From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V11 #195 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, June 17 2002 Volume 11 : Number 195 Today's Subjects: ----------------- I think I have found God [Ken Weingold ] sealab [anubis ] matthew seligman interview [guapo stick ] new kimberley rew album [guapo stick ] Re: new kimberley rew album ["Marc Holden" ] Re: way off topic- audio question - clarification [rosso@videotron.ca] RE: Red Wings, Red Wings win the Stanley Cup [glen uber ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #194 [grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan)] Re: catching up ["Michael Wells" ] Re: Eno's all around [steve ] Re: Eno's all around [rosso@videotron.ca] Oh my [Sebastian Hagedorn ] MIDI/audio help [rosso@videotron.ca] Re: Eddie's Star Wars Questions revealed! ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: MIDI/audio help [noe shalev ] Re: Oh my ["Mike Wells" ] Legend [Miles Goosens ] RE: new kimberley rew album ["Reynolds, Russ" ] RE: new kimberley rew album ["Poole, R. Edward" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:59:10 -0400 From: Ken Weingold Subject: I think I have found God http://www.cummingfirst.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:37:04 -0700 From: anubis Subject: sealab > From: "Eugene Hopstetter, Jr." > Not that I own very many Beatles recordings, because I think they all > sound > like poop. I own a mint late-80s LP pressing of Rubber Soul and I > can't sit > through more than one song, and the CDs aren't much better either. See, this is why I'm lucky I don't have the refined tastes of an audiophile. > From: "Jason R. Thornton" > Paraphrasing: > "Where do I put my... errr... ummm....????" > "Normally, I just lay my eggs, leave the room and let the male > fertilize them." There's a Dan Clowes graphic novel (Velvet Glove, Iron, something like that) that makes this image very vivid. It's deeply disturbing. > From: "Voodoo Ergonomics" > > well, > lord knows why, but i ponied up $4.75 to see Attack Of The Clones. > ouch! > [...] > the visuals > not entirely horrible, even somewhat impressive in places (though way > too > antiseptic). This is a good point. One of the things I loved about the original films was that the technology looked _used_. It makes less sense in a time of relative prosperity, I guess, but it leaves something to be desired. > - --if padme was "elected" queen (whatever the fuck that's supposed to > mean -- > and don't they even know you can't stand for election to queen until > you're > 35 years old) of naboo, how did fucking leia get to be princess of > alderaan? Adopted, wasn't she? I can only say, "yeah, how come?" to most of your other questions (answer, probably: George Lucas sucks) but I *especially* say that to this one: > - --how come the fucking clones don't have free will? and how come the > jedi > (if not the politicians) have no ethical concerns over using the clones > as > fucking cannon fodder? That REALLY bothered me. > - --how come boba fett's got such a fucking chip on his shoulder? You mean Jango? Boba's seems obvious (a little too obvious). > heartily recommend the Dancer In The Dark dvd, though. If you enjoy being tied up in a burlap sack and clubbed with baseball bats for two and a half hours. Is there an alternate version on the DVD that's watchable? Drew ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 13:50:01 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: matthew seligman interview matthew seligman was interviewed for scholieren.com, a dutch website specially made for teenagers and students. the interview is in english, so none of you need to dust off the babelfish... ;) http://www.scholieren.com/muziek/ woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 14:39:33 -0400 From: guapo stick Subject: new kimberley rew album i got a note from the kimberleyrew.com website folks about kim's new rekkid last week, but i've been out cavorting in arizona and maine for the past week and a half and didn't get a chance to forward the news. fortuantely, eagled-eyed mark noticed the details which were posted on the bongobeat records's website and posted them to one of the yahoogroups, so i'll just pass along those details for y'all... woj http://www.bongobeat.com/greatcentrev.php Kimberley Rew: Great Central Revisited Available in stores: July 2nd, 2002 UPC: 7-6700-31961-2-2 Catalog number: BB 1961-2 Retail: Distributed in Canada by Outside Music EXPORT ORDERS: please contact Ralph Alfonso directly at ralph@bongobeat.com What the press have said about his previous cd: "...big, jangling guitars, engaging lyrics and harmonies from heaven..."  MOJO Magazine "...crammed with the kind of cross-Atlantic, post-Beatles pop best personified by Squeeze and Teenage Fan Club... quintessential Englishness..."  