From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #306 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, September 28 2002 Volume 11 : Number 306 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: sabotage, 0% ozzy [gSs ] Re: commercial advertisement is coming to civil service vehicles.... [Je] Nextdoorland [The Great Quail ] Re: horse supposed dead [gSs ] Re: horse supposed dead [Stewart Russell ] Re: horse supposed dead ["Jason R. Thornton" ] glam slam [drew ] Robyn goes soft... Neil dominates Canada... ragas rock... ["Rex.Broome" <] giddyup #305 [Eb ] Re: glam slam ["*FS Thomas*" ] Re: Nextdoorland [Tom Clark ] Re: glam slam ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: glam slam ["*FS Thomas*" ] Re: giddyup #305 [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Rated PG ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: I was bored, so... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: I was bored, so... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: I was bored, so... [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #305 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Rated PG [Steve Talkowski ] Re: glam slam ["Maximilian Lang" ] 0% Nextdoorland Content ["Michael Wells" ] Enhanced, Death, Horses, and Scary Monsters [mary ] Re: Enhanced, Death, Horses, and Scary Monsters [steve Subject: Re: sabotage, 0% ozzy Record Labels Seek OK for Online Music Sabotage Fri Sep 27, 6:40 AM ET By Andy Sullivan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Frustrated by the continuing presence of free music on the Internet, the recording industry asked for Congress' blessing on Thursday to gum up the online networks they blame for slowing their sales. Congress is considering expanded legal protection for record labels who resort to sabotage in their ongoing battle with "peer to peer" networks that allow users to freely trade music, movies and other copyrighted material. The recording industry offered a glimpse into its tactics, which include blocking transfers and flooding the network with dummy songs, and promised a House of Representatives subcommittee that they would not disrupt the Internet or reach into individuals' computers. "I can't foresee any scenario where it would be in our interest to go into anybody's computer and delete a file," said Hilary Rosen, chairman of the Recording Industry Association of America ( news - web sites). But some lawmakers worried that overzealous copyright enforcement measures could end up targeting innocent computer users, and said they did not want to encourage a high-tech game of cat and mouse that could easily get out of hand. "What are the implications for the Internet's functionality when the inevitable arms race develops?" asked Virginia Democratic Rep. Rick Boucher. Boucher noted that overzealous copyright enforcers have already mistaken a photo entitled "Portrait of Mrs. harrison williams 1943" for a song by former Beatle George Harrison, and demanded that Internet provider UUNet terminate the account of a customer who posted a book report on Harry Poter................... http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=575&ncid=738&e=5&u=/nm/20020927/wr_nm/media_piracy_dc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:29:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: commercial advertisement is coming to civil service vehicles.... On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, gSs wrote: > July 25, 2002 > House Bill Could Shut Down File Sharing > Berman Bill Could Allow Copyright Holders To Invade Your PC > By Mark Hachman > > A California Democrat introduced a bill Thursday that would make sharing > of copyrighted files illegal, and would indemnify copyright holders from > taking whatever actions they chose to prevent the sharing of those files. > > "Notwithstanding any State or Federal statute or other law, and subject to > the limitations set forth in subsections (b) and (c), a copyright owner > shall not be liable in any criminal or civil action for disabling, > interfering with, blocking, diverting, or otherwise impairing the > unauthorized distribution, display, performance, or reproduction of his or > her copyrighted work on a publicly accessible peer-to-peer file trading > network, if such impairment does not, without authorization, alter, > delete, or otherwise impair the integrity of any computer file or data > residing on the computer of a file trader," the bill reads. COPY OUR FILES, AND WE'LL COME AND CHOP YOUR NUTS OFF, LEGALLY! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:32:19 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Nextdoorland Well, I finally heard it today -- I for one am very happy!!! While I certainly miss the insane, stuttering grooves of early Soft Boys, I can really get into this slippery, groovy thing. I have to say, I like *all* the tracks, with "Pulse," "Strings," and "La Cherite" being my favorites. As has been noted over and over again, the two-pronged guitar approach is delightful. I also like Seligman's occasional moments where the whole songs stops to thread itself across a sudden bass riff. My only complain at all is in the production -- it sounds a bit too polished for me; I would rather have a rawer sound, with more energy and rough edges - -- especially to Rew's guitar, and I do wish they had turned up Seligman's bass in the mix. But still, I think this is more than a mere "comeback" album -- after 20 years, these guys managed to make a vital CD that will easily make my top ten list. Also good -- Beck's "Sea Change" is beautifully depressing, like Cave's "Boatman's Call," or a Leonard Cohen or Nick Drake album. I *really* like it - -- and there's some great touches in the production. Gabriel's "Up" is likewise a depressing and gloomy turn -- as has been already noted, it bears more similarities to his first few solo works than to "So" or "Us." I like it, though -- but I think it may take some time to really grow on me.... - --Quail ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com "All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event -- in the living act, the undoubted deed -- there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall?" --Herman Melville, "Moby Dick" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 14:33:56 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: horse supposed dead kinda misleading but, talking about whacking a dead horse, the state of texas is trying to force two slaughter houses to stop processing horse meat for export. but hunting leases, pig and cow slaughter, sport fishing, sport hunting, trapping, roach motels, fly paper and catfish farms etc. etc. are OK. why is it ok to raise and slaughter nearly everything but horses? was it trigger or mr. ed? eat a pig, but not a horse. that makes sense? it appears there are beef eating horse lovers nationwide? save the horses but gut them pigs. gSs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:46:47 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: horse supposed dead gSs wrote: > > why is it ok to raise and slaughter nearly everything but horses? 'cos horses are just cows with go-faster stripes, but much better PR. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:12:13 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: horse supposed dead At 02:33 PM 9/27/2002 -0500, gSs wrote: >why is it ok to raise and slaughter >nearly everything but horses? Can a woman achieve orgasm by riding on the back of one of these other animals? I think not. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:12:51 -0700 From: drew Subject: glam slam >From: rosso@videotron.ca > > People keep bringing this fact up, but I don't see what difference > > it makes. What, is he too old to, like, "rock out" now? Did he > > become a brittle old man (of 50???) between the terrific songs on > > _Bram_ and the sedate stopgap of _Robyn Sings_? How come > > Bowie can make an album like _Heathen_ at 50 but Robyn has to > > write songs like "Mr. Kennedy"? I don't buy that at all. 60, 70, okay, > > maybe no more "NASA Clapping," but until then, it's no excuse. > >The complaint seems more parallel to wishing for another great glam >album from Bowie. No, I *really* don't think so. I'm not saying that I'm dissatisfied with Nextdoorland because it doesn't "rock out" like the old Soft Boys. I would have enjoyed that, but if all the songs had been pensive ballads I would still have been *thrilled*, provided they had something artistically vital about them. I only bring up the rock thing because I don't understand the reference to the ages of the Soft Boys. It's not as if I've been dissatisfied with any of Robyn's other material due to his age. It's all about the songs. I can barely listen to _Earthling_. _hours..._ is even worse. _Heathen_ is great, but I don't think it's just because it sounds more like his 70s stuff. I think it's because he actually wrote great songs in the 70s as opposed to just fucking around with loud guitars, beats, and nonsense lyrics. >I think there's a real vitality to the new SB. See, I don't, though like you I'm not unwilling to give the next CD a chance. Hell, I nearly gave up on Robyn after _Respect_ (a record that's taken me quite a while to warm to), and then I would have missed out on _Moss Elixir_. >I love the angular stuff of the Soft Boys. I prefer A Can of Bees > to Underwater Moonlight -- something >that seems to run contrary to the opinions of most fegs. I think UM is the better record and has the better songs on it, but I've slowly begun to prefer A Can of Bees because it has so many nooks and crannies. I feel the same way about Tori Amos; I think her best album as a package is Little Earthquakes by far, but it's the other albums I listen to more for their twists and turns and ups and downs. >I also see that material as a product of the times and of the >people (as they were) who made it. This is now, and I'm >OK with that. I really will try to stop beating this dead horse, but I have no problem with now. I just want now to be interesting in its own right. If this album had been my introduction to the Soft Boys, I would have liked it all right but would NEVER have become a fan. That's the only reason I make reference to what came before; I feel that I bought this album solely on the strength of what I already know of this band and its principal songwriter, and without that history the album is just pretty nice. >I sure wish Bowie would do another Laughing Gnome. *runs screaming* >From: Stewart Russell > >who is convinced that Beck was channelling the spirit of Nick Drake for >most of Sea Change. And did Nick show up? Was he fine? I swore off buying Beck albums after Midnite Vultures. But then I was never a big fan to begin with. >From: "Jason R. Thornton" >[Up] >It's definitely a lot darker and more complex than either "So" or "Us," and >its leagues more impressive than Gabriel's more recent releases "OVO" or >"Rabbit Proof Fence." I'd place it right up there with his 3rd and 4th >(Security) albums. That's high praise indeed. I'm tempted to give it a try, but I'm hesitant because he's such a Microsoft whore these days. I kind of want to write him and let him know that I preview albums via mp3 now and the unrippability of his album has cost him a sale, but I doubt he would care. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:13:42 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Robyn goes soft... Neil dominates Canada... ragas rock... Since this quote of Eb's keeps reappearing: >as if the long-term Beefheartian-rock-to-pleasant-jingle-jangle >evolution (de-evolution?) of his music suddenly would be reversed in >an instant. ... I thought I'd just say that, yeah, it's a long road from the Beefheartian squalor or "Queen of Eyes" and "Human Music" to the lyrically accessible, mainstream AOR of "Trilobite" and "Jewels for Sophia". Sorry... just talkin' 'bout Shaft... ______________ Ross: >>James! Neil Young should account for better than 2.5% of your >>collection, unless it's *huge*. In mine, counting the Springfield and CSNY and various other incarnations, I get about 2% Neil Young... around 50/2500. Did I get that right? Obviously my Canadian quotient is higher still, although Neil may/probably does dwarf all other Canadians combined... _____________ Ross: >>So did Richard Lloyd play hired gun anywhere >>else than Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend" or >>John Doe's 1st lp? Did Verlaine guest anywhere >>except Patti Smith's "Break it Up" & "Space >>Monkey"? Oh yeah... it's all here. http://www.marquee.demon.co.uk/facts/index.htm Recently updated and redesigned. Purty good stuff. _______ M. Godwin: >>Otherwise the crucial raga rock record over here was exactly the same >>as over there, namely McGuinn's Coltrane-influenced solo on "Eight Miles >>High". To me it's so funny how avocates of various bands compete to show that "their" guys did raga-rock first. "See My Friends" vs. "Paint It, Black" vs. "Love You To" vs. "8 Miles" (not to mention "Why")... does it count if they used a sitar? Does it count if they DIDN'T use a sitar? Thing is, I like all of those songs... but in the overall scheme of Rawk History, the raga didn't go all that far, did it? (Although if you keep following it, it takes you to some interesting places...) - -Rex "Rockin' Raga" Broome, already planning on picking up some Indian food on the way home. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:24:00 -0700 From: Eb Subject: giddyup #305 >From: drew > >What I WAS expecting was a >little more fire and depth than I feel I got. Well, what was the last Robyn album which sustained any real "fire"? "Fegmania," maybe? >From: "Rex.Broome" >1) I almost never sell anything back Yikes. Either you're terribly forgiving, or terribly shrewd in your shopping. >2) My CD collection includes just about every album I've ever bought in any >format. If nobody's been cool enough to put it out officially, I've >digitized and burned my own disc off my own LP or cassette. It's weird how some people seem to regard "my music collection" as practically synonymous with "my CD collection." And everything which *isn't* on CD is sort of a peripheral footnote to be apologized for. (Personally, about a third of my collection is still not-CD, and that's OK with me.) >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > >By nationality, England 37.4%; US 22.6%, NZ 16.2%, Australia 7.9%. >Scotland, Ireland and Canada each weigh in at over 2.5%. Mercy! I sometimes tally the US vs. UK distribution for my albums of a given *year*, but this...whew. You win the geek crown. I guess the above calculations somehow dovetail with your flag obsession.... >From: "ross taylor" > >So did Richard Lloyd play hired gun anywhere >else than Matthew Sweet's "Girlfriend" or >John Doe's 1st lp? Did Verlaine guest anywhere >except Patti Smith's "Break it Up" & "Space >Monkey"? Well, Verlaine made a notable appearance on Luna's Penthouse album. And according to CDNow, he also appeared on a Ric Ocasek disc. And Lloyd was on Sweet's Altered Beast, Earth and 100% Fun too. >From: Michael R Godwin > >PS Otherwise the crucial raga rock record over here was exactly the same >as over there, namely McGuinn's Coltrane-influenced solo on "Eight Miles >High". I dunno...I think I'd point to "Paint It Black." Saw Jimmy Gnecco of Ours at the Viper Room, last night. The big, heavy solo-acoustic showcase. Intense, mannnnn. Can you say "be-lay-bored"? I infuriated a couple of awestruck girlies near me, because I burst out laughing during one of the singer's more overwrought moments. That's life. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:27:02 -0400 From: "*FS Thomas*" Subject: Re: glam slam Regarding the new Gabriel album, US: - ----- Original Message ----- From: "drew" > > ...I kind of want to write him and let him know that I > preview albums via mp3 now and the unrippability of his > album has cost him a sale, but I doubt he would care. Well Us is definitely rippable. I needed some longer .wav files for a proof-of-concept multimedia project at work and tore it down without any problem. (Used CDex). - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:45:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Nextdoorland on 9/27/02 6:15 AM, Stewart Russell at stewart@gandalfgraphics.com wrote: > Tom Clark wrote: >> >> p.s. To whomever entered the Nextdoorland info into CDDB - "Soft Boys, >> The"?? > > makes perfect sense when you are ripping CDs; means all your MP3s don't > get filed under T. > File 'em any way you want, the name of the band is "The Soft Boys". Plus, any intelligent piece of software (e.g., iTunes) will account for this and alphabetize accordingly. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 13:45:04 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: glam slam At 01:12 PM 9/27/2002 -0700, drew wrote: >That's high praise indeed. I'm tempted to give it a try, >but I'm hesitant because he's such a Microsoft whore these >days. I kind of want to write him and let him know that I >preview albums via mp3 now and the unrippability of his >album has cost him a sale, but I doubt he would care. Well, the promo wasn't unrippable, and I've been previewing "Up" in MP3 format for over a month now. I just wonder who's going to pay $131 (before Ticketmaster fees) a ticket to go see him... Jason ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 16:53:14 -0400 From: "*FS Thomas*" Subject: Re: glam slam > I just wonder who's going to pay $131 (before Ticketmaster fees) a ticket > to go see him... He's playing one of the casinos here. There's two reasons why I *might* go: first, it's about a half hour from work and secondly (and more importantly so), a friend of mine is a sound and camera engineer in the arena there. If I can scam, then scam I will. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 15:54:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: giddyup #305 On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Eb wrote: > >From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) > > > >By nationality, England 37.4%; US 22.6%, NZ 16.2%, Australia 7.9%. > >Scotland, Ireland and Canada each weigh in at over 2.5%. > > Mercy! I sometimes tally the US vs. UK distribution for my albums of > a given *year*, but this...whew. You win the geek crown. I guess the > above calculations somehow dovetail with your flag obsession.... Dammit, I want my geek crown back! "T" Rex Broome wrut summat wot like: "overall raga didn't go far in rock." I'd either have to agree quite strongly, or disagree even more strongly, depending on how literally we're taking "raga." I don't think *any* of those records *really* incorporated raga, which is way more complex than what's