From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #276 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, September 5 2002 Volume 11 : Number 276 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: soft machine/how come... [Michael R Godwin ] Wire: Read and Burn 02 Available [Miles Goosens ] Re: Prog party at my house ["Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." ] 24 hour party people [Caroline Smith ] soft boys chicago [guapo stick ] Re: Quail gets his wish (NR) ["Daniel L. Cotten" ] Re: 24 hour party people [Ken Weingold ] the 21st century Doors, and various movies ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: stars on [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] speaking of the Doors ["Jason R. Thornton" ] Re: stars on [Fric Chaud ] Re: dj robyn robyn [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] the departure Lounge Tour ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: mac attack [glen uber ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 14:43:15 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: soft machine/how come... > On Thursday, August 29, 2002, at 10:03 AM, Marshall Needleman Armintor > wrote: > > ...no one ever grabbed me by the collar, shoved a copy of the second > > Soft Machine album in my face and said, "YOU have _got_ to listen to > > this!"? On Thu, 29 Aug 2002, steve wrote: > I hope you have the 1st album as well, and there as several live albums > from the early period, some of which are excellent. Third is also good. Also strongly recommended is the 1967 set of demos which features the original lineup including Daevid Allen and Kevin Ayers and was IIRC produced by Giorgio Gomelsky. I've got the "At the beginning" LP but I understand that the same record exists as a CD called "Jet propelled photographs". See for track listing. - - Mike Godwin n.p. Love makes sweet music - Soft Machine ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 08:57:48 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Wire: Read and Burn 02 Available In case you haven't heard, Wire's READ AND BURN 02, the second in their series of limited-run releases of completely new material, is now available - -- but will only be sold at http://www.posteverything.com and at their tour stops this fall. No retail, no other mail order, just from the site and at the shows. (Incidentally, the North American tour begins tonight, in Denver.) Posteverything buyers also get a freebie included with R&B02: the "WIRE designed fragrance 'The smell of YOU.'" Be very afraid. For those of you who haven't yet had the head-in-wind-tunnel experience of READ AND BURN 01, it too is still available at posteverything. that's the lowdown, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 09:33:49 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Wire tour date correction I had said that the Wire tour begins tonight in Denver -- it actually starts on FRIDAY the 6TH of September. I had the Denver part right, though. Here's the N. American dates, straight from posteverything.com: >FRI 6 DENVER CO - Bluebird Theater >SAT 7 SAN DIEGO CA - Casbah >SUN 8 LOS ANGELES CA - El Rey Theater >MON 9 SAN FRANCISCO CA - Fillmore >TUE 10 SEATTLE WA - Showbox >WED 11 PORTLAND OR - Crystal Ballroom >FRI 13 MINNEAPOLIS MN - First Avenue >SAT 14 CHICAGO IL - Metro >SUN 15 TORONTO ON - Lee's Palace >TUE 17 CAMBRIDGE MA - Middle East (Down) >WED 18 NEW YORK NY - Irving Plaza >THUR 19 PHILADELPHIA PA - Gasoline (Making Time event) >FRI 20 WASHINGTON DC- 9:30 Club >SAT 21 ATLANTA GA - Echo Lounge >SUN 22 AUSTIN TX - La Zona Rosa > >SPECIAL GUESTS > >The Standard from Portland >all west coast dates except Seattle >The Oxes from Baltimore >Cambridge through to Atlanta later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 07:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Prog party at my house > From: "The Real Mr. Feg" > > Yay! Proggies rule! Fegmaniax' secret vices are revealed: Gong, Caravan, > Gentle Giant, Soft Machine, Hatfield and The North. Oh yes, many a cold > winter evening was spent waiting to get into Guildford Civic Hall to see > one of those illustrious artists. We're gonna need extensive details about this, I'm afraid. When I sit down on the sofa in front of my hi-fi rig, album sleeve in hand, I imagine doing just that: seeing those illustrious artists live. So do tell. I can imagine that a Soft Machine gig must have been quite a freak scene. > The memories come flooding back. Time to dig out that turntable, I > think... I've got one! You bring the stout and a few LPs and we'll relive the days when bands were clever and had chops. . Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: reap http://www.napster.com/bye.jpg - -- http://glasshotel.