From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #237 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, July 25 2002 Volume 11 : Number 237 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Nextdoorland album cover [Brian ] sci-fi (some MR spoilers) ["drew" ] this post has been sponsored by... ["Natalie Jane" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #236 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Novelty [Tom Clark ] reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Toronto Review [Mike Swedene ] Quail's thread unfairly hijacked... ["matt sewell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #236 [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Toronto Review [Stewart Russell ] Re: Quail's thread unfairly hijacked... [Stewart Russell ] Re: What are fegs watching? [Tom Clark ] Re: What are fegs watching? [Stewart Russell ] Re: What are fegs watching? [Ken Weingold ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:30:08 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Nextdoorland album cover http://www.matadorrecords.com/the_soft_boys/ What's going on here anyway? Is there someone on the bed? Can't tell. Nuppy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 13:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "drew" Subject: sci-fi (some MR spoilers) I was pretty disappointed with The Left Hand of Darkness when I read it for my Alien Sex class in college. It makes sense to me, I guess, but I had been hoping for a more colorful, additive androgyny. These days that interests me less. > From: "Michael Wells" > > So what's everybody reading? I'll go first... I've been catching up on old issues of Hellblazer, actually, and working through various seminal books on improv in hopes of gaining enough insight to _finally_ be able to play rather than warm the bench and serve concessions. But I'm planning to try a couple of Samuel Delanys soon, namely Nova, Triton, and/or Dhalgren. > Currently in the middle of one of Pratchett's Discworld reissues, > "Reaper Man." Either Douglas Adams' "The Salmon of Doubt" or Neil > Gaiman's "American Gods" will be next, they're both on the shelf > waiting. Salmon was about what you would expect, really...it's like a b-sides album. The novel fragment is not very good at all, but the collected essays and things are pleasant reading. The Gaiman book is the best novel he's done, IMO...still less substantial than it promises to be, but less random than Neverwhere and less saccharine than Stardust. He still seems to be ripping himself off, though, when he's not angling to become Stephen King. I hate to sound like a closed-minded fanboy, but it's all been downhill after Sandman. Read Salmon while you're still in that mood and then plunge into American Gods; they're both fast reads. > From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey [product placement in Minority Report] > Well, sorta...but one thing that always bugged me about older TV shows > and movies is that when products intruded, they used to be these fake-o > generic products, and that detracted from the pseudo-reality of the > experience. Agreed. I was pretty much fine with the product placement, to be honest; it's my least unfavorite form of advertising because although it's insidious it's not intrusive or dishonest or hyperbolic. > From: The Great Quail > > I have a feeling that I liked MR better than most Fegs on the List, I knew you would, but I'm a little surprised that it's you and not Kay I'm agreeing with this time. :) > Oh, and: Personally, I like the GAP. Their clothing is fairly cheap, > plain-looking, and utilitarian. In fact, I shop at the GAP a lot for > casual work-wear -- it looks simple and unpretentious, which I like. And > there's a GAP store right next to me, so for under $20 I can buy a plain > black shirt. This is why I shop at Target; the clothing is not quite as dull as the GAP's and doesn't carry the same mainstream/ yuppie connotations. Margaret is appalled that her current favorite scent is made by GAP, however. > 2. I did not like the "happy" ending, and I wanted it to be darker. I > also think that Seqor Spielbergo went overboard by showing his wife > pregnant. To me that was kind of grotesque. "Hey, look, we managed to forget our old son! Yippee!" Not that I think it was healthier the other way, but it just felt jarring. > 3. I think the grace notes in MR were amazing: the weird cast of > characters, the sexual tension between Cruise and the old woman, the > cohesive vision of a future, the scene where Cruise kicks the shit out > of the guy while the precog screams her head off.... Some great stuff > here, much better than most movies I've