usually referred to when someone says "raga rock." But then, when someone says "raga rock" they're usually just finding a fancy way of saying "modally inflected, vaguely non-Western-sounding rock." (Okay, it's a simple way of saying that.) And in *that* case, well, there are loads und loads of MIVNWS rock records out there, and there continue to be. (If I put together and cross-referenced a database of everyone listed in the "thank yous" on the recordings in my collection, could I have my geek crown back? My first guess as to the winner: this "God" character, whom I think was a session bassist working in Chicago in the mid-sixties.) - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey, bigger than Rod J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Some see things as they are, and say "Why?" ::Some see things as they could be, and say "Why not?" ::Some see things that aren't there, and say "Huh?" np: Elvis Costello _When I Was Cruel_ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:13:50 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Rated PG I for one love the new Peter Gabriel album. This was the album I was expecting to follow Security. Not that I don't like SO, I do, it was just such a pop album and he has such a dark style. US was a disappointment to me, he seemed to be trying to make SO again. I hope to pick up some tickets to his show tomorrow. As far as the Soft Boys disc, I really like it. I think overall it is very strong. Initially I did not care for Japanese Captain, it has really grown on me a lot. The Beck album is okay but is just SOOOOOOOOOOO soft rock. I was expecting something folksier. The disc is slathered in strings that sound like they came from a Pink Floyd album or even John Lennon's Walls And Bridges, I dunno, maybe it will grow on me. Right now I am looking forward to Side Three and the Luna release. Just bought a PT Cruiser GT, Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:11:53 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: I was bored, so... > Wiener! I have never been to Austria in my life! Or does it mean something else in the US? >c'mon now, surely no-one says that in the UK or NZ? It was always >" ... Wanker!" with a clear pause between the two utterances ah... I see. >Surely this thread is bollocks! Personally, I think shite is a better word for it (as long as you pronounce it to rhyme with light) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:16:59 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: I was bored, so... >On 28 Sep 2002 at 0:47, James Dignan wrote: > >> my CDs (excluding compilations). >> >> By nationality, England 37.4%; US 22.6%, NZ 16.2%, Australia 7.9%. >> Scotland, Ireland and Canada each weigh in at over 2.5%. > >James! Neil Young should account for better than 2.5% of your >collection, unless it's *huge*. amazingly, after all these years, he's still on the 'artists to further investigate' list. I have only three of his solo albums, plys two with Buffalo & Springfield and one with Walrus, Stills, & Nash. I am a little surprised that Canada doesn't weigh in with more that 2.7% though, although perhaps my feeling for Canadian music is better measured in intensity that quantity. There is very little Canadian music that I know which I feel neutral about. Either I love it or it's by that Dion woman. I think if I recalculated based on how many different artists of each nationality.... but I wasn't THAT bored. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:24:24 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: I was bored, so... >On 28 Sep 2002 at 0:47, James Dignan wrote: > >> my CDs (excluding compilations). >> >> By nationality, England 37.4%; US 22.6%, NZ 16.2%, Australia 7.9%. >> Scotland, Ireland and Canada each weigh in at over 2.5%. > >James! Neil Young should account for better than 2.5% of your >collection, unless it's *huge*. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:24:31 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #305 Ross (with a T, not an O this time) said: >And I'm not >as familiar w/ John Renbourne & Bert Jansch >[sp?sp?] as I should be. Anyway I think some >of this folk style gets into his electric style. Renbourn and Jansch. Ah yes. Hie thee to a 'Best of Pentangle' collection immediately! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:33:08 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: Rated PG On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 06:13 PM, Maximilian Lang wrote: > I for one love the new Peter Gabriel album. Ditto > As far as the Soft Boys disc, I really like it. I think overall it is > very strong. A less stronger ditto, but it's growing on me. I went back to "Jewels For Sophia" for the afternoon - what a brilliant disc. > The Beck album is okay but is just SOOOOOOOOOOO soft rock. I was > expecting something folksier. I am totally digging his latest, and tell me he isn't channeling (among many others) "Magical Mystery Tour", especially "I Am The Walrus on track #4, "Lonesome Tears"! - -Steve np - The Strokes ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 18:34:52 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: glam slam >From: "Jason R. Thornton" >I just wonder who's going to pay $131 (before Ticketmaster fees) a ticket >to go see him... > >Jason Wow, in Philly it's 97 for the better seats 47 for the rest. ME! Max (PG fan since 1983) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:45:04 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: 0% Nextdoorland Content The Quail speaketh: > Also good -- Beck's "Sea Change" is beautifully depressing, like Cave's > "Boatman's Call," or a Leonard Cohen or Nick Drake album. I *really* like it > -- and there's some great touches in the production. Damn straight, picked it up tonight and it has just floored me. The Drake comparison is spooky, there's two or three songs that you drop into "Five Leaves Left" without trouble. I could easily include it when starting a top ten for 2002... 1. Rush "Vapor Trails" 2. Dave Alvin & The Guilty Men "Out in California" 3. SB's "Nextdoorland" 4. Beck "Sea Change" 5. Jorma Kaukonen "Blue Country Heart" etc... I'm also pretty curious about Yo La Tengo's "The Sounds of the Sounds of Science"...anybody cough up for this one yet? (more info at http://www.yolatengo.com/audio/merch.html ) Michael "pictures at an exhibitionist" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 22:23:18 -0400 From: mary Subject: Enhanced, Death, Horses, and Scary Monsters Drew said: >days. I kind of want to write him and let him know that I >preview albums via mp3 now and the unrippability of his >album has cost him a sale, but I doubt he would care. I'm working on a high-paying project and to celebrate I went and bought a bunch of cds. Unfortunately for this project I need to work onsite so I'm now trying to listen to these cds on a laptop. And I'm extremely pissed about the "enhanced" cds. Has anyone tried the magic marker trick? Does this work? I'd gladly give up the video or two that come on the enhanced cds if I could only listen to them on a computer. On to Death, one of my favourite topics... I didn't see it in any of the posts but did no one notice that Katrin Cartlidge had died on September 11th? I know there are a bunch of Mike Leigh fans here so I was surprised to not see this news. Horses (and pigs and cows oh my), about which Jason stated: >Can a woman achieve orgasm by riding on the back of one of these other >animals? I think not. Does anyone know a woman who has achieve an orgasm while riding? I've been riding since I was a little girl and have never had the pleasure ; 0 And I know women who've ridden for over 40 years and they can't think of a single women who has claimed this achievement. Just curious... And finally, monsters - I'm so psyched that Kaiju Big Battel is coming back to New York. Quail can attest to the "unparalleled levels of chaos and destruction" caused by a "monstrous mob of maniacal villains, menacing alien beasts, and giant, city-crushing monsters." Have any other fegs had the pleasure of witnessing a Big Battel? s.Mary np - Interpol, Turn on the Bright Lights ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 23:22:23 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Enhanced, Death, Horses, and Scary Monsters On Friday, September 27, 2002, at 09:23 PM, mary wrote: > I'm working on a high-paying project and to celebrate I went > and bought a bunch of cds. Unfortunately for this project I need > to work onsite so I'm now trying to listen to these cds on a > laptop. And I'm extremely pissed about the "enhanced" cds. > Has anyone tried the magic marker trick? Does this work? I'd > gladly give up the video or two that come on the enhanced > cds if I could only listen to them on a computer. "Enhanced" doesn't necessarily mean copy protected. I think that every enhanced CD I've put in a computer has launched the video first. I've had luck just launching an audio app and having it take over the CD. Worked this week with the new PG disc on my PC at work. Waiting for Nextdoorland and a few other things from Amazon - Steve __________ The official U.S. government message on how citizens should decide about going to war is, "Don't worry your pretty little heads about it." - - Michael Kinsley ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #306 ********************************