From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #248 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, August 1 2002 Volume 11 : Number 248 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities ["Jonathan Fetter" ] Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities [Stewart Russell ] Re: Ride the Snakehead [Christopher Gross ] dirty words and more ["drew" ] Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Eddie Tews Abides [Tom Clark ] Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #247 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Cape Cod? [Jill Brand ] Re: Eddie Tews Abides [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] Ramblings [Mike Swedene ] Chameleons tour ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: Ramblings [Christopher Gross ] return of the sacred crabbiness ["Natalie Jane" Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities > Re: "cock" -- In Patrick O'Brian's novel "HMS Surprise," Jack Aubrey > addresses Stephen Maturin's pet sloth as "old cock." This happens a page > or so before Stephen's famed accusation, "Jack, you have debauched my > sloth." However, this was because Jack got the sloth drunk and was not a > reference to any *sexual* debauchery. > Is it possible to "bauch" a sloth, or a squid for that matter? On the topic of squid, does Great Britain still have a law governing the ownership of items washed up on the shore? I seem to remember that a portion of the value goes to the king or queen, but I could have picked that up from reading O'Brian's books (along with some eccentricities of speech). Jon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:47:05 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > Re: "cock" -- In Patrick O'Brian's novel "HMS Surprise," Jack Aubrey > addresses Stephen Maturin's pet sloth as "old cock." This happens a page > or so before Stephen's famed accusation, "Jack, you have debauched my > sloth." However, this was because Jack got the sloth drunk and was not a > reference to any *sexual* debauchery. At least the sloth didn't eat Jack's hat, which a wombat did in a later episode. And while we're on the topic of wombats, did you see that "pony-sized wombat" story which linked from the "lady manatees flee sex-crazed males" story? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020731/sc_nm/australia_fossils_dc_1 Imagine what a wombat that size could do to your hat!!! - - MRG PS I have never heard 'twat' pronounced any other way but as spelt, rhyming with 'hat' and 'wombat'. I've always found English to be a very consistent langu ... I'll stop there. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:55:34 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Jonathan Fetter wrote: > Is it possible to "bauch" a sloth, or a squid for that matter? > On the topic of squid, does Great Britain still have a law governing > the ownership of items washed up on the shore? I seem to remember > that a portion of the value goes to the king or queen, but I could have > picked that up from reading O'Brian's books (along with some > eccentricities of speech). We're talking flotsam and jetsam here, I think. The littoral truth about the ownership of stuff around the seashore is very confused because the shore is neither land nor sea. Isn't there an A P Herbert 'Misleading Case' on this issue, where they argue that a car is a boat or some such thing? Any lawyers out there? - - MRG again PS debauch is like describe and delineate, not like demystify and decompress. PPS What the hell is the title of that H G Wells story about the man-eating squids terrorising the south coast? I've been trying to remember it for weeks. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:49:45 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: Ride the Snakehead James: >>When used purely anatomically, it rhymes with 'not'. Rhyming it with >>'taught' sounds ridiculous. "Twaaawt". Feh. Ahh, I think we're getting into the realm of accents here. Yanks generally pronounce "not" and "taught" as rhyming words. Please forgive us for we know not what we do. Quailie: >>Both have a shirtless, long-haired Jim >>Morrison/Baudelaire kind of primitive sexiness. A wild raunchiness that >>touches an ancient nerve. Hmmm, the only ancient nerve that Jim Morrison-style sexiness touches me is the one that produces the automatic response "Jesus, shut up, you pretentious drunken juvenile twat!" (Jim, not Quail.) "Vagina" looks good but sounds bad. Remember "The Opposite of Sex?" Lisa Kudrow has some line where she's talking to her gay friened and ask if the word "vagina" does anything for him... he replies, "I don't think that word does anything for anyone". Well, I'm describing it poorly, but it were funny in the movie. Rex "You Should Hear Me Mangling SCTV Sketches" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:05:31 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities Michael