seen out in a while. The grace notes -- yes. Excellent term for it, and I loved all these parts as well. > 5. I think that Terry Gilliam or Jenuet would be unwise choices to > direct PKD. Both are too idiosyncratic and in love with whimsical > touches, and unless they planned to do Ubik or Clans of the Alphane > Moon, I would rather they avoided Dick's world of insecurity and > paranoia, which I feel they would contaminate with their own. I am not > sure who I'd like to direct a PKD story -- it would depend on the > adaptation chosen, I suppose. Thinking of Being John Malkovich, what about Spike Jonze? And, for that matter, despite what I said about weirdoes being poor choices for Dick protagonists, what about Malkovich himself as a star? I could see him in _Time Out of Joint_ if they hadn't already made _The Truman Show_. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 14:06:56 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: this post has been sponsored by... >Japanese actor, star of such films as 'Unagi' and 'Shall We Dance.' According to IMDB (which I should have looked at in the first place) he was also the narrator guy in "Tampopo." >Well, sorta...but one thing that always bugged me about older TV >shows and >movies is that when products intruded, they used to be >these fake-o >generic products, and that detracted from the >pseudo-reality of the >experience. I can see that, but honestly, I am surrounded by advertising every day, and when I go to see a movie, I don't want to see any more damn ads. Spielberg may have had an "artistic" purpose in using Lexus (and I use the word "artistic" loosely when it comes to Spielberg), but he's also advertising and promoting Lexus, and I don't want to see it. It would have been perfectly possible to make up plausible, realistic fake products. It would make the future seem far more like THE FUTURE than simply a slight variant on the present. The use of real products makes the future seem cosy and familiar - oh yes, the Gap, I've been there - when it should seem alien and strange. >And what are the "rules" of the Cobra game? I vaguely recall reading >about >it...but only vaguely. I haven't the foggiest, but I believe they are extremely complex. The Portland musicians all had cheat sheets. Zorn's first Naked City album was a favorite amongst me and my high school friends. I guess we liked to hear Yamatsuka Eye scream. >given the response that certain movie trilogies have got lately, I >reckon >a film version of the earthsea books is long overdue. Yes. And now I will lie awake at night, wondering who should play Ged. >Oh, and: Personally, I like the GAP. My shameful confession - I like the Gap too. But I buy their clothes at thrift stores, so I don't give them any more money. I recommend you do the same, Quail - it's much better to get a shirt for $10 than for $20. :) But even though I do, guiltily, like their clothes, I still don't want to see ads for them in the movies I watch. >2. I did not like the "happy" ending, and I wanted it to be darker. I >also >think that Seqor Spielbergo went overboard by showing his wife pregnant. Oh man, I almost puked when I saw that. And what about the poor precogs who are probably scarred for life? Incidentally, I was wondering how the precogs could even use language - hadn't they been in that tank since early childhood? In the story, the precogs were hopelessly retarded and basically vegetables; showing the precogs as real people in the movie was actually an improvement on the story. But still... >4. Jeff's idea of an updated remake of "Man in the High Castle" rocks!!!!! I think that was Jason's. Or maybe it was mine. It's all a blur. >6. SF movies that make you think? I think "Dune" should count, >despite >it's flaws. "A Clockwork Orange," of course.... Yes, definitely. (Incidentally, I still love you, Quail.) My reading - I just finished "The Scar" by China Mieville, the sequel to "Perdido Street Station." It rocked. Though the main character was extremely unsympathetic, very cold and kind of whiny. It didn't detract from the story, though. The plethora of sea creatures in the novel, including a race of half-human, half-lobster beings and an amphibious guy with tentacles grafted to his chest, makes it a top feggy choice. n. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 16:41:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: severely injured horse, still being abused On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > perfectly possible to make up plausible, realistic fake products. It would > make the future seem far more like THE FUTURE than simply a slight variant > on the present. The use of real products makes the future seem cosy and > familiar - oh yes, the Gap, I've been there - when it should seem alien and > strange. That's assuming that "THE FUTURE" was what was intended - maybe it wasn't supposed to be so alien and strange. At least in my reading of the film, it really wasn't supposed to be all that different from our world. As to the question of whether The Gap, McDonald's, Lexus will still be around fifty years from now...on the one hand, it seems as if they would be, being quite ubiquitous now. But on the other, how many of them were around fifty years ago? As far as I know, only McDonald's was around in 1952, if that (maybe a few years later). And the other question is, even if those companies are still around, would their logos be the same? Doubtful, doubtful. It's interesting to me that I'm the one defending the product placement...since I really hate the extent to which ads have infiltrated our environment. I despite going to a movie and having to see ads for toys, Mountain Dew (that ridiculously anti-social one w/the two morons and their TransAm), and worse, the army*. I feel like if I paid for the damned movie, if I'm going to be forced to sit through more ads, I should get price off, or free popcorn, or something. It appalls me the extent that ads, formerly something the advertiser had to pay for, are now largely subsidized by a moronic public running around in clothing (say) that blazons its brandname in gigantic letters. Not only do you pay too much for your fucking Tommy Hilfiger shirt, you then do free pimping for him too? A local poet fought back...sort of...by taking a plain white t-shirt and scrawling "TOMMY HILFIGER" in black magic marker across the front...) (full disclosure: arguably promotional t-shirts in my house: for bands I like, for radio stations I like, and...I think that's it.) * Like this current one, where the soldier boy is climbing up some snowy mountain and blabbling about his "army of one"-ness and trying to be the voice of the military backing out of the obviously psychopathic intimations of that slogan by emphasizing teamwork...but I'm wondering, what, is the US thinking it's going to come under attack by Yeti or something, that climbing frozen mountains is some plausible military operation? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::pushing the pencil not the envelope:: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:47:01 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: this post has been sponsored by... At 02:06 PM 7/24/2002 -0700, Natalie Jane wrote: >Yes. And now I will lie awake at night, wondering who should play Ged. Why even worry about it, when you know it's going to be Tom Cruise or Tom Hanks? >My shameful confession - I like the Gap too. But I buy their clothes at >thrift stores, so I don't give them any more money. I recommend you do >the same, Quail - it's much better to get a shirt for $10 than for $20. :) I only buy things on sale at the Gap, when they mark their shirts down to like $5.99. I also have a collection of Gap backpacks/duffle-bags/messenger-bags, all of which I've purchased for less than $10 each. I just bought two in the last month or so, because they were like $6.99 a pop. Maybe I should sell 'em all to a thrift store and make some dough. >>4. Jeff's idea of an updated remake of "Man in the High Castle" rocks!!!!! > >I think that was Jason's. Damn fucking straight it was my idea!!!! - --Jason "J.U.M.P.I.N.G., jumping in Gomorah, I'm religion free!" --XTC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:41:22 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: the minority report of heaven >From: "drew" > >The art direction and cinematography alone were worth the price of >admission. Heck, it's those two things which got me in the theater to see Spielberg's last two films in the first place. As far as I'm concerned, a little bit of decent storytelling is icing on the cake (as far as contemporary blockbuster films are concerned. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 19:50:35 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: gall, stones, sound >Ross Taylor >only one more month to worry about how the >remastered Rolling Stones albums will sound Here's a good and very long thread about that very subject: My overall impression is that it's gonna be done well and the 26 reissues are gonna sound great. For example, "All electronically reprocessed stereo recordings have been expunged from the catalog and have now been replaced with mono mixes while, when available and appropriate, true stereo mixes replace the mono counterparts on the following recordings..." That's a Good Thing, if you ask me. But the suggested retail