From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #270 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 28 2002 Volume 11 : Number 270 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas [MPys2626@aol.com] More ghost ship tunes ["Rex.Broome" ] Re: songs of the haunted seas [SIMON50@aol.com] Re: More ghost ship tunes [Stewart Russell ] spooknauts [drew ] Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas [rosso@videotron.ca] RE: More ghost ship tunes ["Bachman, Michael" ] iPod info [Eleanore Adams ] Re: More ghost ship tunes [Ken Ostrander ] Re: iPod info [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: More ghost ship tunes ["glen uber" ] Ghost ships [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] ghost ships [rtaylor@dlalaw.com] ghost ships redux [rtaylor@dlalaw.com] Re: Ghost ships ["Daniel L. Cotten" ] Re: More ghost ship tunes ["Mike Wells" ] Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas ["Marc Holden" ] Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas ["Brian Hoare" ] Did you guys know about this? [The Great Quail ] Re: Ghost ships [Stewart Russell ] Re: Ghost ships [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Re: Gang broose thae wab steids! (0% RH) [Michael R Godwin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:58:03 EDT From: MPys2626@aol.com Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas Nantucket Sleighride - - Mountain http://www.mitchworldusa.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:02:06 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: More ghost ship tunes >>Are ghostships "in" this year? Hmm, I dunno. They should be. They will be! >>I also think that Gordon Lightfoot's "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" has a very >>spooky vibe to it. Yeah, that's becoming a must. >>there's always "Reuben James", as sung at times by Woody Guthrie and >>Pete Seeger, but it's a bit upbeat to feel really doomed. I have a few versions of that. Yeah, a little upbeat in presentation, but maybe... >>Wreck of the Arthur Lee? I think there's room for another Robyn track, so maybe that one, although I'm leaning towards "Polly on the Shore" or "Luminous Rose". That's some creepy stuff. >>"Atlantis" by Donovan. I'm appalled that I didn't think of that one. >>"Kill Surf City" by The Jesus & Mary Chain. You betcha. >>"Death Ship" by the Hoodoo Gurus? Sounds promising... dare I start soliciting MP3's? Thanks to everyone! _______________ Can any of you old folkies (both terms being relative) recommend a definitive version of "Molly Malone"? There's a fishy ghost for ya. Also, who know the Saints (James)? They appear to have songs named both "Ghost Ships" and "Shipwreck". Also up for consideration and already in my collection: "Barracuda"-- the John Cale and Standells songs "Shark Attack", Split Enz "Shark", Throwing Muses "Bermuda", Roky Erickson "Sea Hag", Miracle Legion "Rock Lobster", B-52's "Down in the Beast", Jon Spencer (Jonah and the Whale-type scenario) "Someone (Rock Stars on the Marie Celeste", Mekons (I know, it's a stretch) "Shipwreck Blues", Bessie Smith "Drowning", English Beat "Palace of the Brine", Pixies Source music from Jaws, Pirates of the Carribbean, etc. I also need some good sound effects and sound bites. These discs are pretty elaborate constructions; I use soundbites from movies, kid's records, etc. to build up atmosphere. I'm sort of a connosieur of shitty vintage haunted-house sound effects records and tapes, but the only "ghost ship"-py thing I can think of is the shipwreck band on the old Disney "Chilling Thrilling Sounds of the Haunted House" LP. I can lift some choice lines from "Jaws", the deathless "Deep Rising", etc... >>You wouldnt be putting all this on a CDR, by any chance? Oh hell yeah. I'll happily send out a copy of this or any of the other 13 or so themed Halloween collections I've done over the years (Vampires, Witches, Ghosts, Psycho Killers, Aliens, etc). E-mail me for the horrifying details. Mixmaster Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:54:28 EDT From: SIMON50@aol.com Subject: Re: songs of the haunted seas Great theme! You can't leave out Brecht-Weill's "Pirate Jenny" -- many versions around. simon50@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:59:52 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: More ghost ship tunes Rex.Broome wrote: > > "Rock Lobster", B-52's well, if we're going to get *that* silly, how about "Octopus's Garden"? I one-quarter-remember a (folky) song about a lighthouse crew that disappeared, and all they found was three cormorants... scared the crap out of me when I heard it when I was little. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:19:40 -0700 From: drew Subject: spooknauts >From: "Rex.Broome" >Subject: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas How about Future Bible Heroes' misogynist ditty "She-Devils of the Deep" from _Memories of Love_? And Ween's _The Mollusk_ is filled with the spooky and nautical. - - drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:25:12 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas Hi kids! I'm back, but busy making music for awhile. How about: Tales of Brave Ulysses - Cream. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:18:20 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: More ghost ship tunes It does involve the sea, ships and sirens instead of ghostly ships, how about Tim Buckley's Song to the Siren? A great cover of it was done by Liz Frazier of the Cocteau Twins on This Mortal Coil's first album It'll End in Tears. Michael NP Rainy Day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:30:57 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas Doors: Horse Latitudes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:34:35 -0700 From: "glen uber" Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas rosso@videotron.ca earnestly scribbled: >Doors: Horse Latitudes Crystal Ship, too. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Most people don't know what they're doing, and a lot of them are really good at it." - -- George Carlin glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:11:59 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: iPod info Guys - DO Not update your ipod!!! there is a horrible bug that will screw with your battery life. Apple has not had a clue what is wrong. They say it may be the new clock feature, but i don't know. What I do know is after updating and recharging my iPod it dies every hour it is used. eleanore ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 17:02:12 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: More ghost ship tunes >"Someone (Rock Stars on the Marie Celeste", Mekons (I know, it's a stretch) try something from their album with kathy acker, "pussy, queen of the pirates" or even 'ghosts of american astronauts' (from "so good it hurts") if you're stretching. also, you might consider: junk barge by sally timms ride, captain ride by blues image i'm your captain by grand funk railroad ghost ship in a storm by jim o'rourke if i'm drowning by over the rhine new orleans is sinking by tragically hip ghost by the sea by chavez ship of fools by world party ship song by nick cave river of fever by flesh eaters down by the water by pj harvey and just for shits and giggles, talkin' bear mountain picnic massacre blues by zimmerman kudos on the 'night boat' by double duran. for some reason, i can hear the refrain ("and we would all go down together...") from billy brinkley's 'goodnight saigon'. 'titanic'? consider some dialogue from one or both 'cape fear' flicks. 'treasure island' and 'the bounty' might yield some good soundbites. something from scooby doo when they had to deal with the ghost ship might be good as well. and you should definitely get some of quint from 'jaws' singing "fairwell and adeiu to you dear spanish ladies". ken "lost in the flood" the kenster ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:05:14 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: iPod info - -- Eleanore Adams is rumored to have mumbled on Dienstag, 27. August 2002 14:11 Uhr -0700 regarding iPod info: > Guys - DO Not update your ipod!!! there is a horrible bug that will screw > with your battery life. Apple has not had a clue what is wrong. They say > it may be the new clock feature, but i don't know. What I do know is > after updating and recharging my iPod it dies every hour it is used. I just bought one used from a friend of mine (he got the 20 GB one instead). It's already updated. The battery drained pretty quickly the first time I used it, but then I recharged it fully and up to now it's been behaving very nicely since. But I've heard about this problem; probably there will be another update shortly. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 15:47:02 -0700 From: "glen uber" Subject: Re: More ghost ship tunes Ken earnestly scribbled: >kudos on the 'night boat' by double duran. for some reason, i can hear >the refrain ("and we would all go down together...") from billy >brinkley's 'goodnight saigon'. 'titanic'? consider some dialogue from >one or both 'cape fear' flicks. 'treasure island' and 'the bounty' might >yield some good soundbites. something from scooby doo when they had to >deal with the ghost ship might be good as well. and you should >definitely get some of quint from 'jaws' singing "fairwell and adeiu to >you dear spanish ladies". While you're at it, you should throw "A Pirate's Life" from Disneyland's Pirates of the Caribbean into the mix. - -- Cheers! - -g- "To prevent terrorism by dropping bombs on Iraq is such an obvious idea that I can't think why no one has thought of it before. It's so simple. If only the UK had done something similar in Northern Ireland, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today." - --Terry Jones glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:48:41 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Ghost ships >Anyway, my friend's doing me one better this year and adding a theme on top >of it-- he's doing up his place as a "ghost ship". Anchor me, by the Muttonbirds Morse Moose and the Grey Goose, by Wings Lety her go down, by Steeleye Span The blue lagoon, by Laurie Anderson One of our submarines is missing, by Thomas Dolby Song to the siren, by This Mortal Coil (or Tim Buckley, for that matter) Submarine Bells, by the Chills Life in dark water, by Al Stewart Empty Frame, by Eno and Cale All you pretty girls, by XTC (or, Wait till your boat goes down) Ships, by Split Enz Ships just don't disappear in the night, by 10CC maybe a few of these are too bouncy to be spooky, but some are definites... For extra spookiness, I'd throw in Echoes, by Pink Floyd, for good measure. James PS - those of you I owe replies to, sorry they're taking so long, it's been an, erm, interesting, couple of weeks. James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:22:11 -0400 From: rtaylor@dlalaw.com Subject: ghost ships Eudoramail is having problems; plus we've just started getting so much spam here I'm no longer concerned about having this address out on the web. - --- I love these Halloween