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:18:44 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: 24 hour party people http://www.mgm.com/ua/24hourpartypeople/ Has anyone else seen this yet? I saw it last night, and it was fantastic. And funny ... so funny and well-written. The perfect movie about the Manchester music scene. Let me know what you thought... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 11:17:44 -0700 From: guapo stick Subject: soft boys chicago ticketmaster.com is listing an online sale date of september 7th for tickets for the soft boys show at metro in chicago. https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=400352482CC1449 the metro website neglects to mention the show so who knows if they will be onsale at their box office earlier or not. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 10:28:49 -0700 From: "Daniel L. Cotten" Subject: Re: Quail gets his wish (NR) At 9:33 PM -0500 9/3/02, steve wrote: >Some not too favorable Signs reviews - > >http://www.locusmag.com/2002/Reviews/Lalumiere08_Signs.html I made it this far: >And it's that fragility that Shyamalan tapped into to create both >The Sixth Sense and Unbreakable, two uncommonly moving supernatural >films, grand in scope, yet intimate in execution. >Fine. Let him indulge. Obviously, it's what makes his muse sing, and >twice in a row it sang a marvellously beautiful song. I didn't know that anyone actually liked Unbreakable. I thought it was Unbearable. I'll give Signs a chance before I check out any reviews. dc - -- Damn braces. Bless relaxes. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 12:40:41 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: 24 hour party people On Wed, Sep 4, 2002, Caroline Smith wrote: > Has anyone else seen this yet? > > I saw it last night, and it was fantastic. > > And funny ... so funny and well-written. > > The perfect movie about the Manchester music scene. > > Let me know what you thought... Yeah, saw it a couple of weeks ago. I thought it was great. And Steve Coogan was awesome. Couldn't have been better. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 13:08:28 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: the 21st century Doors, and various movies I had a pretty busy Labor Day weekend, which ended with an hour-long "new" Doors show yesterday at the House of Blues on the Sunset Strip in Hollywood. I won tickets from the House of Blues website that Marc posted here. Everybody in the small audience had obtained tickets either through a radio contest on some LA classic rock station (KLOS) or via the online drawing. It seemed like maybe 100 people or so were there. They even had a free buffet set up for everybody. The crowd was so thin, I ended up front and center. The first public appearance of this "new version" of the band consisted of four songs (Roadhouse Blues, Strange Days, Love Me Two Times and When the Music's Over) and a lot of interviewing in between, conducted by a seemingly famous DJ from the station, Jim Dodd (or Dodge?). John Densmore did not end up playing, reportedly due to illness, and was replaced by Stewart Copeland. They also had some young guy on bass guitar from Krieger's band and the Doors VH-1 Storytellers special who looked like he should be in the Goo Goo Dolls. Manzarek did most of the talking, although they did interview all five guys, going on and on about how this wasn't a "tribute band" and how "Jim would've dug it." Manzarek also got into a short political debate with the DJ when he advocated that we all "like [they] used to say in the 60s, make love not war." This was after noting that he wanted to re-record their new arrangement of Strange Days with some middle eastern musicians. Manzarek referred to this band a number of times as the "21st Century Doors," or "the Door reborn for the new millennium." Even when they came out, they had the announcer say "no one is hear to relive past glories," to which Copeland shouted "I AM!" Astbury's performance was a lot more subtle than I expected. Still, you got the sense he was imitating Morrison to some degree, without Morrison's dynamics. Overall, however, he and the rest of the band smoked. I went expecting a train wreck, and walked away rather impressed. Manzarek noted that they plan to start recording soon and will hopefully have a new release ready sometime in 2003. If they actually get some new material together, I might just buy some of Manzarek's claims that they aren't just raiding the past. These new Doors are performing an obviously much longer concert to a much larger audience this Friday at the LA Speedway if anyone in the area is remotely interested. At 11:18 AM 9/4/2002 -0400, Caroline Smith wrote: >http://www.mgm.com/ua/24hourpartypeople/ > >Has anyone else seen this yet? > >I saw it last night, and it was fantastic. > >And funny ... so funny and well-written. > >The perfect movie about the Manchester music scene. > >Let me know what you thought... I saw this on Monday. I also found it really quite funny and very clever, but I thought it was a tad unfocused. At 10:28 AM 9/4/2002 -0700, Daniel L. Cotten wrote: >I didn't know that anyone actually liked Unbreakable. It's not my favorite movie by any means, but I liked it about a thousand times better than The Sixth Sense, possibly because I figured out the "punchline" to the Sixth Sense in the first scene. And, like a Twilight Zone episode, there really isn't much to the film without the "big surprise." I saw "Signs" on Saturday, which was mediocre at best. Without going into specifics and risking spoilers, I'll just say that Shyamalan sucks eggs when it comes to character development, dialogue and plot. But, he handles the suspenseful/horror elements very well, without relying on a bunch of cheesy special effects or cheap gore to get his point across, so it's sort of a mixed bag. Most of Gibson's character's interaction with his family and coming to grips with his past bordered on stupid. Well, not so much "bordered on" as took up residence deep within. Also rented In The Bedroom and Amelie this weekend. Both were terrific. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 16:34:05 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: dj robyn robyn The re-mix is very much my sort of thing -- so much so I'm interested in what else he plays, recommends. Always like it when folk music gets danceable ... like folk rock. You should remind us about this when the list is more active. - --- James' ghost ships-- "This is Rossville ..." Creaky. Stuck in mud. Decrepit. Falling apart. Abandoned. Forgotten. Accurate. :) Well, some. Ross Taylor Isn't "She Was Poor But She Was Honest" an bawdy Victorian song? Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 10:43:03 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: stars on >Sorry the guillemets were translate by smoe. it's not a cormorant, it's not a shag... Sorry - couldn't resist James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 15:52:27 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: speaking of the Doors You can see photos of the event (and the back of my head in two shot - hint, Robby Krieger is standing right above it on the bottom one, and Ian Astbury is in the bottom right corner of the third from the bottom) at the KLOS website: http://www.955klos.com/viewentry.asp?ID=227793&PT=Jocks The DJs name was Jim Ladd. Isn't it weird that I can recognize myself from behind? - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 19:00:32 -0400 From: Fric Chaud Subject: Re: stars on On 5 Sep 2002 at 10:43, James Dignan wrote: > >Sorry the guillemets were translate by smoe. > > it's not a cormorant, it's not a shag... More as: "Oomba oomba oomba oomba oomba oomba oom", I think.-- Fric Chaud ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:35:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: dj robyn robyn On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, ross taylor wrote: > The re-mix is very much my sort of thing -- so > much so I'm interested in what else he plays, > recommends. Always like it when folk music > gets danceable ... like folk rock. Oh hell - lost the URL. Repost please? Thanks. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::"Shut up, you truculent lout, and let the cute little pixie sing!":: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 22:27:33 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: the departure Lounge Tour For those of you interested the departure Lounge are going to be touring. I don't have any detail except that they will be playing the North Star Bar in Philly on Oct. 11th. Max _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:45:22 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Re: mac attack On Thursday, September 5, 2002, at 06:41 AM, Caroline Smith wrote: > And how cool to be part of the exclusive mac-users feg list! I'm > wondering > what the rest of you are planning on doing about the new cost for the > mac.com e-mail accounts? Are you paying or are you dropping it? My wife and I are both dropping ours, unfortunately. I own 4 domains and am planning to purchase another, so I have my choice of e-mail addresses, actually. Since I was using my own servers for web space, I was never really into using anything but the mail feature, anyway. So all the other mac.com "improvements" really are not a selling point for me. Cheers! - -g- ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #276 ********************************