R Godwin wrote: > > We're talking flotsam and jetsam here more like royal fish: Royal fish (whales and sturgeons) stranded or caught within territorial waters are Crown property under the statute De Prerogativa Regis 1324, c 13. (http://www.uct.ac.za/depts/pbl/jgibson/iczm/notes/note2.htm) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:33:31 -0700 From: "Rex.Broome" Subject: More scatology and genitalia Steve: >>You can think about how cute and fluffy Stitch is, or what big teeth he >>has. You can also think about how on earth these guys ever talked >>Disney into making this film. Or how Lilo is so much more fully drawn as character (in both senses) than kids are ever allowed to be in film or elswhere. Just a few idiosyncrasies and a great voice performance, and there you go. >>(Actually, I bet they thought they'd never be able to do it again, as they've already >>left to form their own company). But you can bet that Disney's made enough money that they're gonna try to scienctifically engineer more films like it. __________ Edward: >>ahhhhh, but they were crafty bugs. apparently, they could >>control/re-direct the trajectory of asteroids -- thus sending an >>extinction-level event our way. WHICH THEY DID BY FARTING AT THE ASTEROIDS!!! How they could fart in such a ballistically accurate way as to direct the ass-teroids precisely towards a planet light years away... well, I guess that's what the brain bugs were for. Brain bugs that looked oddly like the brains of higher chordates, considering that they were arthropod-looking. Yeah, it's nit-picking, but if I can nitpick movies I like, I get to open up with both barrels on movies I really dislike, right? _______ Matt explains: >>down South, you're much more likelyto hear "alright cocker?". Cocker? I don't even... know... her... oh god, sorry... ______ The Onion: Does ANYONE else have an enormous crush on the blonde woman on the weekly "What Do You Think?" page? Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:31:38 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: Re: semi-washed-up-indie-musiciancore Natalie earnestly scribbled: >Perhaps I shouldn't reveal this to an unready world, but my friend and I did >an interview with the Fastbacks long ago (featuring our beloved Kurt Bloch, >a very funny guy), and they kept going on about these rumors they'd heard >about how Tabitha Soren had fucked someone from Alice in Chains, and >supposedly she liked to have pencils shoved up her butt. ("Sharpened or >unsharpened?" was my perspicacious, unanswered question.) This conversation If they were getting shoved up her ass, they were obviously #2 pencils. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible." - --Frank Zappa glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:11:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Ride the Snakehead On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Rex.Broome wrote: > James: > >>When used purely anatomically, it rhymes with 'not'. Rhyming it with > >>'taught' sounds ridiculous. "Twaaawt". Feh. > > Ahh, I think we're getting into the realm of accents here. Yanks generally > pronounce "not" and "taught" as rhyming words. Please forgive us for we > know not what we do. I have to quibble with this. IMO, most American accents give "taught" a slight but definite w-glide lacking in "not" -- "tawt" versus "naht." Okay, maybe you could say they still rhyme, but they don't have *exactly* the same vowel sound. People with accents that make "not" and "taught" exactly the same seem to be a small minority. (Though come to think of it, they might include the numerous speakers of Lawn-Guylandese, who might be heard to say "I wanted tea, nawt cawfee.") > Hmmm, the only ancient nerve that Jim Morrison-style sexiness touches me is > the one that produces the automatic response "Jesus, shut up, you > pretentious drunken juvenile twat!" (Jim, not Quail.) I agree with you here, except I don't usually use "pretentious" as a criticism. For example, when I call the Quail pretentious, it's usually in tones of admiration. - --Chris "anyone want my copy of _No One Gets Out of Here Alive_?" the Christer ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "drew" Subject: dirty words and more > From: "Natalie Jane" [Lilo and Stitch] > I wouldn't want to spend $8 on a kid's movie. I'd rather see something > I can actually think about a little bit. I don't see why you can't think about a kids' movie. We can keep it a secret if you're embarrassed. No, seriously. There's actually a lot to think about here. You could start by wondering why so many Disney movies (and fairy tales) are about single or absent parents, and ponder the significance of the pretty radically absent parents in this one. You could consider the destructive violence so many of the characters (not just the titular ones) seem to relish, and the fact that the male love interest is by far the gentlest and most