Q Magazine Website: www.kimberleyrew.com. 01 Life Itself 02 English Road 04 Screaming Lord Sutch 05 EC Blues 06 Adventures of the Underclass 07 Philip Larkin 08 Sick of Hearing About Your Drugs 09 Great Central Revisited 10 Heart of Things 11 Purple and Orange Stripes 12 June Barley 13 We Will Swim Together Third Solo Lp in 22 Years!! Soft Boys lead guitarist ex-Katrina & The Waves This CD is available from Canada only DELUXE DIGIPAK, 16 page all colour booklet Kimberley Rew is the lead guitarist for The Soft Boys (new CD coming this fall) & the writer of "Walking On Sunshine" with his other group Katrina & The Waves. GUEST MUSICIANS: Robyn Hitchcock: Robyn Hitchcock founded and led the legendary Soft Boys which Rew joined in 1978. Hitchcock moved on to become an established cult artist, solo and with the Egyptians. The Soft Boys reunited to rerelease their Underwater Moonlight album and record a new album in 2001. Dave Mattacks: drummer Dave Mattacks joined England's premier folk-rock band Fairport Convention in1969 and has since worked with Richard Thompson, Steeleye Span, Nick Drake, XTC, Joan Armatrading, Mary Chapin Carpenter and on innumerable sessions. Rew and Mattacks met in Ashley Hutchings' All Stars in 1988. Vince de la Cruz: bassist Vince de la Cruz is like Rew an original member of Katrina and the Waves, formed in 1981 and noted for the evergreen summer hit Walking on Sunshine. Patch Hannan: drummer Patch Hannan was a member of the Sundays before starting his own production company, and has also worked with Robyn Hitchcock and Katrina. Julian Dawson: Julian Dawson has had a long musical career solo and with members of cult band Can, plus occasional contributions from and duo appearances with Rew. Andy Metcalfe: Andy Metcalfe is an original Soft Boy as well as co-producer of Rew's first album. He joined Squeeze in 1985. Lee Cave-Berry: bassist and singer Lee Cave-Berry worked with many bands in the UK and Europe before teaming up with Rew for several recording and live projects. Tom Dalpra: singer Tom Dalpra has worked with Cambridge, England legends Nutmeg and the Lonely. Mixed by Pat Collier: mixer Pat Collier formed punk band the Vibrators in 1976, then one of the first power-pop bands, the Boyfriends, before moving on to produce the Wonderstuff, Darling Buds, Soft Boys, Robyn Hitchcock, Katrina and the Waves and many others. Engineered by Steve Stewart: recording engineer Steve Stewart was a founder and long-term member of progressive band the Enid. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:07:41 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Re: new kimberley rew album You were in Arizona and didn't visit? That bites, dude. Marc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "guapo stick" To: "worst...list...EVER!" ; ; ; Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 11:39 AM Subject: new kimberley rew album > i got a note from the kimberleyrew.com website folks about kim's new rekkid > last week, but i've been out cavorting in arizona and maine for the past > week and a half and didn't get a chance to forward the news. fortuantely, > eagled-eyed mark noticed the details which were posted on the bongobeat > records's website and posted them to one of the yahoogroups, so i'll just > pass along those details for y'all... > > woj > > http://www.bongobeat.com/greatcentrev.php > > Kimberley Rew: Great Central Revisited > > Available in stores: July 2nd, 2002 > > UPC: 7-6700-31961-2-2 > Catalog number: BB 1961-2 > Retail: Distributed in Canada by Outside Music > EXPORT ORDERS: please contact Ralph Alfonso directly at > ralph@bongobeat.com > > What the press have said about his previous cd: > > "...big, jangling guitars, engaging lyrics and harmonies from > heaven..." >  MOJO Magazine > > "...crammed with the kind of cross-Atlantic, post-Beatles pop best > personified by Squeeze and Teenage Fan Club... quintessential > Englishness..." >  Q Magazine > > Website: www.kimberleyrew.com. > > 01 Life Itself > 02 English Road > 04 Screaming Lord Sutch > 05 EC Blues > 06 Adventures of the Underclass > 07 Philip Larkin > 08 Sick of Hearing About Your Drugs > 09 Great Central Revisited > 10 Heart of Things > 11 Purple and Orange Stripes > 12 June Barley > 13 We Will Swim Together > > > Third Solo Lp in 22 Years!! > Soft Boys lead guitarist > ex-Katrina & The Waves > This CD is available from Canada only > DELUXE DIGIPAK, 16 page all colour booklet > Kimberley Rew is the lead guitarist for The Soft Boys (new CD coming > this fall) & the writer of "Walking On Sunshine" with his other group > Katrina & The Waves. > GUEST MUSICIANS: > > Robyn Hitchcock: Robyn Hitchcock founded and led the legendary Soft > Boys which Rew joined in 1978. Hitchcock moved on to become an > established cult artist, solo and with the Egyptians. The Soft Boys > reunited to rerelease their Underwater Moonlight album and record a new > album in 2001. > > Dave Mattacks: drummer Dave Mattacks joined England's premier folk-rock > band Fairport Convention in1969 and has since worked with Richard > Thompson, Steeleye Span, Nick Drake, XTC, Joan Armatrading, Mary