From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #259 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 14 2002 Volume 11 : Number 259 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Soft Boys [gSs ] RE: Warped Vinyl ["Chad Patterson" ] Moonshine ["Silver Leaf" ] Radio Free Good Stuff ["Rex.Broome" ] Spoonerism [Michael R Godwin ] complete wastes of time (No RH content) [Mike Mojo ] Re: Spoonerism [Miles Goosens ] belly up ["drew" ] Dictionaries! ["Silver Leaf" ] Byrds and placenames [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Radio Free Good Stuff [steve ] Why Wait? ["Michael Wells" ] A Scanner Wiggly [steve ] Re: Soft Boys [R Edward Poole ] reap [Stewart Russell ] Re: Byrds and placenames [Stewart Russell ] Re: Dictionaries! [Stewart Russell ] Re: Why Wait? [guapo stick ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 08:07:24 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: Soft Boys On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Eb wrote: > it's Allllllliiive. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:35:15 -0400 From: "Chad Patterson" Subject: RE: Warped Vinyl Have you had a go with the glass method? It works pretty well. Admittedly better with 45rpm 7inchers but OK with long players as well. Get yourself a couple of pieces of glass cut to around 13" square. Sandwich the vinyl between them and set all in the sun on a warm day. Timing is crucial and never exact so just keep an eye on things. Let everything cool off before removing the record. Chad Any record collectors out there-- Is there some modern approach to trying to de-warp a warped vinyl lp? I found a new looking "Sucking in the Seventies" -- very thin vinyl, incidentally-- but it has a major warp that still throws even a weighted needle off as far in as the 2nd track (the only one I wanted to hear). Just wondering if there was some folk remedy I'd never heard of ... Ross Taylor ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:22:01 +0000 From: "Silver Leaf" Subject: Moonshine The return of the grevious Eb: >Got a pre-release copy of Nextdoorland today. Damn, hasn't that thar boy larned hemself nuttin. Now weze got a good raison to hate haz soon-ta-be-released gutz. I hairbye declarify huntin seison on that thar en varment Eb. Shotguns laoded folks. An, er, after we dust'm off, we'll all make ourselves copies of this thar CD. Just for our oun personal consumption. Wa'll call tha CDRs we make "AfterEbster Moonshine." Shoud sound reeaaal good. Jeez, Im turning into a 3rd-rate Shell;-) Kay, who for the moment almost regrets not being a critic Carpe rutrum _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:26:29 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Radio Free Good Stuff >>Wait--how about a radio show that just plays great songs -- any period, any >>genre? Sigh. Just too subjective. My final solution to this was to buy two 400-disc carousels and slave them up and randomize them. While it still only holds about 1/3 of my collection, 50 of the 800 discs are self-burned compilations of singles, b-sides, and highlights of so-so albums, so it works out okay. I call it K-REX. (Yours could be K-KAY, how cool is that? Although I guess it would be W-KAY, geographically speaking. But that's somehow reminiscent of that bloody-faced guy who records beer advertisements...) Sadly, I haven't worked out a way to stream it to my car radio yet. I recently read, in the LA New Times, a sort of diatribe against the music programming on a local NPR station. It was basically lamenting the lack of guitar-based indie rock. Which is fine, but the crux of it was that there was no place on LA radio to hear "distorted electric guitars" anymore (this was repeated several times) as if that were the bellwether of good music. There are actually plenty of places on our airwaves where you can hear that particular sound, almost all of which disprove the notion that amps and pedals in and of themselves make for good music. Genre is a bizarre concept. I mean, really. Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 17:47:54 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Spoonerism Just received this nice spoonerism: Uttered by a don in rage to a student: "Sir, you have tasted two whole worms, you have hissed all my mystery lectures, you will leave Oxford on the next town drain". - - MRG ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:07:09 -0400 From: Mike Mojo Subject: complete wastes of time (No RH content) Hey Fegs Found this item on a medieval tribute to Black Sabbath Hic et nunc it is worth a gander http://www.sabbatum.com/ Verres Militares! Awesome! And speaking of the other great musical language- Welsh that is- The Super Furry Animals are touring the US with a "surround sound" set up this Septemeber/October Gee the last time I saw a surround set up worth a damn and not in a living/media room it was during the 1977 Pink Floyd Animals show in MSG. Hey at 15 bucks as average ticket for this tour it seems like a no brainer to check these guys out. Loved MWNG even as a Welsh challenged individual. Their New one "Rings around the world" is not bad either. Here are the dates: "These shows, all performed in surround sound,..." September Wednesday 18 Detroit St Andrews Hall Thursday 19 Toronto Phoenix Concert Club Friday 20 