From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #235 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 11 : Number 235 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) [Stewart Russell ] Re: double reap [R Edward Poole ] Re: double reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: double reap [R Edward Poole ] Re: double reap [steve ] Re: flamers [drew ] Re: double reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) [Aaron Mandel ] Re: Giant squid washes up on Australian beach [Stewart Russell ] Horselover Fat goes to the Gap ["Natalie Jane" ] Channeling ["No Name" ] Lathe of Heaven ["Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" ] RE: Quiz (fwd) [Michael R Godwin ] Re: Quiz (fwd) [Ken Weingold ] Re: Lathe of Heaven ["Jonathan Fetter" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:14:27 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) Kenneth Johnson wrote: > > Terry Gilliam!!!! Caro & Jeunet ... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:30:36 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) Stewart Russell wrote: > Kenneth Johnson wrote: > >> Terry Gilliam!!!! > > Caro & Jeunet ... and just to double-underline that message of mine, a lightning strike just took out the transformer down the street, and downed our servers and halted the presses. I'm amazed it got out! (we haven't hooked up our UPS. We probably should.) Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 18:24:31 EDT From: MPys2626@aol.com Subject: Giant squid washes up on Australian beach One guess as to wot I was thinking about when I read this -- Giant squid washes up on Australian beach SYDNEY, July 22 (Reuters) - A giant squid with tentacles measuring at least 15 metres (yards) has washed up on a southern Australian beach, exciting scientists who believe they may have stumbled across a new species. The monster cephalopod washed up on Seven Mile Beach in the southern island state of Tasmania some time at the weekend. The squid, which weighs about 250 kg (550 pounds), was hauled by trailer to the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery on Monday. "It's definitely of the giant squid group, which is exciting enough," David Pemberton, the museum's senior zoology curator, told Australian Broadcasting Corp radio. "But it does have some features about it which we're unsure about and we've called some specialists...to help decide, but it looks like it could be different," he said. Pemberton said the most intriguing features were long, thin flaps of muscle attached to each of the eight tentacles, which measured between 15 metres and 18 metres. Giant squid also have two smaller feeding tentacles. Only two other of the rare giant squid have been found in Tasmania, in 1986 and 1991. They usually live on the edge of the continental shelf off Australia's coast at depths of at least 500 metres. Giant squid are found in all the oceans of the world and are believed to be the origin of many ancient maritime legends about mysterious creatures from the deep. They have also featured in great works of fiction like Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" and Jules Verne's "20,000 Leagues Under The Sea." But Pemberton said there was no chance of the Tasmanian discovery ending up as a massive serve of calamari because its high ammonia content meant it would most likely taste like floor cleaner. 07/22/02 06:37 ET Mark Nextdoorland ... are we there yet!? http://www.mitchworldusa.net/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 16:48:36 -0700 (PDT) From: bayard Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) One of the most glaring things to me was, at Cruise's character's moment of truth, WHERE ARE THE COPS? Everyone in the world knows what is going to happen - it's even in the newspaper. Why don't they do their damn job and try to stop the preordained killing? I guess it's true, there's never one around when you need one... - -- http://glasshotel.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 11:53:57 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: double reap Gus Dudgeon, 59 Marion Montgomery, 67 James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:03:08 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: congratulations Reg, it's a squid! anyone reported this yet? James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:16:39 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 10:23 AM, Natalie Jane wrote: > Besides "Blade Runner" (which was only nominally Dick-related), there > hasn't yet been any films that do Dick justice. Screamers isn't too bad. And don't you think the first thing the cops would do would be to lock the Cruise character (and his eyes) out of the police station? Sitting down to watch Spirited Away, for which those big stupidheads at Disney should have attached a trailer to Lilo & Stitch. - - Steve __________ Maybe in the Scalia household they make you pee into a cup just for being alive. - Dahlia Lithwick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 20:45:45 