From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #229 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 16 2002 Volume 11 : Number 229 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: reap [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] robyn solo for trade [R Edward Poole ] Tree (NYC & CHI) LOWEr BRanches [Mike Swedene ] Checkin' in [Eb ] my weekend, by Natalie, age 8 ["Natalie Jane" ] Rew: Sensible Hitchcock [Brian ] Re: Rew: Sensible Hitchcock [Ken Weingold ] Re: Sensible Hitchcock ["Chris Franz" ] Re: Rew: Sensible Hitchcock [Brian ] Re: Sensible Hitchcock [Brian ] Visual Affects ["No Name" ] Re: Visual Affects [Tom Clark ] Re: Visual Affects ["No Name" ] Re: Visual Affects [Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:12 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: reap >Portrait photographer Yousuf Karsh. damn. Fantastic portrait photographer - his main rule was that once you find out what the subject should be doing with his or her hands, the rest is easy. And hands are often very important in his pictures (such as his most famous, one of Churchill). Personally I think his portrait of Castro taken circa 1960 is his best. James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:45:25 -0400 From: R Edward Poole Subject: robyn solo for trade I'm finally getting around to converting some cassettte-only shows to cd-r, starting with the solo acoustic robyn hitchcock, chicago (lounge axe, r.i.p.) july 27, 1990. [http://www.jh3.com/robyn/base/gig.asp?chubb=340] To celebrate the revival of some quality music (which has lain dormant since my car w/ the tape deck dies 5 years ago), I'm offering this show for trade to all takers. I remember promising this to several of you -- lang, wells, nuppy? -- if you are still interested, drop me a line. Anyone else who is interested & who has something to trade, let me know. it's almost done, just needs some eq'ing & a bit of editing, so it should be ready to go by the end of the week. - -ed p.s. i dropped my work email from feg, so no one has to put up with my huge (and out of my control) work .sig/disclaimer/confidentiality notice/uptight lawyers cya'ing anymore. [sheepish grin] ummmm, sorry. [/sheepish grin] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 21:47:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Swedene Subject: Tree (NYC & CHI) LOWEr BRanches Hey all.... I can not find the people's branch listed below. After several emails, nothing has come up. So I am offering the cd direct to you. Please email me and we'll work it out. If you have stuff for trade that would be cool, if not some b&p would work just as well. Herbie My NEW Leaves: Robert Rizzo robertrizzo33@nyc.rr.com Marc Holden mholden666@earthlink.net John Simon simon50@aol.com NW -> Roald Dahl's "The Witches" on WAM ===== - --------------------------------------------- View my Websight & CDR Trade page at: http://midy.topcities.com/ _____________________________________________ Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 02:05:35 -0700 From: Eb Subject: Checkin' in Since the Quail did it, I thought I'd drop a mid-year top 10. This has been a strange year, because some notable "2002" discs (Ed Harcourt, SFAs, Mull Historical Society, the Cranes, maybe Starsailor?) were actually released last year in the U.K. Furthermore, the chronology of the Waits albums is *also* somewhat screwy, since the material was conceived/composed in past years. In any case, my picks go something like: 1 Tom Waits/Alice ...I heard Blood Money first and was somewhat disappointed, but Alice delivered the goods. Not quite as good as Mule Variations, but damn, this disc is a heartbreaker. 2 Ed Harcourt/Here Be Monsters ...I can't even remember the last debut I heard which was this good. Oh, wait, I *can* remember: Rufus Wainwright. That's four years ago. 3 Cornelius/Point ...This album tickles me no end. I could listen to it all day, and still find new little twists and turns to enjoy. 4 Tom Waits/Blood Money ...Seems a bit lazy and underwritten by Waits' standards, but still strong. 5 Paul Westerberg/Stereo + Mono ...I'm quite surprised that I like this album(s) so much. The first Westerberg release since Pleased to Meet Me which I don't feel sheepish about owning. "Indie" agrees with him. 6 Super Furry Animals/Rings Around the World ...I'm still absorbing this album somewhat, but it seems like the best thing they've ever done. 7 Neil Young/Are You Passionate? ...Disappointing, but still solid. Hope he changes direction again, with the next one. 8 Sonic Youth/Murray Street ...I thought the previous one was the worst SY album ever, so I'm pleased that I like this much more. The production is thin and the disc could use another song or two, but the crescendo-ing instrumental builds are the best the band has done in awhile. And Thurston is actually trying to *sing*, bless his heart. 