Chapin > Carpenter and on innumerable sessions. Rew and Mattacks met in Ashley > Hutchings' All Stars in 1988. > > Vince de la Cruz: bassist Vince de la Cruz is like Rew an original > member of Katrina and the Waves, formed in 1981 and noted for the > evergreen summer hit Walking on Sunshine. > > Patch Hannan: drummer Patch Hannan was a member of the Sundays before > starting his own production company, and has also worked with Robyn > Hitchcock and Katrina. > > Julian Dawson: Julian Dawson has had a long musical career solo and > with members of cult band Can, plus occasional contributions from and > duo appearances with Rew. > > Andy Metcalfe: Andy Metcalfe is an original Soft Boy as well as > co-producer of Rew's first album. He joined Squeeze in 1985. > > Lee Cave-Berry: bassist and singer Lee Cave-Berry worked with many > bands in the UK and Europe before teaming up with Rew for several > recording and live projects. > > Tom Dalpra: singer Tom Dalpra has worked with Cambridge, England > legends Nutmeg and the Lonely. > > Mixed by Pat Collier: mixer Pat Collier formed punk band the Vibrators > in 1976, then one of the first power-pop bands, the Boyfriends, before > moving on to produce the Wonderstuff, Darling Buds, Soft Boys, Robyn > Hitchcock, Katrina and the Waves and many others. > > Engineered by Steve Stewart: recording engineer Steve Stewart was a > founder and long-term member of progressive band the Enid. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:33:32 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: way off topic- audio question - clarification On 17 Jun 2002 at 0:01, rosso@videotron.ca wrote: In case I buried my point in excess verbiage, what I meant was that you could probably just buy two piezo tweeters and put them on either side of your work area. You ought to be able to do it with the tweeters and your original speakers only. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 12:55:43 -0700 From: glen uber Subject: RE: Red Wings, Red Wings win the Stanley Cup Jeffrey earnestly scribbled: >I'm not a hockey fan, but...isn't "Sharks" a dumb name for a hockey team? >I mean, you take your average shark, and you freeze its waterways...what, >is it going to burst through the ice and start devouring pucks and >shinguards? Given the logo, I think that's the idea. >Of course, nowhere near as inane as "Utah Jazz" or even "Los Angeles >Lakers," so I guess basketball's worse. Yeah, I've often wondered why the Jazz never changed their name after they moved from the Big Easy. I've been to Utah a few times and "jazz" is certainly not the first noun that pops in my mind when I recall my experiences there. I mean, how can there be jazz when there aren't even any African-Americans? I suppose there's a lake somewhere in L.A., so that name doesn't bother me as much as the name Jazz. Another name that doesn't make much sense is Arizona Cardinals. As far as I know -- and the resident ornithologists will have to confirm this -- cardinals don't live in Arizona. Oh, one more thing: the next sportscaster who refers to the Dolphins as "The Fish" is gonna get one of my feet up his ignorant, marine biology- challenged ass. - -- Cheers! - -g- "Start your own revolution and cut out the middle man." - --Billy Bragg glen uber =+= blint (at) mac dot com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:29:18 +1200 From: grutness@surf4nix.com (James Dignan) Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V11 #194 >> --if padme was "elected" queen (whatever the fuck that's supposed to >> mean probably very similar to what it means to the elected king of Malaysia (The Yang di Pertuan Agong, if you wanna be picky) >Sorry, "calvary" when the person means "cavalry" (more oft said that way >instead of written) is one of *my* linguistic pet peeves. isn't that where they have the big rodeo in Canada? re: the audio question (mock quad sound) - one of the early Eno ambient albums on vinyl (Music for Airports, perhaps?) had details of how to rig up a third speaker to give a sort of 'hemisphere of sound' around the listener. Don't have any of the details, but I'm sure it's out there on the web someplace... James James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand. =-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= .-=-.-=-.-=-.- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-. -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= You talk to me as if from a distance =-.