From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #265 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 22 2002 Volume 11 : Number 265 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Ye Olde profiling debate... ["matt sewell" ] Re: classic Soft Boys Poster [Michael R Godwin ] Re: classic Soft Boys Poster [Brian ] soft boys minneapolis [guapo stick ] Re: soft boys minneapolis ["Jason Koffman" ] RE: Snowballing squids ["Scott McCleary" ] Re: Snowballing squids ["Cat Scat Fever" ] More Byrds and flying saucers... ["Rex.Broome" ] What the Hell? [Brian ] Re: What the Hell? [Stewart Russell ] Re: What the Hell? ["Cat Scat Fever" ] Re: What the Hell? ["glen uber" ] Setlist for Rams Head Gig for Robyn ["Mark Truslow" ] soft boys seattle [guapo stick ] Re: soft boys seattle [Randallriebe@aol.com] "Zappa My Soul....." (0% RH) [Mike Swedene ] Almazonia [Stewart Russell ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:48:23 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Ye Olde profiling debate... Are *all* types of profiling wrong? http://www.satirewire.com/news/july02/profiling.shtml Cheers Matt PS Is everyone off on their hols or something? Anywhere nice? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:40:54 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: classic Soft Boys Poster On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Nuppy wrote: > Has anyone seen this? $49.98 is a bit steep, but it would be a good > scan for the vaults. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=900689053 Is the 1984 date correct? The Soft Boys were well defunct by that date, but perhaps this was a reissue. > PS can someone please send me the link that shows Nick Winkworths > old Soft Boys posters and flyers. I've deleted it mistakenly. http://www.njaz.com/nick/ - - click on 'Soft Boys stuff'. - - Mike Godwin PS I see that Eb hears "Give me a _part_ of rock'n'roll", same as I do. When this was previously raised, the consensus was that this word was _pod_, which fits better with "only a poisonous plant and it's calling your name". Eb, did you have a lyric sheet? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:07:36 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: classic Soft Boys Poster At Wednesday, 21 August 2002, you wrote: >On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Nuppy wrote: >> Has anyone seen this? $49.98 is a bit steep, but it would be a good >> scan for the vaults. >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=900689053 > >Is the 1984 date correct? The Soft Boys were well defunct by that date, >but perhaps this was a reissue. No, this must be wrong. 'specailly cuz the poster says RAW RECORDS on it. It must be from 1977. > >> PS can someone please send me the link that shows Nick Winkworths >> old Soft Boys posters and flyers. I've deleted it mistakenly. > >http://www.njaz.com/nick/ >- click on 'Soft Boys stuff'. Thanks! And thanks to Nick! >PS I see that Eb hears "Give me a _part_ of rock'n'roll", same as I do. >When this was previously raised, the consensus was that this word was >_pod_, which fits better with "only a poisonous plant and it's calling >your name". Eb, did you have a lyric sheet? I remember someone saying that Matthew Seligman said it was 'pod' and not 'part'. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:02:40 -0700 From: guapo stick Subject: soft boys minneapolis tickets for the soft boys at first ave. in minneapolis are now on sale at ticketmaster.com: https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=6003514B85267C1 $12 each plus all the usual fees. you can also reserve tickets for $15 apiece through the red pets collective: http://www.redpets.com/tickets.html woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:11:46 -0500 From: "Jason Koffman" Subject: Re: soft boys minneapolis Or you can avoid all fees by purchasing tickets at 1 of 20+ different local record stores. - -Jason - ----- Original Message ----- From: "guapo stick" To: "the big Ebowski" ; ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 2:02 PM Subject: soft boys minneapolis > tickets for the soft boys at first ave. in minneapolis are now on sale > at ticketmaster.com: > > https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=6003514B852 67C1 > > $12 each plus all the usual fees. > > you can also reserve tickets for $15 apiece through the red pets > collective: > > http://www.redpets.com/tickets.html > > woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:47:19 -0700 From: "Scott McCleary" Subject: RE: Snowballing squids Ross fueled the squid boom by reporting: ""If you warm them up a little, you just snowball them even faster," said Jackson." Perhaps THE most disgusting thing I've thought about today thank you. ;-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:58:54 -0400 From: "Cat Scat Fever" Subject: Re: Snowballing squids Ross spouted: > ""If you warm them up a little, you just snowball them even faster," > said Jackson." This can't *possibly* be the same slang I'm thinking of. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:23:31 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: More Byrds and flying saucers... Glen: >>Gene left the band because of his fear of flying. And one gets the feeling that McGuinn overplayed his jet-plane obsession to hasten Gene's departure... all those plane songs ("8 Miles High", "247 Foxtrot", "Get to You", etc.) and even changing his name to the Roger because it was pilot lingo. I guess there's some controversy over who actually wrote the lyrics to "8 Miles"... McGuinn came up with the title and I think Crosby and Clark both claim to have written most of the rest. I'd guess Clark did most of it because it doesn't suck like "Mind Gardens". (Had the 800 disc randomizer thinger going yesterday and I tripped one of the "hidden" tracks on the Byrds reissues; walked into my living room and was treated to a 15-minute in-studio arguement of the band failing to record "Dolphin's Smile". Highlight: Crosby (I think) to Michael Clarke: "Try... playing... RIGHT!" ____________ "Creeped Out American Girl": Side Three? Please? We don't have a track listing on that yet, do we? _____________ "Childhood's End" almost got filmed a long time ago. I think it would be a hard sell now since that "giant-saucers-over-the-cities-of-earth" image has been done in "V" and "Independence Day". Not to get into the religion thing again, but the thing that stuck with me from the book was the bit where the giant devil-looking aliens give the humans some kind of look-at-history machine which shows the lives of all the great religious figures in history to be nice but not supernatural, and then everyone in the world just kinda goes, huh, I guess that whole religion thing was a crock, so let's forget it and get on with our lives-- I mean, devils from outer space wouldn't lie! ____________ KRRRRIIIIIIIII-SSHHHHHKKK! - -Rex, who really should stop commenting on books he hasn't read since he was 12 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:43:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: More Byrds and flying saucers... On Wed, 21 Aug 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > (Had the 800 disc randomizer thinger going yesterday and I tripped one of > the "hidden" tracks on the Byrds reissues; walked into my living room and > was treated to a 15-minute in-studio arguement of the band failing to record > "Dolphin's Smile". Highlight: Crosby (I think) to Michael Clarke: "Try... > playing... RIGHT!" Oh dear - this is really a painful listen. The whole thing works as a definition of "passive-aggressive": Crosby appears to be reassuring Clarke that he can play the drum part while rather obviously tearing him down. (Clarke, for his part, I suspect *intentionally* pretends not to get what Crosby's telling him.) That's a great record, though! - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::pushing the pencil not the envelope:: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:31:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "drew" Subject: Re: sines (mild spoilers) > From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, drew wrote: > > I wasn't trying to go all Dogme at you - of course you're right; the > film is very stylized. But it's a cinematographer's style, old school - > not, well, what I said above. Agreed, and I do like it a lot. > [mild spoilers] > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > .. > > I assume by "the human part of the story" you mean Gibson's character's > crisis of faith, his reaction to it, and the way the plot leads to his > (apparent) resolution of it? Right. The heavyhanded theme of seeing life as either coincidences or signs was appealing but it didn't lead me inexorably to religion. I didn't believe the crisis of faith, or that a man that strongly converted to atheism would then overlook the dozens of other possible supernatural explanations for the events that restored his faith, or that the ways of his Lord were not still suspiciously mysterious. It just did not ring true for me on any level, and it seemed a long way to go for such a small payoff. > And I suppose if you're predisposed to be hostile toward religious > ideas, you'll not like this one either - since, to me, it pretty clearly > suggests their importance and (loaded word in this context) reality. That's a distinct possibility, but I'm not opposed to intelligent and well-reasoned