of $19 is a bummer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:24:48 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #236 >> Leo McKern, 82 >> >> Be Seeing You, Former Number 2 ... > >Cripes, I forgot about him in The Prisoner...he'll always be Old Grumpole of >the Bailey to me. ...that and the High Priest in "Help!" Reading? "The word museum" (Jeffrey Kacirk), and "The world of Whistler" (Time-Life library of art) >Frakes To Helm Thunderbirds a strangled cry of "Noooo!" erupted from these distant shores of Fegmania. Just because he acts like a wooden puppet doesn't mean he can direct Thunderbirds! James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 18:39:59 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Novelty on 7/19/02 9:30 PM, FS Thomas at ferris@ochremedia.com wrote: > The list's been slow so I submit the following for your > perusal: > > http://www.jaguaro.org/feature/03-09-02_wesk.shtml > > A source of endless flames, no doubt. Looks like I've got 28 CD's to ditch. Oh well, good thing I ripped them all already... 1. The Clash - Combat Rock 3. Nirvana - Nevermind 4. Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band - Trout Mask Replica 5. The Beatles - Let It Be 6. The Replacements - Tim 12. Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti 17. Pearl Jam - Vs. 19. Beck - Midnite Vultures 21. Derek and the Dominoes - Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs 22. The Who - Tommy 24. Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine 25. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique 30. White Stripes - White Blood Cells 34. Dave Brubeck - Time Out 35. Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty 38. Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention - We're Only In It For The 41. Pulp Fiction - Original Soundtrack 44. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking 57. Love and Rockets - Earth, Sun, Moon 64. Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon 73. The Cult - Electric 77. Dinosaur Jr. - You're Living All Over Me 83. Grateful Dead - ALL RECORDINGS (Well, three) 85. Husker Du - Zen Arcade 86. Bob Marley & the Wailers - Legend 92. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes 96. Beastie Boys - Check Your Head/Ill Communication 97. The Doors - The Best of the Doors ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 23:35:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: reap http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/24/Pasco/Pro_ballplayer_Millie.shtml Rockford Peaches legend Millie Deegan, 82 Cool picture of her with Babe Ruth with the story ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 01:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Toronto Review Well.. there were about 200+ people in the place, not all of them were there to see Robyn. There were a bunch of rowdy drunkards near the bar, but Robyn ignored them. He had an eclectic shrit with a polynesian flair to it. He did the following: 1) This could be the day 2) Queen Elvis 3) I've Got The Hots For You (referenced as the "Phantom Song on the Soft Boys Album") 4) A Man's got to know... (funny ass intro, explaining the movie and all) 5) It's Not Dark Yet (Dylan) 6) Unprotected Love (New SB album) 7) 1974 8) I Don't Ask For Much (Dylan) not sure of the name.... 9) Cynthia Mask 10) The Speed of things 11) Trilobyte (nice intro) 12) Dechirico Street 13) I Feel Beautiful 14) Satelite 15) Creeped out american girl (Behind your eyes) (?) assume it is a new SB song.... 16) Arms of Love (at the drunken request of rabble rousers at the bar) 17) Visions of Johanna (Dylan) dedicated to Michi He was in a good mood and joked a LOT about the pope and the Rolling Stones both being in Toronto at the same time. I thought he would have played "If you were a priest" but perhaps he will next time. the announcer stated Robyn and the SB will be in NYC for 3 nights, so tour dates must be floating around out there somewhere. There were 2 people there with video cameras and I exchanged emails, so we should get it (I hope) they also had a DAT off the soundboard. When I get more info I will keep you all informed. I am sorry I missed everyone. Time to go to sleep. Herbie ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:48:25 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Quail's thread unfairly hijacked... I would like GAP a whole lot better if their clothes weren't made by sweatshop slaves. Oh, and if they weren't so ubiquitous. Over here we used to have different towns with different shops. Now each place over a certain size has a Gap and two Starbucks... sheesh I do agree with you though, that it's naive to believe they