-=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time -=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 22:03:37 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: Re: catching up woj helpfully points out: > matthew seligman was interviewed for scholieren.com, a dutch website > specially made for teenagers and students. the interview is in english, so > none of you need to dust off the babelfish... ;) So it IS la cherite! And as per usual, fegs were right. With the KCRW interview confirmation of "Unprotected Love," that's about one-half a disc's worth of titles now in the light. What about "Pulse of My Heart"? And what's with the extra 'side' being released by the SB's...translation? Is Nextdoorland 2CD's and there'll be a third, seperately released single disc? Details, details. Glen offered: > Yeah, I've often wondered why the Jazz never changed their name after > they moved from the Big Easy. I've been to Utah a few times and "jazz" is > certainly not the first noun that pops in my mind when I recall my > experiences there. Can I get you a copy of The Watchtower? > Another name that doesn't make much sense is Arizona Cardinals. As far as > I know -- and the resident ornithologists will have to confirm this -- > cardinals don't live in Arizona. Firstly, ornithologists aren't residents anywhere; they're migratory. And the name derives from the 'Chicago Cardinals' franchise, but not because of the bird...their original uniforms were castoffs from the Univeristy of Chicago Maroons ("what a maroon"), and to counter the perception they were faded the color was dubbed "cardinal red." But you can go ahead and dislike them 'cause of the Bidwells, they don't make much sense at all and you'll have plenty of company. I'll be up in a few hours for the biggest game in USA soccer history in about oh, say fifty years. It's either going to be a great night or I'll be really irritable tomorrow. Michael "hope it's the great one" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 23:44:02 -0500 From: steve Subject: Re: Eno's all around On Sunday, June 16, 2002, at 09:29 PM, James Dignan wrote: > re: the audio question (mock quad sound) - one of the early Eno ambient > albums on vinyl (Music for Airports, perhaps?) had details of how to > rig up > a third speaker to give a sort of 'hemisphere of sound' around the > listener. Don't have any of the details, but I'm sure it's out there on > the > web someplace... Probably hooking a speaker to the two positive terminals, which was said to give you some "between channels" information. I've heard it done, and there is a kind of ambient sound produced. I'm not sure of the effect on an amp, or if you need a second set of speaker outputs to make it work. - - Steve __________ Pat Robertson's resignation this month as president of the Christian Coalition confirmed the ascendance of a new leader of the religious right in America: George W. Bush. - Dana Milbank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 00:55:00 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: Re: Eno's all around On 16 Jun 2002 at 23:44, steve wrote: > Probably hooking a speaker to the two positive terminals, which was said > to give you some "between channels" information. I've heard it done, > and there is a kind of ambient sound produced. I'm not sure of the > effect on an amp, or if you need a second set of speaker outputs to make > it work. I've done it. You can also use this method for a budget surround sound setup for TV. I tried it right after surround made its debut on TV. My amp is set up for 3 sets of speakers. I used the second output set, wiring it as you said. It worked well enough, IIRC. A web search ought to turn up a few methods of doing this. I think I took two speakers in series and put them across the positive terminals, which gave me an appropriately lower output for the ambient stuff. My amp survived the experiment. I remember there was a sub-sub-cult of Beatles fans who, desperate to hear something new in the mix, would listen to the difference signal. Um, isn't Eno's "ambient" entirely different from this sort of "ambient"? It'll work as well on Metallica. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:40:47 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Oh my Well, congratulations are in order ... 2:0 over Mexico. So it's going to be Germany - USA on Friday. I'd say that the odds are pretty even for that one. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Ehrenfeldg|rtel 156 50823 Kvln http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ Being just contaminates the void - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 08:26:25 -0400 From: rosso@videotron.ca Subject: MIDI/audio help Any of you kids know how to determine the exact BPM from an audio file? I'm trying to do some MIDI accompanyment to an audio-only track. The track has bits where there are no instruments, just the beat, and I'm hoping there's some utility that can pick up on that, much as pitch-to-MIDI converters can work with audio data. Suggestions? Also, I'm having odd problems importing that audio into Cakewalk. If I look at the audio file with Wavelab, it's fine. If I import it to Cakewalk or Powertracks (another multitracker) I get visible clipping. Anybody got any ideas about what's going on with that? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 07:32:29 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: Re: Eddie's Star Wars Questions revealed! The Great Quail doth said: >I believe the one person who said that to him was a Franco-Sikh animator >named Jarijar Bhinques. And we all saw how savagely he was punished! Man, you must have been one helluva tough Dungeon Master. You probably wouldn't even let me take the head off of a troll with a plus-1 roll on my Vorpal blade. Speaking of which (here comes the mandatory movie content, and a clever DnD segue, at that), I watched the new "Legend" DVD last night. Scott's cut feels like a completely different, and much better, movie. And Tim Curry's performance is just as deliciously evil as before. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 07:43:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey Subject: Re: Eno's all around On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, steve wrote: > On Sunday, June 16, 2002, at 09:29 PM, James Dignan wrote: > > > re: the audio question (mock quad sound) - one of the early Eno ambient > > albums on vinyl (Music for Airports, perhaps?) had details of how to > > rig up > > a third speaker to give a sort of 'hemisphere of sound' around the > > listener. Don't have any of the details, but I'm sure it's out there on > > the > > web someplace... > > Probably hooking a speaker to the two positive terminals, which was said > to give you some "between channels" information. I've heard it done, > and there is a kind of ambient sound produced. I'm not sure of the > effect on an amp, or if you need a second set of speaker outputs to make > it work. Right. I had this set-up for a number of years. Basically, what you hear is any information *not* common to both channels. If you have the second speaker on the "b" channel of your amp & can switch between a, b, and both, it also allows you to do instant karaoke on most records, since vocals are generally centered. It does spread the signal some, and some records reveal interesting information...but I think most recordings these days aren't as extravagantly "stereo!" as those of the sixties and seventies. Probably some demographic survey that said people were disturbed by sounds coming from more than one place, or unsuitability for play in your local mall's J.J. McCrapley's Mexican Pizza Irish Pub. - --Jeffrey with 2 Fs Jeffrey J e f f r e y N o r m a n The Architectural Dance Society www.uwm.edu/~jenor/ADS.html ::The more you drive, the less intelligent you are:: __Miller, in REPO MAN__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 16:03:03 -0800 From: noe shalev Subject: Re: MIDI/audio help unce upon a time, Tuesday, June 18, 2002, rosso typed this: rosso@videotron.ca> Any of you kids know how to determine the exact BPM from an rosso@videotron.ca> audio file? I'm trying to do some MIDI accompanyment to an rosso@videotron.ca> audio-only track. The track has bits where there are no rosso@videotron.ca> instruments, just the beat, and I'm hoping there's some utility rosso@videotron.ca> that can pick up on that, much as pitch-to-MIDI converters can rosso@videotron.ca> work with audio data. I think that depends on the type of the file your'e dealing with, or more on the question wether it has a time code or not. a special channel usualy dedicated for time code on a digital recording. midi should be abvle to track and synch over this code. or am I just misunderstanding your question... noe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:17:04 -0500 From: "Mike Wells" Subject: Re: Oh my Sebastian observes: > Well, congratulations are in order ... 2:0 over Mexico. Thanks. Our boys played hard, and deserved the win...this was a HUGE game around where I live (large Mexican-American population), and you can still feel the charge in the air, though I think my Mexican friends are more upset at the chippy, cheap-shot way that their team played rather than the fact that they lost the game. At least both USA goals were pure class, which is a pleasant change. Our game is finally rising to a higher standard. > So it's going to be Germany - USA on Friday. I'd say that the odds are > pretty even for that one. That's nice, but let's not get silly. Germany is in a different league if they're on their game, as they showed in Rostock. But we're well coached, have speed to burn, and a ton of heart...who knows... Methinks I'll be taking the day off, what with Brazil v England on as well. Michael "you gotta believe" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 09:53:05 -0500 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Legend At 07:32 AM 6/17/2002 -0500, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: >Speaking of which (here comes the mandatory movie content, and a >clever DnD segue, at that), I watched the new "Legend" DVD last >night. Scott's cut feels like a completely different, and much >better, movie. And Tim Curry's performance is just as deliciously >evil as before. Actually, I just posted the following to Loud-Fans before reading this. Apologies to dual citizens for the repeat. The short version is that I like