giving and nurturing creature in the film. I guess if you're not that into analyzing pop culture (and it does seem pointless to me sometimes) you might feel there's nothing to think about here. But you don't strike me as the sort of person who takes that position. > From: The Great Quail > I also hate > using the word "dick" to refer to the penis in a sexual context, but > otherwise it's cool. For instance, it's ok to say, "I caught my dick in > my fucking zipper" to a buddy, but I would blush with shame if a woman > said something like, "Let me touch your dick." It's far too perfunctory > and casual. And "prick" is way out. That's absolutely right. In a sexual context it must be a "cock," in part because a "cock" is larger than a "dick" by an inch or two at least (though "prick" can be any size). At one point my friends and I tried to work out the complete range of sizes described by the various slang terms. "Pecker" is like "prick," of varying size, but a "dong" is huge and a "schlong" can be even bigger (though not hard). I'll stop now. > From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey > > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, drew wrote: > >> Could someone explain to me what the hell "foxcore" is? > > Thought I had, on this list I get the digest, so I didn't see your explanation until after I'd sent the email. [thirtysomething] > History is important - or perhaps your age (I'm 40). Why, that sounds like an argument from etymology. Maybe history isn't as important as you think. > Newspaper article beginning "John Sprunt, 37, was struck by > a bus yesterday...": who cares how old he is?) Yeah, that's always seemed strange to me too. Re: the Buzzcocks: I always thought a buzzcock was a vibrator. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. > From: Christopher Gross > I always pronounce it to rhyme with "not," regardless of the context. > I've never heard anyone say "twaawt." However, someone with a strong > Boston accent might pronounce "taught" and "not" as "taaat" and "naaat;" > so in that accent, "twat," pronounced "twaaat," would rhyme with both > "taught" and "not." Ungh. (gritting teeth) So "taught" rhymes with "not" in my accent, and I do not have a strong accent (aside from American) of any kind, let alone a Boston one. I don't think many if any Americans rhyme it with "hat." Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:40:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Christopher Gross wrote: > I always pronounce it to rhyme with "not," regardless of the context. So "taught" and "tot" are pronounced the same for you? Not for me... > On Tue, 30 Jul 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > [re: Thirtysomething] > > History is important - or perhaps your age (I'm 40). The phrase > > originated as the title of the show and was not in general usage prior > > to that point. That is, it originated as a commercial catchphrase of > > sorts. > > Are you sure? I am ... not positive ... but *almost* positive that the > phrases "twentysomething" and "thirtysomething" were current before the > first episode Thirtysomething. I seem to remember recognizing the word > when the show first aired (not that I watched it, I just heard it > mentioned). The OED cites an example of "thirty-something" as far back as > 1981, but says that the TV show "popularized" the phrase, so I guess it > could go either way. The key is the lack of hyphen, the running-together of the words. There would be usages of the hyphenated version prior to the show - "it cost me seven dollars and thirty-something cents" (although most would drop the "-thing" or say "thirty-odd") - but the run-together, unhyphenated version certainly only became prominent after the popularity of the show. Also, "thirtysomething" and the like are used *only* to describe age - the normal, hyphenated version of the phrase is used to describe quantity, etc. I also think it was seldom used adjectivally before the show: you might have heard "he wrote the book when he was thirty-something" but you wouldn't have heard "a thirtysomething author." - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Solipsism is its own reward:: __Crow T. Robot__ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 15:30:31 -0400 From: "ross taylor" Subject: coffee, milk, or some of our special TWA tea? Some say the original Procol Harum was killed off by an awful, side-long song on their last album called The Worm And The Tree, which is much discussed on their list, using the predictable acronym. Which somehow reminds me of the Soopy Sales routine, which apparently got him kicked off the air, where he's talking to a parrot who can't read very well and asks "How come every time you see 'F' you see 'K'?" Anyway, when I said 'cunt' sounds like hate speech towards women, it afterwards occurred to me that there's lots of stuff in our culture that sounds like hate speech towards women. "Bitch" is an interesting case. Because it's also a legit word for female dog, it's gotten past the censors, so a really mean slur seems to be the most common taboo tester in "family friendly" media. The only other dehumanizing one I can think of is calling police pigs. 