threads. I think I mentioned the Hoodoo Gurus' "Another Ghost Ship" last year. Their "Death Defying" is also at least death & ocean related. I guess same could be said for the Chills' "Submarine Bells." Procol Harum is a good source: their hit "A Salty Dog" is a ghost ship song - -- "a sand so white, a sea so blue/ no mortal place at all" Plus "The Wreck of the Hesperus" on that same album. "Luminous Rose" "The Crystal Ship"? Hell, throw in "Wooden Ships" and "My Heart Will Go On" "Flight 505"? -- "Set the plane down in the sea/ the end of flight number five ooohhh five"? Well it sounds good remixed! Ross Taylor "hard knox and durty sox" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:32:35 -0400 From: rtaylor@dlalaw.com Subject: ghost ships redux Two people die at sea, then their boat is seen being rowed home by two white statues instead -- sounds like a ghost ship to me! Ross Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:14:08 -0700 From: "Daniel L. Cotten" Subject: Re: Ghost ships Hello Earth--Kate Bush maybe-- Jig of Life--Kate Bush; I think this has an apropos monologue. dc - -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 18:00:51 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: More ghost ship tunes > While you're at it, you should throw "A Pirate's Life" from Disneyland's > Pirates of the Caribbean into the mix. Dammit, that's the one I was trying to think of! Good call, Glen. My wife had never been to Ratworld, so when we went to Florida this past April I felt she had to go on Pirates. Of course the ride broke twice, the second time with us stopped right underneath the speaker that proclaims "dead men tell no tales" quite loudly. For five minutes. Michael "I can still hear it to this day" Wells Oh, and Rex if you want to some creaky ghost ship sounds: right in the middle of Iron Maiden's tribute to the Coleridge opus "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" there's a couple of minutes of nothing BUT creaky ghost ship sounds (and they're good ones, too). This is followed by a recitation of some of the Coleridge text verbatim..."then one by one, by the star-dogged moon" that sort of thing. If you want, email me at home tonight braneout@earthlink.net and I'll sample it for you. I know Quail probably has Powerslave out already... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 16:55:07 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas Ship's a Going Down--The Residents The Sailor Song--The ResidentsW/Renaldo & the Loaf Sea Epic--Crack the Sky Wait Till Your Doat Goes Down---XTC Friggin' in the Riggin'--Sex Pistol Three Days in a Leaky Boat--Split Endz Night Ride To Trinidad--RH Luminous Rose--RH&E ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:37:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: RE: More ghost ship tunes Forgot a few myself.... "The Anchor Song" Bjork (preferably Unplugged version, sounds more like a sea shanty) "Here comes the flood" by Peter Gabriel "Raiders of the lost ARK" theme song for laughs "Michael Row Your Boat ashore" Johnny cash "Oceans" Pearl Jam "Do The Manta Ray" Pixies B-Side (they have some other Sea type/alien songs) That is all I can think of now... signing off... Herbie np-> "The Farewell bend" Frank Black & The Catholics ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 08:24:42 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas >Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas > > > So I need songs that are both "spooky" and "nautical" > I'll second the Stormwatch rec's. Others that come to mind: Britten : 4 Sea Interludes (extracted from Peter Grimes) op33a. Of these I would probably use Storm. RH: Luminous Rose. I really like this, although many do not.Also the Dead Wife song. There must be hundreds of good candidates in the folk canon. Stuff that comes close but doesn't quite make it: Sloop John B. Not spooky but Wilson sounds increasingly harrowed. Dead Kennedys, Moon over Marin. Set on the coast and spooky in a post apocalyptic manner. Hendrix, 1983. Too long but the first section as he retreats to sea is effective. Cracker, Doctor Bernice. Set on land but the siren imagery is superb. Hawkwind, PXR5. If it was a sailing ship and not a space ship it would fit. Beefheart, Yellow Claw Hammer. Pressganged mariner returns to land to befriend young girl presumed daughter. Pentangle, Cruel Sister. A bit long and folksy. Knight woos two sisters, knight favours fair sister, dark sister drowns fair sister, minstrels fashion harp from fair sister's breastbone and hair, minstrels play at dark sister's wedding, harp sings of murder betraying dark sister. Bad Ideas. FZ Let Me take You To The Beach, Homer Simpson singing Under the Sea, Puff The Magic Dragon. Brian Fournier, Bach's Cello Suites _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:44:02 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas Wasn't this the theme tune for Weekend World with Brian Waldren? Presumably the sleigh ride would be on a *frozen* sea, no? Cheers Matt >From: MPys2626@aol.com >Reply-To: MPys2626@aol.com >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:58:03 EDT > >Nantucket Sleighride - - Mountain > > http://www.mitchworldusa.net/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:37:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, matt sewell wrote: > Wasn't this the theme tune for Weekend World with Brian Waldren? > > Presumably the sleigh ride would be on a *frozen* sea, no? > >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:58:03 EDT > >Nantucket Sleighride - - Mountain I believe the term referred to a whaling ship being tossed about in foul weather - not a literal sleighride. (That's why it belongs on this tape.) I don't suppose you're including "The Can-Opener" just for laughs, at the end or something? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::[clever or pithy quote]:: __[source of quote]__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:27:32 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Nantucket sleighride >>> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 14:58:03 EDT > >Nantucket Sleighride - - Mountain > > I believe the term referred to a whaling ship being tossed about in foul > weather - not a literal sleighride. (That's why it belongs on this tape.) Not exactly -- it had more to do with the whaling boats and their prey. To hunt a Sperm Whale, you had to launch a few small boats, each manned by six crazy guys. The harpooner would toss his barbed iron into the whale, who would usually then zoom away, unwinding the attached rope at a frightening speed. Once this rope was chocked, or fastened, the boat would be dragged along with the whale at speeds up to 40mph. This crazed and often dangerous ride was sometimes called a "Nantucket sleighride." I believe the whales called it, "Get these crazy motherfuckers off my fucking back." - --Quailqueg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Great Quail, Keeper of the Libyrinth: http://www.TheModernWord.com "Doubts of all things earthly, and intuitions of some things heavenly; this combination makes neither believer nor infidel, but makes a man who regards them both with an equal eye." --Herman Melville, "Moby Dick" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:58:53 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Did you guys know about this? in just- in Just- spring when the world is mud- luscious the little lame balloonman whistles far and wee and eddieandbill come running from marbles and piracies and it's spring when the world is puddle-wonderful the queer old balloonman whistles far and wee and bettyandisbel come dancing from hop-scotch and jump-rope and it's spring and the goat-footed balloonMan whistles far and wee e.e. cummings ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:08:11 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Ghost ships if you have to inject an 80s note: "One Of Our Submarines" -- Thomas Dolby you can't get much more doomed than that. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:19:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Ghost ships On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, Stewart Russell wrote: > if you have to inject an 80s note: > > "One Of Our Submarines" -- Thomas Dolby I'll second this, and also note that someone ought to release a concordance edition of _The Golden Age of Wireless_ containing the full-length versions of this and the other songs on the _Blinded by Science_ ep, the early singles "Leipzig" and, uh, the other one whose title slips my mind, and both versions of "Radio Silence." I'm particularly fond of the full version of "Submarines" and "Flying North." That's an underrated album, I think, and to my ears dates less tryingly than a lot of synth-based '80s albums. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::The more you drive, the less intelligent you are:: __Miller, in REPO MAN__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:24:36 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Gang broose thae wab steids! (0% RH) On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Stewart Russell wrote: > This is for real, and it's been making me giggle all day: > Mozilla in Scots: http://scots.jriddell.org/ > (whose mail client now says 'Frae:' and 'Tae:'; how cool is that?) Stewart, you must skim through Naomi Mitchison's "The Bull Calves", which is set among the Haldane and Erskine families in 1747 and is written in a slightly cleaned-up Lallans. Words like 'sculduddery', 'gey' and 'forby' abound. I hadn't previously realised that NM was the sister of well-known scientist J B S Haldane. - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:55:21 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Request: Songs of the Haunted Seas On Wed, 28 Aug 2002, matt sewell wrote: > Wasn't this the theme tune for Weekend World with Brian Waldren? Walden. Yes. I Just read Roy Hattersley's memoirs, where every interview he goes for to become a prospective candidate, Labour Party officer or whatever, Brian Walden is slightly ahead of him in the short list. Of course this would be some time ago. > Presumably the sleigh ride would be on a *frozen* sea, no? See Quail's comprehensive explanation. My contributions: "Ocean" by the Velvet Underground (or the less interesting solo version by Lou); and how can you have forgotten: "The White Ship" by H P Lovecraft Am I the only sixties flower person on this list? Oh. - - Mike Godwin PS You can see a rather dark image of the excellent ghost ship commissioned by Annie Beardsley for the 2000 Bath Festival here: http://www.enlightenedlighting.connectingbusiness.com/show.htm Click on the image to get an enlargement. There were ghostly figures all over the deck clanging and clunking at various ghoulish percussion instruments. Impressive! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 15:33:49 -0400 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: Ghost ships Phil Ochs' "The Scorpion Departs (And Never Returns)" about a submarine that vanished John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #270 ********************************