From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #234 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, July 22 2002 Volume 11 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Side 3 ["Brian Hoare" ] Robyn at the weekend [MSewell@oxfam.org.uk] Reap ["matt sewell" ] Re: flamers [Stewart Russell ] Re: robyn in t.o. [Stewart Russell ] Re: Robyn at the weekend [Stewart Russell ] Re: Robyn at the weekend [rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk] Re: Novelty [Ken Ostrander ] Re: robyn in t.o. [Mike Swedene ] OT: Mac external HD Crisis-HELP! ["Poole, R. Edward" ] live death auction [guapo stick ] Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) ["Natalie Jane" Subject: Side 3 From www.underwatermoonlight.com "The new album's "Side Three," a CD of five new studio tracks, will be available at shows." Do they mean that those who can't get to the shows will be reduced to scrounging cdrs? Its been too long waiting for this album. I've never had too much advance warning of an RH release but NDL has been floating around all year and there's still 2 months to go... I will be amused, but suprised, if the songs previewed on the US tour are those on side 3 leaving the main release to stuff like that played in Dorset. BTW The live action Scooby Doo is awful. Go and rent a tape of Witch's Ghost or Zombie Island if you want a feature length SD experience. Brian np JFS _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:36:46 +0100 From: MSewell@oxfam.org.uk Subject: Robyn at the weekend Well, missed Robyns appearance*S* this weekend... I'd ruled out the Lloyd Cole gig as it was a support and I really can't stand LC, so it would have been a bit of a waste of time. However, listening to Loose Ends? You know, the show presented by Ned Sherrin had Robyn playing a song live (I can't remember which. It'll come to me) and also mentioned that, as well as the Astoria gig, he was also playing in Clerkenwell (presumably the 3 Kings) with Johnny Clark as a bonus... All I can say about this is GRrrrr! If it had just been on the website, or mailed to this list... I mean, how many UK fegs are there here? Brian H, Chris G, Gary S (If he's still around), Godders, Griff, Jim, Joe, Tony and me (apologies if I've forgotten anyone... it IS early... ) surely that's not presenting too much of a danger of totally packing out the Feghorn? I guess no-one has a duty to at least let their fans know about secret shows, I mean, *my* gigs are announced to people that couldn't even care less (yes, I am, since you didn't ask - solo at the Banbury Mill Arse Centre on Tuesday (supporting Fillup Shack) and with band at the Wheatsheaf on 29th of this month (that one's free)). There again, I guess I *am* a little less stellar(!). Anyway, in case you've read this whinge this far, here's an account I found posted on another list, of the LC support on Sat. Cheers, Matt: > Music Makers 2002 - Astoria, London 19/7/02 > > Robyn played last night at the Astoria in London, as the opening act > of Music Makers 2002 (just him and Lloyd Cole, with the billed Louis > Eliot a no-show). I found it odd for a general admission gig to have > seating, arranged in nice tidy rows facing the stage. We felt a > little like we were at a school assembley. > > At around 7.30pm Robyn bounced on stage with a handful of paper > plates, and launched into his opening dialogue of two-dimensional > performers who may appear to be Bryan Adams, or Ryan Adams, but when > you look at them from the side they disappear. It was explained how > this phenomenon in conjunction with certain special properties of the > paper plates could lead a marriage proposal headlong into divorce. > > He introduced his mouth organ (sorry, "harp") set-up as a present to > the 14-year old Robyn Hitchcock from Bob Dylan himself, who travelled > to Robyn's house by way of a small, heavy-rudderred boat - which was > very impressive as Robyn lived on a street at the time. You know the > sort of thing. He was on good form, and squeezed a lot of chat in > between the songs to a generally receptive audience, although > possibly because a sit-down gig makes the Astoria seem a little > cavernous, it wasn't the most intimate of environments. > > Robyn was onstage for about 45 minutes - just him, his guitar and > (sometimes) a "harp" - during which time he played: > > * The Ghost In You (Psychedelic Furs cover) > * No, I Don't Remember Guildford > * Arms of Love > * 52 Stations > (In response to a sudden request from the audience. "I wrote this > song in 1981," he said, "the year before the Falkland Islands... were > discovered." He went on for a while whilst repeatedly attempting the > intro.) > * More Than This (Roxy Music cover) > * A Man's Got To Know His Limitations, Briggs > * "Unconnected Personality Traits" by ZZ Top > (Another sudden request. Someone asked for "Unconnected Personality > Traits". Robyn replied "'Uncorrected Personality Traits' is the song > I wrote. 'Unconnected Personality Traits' was by ZZ Top, it goes > like this..." and he went on to play it! Extemporamungous!) > * Fade Away, My Friend (? anyone?) > > I felt the choice of songs a little odd and very low-key - perhaps > this was clouded by it being my first one-man-band RH gig. But "Ghost > In You" and the unexpected (even by Robyn) "52 Stations" were worth > the admission alone. > > At the end, Robyn thanked the crowd and bounced off again. Plenty of > applause, but no encore, sadly. So roll on October, when we can give > it up to the Soft Boys! > > B > > PS Lloyd Cole was a pleasant surprise. During his first miserable > lovelorn song he stopped, looked at someone in the front row and > said; "I thought I could smell chips." > We have the chance to lift millions out of poverty. Only one thing is missing -- you. Please join the Oxfam trade campaign at http://www.maketradefair.com Oxfam works with others to find lasting solutions to poverty and suffering. 