renderings of religious ideas, even when I don't agree with them. I do not think this one qualified. > Usually, though, I don't really care if my movies are less than perfect, > as long as they're entertaining, and they make me think, w/o grievously > insulting my intelligence. Oh, I'm far from a perfectionist, but I do tend to approach movies based on their apparent aspirations. I don't usually expect more from a movie than it expects from itself. This was far from a torturous viewing experience, but it was also not incredibly thought-provoking (it fails to hold together as a religious tract because it's self-contained, as a science fiction film because it's specious bullshit (Quail hit on several of my objections), and as a philosophical meditation because it doesn't seriously question anything), and it definitely insulted my intelligence. Your mileage obviously varies. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 15:50:25 -0400 From: Brian Subject: What the Hell? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=900876220 ??????? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 15:56:42 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: What the Hell? Brian wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=900876220 ah, those difficult "Elizabethan" years ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:02:45 -0400 From: "Cat Scat Fever" Subject: Re: What the Hell? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stewart Russell" > Brian wrote: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=900876220 > > ah, those difficult "Elizabethan" years ... > > Stewart That can't possibly be... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:12:05 -0700 From: "glen uber" Subject: Re: What the Hell? Cat earnestly scribbled: >That can't possibly be... It's Van Morrison, circa Astral Weeks or Moondance. I get the two dudes mixed up all the time. ;) - -- Cheers! - -g, who, in his younger days, looked like Van Morrison's and Julian Schnabel's bastard son... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:22:18 -0400 From: "Mark Truslow" Subject: Setlist for Rams Head Gig for Robyn Can someone direct me to a setlist for the Robyn solo show at the Rams Head Tavern in Annapolis Maryland a few years ago.....thanks, Mark T. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:30:14 -0400 From: The Great Quail Subject: Re: What the Hell? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=900876220 Sure! That's from Robyn's amazing 70s album, "Can of Tupelo Honeybees." - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 16:26:26 -0700 From: guapo stick Subject: soft boys seattle according to ticketweb.com, tickets for the soft boys show at the crocodile go on sale on thursday, august 29th at midnight. $15. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 17:39:55 EDT From: Randallriebe@aol.com Subject: Re: soft boys seattle Ok, I'm there. Will I see Eddie, Capuchin? I'd rather see Rush, but, it's the Crocodile. Love that place. Vince. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: "Zappa My Soul....." (0% RH) All I can hear in my head is: "Reissue, repackage, repackage, re-evaluate the songs..." http://www.rykodisc.com/RykoInternal/Latest/latest04.html Original FZ Recordings Selected And Sequenced By Your Favorite Spiffy Rock Stars In our continuing effort to bring new and lasting listeners into the expansive Frank Zappa musical landscape, Rykodisc is pleased to announce the unveiling of the first two releases in our Zappa Picks series: Zappa Picks - By Jon Fishman of Phish (RCD 10584), and Zappa Picks - By Larry LaLonde of Primus (RCD 10585). These compilations, made up of tracks hand selected from the Rykodisc catalog of original Zappa recordings, were prepared with the loving care and affection of admitted Zappa fanatics - together they cover a broad range of Frank Zappa's musical career and feature extensive personal liner notes. "?it is safe to say that the work of Frank Zappa, his music primarily, but also his humor, politics, social commentary...all of it...has not just been a fundamental influence on me, but is actually more like part of my metabolism." - - Jon Fishman from Phish "I find this music so wonderful that no matter what I'm listening to, or just finding out about, Frank's music is always on my personal play list, and I never get tired of it. How could you?" - - Larry LaLonde from Primus Thought there may be some interest on the list. Herbie np -> "Here Comes Your man" PIXIES (PURPLE TAPE) ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:32:48 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Almazonia It's a state of mind, I think. 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