9 Elvis Costello/When I Was Cruel ...Disappointing. Too much Tricky influence, and too much time on his hands. 10 Badly Drawn Boy/About a Boy ...Might rank a slot or two higher, if two lousy instrumental tracks were deleted. Also worth a nod: Bryan Ferry/Frantic (another surprising comeback), Bowie/Heathen (decent, but falls far short of its hype), Mull Historical Society/Loss (uneven, but irresistible in spots), Enon/High Society (doomed to be overlooked), Weezer/Maladroit (I guess that I'm one of the scant few who rates this above the green album) and Kristian Hoffman/& (http://www.kristianhoffman.com). Four possible contenders, whose new albums I haven't heard yet: Moby, Guided by Voices, Peter Gabriel (soundtrack) and Pere Ubu. Haven't heard the Breeders or Oasis yet either, but I can't imagine they're much good. And the Emperor's New Clothes award goes to Wilco/Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, naturally. Yes, I'm still subscribed, though I switched to the digest. I just lost the will to participate, I suppose. Diminishing returns. What's new? Mmm...I wrote my first set of liner notes. Five-thousand words for a Claudine Longet compilation to be released in Spain. It's named after my own website, believe it or not. I didn't get to see Elvis Costello, Paul McCartney or the TWho, but I've seen fine shows by acts including Wainwright, Harcourt, Ben Folds, Firewater, Tanya Donelly, the Kingsbury Manx and Neil Finn. Favorite films I've seen recently: "Mulholland Drive," "Sweet and Lowdown," "Cookie's Fortune" and "Christmas in July." Oh, and much to everyone's surprise who knows me, I started running about four months ago. I'm running around 20 miles a week, nowadays. Lordy, I'm svelte. Keep an eye out for heart-attack announcements. Eb ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:18:22 -0700 From: "Natalie Jane" Subject: my weekend, by Natalie, age 8 So on Saturday, I was walking out of the guitar shop where I have my guitar lesson, and I walked past this guy with frizzy hair, a greying goatee, and sunglasses... Scott McCaughey?? It very well could have been, since the Minus 5 and Tuatara had played in Portland the night before. I didn't think to look if the guy with him was Peter Buck. I almost turned around and walked back into the store, but I thought that was kind of lame. Saturday and Sunday were taken up by the Portland Zine Symposium. It was fun - I got to see the infamous 48 Hour Movie again (now entitled "Rotating Food" - see the trailers at gracies.org/48hr) - I hung out with the lovely Carole Reichstein, screamed "HAMBURGER!" at the top of my lungs in a crowded room (again, see gracies.org/48hr) and learned how to scam free stuff out of supermarkets. I traded tinfoil sculptures for zines, and sold my very first sculpture, Bast, for a buck and some change. I also talked to Shannon Wheeler, who does "Too Much Coffee Man" (a comic some of you might be familiar with). He was so funny - I was looking at one of his comics and he started excitedly pointing out this one bit he was really proud of, and explaining the complexity of the plot. He was kind of cute, too. I gave him a tinfoil Minotaur and he made it stand up by leaning it on its tail. I didn't see Calvin Johnson perform. A friend of mine said he was terrible and she was never so glad to see a musician talk a lot between songs, because it meant he wasn't playing. All of the little hipster zinester kids seemed very excited about a band called Against Me! (exclamation point included) which played Sat. night. Anyone heard of these guys? Anyway, now it is Monday. n. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:26:02 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Rew: Sensible Hitchcock Neither of the Captain's 1st two albums (Women and Captain First/The Power Of Love) are available on CD release. There is a comp album (A day in the life(?)) out there with a few of the tracks that Robyn and the Captain did together, but alas, it is also only available on vinyl. - ------ New Rew: Thumbs up! Nice poppy tunes perfect for the summer! The accapello (sp) Purple and Orange Stripes I actually kinda like. It reminds me something off Live At The Portland Arms. June Barley: pure melodic pop. It's funny. I was listening to it in my car and I stopped off at the store and they were playing Walking On SunShine. I like the overall mix (Pat Collier) better than Tunnel into Summer. Hopefully this is a good omen for the new Soft Boys record. (hate the title Nextdoorland, love Fresh Creme ....) Nice to hear from Eb, Nuppy mondays.... At Saturday, 13 July 2002, you wrote: >Which, if any, of the songs Robyn and Captain Sensible did together are >available on CD? I haven't been able to track anything down yet, Marc > >I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed >psychiatrist is our "friend." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:22:00 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: Re: Rew: Sensible Hitchcock On Mon, Jul 15, 2002, Brian wrote: > Neither of the Captain's 1st two albums (Women and Captain First/The > Power Of Love) are available on CD release. > > There is a comp album (A day in the life(?)) out there with a few > of the tracks that Robyn and the Captain did together, but alas, > it is also only available on vinyl. Damn. All I have are Revolution Now and the best of CD released a few years ago or so. RN has an interesting cast, including Eddy Grant, but no Robyn. The best of doesn't say much. Anyone know if Robyn is on any of that? The cover has pin-up doll looking pieces. - -Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:14:31 -0700 From: "Chris Franz" Subject: Re: Sensible Hitchcock Marc H: >Which, if any, of the songs Robyn and Captain Sensible did together are >available on CD? I haven't been able to track anything down yet, Marc An Italian various artists compilation entitled "One Shot '80 Vol 13" has a version of the Sensible/Hitchcock tune "Brenda." http://www.universalmusic.it/web/album/index.php?id=8961 This information courtesy Jonas Werstad's comprehensive discography of Tony Mansfield productions at http://www.algonet.se/~jonwar/mansfield-sensible.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:20:50 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: Rew: Sensible Hitchcock Check out allmusic.com They mention what a bummer it is that the early stuff didn't make it to the best of comp. Probably A&M licensing stuff. At Monday, 15 July 2002, you wrote: >On Mon, Jul 15, 2002, Brian wrote: >> Neither of the Captain's 1st two albums (Women and Captain First/The >> Power Of Love) are available on CD release. >> >> There is a comp album (A day in the life(?)) out there with a few >> of the tracks that Robyn and the Captain did together, but alas, >> it is also only available on vinyl. > >Damn. All I have are Revolution Now and the best of CD released a few >years ago or so. RN has an interesting cast, including Eddy Grant, >but no Robyn. The best of doesn't say much. Anyone know if Robyn is >on any of that? The cover has pin-up doll looking pieces. > >-Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:32:24 -0400 From: Brian Subject: Re: Sensible Hitchcock Here's what the Captain himself has to say about a CD release: 'That bunch of old hippies at A&M are still refusing to release my first two albums on CD & won't licence them to anyone else either. I think it's scandalous - ring them on 0171 705 4343 & don't take no for an answer. Bloody sods, I mean, how are any of these dance bands gonna sample me & get me back in the charts where I belong; eh playmates?'. The full length version of 'Brenda' is included on the Italian various artists CD "One Shot ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:00:24 +0000 From: "No Name" Subject: Visual Affects Mmmnnn, zuccini-raison bread, cherry tomatoes... Maybe someday Ill put an oddly-proportioned deck on my gabled roof, its the only way I'd ever catch enough light to do fruits or veggies. - -------------------- James: >well, considering he was born John Cheese it's possible! Huh? >John Cheese. Ah yes, a nickname the Dutch settlers in New Amsterdam gave >the Brit settlers. Or Jan Kaes at least. Which over the years developed >into the word Yankees. So Im a big cheese then. :-) And congrats Unca, what does Onawa mean? - ---------------------- This weekend we saw "Minority Report." Its very gripping while you're seeing it, but a bit cold. Also, I ended up feeling far more for Agnes(a precog and a "minor" character) than for any of the other humans, which Im not sure streagthened the story. Also rented "SlingBlade" due to list endorsments and ... Well--"Sling Blade" is like the polar opposite of "Minority Report." Its