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Visit the web site at http://www.oxfam.org.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 13:06:05 +0100 From: "matt sewell" Subject: Reap Alan Lomax http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/3086206.html Cheers Matt >From: shaun belcher >Reply-To: flyinshoes@yahoogroups.com >To: flyinshoes@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [flyinshoes] [Fwd: Alan Lomax Dies] >Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:37:13 +0000 > > > > Subject: Alan Lomax Dies > > > > Alan Lomax Dies > > > > Star Tribune Link > > > > http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/3086206.html > > > > > > Austin Statesman > > > > http://www.austin360.com/aas/life/ap/ap_story.html/Entertainment/AP.V3782.AP > > -Obit-Lomax.html > > > > P-Obit-Lomax.html> > > > > Alan Lomax, the celebrated musicologist who helped preserve America's and > > the world's heritage by making thousands of recordings of folk, blues and > > jazz musicians from the 1930s onward, died Friday in Florida. He was 87. > > Lomax died at Mease Countryside Hospital in Safety Harbor, Fla., according > > to Lisa Kissinger of Vinson Funeral Home. Kissinger said she didn't know the > > cause of death. Lomax moved in 1996 from New York to the Tampa area. > > > > >shaun belcher > >http://www.flyinshoes.fsnet.co.uk/worldofsdb > >_______________________________________________________________________ >Freeserve AnyTime, only #13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! >For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call free on 0800 970 8890 > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:23:14 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: flamers drew wrote: > > My new eMac is totally awesome except that the video has started > to flake very badly on me. hope that doesn't happen to Catherine's. She bought it 'cos it's a small machine that just works. Or better work. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:26:39 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: robyn in t.o. twofangs.rand wrote: > > Who's all going to the gig? me, and someone else is getting my ticket. Catherine can't make it. I'm busy before the show, alas. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 09:29:14 -0400 From: Stewart Russell Subject: Re: Robyn at the weekend MSewell@oxfam.org.uk wrote: > > PS Lloyd Cole ... said; > "I thought I could smell chips." you can take the boy out of Glasgow, but you can't take the Glaswegian* out of the boy. Stewart *: well, Welsh-Glaswegian, at any rate. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:46:25 +0100 From: rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk Subject: Re: Robyn at the weekend MSewell@oxfam.org.uk wrote: > Well, missed Robyns appearance*S* this weekend... I'd ruled out the Lloyd > Cole gig as it was a support and I really can't stand LC, so it would have > been a bit of a waste of time. However, listening to Loose Ends? You know, > the show presented by Ned Sherrin had Robyn playing a song live (I can't > remember which. It'll come to me) and also mentioned that, as well as the > Astoria gig, he was also playing in Clerkenwell (presumably the 3 Kings) > with Johnny Clark as a bonus... Loose Ends song was The Speed of Things. I was driving in my car (sounds like the opening line of a Madness song) at the time, it's nice to be surprised by a bit of Robyn from time to time but it would be better to have a bit of notice. It's a shame they don't repeat Loose Ends, as I'd record the Robyn as an mp3 with my little digital radio thing. - -- Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:42:10 -0400 From: Ken Ostrander Subject: Re: Novelty >The list's been slow so I submit the following for your >perusal: > >http://www.jaguaro.org/feature/03-09-02_wesk.shtml > >A source of endless flames, no doubt. just reading the top three, it occurs to me that this guy is either a tool of the used record stores union or just wants to irritate as many people as possible. for every "critically bulletproof artifact" and "next big thing", there's 10 classic albums that don't suck, even those with legions of fans. i've already wasted too much time on this. ken "turning your orbit around" the kenster np i can hear the heart beating as one yo la tengo http://www.likehumansdo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 07:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Re: robyn in t.o. my gf and I are heading up to TO for the show. I need to find a place to park since there are many more people heading up there to see the pope (unanticipated and forgot about it). But I am not certain how early we will be up there. Herbie aka-Mike ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:59:28 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: OT: Mac external HD Crisis-HELP! Could any of the Mac gurus help me out here? I have an iMac-G3/400, OS X (10.1.5), with an 80GB external HD connected