won't be around in a few decades (perhaps that depends on their accountants! I expect everyone thought Enron & Worldcom to be around for decades... what next? Time Warner/Aol?!) I've hijacked this perfectly innocent Minority Report thread and twisted it into one of those rants so unpopular with some of you on the list... I'm sorry! I just couldn't help it! *ducks to avoid flames* Cheers Matt >From: The Great Quail >Oh, and: Personally, I like the GAP. Their clothing is fairly cheap, >plain-looking, and utilitarian. In fact, I shop at the GAP a lot for casual >work-wear -- it looks simple and unpretentious, which I like. And there's a >GAP store right next to me, so for under $20 I can buy a plain black shirt. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:59:19 +0000 From: "Brian Hoare" Subject: Re: Books >Michael Wells >So what's everybody reading? I'll go first... I'm between books at the moment. The lat thing thing I read was Lemony Snicket's Hostile Hospital, number 8 in the Series of Unfortunate Events. Unfortunately the UK releases are well behind the US so we resorted to using amazon.com to catch up. There are now 3 members of our household worried for the future of the Baudelaire orphans and the Quagmire triplets ( Isadora and Duncan) and debating the meaning of VFD. A fun set of kiddies books that starts as a sequence of formulaic adventures but just as the formula gets too repetitive (around 5/6) the mystery gets a lot deeper. I must get round to finding that book on pranksters that Natalie recommended a while back. Any recommendations on a guide/history of 20th Century music, the arty/orchestral/"classical" scene rather than the jazz/RnB/rock/pop story. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 12:15:19 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #236 On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, James Dignan wrote: > >> Leo McKern, 82 > >> > >> Be Seeing You, Former Number 2 ... > > > >Cripes, I forgot about him in The Prisoner...he'll always be Old Grumpole of > >the Bailey to me. > > ...that and the High Priest in "Help!" And don't forget the hard-bitten Daily Express reporter in 'The day the earth caught fire' (the one where they had the real editor of the Daily Express, Arthur Christiansen, playing himself). My own personal memory of Leo McKern is when we were struggling out of Bath station with a huge pile of luggage after a holiday, and he helped us carry our bags to a taxi. This is the only occasion when I've been loaded down with suitcases and a famous actor has offered to help. What a nice man! - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 08:52:02 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Toronto Review Mike Swedene wrote: > > There were a bunch of rowdy drunkards near the bar they weren't *that* rowdy; guess you've never been to a UK gig, then... > 10) The Speed of things > 11) Trilobyte (nice intro) I think this is the first time I've heard him play these live. Fabby. They're two of my three favourite Robyn songs; the third is below. > 16) Arms of Love (at the drunken request of rabble > rousers at the bar) but beautifully played. In a parallel universe, that song got used instead of Celine Dion's in "Titanic". > He was in a good mood and on good form. It was all acoustic; I kept expecting the change to the blue electric, but it never happened. > I am sorry I missed everyone. yeah, me too. We were sat near the front the long bar that's at the edge of the seated area. Whatever it was I drank it was good and strong (moan). But I'm happy to have introduced someone to Robyn; Don came away loving it, and positively mirthed-out at the Briggs & Trilobite intros. > Time to go to sleep. me too. I'm glad I can code Perl in my sleep. Stewart Only in Toronto for WYD: a bunch of earnest teens singing on the subway, to the tune of We Will Rock You: "We love, we love John-Paul II ...". I couldn't make this up. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:03:56 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Quail's thread unfairly hijacked... matt sewell wrote: > > I would like GAP a whole lot better if their clothes weren't made by > sweatshop slaves. Oh, and if they weren't so ubiquitous. Never been in a Gap store. Want to keep it that way. Cheap clothes you can get from a farm store, tho' some of them are "assembled in Mexico". Good cheap clothes you can get from MEC (http://www.mec.ca/): they're a co-op, they have posted ethical requirements for all suppliers, and they're very, very cheap. But most of their good stuff they won't ship out of Canada. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 09:32:20 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: Toronto Review Yes, it was a pretty good show... There was a very .... er, positive vibe about the whole thing. Damn, he writes good songs. > There were a > bunch of rowdy drunkards near the bar, but Robyn > ignored them. Yeah, you know, I didn't even notice them. Maybe it depends where you were sitting. > there somewhere. There were 2 people there with video > cameras Oh yes, there were sitting/standing right in front of me. One of them only filmed about 10 minutes of the show. But the other guy got the whole thing, I think. Which makes me think, Stewart, that we were practically sitting side-by-side at the front section of the seated bar area? I kept my eye out for you Randi, but I didn't see you anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 15:27:41 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: What are fegs watching? Kay, who just got cable, asks: > Any suggestions for what I might enjoy on all these new channels? I'll go first: Breaking News, Bravo Travel Sick, Comedy Central Insomniac, Comedy Central The Daily Show, Comedy Central South Park, Comedy Central Junkyard Wars, The Learning Channel Rebecca's Vegetarian Table, PBS You Later with Jools Holland, BBC America Father Ted, BBC America Brooklyn Cyclones Baseball, MSG Network Then, of course, there are all those shows on HBO. The best of which is Six Feet Under. Kay, the next step is TiVO. You'll never know how you survived without it! - -tc, I don't read. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:23:03 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: What are fegs watching? Kay wrote: > >Any suggestions for what I might enjoy on all these new channels? hope you have a better selection than Rogers, which is so appalling that we haven't bothered to get a TV. 75 channels of poo. The *only* thing I could bring myself to watch was an occasional two-minute filler on Teletoons called "Jean-Luc & Dondoozat". The format is incredibly simple, yet gets me every time: repeat Dondoozat does something annoying (like farting under the covers, mooning at passing cars) until Jean-Luc comes in and slaps Dondoozat about for it. The show ends with a hand-written note from Jean-Luc explaining why it's a bad idea to do what Dondoozat just did. (I might have who is Jean-Luc and who is Dondoozat reversed, but it doesn't really matter; there's nothing much to detract from the show.) It's French, you might be surprised to know. It makes South Park look like arthouse. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:23:23 -0500 (CDT) From: gSs Subject: Re: In defense of tan jumpsuits On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, The Great Quail wrote: > Oh, and: Personally, I like the GAP. Their clothing is fairly cheap, > plain-looking, and utilitarian. In fact, I shop at the GAP a lot for casual > work-wear -- it looks simple and unpretentious, which I like. And there's a > GAP store right next to me, so for under $20 I can buy a plain black shirt. it's the bland, proletariate spoonmaker's co-op look that bugs me. gap shoppers rarely if ever belong to a spoonworker's factory co-op. we aren't the same, so why should we try to look the same? the name GAP is itself a contradiction. it should be called CONTINUITY. do they sell burquas? we should start a male burqua wearing, while driving, movement. it would be harder to see the women so we would be less distracted and could concentrate more on the tv. i think any man who makes his wife wear a burqua should be hung in the street and left there as an example. plus it makes great food for the cats. anyone got an earthid, yet? gSs np sin city - beck and emmylou harris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:26:07 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: What are fegs watching? On Wed, Jul 24, 2002, Tom Clark wrote: > Kay, who just got cable, asks: > > Any suggestions for what I might enjoy on all these new channels? > > I'll go first: > > Breaking News, Bravo > Travel Sick, Comedy Central > Insomniac, Comedy Central > The Daily Show, Comedy Central > South Park, Comedy Central > Junkyard Wars, The Learning Channel > Rebecca's Vegetarian Table, PBS You > Later with Jools Holland, BBC America > Father Ted, BBC America > Brooklyn Cyclones Baseball, MSG Network VH1 Classic is a lot of fun. Kind of early '80s MTV. I also like the Speed Channel a lot, but it's not as good as when it was Speedvision. Too much fucking Nascar. If I want to see a bunch of rednecks driving around in a circle, I will turn on TNN or any of the other 10,000 channels showing it. - -Ken ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #237 ********************************