'Gooks' & other ethnic slurs are just names for other kinds of people. 'Shrink' comes close. I guess psychiatrists are pretty scary. - --- Spend $8 on a kids movie-- Right now I'm trying to get my teenager to go w/ me, so I guess I see what you mean about not wanting to go w/ out a child. But I'm pretty picky about what entertainment I go off by myself to see because our schedules (& that includes my scattered, cocooned friends) are so tight. The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea green boat. They took some honey and plenty of money wrapped up in a five pound note. The owl looked up to the stars above and sang to a small guitar 'Oh lovely pussy Oh pussy my love what a beautiful pussy you are you are, you are what a beautiful pussy you are' (now all you hippies, creeps and freaks, dig this next verse--) Pussy said to the owl 'You elegant fowl how charmingly sweet you sing. Oh let us be married, too long have we tarried but what shall we do for a ring?' They sailed away for a year and a day to the land where the bong tree grows and there in the wood a piggy-wig stood with a ring at the end of his nose his nose, his nose with a ring at the end of his nose (All due apologies to Mr. Lear.) - --- Ross Taylor Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:04:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey wrote: > > I always pronounce it to rhyme with "not," regardless of the context. > > So "taught" and "tot" are pronounced the same for you? Not for me... What? No no no! I meant that I pronounce TWAT to rhyme with "not" and "tot." I don't pronounce TAUGHT like "tot" at all. The verb in "tot," "not" and "twat" sounds like the first word in the sentence "Ahh, what delicious calamari." The verb in "taught" sounds like the third word in the sentence "I'm in awe of your calamari-cooking skills." BTW, a rigidly scientific poll of six people in my office showed that five-sixths of Americans from the middle Atlantic region pronounce "taught" and "not" as "tawt" and "naht," respectively, while one-sixth pronounce them as "tawt" and "nawt." > I also think it was seldom used adjectivally before the show: you might > have heard "he wrote the book when he was thirty-something" but you > wouldn't have heard "a thirtysomething author." Okay, I'll buy that. - --Chris, hitting send before my telnet connection dies again ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:15:49 +0000 From: "Silver Leaf" Subject: Weird out Rex: >Ermmm, this thread is starting to get kinda weird, isn't it? (Ranks of angels throatly rumbeling the Hallallulia chorus with ,ah, slightly different words while tossing lit damp rose petals.) I DID It(my jove I think she's done it, she's done it, she's done it ...thats the sub-chorus of cherubs singing. ) After years of enveighing Feg with every crackpot idea I could come up with I have done it. I have outweirded the weird. (The angels are now singing a Garbage-like number, "The Weirdest of the Weird.") Now weirding out most people is, well, a snatch. But to weird out Feg. - --That-- is an achievement.:-) Thank you. Thank you very much. - ------------------- Drew: I agree with you. Dick and prick have "i" sounds and as such are like baby bear's bed. Dong and schlong are grotesque and therefore like papa bear's bed. But cock, well, 9 out of 10 Mama Bears and Goldilocks agree on that one. And all this word play makes me think your friends comment on the word "play" was relevant and interesting. - ------------------ Im amazed at the amount of info Feg can supply on just about any topic, in this case regional meanings of the word cock. I always just assumed the Buzzcocks were going after a Steely Dan type effect. Silly me. - ---------------------- Quail--gnarl is one of the best words in the English language. It gnarls inside you as you say it. - --------------------- and Ross, what a beautiful Feg you are, you are. - --------------------- Kay gSs -- Damn you're good at word play. You know the trick of combining the best of dark and bright for full spectrum transmission. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:31:17 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Eddie Tews Abides "The Big Lebowski" emerging as a cult classic: http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/07.25.02/lebowski1-0230.html - -t "This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!" c ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:51:52 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities - -- Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2002 13:40 Uhr -0500 regarding Re: Thirtysomething and other obscenities: > I also think it was seldom used adjectivally before the show: you might > have heard "he wrote the book when he was thirty-something" but you > wouldn't have heard "a thirtysomething author." Just to prove that I have studied linguistics: Both usages are adjectives! The first one is in predicative mode, the second one is in attributive mode. German is funny in that the adjective changes depending on gender and number when it's used attributively, but not in predicative mode: Das gr|ne Haus vs. Das Haus ist gr|n (There's yet another form for the indefinite article) In Italian and most other languages with "real" morphology the adjective *always* changes: La casa gialla vs. La casa h gialla Obviously the form never changes in English ... you don't know how easy you have it ;-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 23:55:51 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: dirty words and more - -- drew is rumored to have mumbled on Mittwoch, 31. Juli 2002 10:43 Uhr -0700 regarding dirty words and more: > Ungh. (gritting teeth) So "taught" rhymes with "not" > in my accent, and I do not have a strong accent (aside > from American) of any kind, let alone a Boston one. I > don't think many if any Americans rhyme it with "hat." In most variants of English that I'm familiar with these are three different phonemes ... I could write it down in IPA, but that doesn't work with e-mail ;-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156, 50823 Kvln, Germany http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 17:37:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Subject: Re: Eddie Tews Abides It's all because it happened to be my movie of choice last night. That's right. Another trend started by me. On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > "The Big Lebowski" emerging as a cult classic: > > http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/07.25.02/lebowski1-0230.html > > > -t "This is what happens when you fuck a stranger in the ass!" c > Dolph "Gutterballs" Chaney ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:56:42 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #247 >I think the best poetic metaphor for the vagina is from Pablo Neruda -- >"your rose of dampened fire." Oh, my. at which point I have to mention that Frida Kahlo's diaries referred to her husband Diego Rivera's "Fuente-flor" (Fountain flower). >>> - Steve, who thinks YBTPR stomps the crap out of the highly overrated >>> YHF. Yankee Hat Factory. Young Heathen Farmers. Yellow Hopping Frogs. You Hate France. this is fun! >> Now, to be addressed as cock is something different again... it's older >> and used only in some places, so for instance oop North where ye >> Buzzcocks come from, one can be addressed as cock and it's an informal >> term for mate, man, dude, whatever... down South, you're much more likely >> to hear "alright cocker?". > >I was under the impression that it was short for 'cock sparrow' or >possibly 'Cockney sparrow', and was exclusively a London usage. well, it certainly was used in London. I think it's now very dated but certainly it was a London term way back (I'm sure if you were in the East End in the 1950s you would have heard it a lot). James (aged thirty-snnhh) James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 20:22:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Cape Cod? I've given up my valiant attempt to catch up with my feg digests, but I noticed something about Robyn on Cape Cod. Is this true? Where can I find whatever is listed of his upcoming appearances? Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:24:27 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Eddie Tews Abides On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > "The Big Lebowski" emerging as a cult classic: > > http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/07.25.02/lebowski1-0230.html "emerging"? Methought it already was a classic... And Sebastian: of course you are correct. I should have been more specific... But isn't that always the case... - --Jeff Jeffrey Norman, Posemodernist University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of Mumblish & Competitive Obliterature http://www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 00:46:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Ramblings After many hours of having CNN and HEADLINE news on... I noticed that they have a commercial with Larry King and a few other anchors from their programming. I noticed the music in the background sounds a LOT like U2's "In God's Country" off of Joshua Tree. I have nt listened to the album in a while, but oh well. Paul Westerberg is tongiht. Kicking off his solo tour in Buffalo. Anyone going? Herbie np -> Moss Elixir Demos ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 07:49:28 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Chameleons tour From the Chameleons web site: An agent based in New York City