via Firewire. Last night, while editing large audio files (45 minute cassette-digitized files), I suffered a power failure -- I think while a large file was writing to the external HD. After restart, the external drive wouldn't mount (error message to the effect that OS X couldn't read any volumes on the disc that was trying to mount, giving the option to initialize the HD, "eject," or "continue w/o mounting" -- I selected "continue" and the HD did not show up on the desktop). When I ran the disk utility that comes with OS X, it found the drive on the firewire bus and identified it as needing repairs (however, the "repair" button was greyed out, which I took to mean it needed to be repaired by a different utility). When I ran Norton Disk Doctor (6.0), it couldn't even find the drive (even when I selected "show missing drives" and it re-scanned the bus). So, how can I fix this thing/recover my data, if Norton can't even find the drive? Is there another good OS X-capable HD repair/recovery utility I should check out? All of my video & audio files (>55GB) are on this drive! Help!! 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To reply to our email administrator directly, send an email to postmaster@dsmo.com Dickstein Shapiro Morin & Oshinsky LLP http://www.legalinnovators.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:24:15 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: live death auction noticed this on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=894071003 it's a copy of the live death promo. the auction ends in about seven hours and is currently bidless at $25 (which isn't that bad a price for it). i think the reason no one's seeimngly noticed this because the seller mispelled robyn's name. in case anyone needs/wants this... woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 08:23:54 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) So I bit the bullet, swallowed my pride, and for Phil's sake and not that other guy's, went to see "Minority Report" last night. I read the story really, really fast while sitting in Powell's a few weeks ago. The main character is a balding middle-aged guy about to retire, a typical Dick protagonist - just like Tom Cruise, who is also balding and ... err, well, his head is shaved at one point. Anyway, I didn't think he was as painfully dreadful as he was in "Eyes Wide Shut," though as in that movie, the other actors all showed him up terribly, from Samantha Morton and Max von Sydow (whose accent slipped a bit) down to the precogs' goofy caretaker Wally and the ghoulish jailer. In comparison, Cruise was like an empty hole in the center of the movie. I couldn't even look at him half the time - my eyes just slid over the void of his face. I really enjoyed the first ... oh, half hour of the film. The imagined future was clever and detailed, and as the forces of Dickish paranoia closed in, I was actually eager to find out what happened next. Admittedly, I was almost expecting to see "Hot Wheels" stenciled on the Cars of the Future (tm). I got my real first disappointment with the initial wave of product placement - especially because I had thinking, just before going into the theatre, "Hey, at least with a movie set in the future, there won't be any product placement!" Arrgh. Then I finally realized I don't give a shit about fight and chase sequences that don't involve Jackie Chan (or someone like him). And it was all - if not downhill, then at least a bumpy ride from then on out. Stuff I liked: the wooden balls used to imprint names of the guilty (and did anyone else think Agatha was enjoying herself a little ... TOO ... much when one of those got spewed out?), the spiders, the whole eye-replacement bit (I was SO disappointed when Cruise didn't look like Palmer Eldritch afterwards), the weird one-sided relationship between Wally and Agatha, the tug of war between pre-ordination and choice (which was not dwelt on nearly enough), and the adventures of Agatha in a pre-ordained universe. Stuff I disliked: just about everything else, including the fifty million false endings, the vomit-worthy repulsiveness of the real one, "This house is so full of love," the total lack of depth to any of the characters, the fact that everything was obviously filmed on a set (including the outside scenes), and the endless, endless gaffes and plot holes. Hey, you know what, Steven? Carnivorous plants can't do that. She's a precog, not a clairvoyant - there's a difference. You can't kill yourself like that - at least, not straight away. But hey - Steven doesn't care. Whatever, man. It's just a movie. This was half a good movie floundering in a sea of dross. It's really disappointing, because there is definitely a "Blade Runner" lurking in there - - the imagery is striking and the ideas are really interesting - but Spielberg is too clumsy to bring it out. And yet again, poor Horselover Fat is betrayed by a half-assed director and half-assed script. Besides "Blade Runner" (which was only nominally Dick-related), there hasn't yet been any films that do Dick justice. Maybe someday, some brilliant unknown auteur will give us a glorious "Three Stigmata" or "Ubik." Someday. Please note that I got through this entire review without making a Cruise/Dick joke. Thank you. n. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:42:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) On Mon, 22 Jul 2002, Natalie Jane wrote: > So I bit the bullet, swallowed my pride, and for Phil's sake and not that > other guy's, went to see "Minority Report" last night. I read the story > really, really fast while sitting in Powell's a few weeks ago. Hmmm...I think that's part of your problem right there, doing the direct comparison. Anyway... The main > character is a balding middle-aged guy about to retire, a typical Dick > protagonist - just like Tom Cruise, who is also balding and ... err, well, > his head is shaved at one point. Anyway, I didn't think he was as painfully > dreadful as he was in "Eyes Wide Shut," though as in that movie, the other > actors all showed him up terribly, from Samantha Morton and Max von Sydow > (whose accent slipped a bit) down to the precogs' goofy caretaker Wally and > the ghoulish jailer. In comparison, Cruise was like an empty hole in the > center of the movie. I couldn't even look at him half the time - my eyes > just slid over the void of his face. Yes...but in a sense, that was pertinent: precisely because Cruise's character (and Cruise) is such an empty shell, that allowed him to not think about all the problems w/the precogs' use the movie brings to the surface. > I really enjoyed the first ... oh, half hour of the film. The imagined > future was clever and detailed, and as the forces of Dickish paranoia closed > in, I was actually eager to find out what happened next. Admittedly, I was > almost expecting to see "Hot Wheels" stenciled on the Cars of the Future > (tm). I got my real first disappointment with the initial wave of product > placement - especially because I had thinking, just before going into the > theatre, "Hey, at least with a movie set in the future, there won't be any > product placement!" But the product placement was, for once, integral to the movie: the invasive pinpoint-marketing is part of the same universe of freedom exchanged for convenience as the Pre-Crime Unit. At least for me, the obnoxiousness of the ads, and the way they worked in conjunction w/the movie's more obvious theme, undercut them in such a way that, reading an interview online w/the actual ad agency folk who designed the ads (who were wildly enthusiastic in wishing they could *really* target people as in the movie), it became very clear just how clueless those ad folks were. I think I posted on this point before...but it may have been on another list. If anyone cares, let me know & I'll look it up. Really, this is the only part of your review I really differ on you with - the rest I kind of have to twist around mentally to look at the film otherwise. > Arrgh. Then I finally realized I don't give a shit > about fight and chase sequences that don't involve Jackie Chan (or someone > like him). And it was all - if not downhill, then at least a bumpy ride > from then on out. Yeah, the Hollywood-ness of the movie was annoying - I grunted and sweated mentally to make them into objects of theme rather than just means of entertainment...but it didn't quite work, and I was well aware that I was tryhing to force a reading onto the film. As for the rest, yeah, there were a zillion holes, the characters were...not really characters, etc. etc. I can kind of defend the characterless characters if I pretend the movie's a movie "of ideas" - except the ideas weren't as well developed as I would have liked. And the ending was pretty urksome. Still, perhaps because I had fairly low expectations, I was okay with it. But definitely, someone somewhere should do a good Dick adaptation, w/o the need to make it into an "action" film (as if all sf fans are drooling adolescent boys what need to see things blowed up real good every two minutes) when it isn't. Actually, that's a good parlor game: which director would you like to see tackle a Dick story? I already suggested a good lead actor, William H. Macy... - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Drive ten thousand miles across America and you will know more about ::the country than all the institutes of sociology and political science ::put together. __Jean Baudrillard__ np: Velvet Underground _Peel Slowly & See_ disc 2 (first album) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:02:39 -0700 From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: Re: Spielberg doesn't know Dick! (semi-spoilers) >Actually, that's a good parlor game: which director would you like to see >tackle a Dick story? I already suggested a good lead actor, William H. >Macy... > Terry Gilliam!!!! Kenneth ************************************ "An enormous conflict between words and deeds is prevalent today: everyone talks about freedom, democracy, justice, human rights, about peace and saving the world from nuclear apocalypse; and at the same time, everyone, more or less, consciously or unconsciously, serves those values and ideals only to the extent necessary to serve himself and his worldly interests, personal interests, group interests, power interests, property interests, and state or great-power interests. . . . So the power structures apparently have no other choice than to sink deeper into this vicious maelstrom, and contemporary people apparently have no other choice than to wait around until the final inhibition drops away. But who should begin? Who should break this vicious circle? Responsibility cannot be preached but only borne, and the only possible place to begin is with oneself." - --Vaclav Havel ************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #234 ********************************