Cleveland Beachland Ballroom Saturday 21 Buffalo Continental Club Sunday 22 Northampton Pearl Street Monday 23 Boston Paradise Tuesday 24 New York Irving Plaza Thursday 26 Washington DC 930 Club Friday 27 Chapel Hill Cat's Cradle Saturday 28 Pittsburgh Club Laga Sunday 29 Cincinatti Southgate House Monday 30 Indianapolis Birdy's October Wednesday 2 Chicago Metro Thursday 3 Minneapolis Quest Friday 4 Lawrence The Bottleneck Saturday 5 Denver Bluebird Mon 7 Los Angeles The Palace Wednesday 9 San Francisco The Fillmore Friday 11 Portland Berbati's Pan http://www.ringsaroundtheworld.co.uk Now back to your regularly scheduled summer doldrums Mike Mike Mojo mmojo@palisade.com "Ich bin ein Holzfdller und f|hl mich stark Ich schlaf des Nachts und hack am Tag..." Monty Python ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:10:06 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: Spoonerism At 05:47 PM 8/13/2002 +0100, Michael R Godwin wrote: >Just received this nice spoonerism: > >Uttered by a don in rage to a student: "Sir, you have tasted two whole >worms, you have hissed all my mystery lectures, you will leave Oxford on >the next town drain". I think it's a Spooner original, or at least I remember it being so in the "People Who Became Words" section of the first PEOPLE'S ALMANAC. the Lord is a shoving leopard, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:19:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "drew" Subject: belly up > From: "ross taylor" > Since Belly has been mentioned, I'm always > amazed at how much I loved their/her 1st album > & disliked the 2nd. Yeah, I think most people felt the same way. The first is the better record, but once the second album revs up it gets into some songs that I really really love..."Red," "Superconnected," "The Bees," "King," and most especially "Now They'll Sleep." So I don't dislike it, I just don't find it as impressive or "interesting." I'm going to see the Soft Boys at Slim's after all. Also I went on a spending frenzy and bought tickets to Gene at Bimbo's next month, Morrissey at the Greek Theater, and... ...Bowie. Tomorrow night. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:26:30 +0000 From: "Silver Leaf" Subject: Dictionaries! While I love the American Heritage Dict I was wondering if there was something larger, an unabridged English Dictionary on the Net. One that can be searched by truncations and asterexes when youre not sure of the spelling. Im actually trying to proof something and finding spell check pretty inadequate. Thanks Kay Carpe rutrum _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:54:37 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Byrds and placenames >Anyone else into Gene Clark's solo work? Pound for pound he had the best >songwriting output of the original Byrds, for my money. And some of the >best tunes of the origingal Byrds lineup for my money. "She Don't Care >About Time"... there's a song for ya. Just don't get Gram Parsons and Gene >Clark confused and start hunting for fellow ex-Byrd Gene Parsons. Not quite >as cool. another one I've been going to try. Alice pointed out recently that most of her favourite Byrds songs were by Clark (she's likely to burst into "the world turns all around her" without warning - "it's on high brain rotate"), and many of mine are too. BTW, thanks both to you and to the others who made GramP suggestions. And for ignoring my atrocious typing on the original question. >James-- >>If it's >onomatopoeic, I don't want to know what happens there. > >Isn't most of the Hawaiian language like that, >pretty strict about always alternating vowels >w/ consonants: kloneeoneeolee [sp?], even >alternating long & short vowells? yes, and Maori (as with all Polynesian languages) is the same. They're basically syllabic languages (like Japanese) with every syllable ending in a vowel and having either a single consonant at the beginning or no consonant at all, but because they didn't have their own script our Roman letters are used. It's easier to work out how to pronounce them that way, too. F'rinstance, Hakataramea is said just like that: Ha Ka Ta Ra Me A. (emphasis on 'me', of course :) Actually, Maori is very closely related to Hawaiian. Mauna Loa in HI becomes Maungaroa in Maori, Honolulu becomes Whangaruru, and of course one of the principal Maori gods is/was Maui. But my original post talked about *assonant* placenames, where the vowel sounds are all - or almost all - the same. So I might hav mentioned Maori place names like Motukaramarama or Kihikihi, but not Ngaruawahia or Mahinerangi (note that in Maori, 'ng' and 'wh' count as one letter. They are pronounced like the the 'ng' in singing and as a soft 'f' sound respectively. The latter pronunciation often embarrasses overseas visitors to places with names starting 'whaka-'). James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:37:53 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Radio Free Good Stuff On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 11:26 AM, Rex.Broome wrote: > Sadly, I haven't worked out a way to stream it to my car radio yet. iPod + car connection kit. - - Steve __________ "Miyazaki's latest animation feature (co-winner with 'Bloody Sunday' of the Berlin Golden Bear) more than justifies his status as Japan's most revered