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: Giant squid washes up on Australian beach Mark: > Only two other of the rare giant squid have been found in Tasmania, in > 1986 and 1991. They usually live on the edge of the continental shelf > off Australia's coast at depths of at least 500 metres. Those edge-of-shelf areas can be trippy. My mom's family were commercial fishermen on the N. Alaskan panhandle, and I worked a couple of summers with them back before the longliners came. There's a shelf there too, a big one...and every once in a while something worked its way up. I saw a 300 lb. halibut brought in one night, and there's a bar up there with a crab mounted over it that measured 6 ft. Kinda makes you wonder what we haven't seen yet. > Giant squid are found in all the oceans of the world and are believed > to be the origin of many ancient maritime legends about mysterious > creatures from the deep. And Dick Cheney. I mean seriously, look at that face and tell me he's NOT an arthropod. You just know he relaxes at night by unfolding the other six legs out from his suit, and walking sideways through the White House. > But Pemberton said there was no chance of the Tasmanian discovery > ending up as a massive serve of calamari because its high ammonia > content meant it would most likely taste like floor cleaner. Yum! I forsee a whole new line of floor products on the way... Michael "a fishy requisite-ite-ite-ite-ite" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:39:10 -0400 From: R Edward Poole Subject: dick justice > On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 09:16 PM, steve wrote (quoting gnat): > >>> Dick justice > > 'crusading district attorney by day, $1000/hour gigolo all nite long' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:42:22 -0400 From: R Edward Poole Subject: Re: double reap On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 07:53 PM, James Dignan wrote: > Gus Dudgeon, 59 > > Marion Montgomery, 67 ummm, who? could we institute a 'thumbnail obit' rule for personalities below elvis or einstein in the name-recognition area (so i don't feel so dumb all the time)? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:08:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: double reap R Edward Poole wrote: > On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 07:53 PM, James Dignan wrote: > > > Gus Dudgeon, 59 > > > > Marion Montgomery, 67 > > ummm, who? > > could we institute a 'thumbnail obit' rule for personalities below > elvis or einstein in the name-recognition area (so i don't feel so > dumb all the time)? Gus Dudgeon: Record Producer, notably of XTC's _Nonsuch_, David Bowie's "Space Oddity," and most of Elton John's apparently good records of the 1970's. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=Bvl8m961o3epo~C Marion Montgomery: A genetic mutant made from combining the DNA of Marion Ross and Elizabeth Montgomery, she starred in the sitcom "Happily Ever After" as the puppet voiced by Bobcat Golthwait. Also a performer in the recently cancelled "Greg the Bunny." Or rather, I don't know either. ===== "This week, the White House says President Bush meant no disrespect when he referred to the Pakistani people as 'Pakis.' But just to be on the safe side, White House staffers have cancelled his trip to Nigeria" -- Tina Fey, Saturday Night Live's "Weekend Update" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt . Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:25:34 -0400 From: R Edward Poole Subject: Re: double reap On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 12:08 AM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Marion Montgomery: A genetic mutant made from combining the DNA of > Marion Ross and Elizabeth Montgomery, she starred in the sitcom > "Happily Ever After" as the puppet voiced by Bobcat Golthwait. Also a > performer in the recently cancelled "Greg the Bunny." > > Or rather, I don't know either. > well, i guess that's what + were made for, eh? but, it could be: (a) former university of georgia professor of english literature & noted author of "Why Poe Drank Liquor" -- the noticeably male Prof. Marion Montgomery , -or- (b) the celebrated mississippi-born, London -based jazz vocalist, whom critic Michael Parkinson has inexplicably dubbed an "unique combination of Basin Street and Mayfair" (should that be 'bourbon street'?) -- the distinctly female Marion Montgomery. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:45:28 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: double reap On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 10:42 PM, R Edward Poole wrote: > ummm, who? > > could we institute a 'thumbnail obit' rule for personalities below > elvis or einstein in the name-recognition area (so i don't feel so dumb > all the time)? >> Gus Dudgeon, 59 Producer >> Marion Montgomery, 67 Singer - - Steve __________ We've Got A Fuzzy Box, And We're Gonna Use it. Start saving your pennies folks. The fuzzy warbles series now numbers 12 albums. The first two will be appearing in October, Andy and Colin will be compiling and mastering shortly, I've heard some of the stuff and its fantastic. Tracks like Young Marrieds, All The Peach Songs, Wonder Annual, Art Songs (Something Good With Your Life), Im The Kaiser, we're talking about 250 tracks in total. - Idea Records, 06/21/02 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 00:22:52 -0700 From: drew Subject: Re: flamers On Monday, July 22, 2002, at 06:23 AM, Stewart Russell wrote: > drew wrote: >> My new eMac is totally awesome except that the video has started >> to flake very badly on me. > > hope that doesn't happen to Catherine's. She bought it 'cos it's a > small machine that just works. Or better work. I still don't know what the problem is. I took it in to the Apple store yesterday, and we couldn't reproduce the problem (intermittently it appears as though a hand reaches down and tries to pull the display through the top of the computer, but elastic fixed at the bottom keeps it from getting away), so I brought it home. The thought was that the old Mac monitor, which I had right next to the eMac, was magnetically disturbing the screen. However, it's across the room (and off) and the display is starting to flake right now, as I type. So I guess I'm going to have to take it BACK in sometime, unless I can figure out that it's some other environmental issue. Drew ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 21:44:41 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: double reap >ummm, who? >> Gus Dudgeon, 59 record producer of many top 70s albums - notably "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" >> Marion Montgomery, 67 Jazz singer (and a very good one, too) James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 07:15:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > Stuff I liked: the wooden balls used to imprint names of the guilty Yeah, though as my friend Glenn pointed out, "Okay, one ball comes out, you look at it, the next ball comes out, you pick it up... damn! Which hand was which again?" aaron ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:21:22 -0400 From: Caroline Smith Subject: Re: robyn in t.o. I don't think you'll have a problem finding parking. There are some road closures today though. You might want to check out a Toronto newspaper for details. Try http://www.thestar.ca - Or you could just wing it. As far as a meet up... I was thinking about getting a bite to eat before the show somewhere nearby. The Rivoli has a pretty good menu. Also, Tortilla Flats is right across the street. They're pretty well known for cheap margaritas and Tex Mex. If you've never been to the Horseshoe before, you'll be happy to know that it's a fairly small venue and should be a good show. I saw Robyn there for the first time about ten years ago. Anyway ... here comes the Pope! > From: Mike Swedene > Reply-To: Mike Swedene > Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:57:50 -0700 (PDT) > To: *gaggle of Winchester Choir Boys and Girls* > Subject: Re: robyn in t.o. > > my gf and I are heading up to TO for the show. I need > to find a place to park since there are many more > people heading up there to see the pope (unanticipated > and forgot about it). But I am not certain how early > we will be up there. > > Herbie > > aka-Mike > > > > > ===== > --------------------------------------------- > View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: > http://midy.topcities.com/ > _____________________________________________ > Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes > http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:22:09 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Giant squid washes up on Australian beach MPys2626@aol.com wrote: > > "It's definitely of the giant squid group, which is exciting enough," > David Pemberton, the museum's senior zoology curator, told Australian > Broadcasting Corp radio. Woo, no shit?! I guess I don't need to be a senior curator to tell that the kind of squid that needs to be hauled in a trailer is a *giant* squid. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:27:50 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: robyn in t.o. Caroline Smith wrote: > > Anyway ... here comes the Pope! it was a bit disconcerting to find a horde of snoozing/meditating (I didn't want to enquire) young Catholics in our street this morning. We're kilometres from downtown! Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 08:58:03 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Horselover Fat goes to the Gap >Hmmm...I think that's part of your problem right there, doing the direct >comparison. Anyway... Not at all. I was under no illusion that the movie would be anything like the story, except in the basic concept. I mean, even the process of expanding a story into a feature-length film is going to change it. I was just curious as to what the story was like. >But the product placement was, for once, integral to the movie: the >invasive pinpoint-marketing is part of the same universe of freedom >exchanged for convenience as the Pre-Crime Unit. The product placement was totally unnecessary - the *advertisements* were necessary. The ads didn't have to be for real products - they could have been for made-up products, like the funny talking cereal box. They could have been for anything, as long as the pinpoint marketing concept was there. And speaking of unnecessary, how about Cruise's shopping trip to the Gap? I think that's the most blatant product placement I've ever seen. Boy, Morton looked hot in those groovy Gap pants. Would the Gap even exist in 2054? (A subtler form of advertising there - we are being told that these companies are so wonderful and popular that they'll still be around in 50 years.) >But definitely, someone somewhere should do a good Dick adaptation, >w/o >the need to make it into an "action" film (as if all sf fans are >drooling >adolescent boys what need to see things blowed up real good >every two >minutes) when it isn't. Yeah, how come there's so few SF films about *ideas* rather than action? "Minority Report" struggled with ideas briefly, then dropped them. "Blade Runner" came closer, but was still basically an action/thriller film. My mind is blanking - there must be other idea-oriented SF films, I just can't think of them... "Brazil," I guess... "Brother from Another Planet"? >Actually, that's a good parlor game: which director would you like to >see >tackle a Dick story? I already suggested a good lead actor, >William H. >Macy... He'd be great. I like the idea of Terry Gilliam. He could do "The Man in the High Castle" and John Tuturro could play Frank Frink (or whatever his name is). Who would play Mr. Tagomi? Odd that no directors have tackled Ursula Le Guin, besides that clumsy version of "The Lathe of Heaven." I guess "The Left Hand of Darkness" might be kind of hard to film. n. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 16:28:31 +0000 From: "No Name" Subject: Channeling Would have loved to see the Hitchcock/Cole show. Wish we had a transcript of the paper plate monolog , but even more so - the Robyn unconnecting ZZ Top uncorecting Robyn thing. "Fade Away my Friend" sounds bittersweet, and I hope very bitter and very sweet. - --------------- Lomax did the sort of work for which there isn't adequate praise. Wasnt he also involved in the mag "Sing Out"? did he ever get given one of those American awards the Pres gives, you know, the recipients wear white tie, get given a medal on a fancy ribbon and are hailed for five minutes as an American Treasure? Well--he really -was- an American treasure. - ------------ Nat on "Minority Report": >the whole eye-replacement bit That was great. Major creep. My daughter and I buried our heads in each others shoulders and kept asking my husband if we could look yet. Thats the sort of meaningful family bonding I love. >Besides "Blade Runner" (which was only nominally Dick-related), there hasn't yet been any films that do Dick justice. Even thou the plot was very different than the book I think of "Blade Runner" as a Dick movie. Because the feeling was right. In all the cold techno ruins there was real soul power, warm human pathos (using androids to show most of it, which was extremelly Dickian.) Scott got the spirit right so I dont care about the letter. And its the spirit that "Minority Report" lacks. One just cant identify with Cruise from the inside. The movie has its own virtues but its just not a Dick movie. I agree with Jeffrey that the product placemnet worked as an adversion technique. I am even less willing than before to step into the Gap(I found that so odious. Being addressed by name by a commodity.) Plus the spiders were horrible in all the right ways. And Von Snydow was great. That could have easily have been an unbelievable villian. I could see lots of actors and directors being able to do Dick, but as a commercial blockbuster? But me, Id love some small, incredibly well-crafted flicks. - ---------------- Besides death, cable TV has recently entered my house. Luckily my daughter is as interested in the History Channel as MTV. Besides the cooking and gardening shows Ive developed a weakness for old Colombo episodes. Last night there was one with Roddy McDowell in stuffed pants, William Windom and Ida Lupina. Soooo pre-1974. Also finially saw "Beat the Geek" and loved it. I aspire but Im not sure my glasses are thick enought. Any suggestions for what I might enjoy on all these new channels? Kay _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:37:23 -0700 From: "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" Subject: Lathe of Heaven > Odd that no directors have tackled Ursula Le Guin, besides that clumsy > version of "The Lathe of Heaven." I guess "The Left Hand of Darkness" > might be kind of hard to film. I just saw a promo for a new version of Lathe of Heaven on A&E. Stariing Lucas Hass, Lisa Bonet, James Caan, and David Strathrain. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:49:03 -0700 From: "Jason R. Thornton" Subject: Re: Horselover Fat goes to the Gap At 08:58 AM 7/23/2002 -0700, Natalie Jane wrote: >Would the Gap even exist in 2054? I don't even know if they'll be around in 2003. >Yeah, how come there's so few SF films about *ideas* rather than action? >"Minority Report" struggled with ideas briefly, then dropped them. "Blade >Runner" came closer, but was still basically an action/thriller film. My >mind is blanking - there must be other idea-oriented SF films, I just >can't think of them... "Brazil," I guess... "Brother from Another Planet"? '2001'? Well, maybe no one knows exactly what the ideas are, but it's definitely not an action film. The fifth Star Trek movie too. No thrills or action in that one either. Anything about 'god' must be deep. Maybe 'Vanilla Sky.' That was almost more of a Dick film than 'Minority Report.' >He'd be great. I like the idea of Terry Gilliam. He could do "The Man in >the High Castle" and John Tuturro could play Frank Frink (or whatever his >name is). I've always thought that in the film version of 'High Castle,' the man in the high castle should be a film director, as opposed to an author, who makes a movie about what the planet would have been like if the Nazis and the Japanese had lost WWII. And the part should be played by the actual director of 'High Castle.' And it should be Spike Lee. >Who would play Mr. Tagomi? Koji Yakusho >Odd that no directors have tackled Ursula Le Guin, besides that clumsy >version of "The Lathe of Heaven." I guess "The Left Hand of Darkness" >might be kind of hard to film. I'm reading 'Planet of Exile' right now. Not sure what kind of movie that would make, but it would at least have amber-eyed native chicks in tight leather tunics. - --Jason "Only the few know the sweetness of the twisted apples." - Sherwood Anderson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:25:44 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Horselover Fat goes to the Gap On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > Yeah, how come there's so few SF films about *ideas* rather than action? > "Minority Report" struggled with ideas briefly, then dropped them. "Blade > Runner" came closer, but was still basically an action/thriller film. My > mind is blanking - there must be other idea-oriented SF films, I just can't > think of them... "Brazil," I guess... "Brother from Another Planet"? Some things about Minority Report TOTALLY reminded me of Brazil, especially when Cruise ends up with the halo and put into the thing with the other "prisoners", but gets out. I thought right away of the end of Brazil, with the real ending and the Love Conquers All ending. Blech. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 18:35:38 +0100 (BST) From: Michael R Godwin Subject: RE: Quiz (fwd) I just queried a BBC quiz, in which said that the first dot com business preceded the first laptop computer. They sent back this list of dates giving first registered dot com as 1985 and laptops as 1986. I suppose the answers are correct, but how can you have a dot com business without a browser (listed as 1991)? - - Mike Godwin PS Saw Richard Dreyfus on Bewitched the other day playing a teenage warlock with a crush on Samantha. His career was obviously going nowhere ... n.p. Boorman the Chauffeur, Blue Oyster Cult ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 13:38:29 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Quiz (fwd) On Tue, Jul 23, 2002, Michael R Godwin wrote: > I just queried a BBC quiz, in which said that the first dot com business > preceded the first laptop computer. They sent back this list of dates > giving first registered dot > com as 1985 and laptops as 1986. I suppose the answers are correct, but > how can you have a dot com business without a browser (listed as 1991)? telnet? gopher? I remember going to cdnow.com when it was a telnet site. Not sure if they had a web site at the time, since at the time I had no idea what the web was. Someone gave me a URL and I had no idea what to make of it. I tried ftping to it, telnetting to it, nothing worked. :) - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:48:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jonathan Fetter" Subject: Re: Lathe of Heaven A film version of "Left Hand" would probably require a ton of styrofoam pellets/soap flakes. I agree that it would make a fine film. I am actually surprised that no one hasn't at least tried to make a B-movie version--I guess Le Guin is fairly protective of her stories? On Tue, 23 Jul 2002 09:37:23 -0700, "Jason Brown (Echo Services Inc)" wrote : > > Odd that no directors have tackled Ursula Le Guin, besides that clumsy > > > version of "The Lathe of Heaven." I guess "The Left Hand of Darkness" > > > might be kind of hard to film. > > I just saw a promo for a new version of Lathe of Heaven on A&E. > Stariing Lucas Hass, Lisa Bonet, James Caan, and David Strathrain. Any indication of broadcast time? Jon, who will probably never see the PBS version of "Lathe." ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #235 ********************************