the director's cut much better with one exception (listed below), though both versions of the films still have the flaws of intrusively anachronistic goblin and elf dialogue and, worse, Cruise's inexplicable pantslessness. Anyway... ============= Like at least one other Loud-lister I know, we got the new special edition DVD of LEGEND a few weeks ago, and we finally made it through both the original US version of the film and Ridley Scott's new "director's cut" version. I think I successfully avoided the original theatrical release and saw no more than a snippet of it on HBO before changing channels. Here's the breakdown of our reasoning behind buying the DVD, despite it starring one of our least-favorite "actors" and really not expecting to like the movie: 25%: directed by Ridley Scott 25%: Mia Sara is hot (rhyme with previous line unintentional) 50%: disc 2 contains the video of Bryan Ferry's "Is Your Love Strong Enough?" Anyway, we watched the US version first so we would have it fresh in our minds when we saw Ridley Scott's new cut of the film. The new cut works better in almost every way, raising the film from "beautiful but mediocre" to "worth seeing but flawed." The scenes and narrative flow much better, the charming singing of Mia Sara is restored to several scenes (it was wholly cut from the original), and Jerry Goldsmith's score gives more of a timeless feel than the Tangerine Dream synth-heavy score -- the fact that it's not nearly as omnipresent as the TD score allows a lot more of the movie's dialogue and especially the wonderful ambient sound work (birds, wind, crystalline glissandos) to come across. In fact, on the soundtrack front, the only place Goldsmith's score falls short is in the sequence where Lili (Sara) is compelled by Darkness' spell to come to his lair and the dance scene that follows: the Tangerine Dream music for these scenes gave much more of a feel of being compelled by something supernatural, of obeying forces that you cannot comprehend nor control. The ideal cut would use Goldsmith except for this sequence. Well, it'd also give Tom Cruise some digitized pants (could he crouch in the legs-spread crotch-thrusted-out position any more often?), but that may be a more personal preference. I also wonder if everyone who worked on the film will die of lung ailments 10 years from now, since never has there been a movie with more stuff being blown through the air. Glitter Lung? Anyway, while the new cut has no other music but Goldsmith's, the original had Ferry's lustrous, gorgeous, glimmering "Is Your Love Strong Enough" behind the end titles, but during the climactic happy ending sequence (altered in the director's cut from American schoolgirl Disney storybook-thing to something more subtle and sweet), you're subjected to one of the most hideous Jon Anderson vocals known to mankind on "Loved By the Sun." I mean ears-bleeding, nails-on-chalkboard irritating, sheep-in-neighboring-pasture-stampeding hideous. Why on earth would Ridley have used this when he had a stunning, romantic, scene-appropriate Ferry track in his pocket? All I can figure is that since "Loved By the Sun" has music by Tangerine Dream, maybe he thought it was more appropriate to have all music in the film itself be by TD for aural continuity's sake. But still... yeeeech. registering my Jo(h)n Anderson preference as John "Swingin'" Anderson, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 08:13:14 -0700 From: "Reynolds, Russ" Subject: RE: new kimberley rew album > 08 Sick of Hearing About Your Drugs oooh! In response to "Tell Me About Your Drugs"? A leftover track from the bitter Hitchcock/Rew fued of the mid '80s?? Was this Kimberleys "How Do You Sleep?"? Did Robyn play on this track and if so did they fight like Davies brothers in the studio?? Inquiring minds want to know. - -Muck Raker. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 11:18:49 -0400 From: "Poole, R. Edward" Subject: RE: new kimberley rew album Russ was heard to rake the following muck: >> 08 Sick of Hearing About Your Drugs >oooh! In response to "Tell Me About Your Drugs"? A leftover track from the >bitter Hitchcock/Rew fued of the mid '80s?? Was this Kimberleys "How Do You >Sleep?"? Did Robyn play on this track and if so did they fight like Davies >brothers in the studio?? Inquiring minds want to know. Good questions all, but the premise seems flawed -- after all, "Tell Me About Your Drugs," despite the title, quite clearly sends the exact SAME message as Kim's song (or, at least, the same message as the title of Kim's song would suggest). Perhaps they were referring to a common contemporary...? ============================================================================This e-mail message and any attached files are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s) named above. This communication may contain material protected by attorney-client, work product, or other privileges. 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