culture hero. What starts out as a fine example of the through-the-looking- glass kids' adventure genre becomes almost Shakespearean in its lyricism, breadth of vision and humanity." - Tony Rayns, Sight & Sound ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 20:57:41 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Why Wait? No confirmation of the SB's Chicago gig on Metro's website yet www.metrochicago.com but I do see that opening for "Sleater Kinney" on October 12 is - wait for it - "The Quails." Alan, you've got to come! And while I'm kind of intrigued about the triple-bill of "Le Tigre," "Panty Raid" and "Erase Erratta" coming up next week, budget concerns may force me to hold out for "Super Fury (sic) Animals" on October 2nd. And don't try tempting me with "Fischerspoon's DJ Unknown" either. Michael "why can't we go back to the old band names?" Wells Ps. thx for that great photo, Eb. That's about the creepiest I've ever seen Robyn look. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:29:05 -0500 From: steve Subject: A Scanner Wiggly > Dark Horizons reported a rumor that director Richard Linklater (Waking > Life) > has been tapped by producer/director Steven Soderbergh and his producing > partner, actor George Clooney, at Section Eight to direct an animated > version of Philip K. Dick's SF novel A Scanner Darkly. Bob Sabiston, > Linklater's director of animation on Waking Life, is also reportedly > attached to the project, which is in development. - - Steve __________ Members of the Christ Community Church in Alamogordo, N.M., burned Harry Potter books, Star Wars items and works by Shakespeare and J.R.R. Tolkien, USA Today reported. Pastor Jack Brock called the Potter books "a masterpiece of satanic deception [that teaches] children how they can get into witchcraft." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:38:18 -0400 From: R Edward Poole Subject: Re: Soft Boys On Tuesday, August 13, 2002, at 09:07 AM, gSs wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2002, Eb wrote: >> > > it's Allllllliiive. heh. special occasions only: 'best of' lists, casual jealousy-provoking asides... oh, and by the way: i'm sure your commentary will be insightful (and tantalizing), but for PETE'S SAKE where are the mp3s? Considered poor form? Well, is there anyone here who WON'T buy the disc if they get mp3's in advance? - -ed 'so NOW i know how the rush crowd felt when they read about people listening to pre-release copies of the new album' poole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:18:53 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: reap Galen & Barbara Rowell (photographers) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:23:44 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Byrds and placenames James Dignan wrote: > > 'wh' ... pronounced ... as a soft 'f' sound Ah, that proves conclusively my theory that Aotearoa was settled by ancient Aberdonians. In Aberdeen, "what" is pronounced "fit". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:34:54 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Dictionaries! Silver Leaf wrote: > > While I love the American Heritage Dict I was wondering if there was > something larger, an unabridged English Dictionary on the Net. Merriam-Webster Unabridged is online at http://www.m-w.com/ -- the subscription is very reasonable. WP spelling checkers have a very small vocabulary (I just saw a groundhog). They are there to catch common typos and, unless they use very clever word-frequency methods, actually get less accurate as the dictionary gets bigger. You can't proof-read from them, beyond catching 'teh' and 'becuase'. What you really need is a good paper-based proof-reader's dictionary, such as The Oxford Dictionary for Writers & Editors (the older one that fits neatly in your hand), or the Collins Dictionary of Spelling & Hyphenation (long out of print). They're still lots faster than any web dictionary, as no-one's cracked the dictionary browseability paradigm -- though I'm working on that ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:43:21 -0700 From: guapo stick Subject: Re: Why Wait? when we last left our heroes, Michael Wells exclaimed: >And while I'm kind of intrigued about the triple-bill of "Le Tigre," "Panty >Raid" and "Erase Erratta" coming up next week, budget concerns may force me to >hold out for "Super Fury (sic) Animals" on October 2nd. And don't try tempting >me with "Fischerspoon's DJ Unknown" either. i caught erase errata on monday night at the knitting factory (the real one, not that fake one on the west coast) along with the frontwoman from the moldy peaches and the ex-models (whose sets were spent at the front bar so i will not comment). erase errata's set was disappointingly short as there was a another show at 11:30pm and they had to clear out the main space. that ended up being a blessing in disguise since erase errata were also disappointing: based on their debut record _other animals_ and a live set i heard on wfmu, i was expecting them to be a lot more energetic and rocking than they were. ah well. at least i got home a hour earlier than i expected. >Michael "why can't we go back to the old band names?" Wells you old fart! +w ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #259 ********************************