slow and gentle till the very end, thou incredibly powerful throughout. Afterwards, you know its a movie you'll remember for the rest of your life. Now I love a good popcorn movie, I wish there were more ones as worthwhile as "Minorty Report," ... but I can't help thinking that maybe, just maybe, Cruise/Speilberg as a team are a bit too cold to get the full depth out of Dick? I wonder if I have this feeling due to the visuals. The color seemed odd, drained out in some frames, almost too bright in others(the water in the pool scene.) Is this cause of digital or special effects? Cruise is a very exterior actor, its hard to feel whats inside him, and I wonder if the lightening/photography enhanced this? For me visuals have alot to do with how movies work(somehow the way the vegatation blew around Thorton when he was traveling home seemed to set the tone) but I know very little about how they're done. I know Steve works in special effects and many of you know more about movies than I do. Could anyone shed some enlightenment? Kay _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:36:13 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Visual Affects on 7/15/02 1:00 PM, No Name at theyarenotlong@hotmail.com wrote: > but I can't help thinking that maybe, just maybe, Cruise/Speilberg as a team > are a bit too cold to get the full depth out of Dick? You meant to do that, right? - -tc p.s. This comes to you courtesy of my new 800MHz PowerBook G4. Watch out Fric Chaud!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:00:24 +0000 From: "No Name" Subject: Re: Visual Affects >From: Tom Clark >on 7/15/02 1:00 PM, No Name at theyarenotlong@hotmail.com wrote: > > > but I can't help thinking that maybe, just maybe, Cruise/Speilberg as a >team > > are a bit too cold to get the full depth out of Dick? > >You meant to do that, right? No! But thanks for "pointing it" out to me. Its pretty funny, isn't it? :-) Kay "Your hair is reminiscent of a digesting yak." Surrealist compliment generator. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:52:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Visual Affects On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, No Name wrote: > This weekend we saw "Minority Report." Its very gripping while you're seeing > it, but a bit cold. Also, I ended up feeling far more for Agnes(a precog > and a "minor" character) than for any of the other humans, which Im not sure > streagthened the story. No, I think both the coldness generally and your reaction to Agnes was appropriate and, insofar as it matters, intended. In some ways it makes an interesting pairing w/_A Cockwork Orange_ in that regard. > I wonder if I have this feeling due to the visuals. The color seemed odd, > drained out in some frames, almost too bright in others(the water in the > pool scene.) Is this cause of digital or special effects? Couldn't tell you - but again, I think the look of the film served its point. I find it intriguing in that there's current political debate re how much privacy and rights people are willing to give up for "safety." An irony in the movie - even aside from whether the precrime unit was really successful - is that there was lots of *non*-murderous abuse, whether from criminals or everyday callous human interaction. To me, the movie emphasized that "safety" can be a chimerical goal, and a dangerous one insofar as it's used to mobilize the public against itself (more accurately, portions of the public against other portions). > Cruise is a very exterior actor, its hard to feel whats inside him, > and I wonder if the lightening/photography enhanced this? Hey, I wouldn't *want* to feel what's inside Tom Cruise. But yeah, he is - and as I said, the scenes in which he's called upon to look as if he's *thinking* are the worst in the movie. He just can't do it. He squinches his face slightly, as if trying to remember how other people look when they're thinking, and his teeth buck out, his eyes go unfocused, and he tilts his head. For the life of me, I don't get why people think he's *attractive* forchrissakes. Also: I noticed that two or three people were credited with "designing" Cruise's hairstyle in the movie. Excuse me, but...basically it was 1/4" all around. How much "design" is there in that? - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::Californians invented the concept of the life-style. ::This alone warrants their doom. __Don DeLillo, WHITE NOISE__ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #229 ********************************