From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #228 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, July 14 2002 Volume 11 : Number 228 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Sensible Hitchcock ["Marc Holden" ] Calling all vintage Apple geeks ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Captain Sensible & Robyn ["Russ Reynolds" ] REAP ["Michael Wells" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 10:24:41 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Sensible Hitchcock Which, if any, of the songs Robyn and Captain Sensible did together are available on CD? I haven't been able to track anything down yet, Marc I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed psychiatrist is our "friend." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 12:37:15 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Calling all vintage Apple geeks I have an old Apple computer. A very old Apple computer. It's shaped like an Apple IIe (pic here: ). But the weird thing is, it's badged IIGS. Now, any Apple geek knows that the IIGS was the small box that came after the honkin' big Mac IIs circa 1988, like this one: . But the IIGS in that picture isn't even close to the IIGS I own. And to make things even more complicated, I'll be danged if I can figure out how to work the danged thing. It boots up, makes a cute little "ping" sound, and presents me with a ">" cursor. And nothing else. How on earth do you use a computer without a GUI? Got a clue? Please send it my way. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 12:33:08 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Cheese/Jewish comedy >Hmm, what cheese goes with basil? John Cleese? well, considering he was born John Cheese it's possible! John Cheese. Ah yes, a nickname the Dutch settlers in New Amsterdam gave the Brit settlers. Or Jan Kaes at least. Which over the years developed into the word Yankees. >>British comedy was filled with Jewish conedians for many years... > >Well, jeez, American comedy was about 99.999% Jewish for much of the >previous century... I have no doubt of that. The Marx Brothers, Woody Allen, and Mel Brooks come to mind immediately, and a quick think results in many more. But this was in answer to a question about where the British Jewish celebrities were. To which list you can add Marty Feldman. >That's interesting... American Jewish comedians have always been readily >apparent (largely because they often do routines about being Jewish) >whereas, to American ears, British comedians always seem... British. You >know, with the accent and all. Is there some British equivalent of the >Catskills? Which British accent? Scouse, Geordie, Cockney, Yorkshire, West Country, Norfolk, Cotswold, Mancunian, Upper Class, RP, South Welsh, North Welsh, Glaswegian, Lalland, Highland, Ulster, Brummy, Home Counties...? Or are you telling me that Billy Connolly (Glaswegian), the Queen (Upper class to RP), Benny Hill (Cornish), Jimmy Nail (Geordie), and John Lennon (Scouse) all have/had the same accent? Locals could pick far more accents than that (even I can still pick a handful of different London accents), but I'm 20 years out of practice. As far as the Catskills, I'm guessing you mean a British Jewish accent? There isn't any one in particular, although there's a particular strain of Cockney that is sometimes associated with London Jewish actors like Alfie Bass. Traditionally the main Jewish area of Britain was always London's east end (Stepney/Whitechapel), and some parts of north London like Golders Green, but as with any living city, these areas have greatly changed as have the locations of different communities. ISTR that Golders Green is now a heartland of Australian London. And there's an OTT more nasal accent (sort of like a British version of Kissenger's voice) that Peter Sellers used to slip into occasionally. Or if you are in rare possession of a copy of Godley and Creme's album Consequences, check out the lawyer in that for another version. oh, and another UK Jewish musician, Paul Kossoff. >And spins off into hip-hop, which has been known to go off into some >explicitly anti-Semitic directions. Things get pretty weird in there. But >it seems fromthe evidence at hand that, despite its roots, rock has more >Jewish proponents than black ones at this point. Hmmmm. well, consider that American 60s rock has its roots not only in R&B but also in the Brill Building, and you'll find a reason for that. James PS - welcome to my new niece, Onawa Ruth Tobeck, born 5.45pm yesterday! James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 23:46:26 -0400 From: R Edward Poole Subject: jill sobule interview nice interview with mac-lover jill sobule: http://www.macdirectory.com/music/JillSobule/Index.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 08:24:11 -0700 From: "Russ Reynolds" Subject: Re: Captain Sensible & Robyn rOss: > A cool thing about those 1st two Captain disks > is a) hearing a good bit of Robyn's voice in > the background b) there are lot's of times when > Sensible's voice reminds me of Robyn's, & I > suspect that's his influence on Robyn. I think the coolest thing is that his face is on the *front* cover of "Women & Captains First", something we hadn't even seen on any of the Soft Boys' album covers (not 'til Invisible Hits was released, the following year) - -rUss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:28:17 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: REAP Portrait photographer Yousuf Karsh. Interestingly, he shot the back cover photo for a certain Canadian bands seminal 1984 release "Grace Under Pressure." In a strange if somewhat macabre tie-in to the 'Jews who Rock' discussion, one of the subjects of that photo remarked: "I think the picture brings out our personalities quite nicely. But it also looks like a bar mitzvah photo, doesn't it?" - Geddy Lee (St. Paul Pioneer Press interview). http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/800x600/GUPtourgroup.jpg Michael "how 'bout them ears" Wells ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V11 #228 ********************************