm thinking of all the hardcore goths I've known over the > years, and not one of them could possibly be described as taking > themselves very seriously. No doubt they are all rare exceptions, > though. Yeah, the ones I've known are like that too. The white makeup and E minor points are correct, though. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:02:13 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Saltire ire James Dignan wrote: > > I'm surprised the Lord Lyon says that it's entirely up > to Scottish legislation, though - the St. Andrew's Cross is a component > part of the Union Flag, and as such surely should have the same blue as > that why not? It's primarily Scotland's flag. It was in use long before the union. Canada has it nailed down -- they specify Pantones: http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/sc-cs/df1_e.cfm Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:27:12 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: Little Black Egg Brian writes, > This is a song that I've been wanting to hear for years. The only version I > know is by Nik Turner's Inner City Unit And > Space rock legend > enters the punk world much more effectively than Daevid Allen's Here and > Now. Oh my God! Backhand allusions to both Hawkwind *and* Gong. It's my lucky day! - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:40:26 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Little Black Egg Brian Hoare wrote: > > This is a song that I've been wanting to hear for years. ICU's version is hopelessly twee. The original is quite sparse, and is clearly sung by someone who has done way too much DIY mind alteration. I've tried in vain to find an MP3 on public sites. > Strangely this program is not available from the website. spectrum games don't work very well as MP3s. They could've run it under Hob and presented it as a web page. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:46:10 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: You got Tori, you got Goths, you got Heaven James Dignan wrote: > > I don't go around door-knocking dressed as a funky crucifix at > Eastertime (then again, that might be fun) James, you're becoming more like Bob The Angry Flower every day! Actually, next easter I'm going to dress up in a moth-eaten rabbit suit and shamble round the neighbourhood, half-cut and unshaven, screaming "I've Come For Your Chocolate!" at all the little kids. That'll show the little bastards. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 14:01:00 +0000 From: "Golden Hind" Subject: Dolphin Flag Fetter, thanks for the lowdown on gouls. - --------------- >I do agree with that, and it's where I get the Spike Lee (or Michael >Moore >or Michael Stipe or Bono) thing... there's a complexity to >their art that >vanishes when they step up to the pulpit as public >personas. Well, thats the problem with pulpits. In art you can work with an interlayering of possibilities, in life, if you want to further what you see as the good, such subtelty is only effacious with some. - ---------------- The Goth debate For me there is a huge difference tween the prototypes of goth and punk(which is not to say there aren't many who aren't capable of merging both.) To a certain extent punk is based on rage and therefore active in a disfunctional way. Anger is its fuel. Goth is based on style and as such is passive in a disfunctional way. The uncanny is its fuel. There is, however, a common despair(hence the humor) that underlys both. Hmm and oh yeah, punks yell while goths intone. - ----------------- What is "Firefly" about and when is it on? - --------------- Geeky visual schtick Brian: Looking at the back of NDL today... Love the green candles contrasted to the red apples or pomagranites and wine. Also see a candle snuffer. What else? How about someone who has the earlier Groovy Dec-something picture it resembles, doing a comparison? - ---------------- Thank you everybody for not pointing out the groaner in my last post(hey--I was working late) "a good bon mot." Arg. - ------------------- James, waffle as much as you want, as long as you include Anguilla. Its a delightful island. Not as dramatically beautiful or self-consiosly cool as some of its sinking-under-the-weight-of-tourism neighbors, but a delight in its relative simplicity, enlightened economic rules for development that include the native population in the bonanza, and some long, fairly-deserted beaches(if youre willing to search them out.) Also people speak with a soft Brit-Carabeaan accent. Great beach bars. It deserves its dolphin flag. - ----------------- Kay, in her imagination drinking pinnaple soda, eating conch stew, and gazing out from beneath a very big hat at blooming kwumquats, dancing dolphins and a shining acqua/turquoise/prussian blue sea. "I think it's nice when old things can still move around." Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 09:31:29 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: heaven, the only place besides malls of america which is not actually over-rated. it's a real shame that heaven appears only in a collection of fictional essays and autobiographies. On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, James Dignan wrote: > >ok, ok that might not seem very nice but then people shouldn't be anymore > >offended by that than burning a cross or defiling, mocking etc.. anything > >with any religious affiliation. the negative association is a shame > >because a big wooden cross looks real neat when it is on fire. > > does that include being offended by kids trick or treating at All Hallows > Eve? how are these kids directly defiling or mocking anything with any religious affiliation? i doubt that is what is running through their minds. that did not even enter my mind when I was doing it, i just wanted the fucking candy. > I don't go around door-knocking dressed as a funky crucifix at > Eastertime (then again, that might be fun) but would you be doing that in order to offend a christian by mocking or defiling the religion and any of it's affiliations? or are you actually mocking or calling into question the validity or another religion. that is awfully hypocritical but then i don't know anyone with any sort of religious affiliation who is not a hypocrit. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:21:11 +0000 From: "Golden Hind" Subject: Re: heaven, the only place besides malls of america which is not actually over-r gSs: >i don't know anyone with any sort of >religious affiliation who is not a hypocrit Agreed. But then I dont know -anyone- who, somewhere, somehow, is not a hypocrit. And I'm even including dogs in that assessment. Kay, who one Easter morning woke up, having dreamed she was damned and in hell, but insisted on acting Christian anyway and so emerged back on earth at Westminster Abbey, which was inexplicably positioned by the softly-running Thames. Now is -that- contrarian or what;-? "I think it's nice when old things can still move around." Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:48:19 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: butt, the only thing besides powerplant or original flo that is not actually over-rated On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Golden Hind wrote: > Kay, who one Easter morning woke up, having dreamed she was damned and in > hell, but insisted on acting Christian anyway and so emerged back on earth > at Westminster Abbey, which was inexplicably positioned by the > softly-running Thames. Now is -that- contrarian or what;-? that would be about the only time I could justify acting the part. unless of course there is butt involved and then I'll act whatever part is required. but that goes without saying. butt is one thing, god is at most one thing completely inferior to butt. so does that make butt, god? gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 11:55:40 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: RE: #319, #320 On 10 Oct 2002 at 21:09, Roberta Cowan wrote: >. Doesn't etree.org discourage people from > writing directly on discs with a marker? Here's the FAQ from that site: 3c. Should I write on my CDR's? There has been a lot of dispute over this question. Writing on CDR's won't cause any immediate problems (provided you don't write on the side with the music on it), and some companies have actually begun selling CD Writing Pens. However, since CDR's haven't been around for too long, the long-term effects of writing on CDR's is rather uncertain. Some people hypothesize that the ink will over time bleed through the CD and cause damage to it. The best way to be certain your CDR's won't be damaged is to write on the clear plastic ring in the center of the CD where no data is stored. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 12:32:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Dolphin Flag Kay wrote: > What is "Firefly" about and when is it on? Short answer is, it's a Western in space. Pretty entertaining, if you aren't a stickler for astronomical accuracy. It's on Fox at 8 pm Fridays, except not tonight. More info at www.fox.com/firefly . - --Chris, sticking to short answers because I should have been on the road an hour ago.... ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:26:18 -0700 From: barbara soutar Subject: Nextdoorland eventually Hi, Offlist Stewart asked me if I had managed to find Nextdoorland and what did I think of it. I went to the biggest music store here in Victoria and they had it! It was under The Soft Boys, rather than Robyn Hitchcock so I couldn't find it at first. The clerk in the store helped me find it and seemed to know all about Robyn, Soft Boys, Egyptians... they had the CD Jewels for Sophia. I'm listening to it right now and enjoying the overall sound. Robyn's voice and lyrics combined with a great band = magic I can dance to. I'm not really capable of dissecting and analyzing the music since I'm a new fan, but I know what I like! A few other things I meant to say as I read the last few feglists. About mishearing things and this leading into interesting images: I once misheard someone and then said, "Did you say United Cave Maidens"? Which led to much laughter. I still think of this image, perhaps it could be a organized club for virgins who live in caves? Maybe even Neaderthal virgins, if there ever could be such a thing. I should say that I also enjoy the song "Going Down to Liverpool" and didn't know it was written by the Soft Boy you mentioned. Just listening to "Unprotected Love", great song. Does this mean that Robyn and his wife will be having children soon? heehee. I love the concept of "My Mind is Connected to Your Dreams". Very Pisces. Barbara Soutar Victoria, British Columbia ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:42:39 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Buffyvangelism: It is... too late for me. Plus Goths! Miles: >>This is the fourth season that Buffy and her peers haven't been in high >>school (though Buffy just took a job at the new Sunnydale High, so high >>school life returns in some form). This has been pointed out to me, but it seemed a little too late to jump on board when that happened, and just because that happened. Plus most of the most ardent fans I knew deemed it to be in decline at that time (although they seemed to change their opinions quickly). >>And I'd like to add that people who found real-life high school a turnoff >>might especially enjoy Buffy's high school years! High school as the >>mouth of Hell is a metaphor many of us can really understand. This, too, has been said to me. Buffy fans are so evangelistic! It's not that High School was "hell" for me or that I wanted to see it destroyed or overrun by demons... it was just boring to me (whereas it seems endlessly fascinating to screenwriters), and when selecting between my entertainment options, I generally opt not to spend any more time there. I'm also sick of "the mob as metaphor for dysfunctional family", so I'm missing out on another "best-written-and-acted show on TV" in the form of the Sopranos. My choice, my loss, yeah? I have started to watch a few episodes of Buffy, but they just didn't do it for me. However, a good friend of mine is designing Willow's jewelry this season, so if you see something you like, let me know. It's all for sale. ______________ Possibly related: "Goth" is confusing as a genre or fashion movement or social construct or whatever it is. Seems to be mostly a fashion thing, although there are certainly musical connections and required listening. Hard to think of more than a handful of self-described "Goth bands", although there seem to be some on tiny labels who circulate their albums exclusively in the "Goth community" and will be taken seriously by exactly nobody else. Last time I was in Berkeley I noticed that one of the big record stores-- Rasputin, I think-- had an actual "Goth/Industrial" section and the stuff they had in there was very puzzling. Siouxsie, Gene Love Gezebel, Skinny Puppy, Alien Sex Fiend and countless microlabel bands called Dark Skin or Exquisite Corpse or whatever, some of which looked borderline "black metal". Weird. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:50:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Dolphin Flag on 10/11/02 9:32 AM, Christopher Gross at chrisg@gwu.edu wrote: > Kay wrote: > >> What is "Firefly" about and when is it on? > > Short answer is, it's a Western in space. Pretty entertaining, if you > aren't a stickler for astronomical accuracy... ...or good dialog. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 17:54:36 +0000 From: "Golden Hind" Subject: Abandon dope all ye Greg wrote: >that would be about the only time I could justify acting the part. Part? >unless of course there is butt involved But of course, -that- part. >so does that make butt, god? We all choose our own gods. - -------------------- Thank you Chris of short but informative answers Kay "I think it's nice when old things can still move around." Robyn Hitchcock _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:29:45 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Abandon all ye dope On Fri, 11 Oct 2002, Golden Hind wrote: > Greg wrote: > >that would be about the only time I could justify acting the part. > > Part? as a christian. > >unless of course there is butt involved > > But of course, -that- part. you know i mean butt not bud, right? and that's butt as in.... you know, butt! > >so does that make butt, god? > > We all choose our own gods. do we? if there was actually a god involved we wouldn't have a choice. gSs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #323 ********************************