is now involved who knows many of the bookers and venues from experience and together we've sketched out an itinerary which looks something like this: Sept 28th - Atlanta Echo Lounge Sept 30th - Carrboro Cat's Cradle Oct 1st - Washington DC Black Cat Oct 2nd - Philadelphia venue tba Oct 3rd - NYC Mercury Lounge (semi-acoustic set) Oct 4th - NYC The Bowery (full back line) Oct 5th - Hoboken New Jersey Maxwell's Oct 6th - Boston - Middle East Cafe Oct 7 - Montreal venue tba Oct 8 - Toronto venue tba Oct 9 - Ottawa Zaphod Beeblebrox Oct - 10th Detroit St Andrews Oct - 11th Chicago Metro Oct - 13th Seattle venue tba Oct - 17th LA The Knitting Factory Oct - 18th SF The Great American Music Hall _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 11:15:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Ramblings On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Mike Swedene wrote: > After many hours of having CNN and HEADLINE news on... > I noticed that they have a commercial with Larry King > and a few other anchors from their programming. I > noticed the music in the background sounds a LOT like > U2's "In God's Country" off of Joshua Tree. I have nt > listened to the album in a while, but oh well. That reminds me -- I was watching "Angel" (NOT "Touched by an Angel") on Sunday, and during a commercial break I switched to CNN Headline News ... where they had the Violent Femmes in the studio, performing "Add It Up"! The anchor even picked up one of the drummer's brushes and helped him out. Definitely not what I expected to see! - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 09:04:13 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: return of the sacred crabbiness >There just ain't a universally pleasing term for the girl parts, is there? On my last day in Ann Arbor, Viv and I were trying to figure out how to pronounce "Quasi." A as in "tall" or A as in "pat"? Somehow or other, we ended up coining a new word, "quassy" (A as in "pat"). We decided it would be a great term for "girl parts," and I use it freely. It has connotations of "quim" and "pussy." Very catchy. >I think the best poetic metaphor for the vagina is from Pablo Neruda -- >"your rose of dampened fire." Oh, my. Oooh, nice. I also like a 19th-century term, "vallis lucis," which means "valley of light." This actually caught on with some friends of mine. >And by the way, I love the word "vagina." It sounds great, and it >even >looks descriptive.... I think that V words are so damn sexy.... "Vagina" means "sheath," which is a bit reductive in my mind. It also only refers to one part of female genitalia, not the whole thing. Anne Frye, the author of "Holistic Midwifery," refuses to use "vagina" because she claims that the term came about because Romans would cut vaginas out of conquered females and put them around their swords! I'm pretty sure this is anatomically impossible and Frye should know better. She prefers "yoni" - but is that O like "yawn" or like "go"? (kids movies...) >You can think about how cute and fluffy Stitch is, or what big teeth >he >has. *shrug* >I mean, how much can you think about a film that has guys with rocket >packs? OK, maybe "Minority Report" was a bad counter-example. But still, I ain't gonna pay $8 for something that's aimed at 9-year-olds, and I shouldn't have paid $8 for "Minority Report," which was aimed at 15-year-olds. >The Hobbit and LOTR are kid's books, right? LOTR is a kid's book? Yipes. Philip Pullman's books are ostensibly for kids. But not 9-year-olds. And there's nothing cute or fluffy in them. Don't worry, Steve, I'm sure I will get my fill of kiddy films if I ever visit my friends and their two children in Vermont. I've already memorized "Toy Story" and "Wallace and Gromit" because of them. (re. "foxcore") >I think I then >coined the term "bullcore" to describe the music of all-male bands. I prefer "studcore" as an equivalent, as "foxcore" refers specifically to the band members' physical appearance. Speaking of "foxcore," I've noticed that music critics are already readying their rudimentary penii for the bi-yearly Sleater-Kinney circle-jerk. "They're, like, chicks... but they ROCK!" The cover article in the scintillating Willamette Week proclaims the caterwauling threesome to be "the greatest Portland band ever!" *groan* At least they left the "Portland" part in. (re. "Arena") >Sigh, I remember the story so well, and I was so disappointed with >the >Star Trek adaptation that I've tried to block it from my memory >so about >all I remember of Star Trek is that stupid rubber suited >monster. I remember the story as well, and like most "Golden Age" SF, I thought it was simple-minded, revolving around one little clever gimmick. Anyway, the reason I brought it up was because of the mindlessly EEEEVIILLL alien, a theme which I dislike intensely. cranky n. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #248 ********************************